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Posted by Dr. Bob on November 10, 2003, at 15:50:55
In reply to reconsidered, posted by oreilledemouche on November 9, 2003, at 15:50:29
Oreilledemouche: No more messages please...unless » oreilledemouche
Posted by Elle2021 on November 10, 2003, at 5:44:00
In reply to reconsidered, posted by oreilledemouche on November 9, 2003, at 15:50:29
Dear Oreilledemouche,
Please do not post me anymore messages unless they are civil.
Sincerely,
Elle--
Re: I-statement for Elle
Posted by Larry Hoover on November 10, 2003, at 14:41:44
In reply to Re: I-statement for Elle » Larry Hoover, posted by galkeepinon on November 9, 2003, at 13:41:50
> >>>>It was warning that emailing a particular individual might not be wise.
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> And it might not be wise because?I've seen some of your emails. Do you want to make them public?
Posted by galkeepinon on November 10, 2003, at 16:34:54
In reply to Redirected: reconsidered, posted by Dr. Bob on November 10, 2003, at 15:50:55
>>>>I've seen some of your emails. Do you want to make them public?
And the benefit in doing that would be?....
to prove what?....I think the question here should rather be do *you* want to make them public?
Best wishes,
Kristen :-)
Posted by galkeepinon on November 10, 2003, at 22:58:04
In reply to Redirected: reconsidered, posted by Dr. Bob on November 10, 2003, at 15:50:55
I just got done talking to my psychiatrist.
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> Re: I-statement for Elle>
> Posted by Larry Hoover on November 10, 2003, at 14:41:44
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> In reply to Re: I-statement for Elle » Larry Hoover, posted by galkeepinon on November 9, 2003, at 13:41:50
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> > >>>>It was warning that emailing a particular individual might not be wise.
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> > And it might not be wise because?
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> I've seen some of your emails. Do you want to make them public?
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Sure, make ALL and EVERY email public, and I will do the same. Also, it might want to be documented and made sure that they really are from me, my IP, my computer, email addresses, etc. I, of course, have every email I sent Bob, and the hacking threat from Nikki back in April 2003. I sent Bob many emails also, I'd like those put out in public too and I will post 2 for now, here that I received in the last 24 hours ALONG with 2 hacking attempts from the UK, Poland, and Northern California, I've notified the data base, Microsoft, and the FCC concerning them. Enjoy:
1)Hi Kristen,
I see you have returned to Babble and appear to be accepting (and even inviting) email (and have posted your new address). I am taking that that means your case-related embargo is over.
I am glad to see that you are ok. I saw your AOL id online a few times after you declared yourself dead, so I took it you had not invoked any permanent solutions.
So hopefully we can continue talking now? If, on the other hand, you have become uncomfortable with *me* for some reason I will return to not emailing you (but as I have said, I tend to need things like that spelled out).
Anyway, I hope you worked out your remaining issues and now can be comfortable on Babble again.
Regards,
Michael
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And my response:
Hi Michael, yes, Ive received a few emails, I knew the risk of posting my email on Babble.
Thanks so much for your support, it means a lot.
Yes, we can continue talking now, no problem. I'd like that. I am just very careful about corresponding online, but I'll get over it ;-)
I am perfectly comfortable on Babble now, thanks.
So good to hear from you Michael:-)
Talk to you soon,
Best, Kristen
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2)Hi Kristen,
xxx
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And my response:
Hi XXXXXX! Very nice to meet you! What a very nice surprise! Thank you for such a kind email and no worries, I put my email address out there knowing I would probably get some emails, and I have.
*sigh* I really don't know what to say about the board regarding these folks who seem to really, may I say, act somewhat immature or rather bitter? I fully understand people and their problems, I really do, and I am devoted to that board 110%. Bob is a wonderful human being and people sometimes forget that if it weren't for him, we wouldn't be able to get the positive from his site, and there IS positive:-)
As Bob told me, I just won't let them get to me so much. I do know, too, that it's not everyone and people will make there own judgement. I am there to help, share experience, strength, and hope. That's the best way I can put it. And I've posted that.
Try not to let the site scare you, there is A LOT of drama sometimes but Bob really has a handle on it, and I honestly think he does a good job, he never hesitates to inform me when he disapproves of something I do, and I respect that.
I'll have to look at the board and find out why your posts were deleted. I don't see that often, that's very odd and I'm sorry that happened, that's not quite right.
Please, whenever you need any support, post on the board, but do what you feel in your heart to do, no one needs the added stress from a message board online, life deals us enough don't you think?
Honestly, I think that every one who posts who claims to be 'new' those few people will think it's me, but I only post under one name, and Bob knows that, and that's all I have to remember as it's his board. I just have never believed in posting under 2 names, it kind of defeats the purpose, in my opinion really. In my life, sometimes I'm too honest, that may be a bad thing, I don't know.
It's a real shame for new folks because it takes away the REAL reason for the board.
