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Posted by Dinah on April 19, 2003, at 9:55:31
In reply to Re: Everyone wants real peace » Dinah, posted by leeran on April 18, 2003, at 23:31:30
I already knew that from reading your other posts, but I just thought it needed saying.
This board is very good for me in some ways, but stirs up feelings that would otherwise not be stirred in my little bubble of a world. I was talking to my therapist yesterday about it. He currently is in favor of my participation on the board, but sometimes I wonder if he has in mind the extra fees my participation here generates. :)
I'm glad my openness here is helpful to you. I sometimes fear I am way too open. But that's me sort of, either way too closed or way too open.
Posted by lil' jimi on April 22, 2003, at 14:09:47
In reply to Win without War (very long), posted by lil' jimi on April 17, 2003, at 16:07:50
above here somewhere, i posted:
> Opinions?
>
> Transcript of the speech given by Tim
> Robbins to the
> National Press Club in Washington DC on Tuesday, April 15, 2003.
>
> TIM ROBBINS: Thank you.
.......
<<Mr. Robbin's speech is on this thread above.>>
.......
> Event Date: April 15, 2003
> Event Name: Tim Robbins
> Details: Win Without Warhello again to all our posters ....
it's me again: "lil' jimi":
dissident, provocateur,
aggravator of this particular "civil unrest" .... (very Very civil!)((caution to all of our "too-sensitive-for-political-type-stuff-which-they-can't-agree-with" Babblers: PLEASE, please, PLuH-LEEZ,
DO NOT READ THIS!!!))(heh, heh .... like that's going to do any good!)
ah, that's better ... .. now that we're down to the-strong-of-neurotransmitter and reasonably adult-of-maturity, and it's just us folks here ..... can we ... message ?
i was just hoping that we could all social-like discuss the social experiences of what it's like to live in the social society that our Mr. Robbins is a-living in with us. To wit:
"This past weekend, Susan and I and the three kids went to Florida for a family reunion of sorts. Amidst the alcohol and the dancing, sugar-rushing children, there was, of course, talk of the war. And the most frightening thing about the weekend was the amount of times we were thanked for speaking out against the war because that individual speaking thought it unsafe to do so in their own community, in their own life.
Keep talking, they said; I haven't been able to open my mouth. "which i felt was the crux of his message (and my post).... and which, i felt, most of our responders didn't seem very responsive to ... very much, anyway.
anway ...
it is because i have felt this 'unsafety' about speaking out about these