Thank you for emailing me with support, I really appreciate that! I'm OK, but some days are just better than others ya know?
As far as what happened, there isn't much to it. I've had a rough go, and I was in a horrible place this April right before I went into the hospital. If there is ANYTHING about the situation you would like to know, please don't hesitate to ask. I know, I keep telling my mom that 'they' make me look out to be like such a monster, it's really sad. I've been told I'm strong, that's why I got this far in life, I guess.
I've had my fair share, believe me.
Well, I'm going to check the board one more time then I have to get some needed sleep.
XXXXXX, I really thank you again for emailing me, and if you ever need anything, I'm here for you, I mean that, despite what those 'few' people think on that board, and those people are the ones who were greatly affected by what I did, and I didn't do it intentionally, they need to deal with their feelings now, I ned to give them that courtesy. I've done pretty much what I can do. I may not be perfect, but I am so aware of othe rpeople's feelings when it comes to all the stuff we all go through.
I wanted to email you back :-)
Take care and thank you again from the bottom of my heart, my thoughts are with you!
I live in California, I'm 33, and just keep on keepin on ;-)
If you'd like stay in touch, and take care of you :-)
Kristen
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So, with that posted, I invite you to post ANYTHING public concerning me. I am very well aware of internet laws, my rights, and responsibilities, and will be prepared to, *if* I have to continue with a lawyer, I will do so.
I do not wish for 'Susan J', or 'Tabitha', to post to me any longer, thank you so much. I wish you 2 the best.
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Also Bob, I had emailed you with this:
Bob,
Am I able to make a donation to your board?
I couldn't find anywhere to do so, if you could please let me know, I'd appreciate it.
I would like to make a donation.
Thanks,
Kristen
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I have yet to hear back on that one as of right now.
Maybe someone could direct me on how to make a donation to this board.
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So, there ya have a few, go ahead, it will be very interesting to see publicly emails you have read, you claim to be from me, go for it, I've got nothing to hide, nothing at all. I am well prepared to state my case in court, both in the US, and outside the US. I've got the money to get an attorney, and I also have a psychiatrist who knows EXACTLY what's going on here...I'm not worried, remember we are ALL mental health patients, and I'm very disappointed in how all this has turned out. Maybe there is a HUGE blessing in dusguise coming :-)
And like 'Forrest Gump' said, "That's all I have to say about that" right now...
Have a GREAT night everyone! :-)Best wishes,
Kristen
Posted by sienna on November 10, 2003, at 23:28:58
In reply to Re: Redirected: reconsidered, posted by galkeepinon on November 10, 2003, at 22:58:04
Kristen
Generally it is poor netiquette (meaning etiquette on the internet) to post peoples private emails without their permission. I believe that Larry was just trying to find out if you wanted him to post your emails to show why someone would say that line. Im not
sure.In any case, if someone posted my personal email that i had sent for their eyes only, I would be very upset, though I suppose I would remain civil as I feel that I am getting very good at it.
I also feel that it would take a lot of bandwidth to post every email that has been passed back and forth regarding the "situation" that happened a while ago and appears to keep coming up. Im not sure if that is why you were offering the donation maybe.
Anyway,
if you already knew that I apologize, im just trying to keep the peace.Sienna
Posted by galkeepinon on November 11, 2003, at 0:06:17
In reply to Re: Redirected: reconsidered » galkeepinon, posted by sienna on November 10, 2003, at 23:28:58
>>>>I also feel that it would take a lot of bandwidth to post every email that has been passed back and forth regarding the "situation" that happened a while ago and appears to keep coming up.
I think it would be a good idea to post my emails, the ball is in Larry's court now...
>>>> Anyway,
> if you already knew that I apologize, im just trying to keep the peace.
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> SiennaThanks Sienna, appreciate you trying to keep the peace, now I'm back to helping.
I'm not feeling well at all and calling it an early night.
Goodnight, and please continue to *try* to keep the peace, life's tough enough already.
Take care Sienna.
Posted by Dinah on November 11, 2003, at 5:54:03
In reply to Re: Redirected: reconsidered, posted by galkeepinon on November 10, 2003, at 22:58:04
Since you XXX'd out the real name of the second e-mailer through most of your post, I xxx'd out the time you left it in.
Here is a link to the donation information. It's at the top of the page.
http://www.dr-bob.org/support.html
Posted by Dinah on November 11, 2003, at 6:03:21
In reply to Re: Redirected: reconsidered, posted by galkeepinon on November 10, 2003, at 22:58:04
Removed from this site, please let me or Dr. Bob know. My email is in the FAQ, and his is at the bottom of this page. I wouldn't think that Dr. Bob would disapprove of private communications being deleted. I emailed him the entire original post so that if he does disapprove, he can restore the original information.
Also, since Kristen has given her ok to post her email correspondence, could everyone make sure that a) both parties to the correspondence have agreed to make it public and b) that it has been altered, if necessary, with XXXX's or whatever, to fit the civility guidelines of Babble.
Dr. Bob might prefer that it not be done at all, but I'll let him make that call. And you might prefer to wait to hear what he says on the matter before posting it at all to be on the safe side, administratively speaking.
Dinah, acting as deputy for Dr. Bob
Posted by Larry Hoover on November 11, 2003, at 6:55:19
In reply to Re: Redirected: reconsidered, posted by galkeepinon on November 10, 2003, at 22:58:04
> > > >>>>It was warning that emailing a particular individual might not be wise.
> > >
> > > And it might not be wise because?
> >
> > I've seen some of your emails. Do you want to make them public?> Sure, make ALL and EVERY email public, and I will do the same.
It's not my decision to make. I have your answer. There are other people involved. And, I'm not inclined to give you what you want.
Posted by Dr. Bob on November 11, 2003, at 10:58:21
In reply to Re: Redirected: reconsidered » galkeepinon, posted by Larry Hoover on November 11, 2003, at 6:55:19
> these folks who seem to really, may I say, act somewhat immature or rather bitter
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> galkeepinon> I'm not inclined to give you what you want.
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> Larry HooverPlease be supportive when posting and don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down, thanks.
Bob
Posted by galkeepinon on November 11, 2003, at 11:04:23
In reply to Re: Redirected: reconsidered » galkeepinon, posted by Larry Hoover on November 11, 2003, at 6:55:19
>>>>>I've seen some of your emails. Do you want to make them public?
>>>>>It's not my decision to make. I have your answer. There are other people involved. And, I'm not inclined to give you what you want.Hi Larry, hope you're doing good!
I have a question, if you have my answer AND you are 'not inclined to give me what I want',
then why did you post the above in the first place?
Just two very simple questions :-)
Have a great day!
Best,
Kristen
Posted by galkeepinon on November 11, 2003, at 11:07:00
In reply to Re: Removed real name » galkeepinon, posted by Dinah on November 11, 2003, at 5:54:03
Dinah, you have a good heart, thank for the donation info, but Bob already emailed me and said he is working on a new donation system.
Thanks anyway,
Kristen>
> Here is a link to the donation information. It's at the top of the page.
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> http://www.dr-bob.org/support.html
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Posted by NikkiT2 on November 11, 2003, at 12:59:09
In reply to Re: Redirected: reconsidered, posted by galkeepinon on November 10, 2003, at 22:58:04
*LMFAO*
Yes, cos I threatened to hack Kristen.
If nayone would like to know what happened, she msg'd me, telling me that she would hack me. The language used was very offensive (lots of swearing). I reacted in anger (as I think most people would have if they could read the messages I had been sent) and said if she did it to me, I would arrange for it to be done back.
If anyone would like to investigate this, I can tell you my IP number, as I don't have a dynamic IP - I have a fixed one, as I connect to internet using a router. I'm sure Dr Bob can give you thse details, along with my ISP (which is http://www.pipex.co.uk/ incase anyone would like to contact them about this).
I am happy to admit to everything I have done wrong, and am happy for Kristen to post anything she likes that I may have sent her. This, ofcourse, is on the condition that I may also post the messages I have.
If anyone has any suspisions that I may have emailed them, please let me know. I can name every single person I have emailed off this site, as theres every few. And I believe none of them have *ever* recieved an abusive email from me.
many regards and a very happy Tuesday to you all
Nikki
Posted by Larry Hoover on November 11, 2003, at 14:03:05
In reply to Re: Redirected: reconsidered » Larry Hoover, posted by galkeepinon on November 11, 2003, at 11:04:23
> I have a question, if you have my answer AND you are 'not inclined to give me what I want',
> then why did you post the above in the first place?I forgot that you play by different rules. And your answer is not the only one to obtain.
> Just two very simple questions :-)
I see only one.
Posted by Medusa on November 11, 2003, at 14:20:20
In reply to Hacking, posted by NikkiT2 on November 11, 2003, at 12:59:09
> And I believe none of them have *ever* recieved an abusive email from me.
>I regret to inform that I have never received an abusive mail from Nikki.
Hit me! Please! Whip me, tie me up, just let me live!
ROTFL
Posted by sienna on November 11, 2003, at 18:23:05
In reply to Re: Redirected: reconsidered » sienna, posted by galkeepinon on November 11, 2003, at 0:06:17
i guess i meant that I feel that it was uncivil to post others private email messages without their permission. See you *already* posted someone elses private messages. I am only trying to help you understand "netiquette".
I am referring to your above post when you posted some mail.Im not sure why you think it would be good to post all of these things. I personally feel that it would just restart more nonsense.
In any case, i hope you are feeling better. and i hope that things stay at least reasonably calm around here.
Sienna
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> I think it would be a good idea to post my emails, the ball is in Larry's court now...>
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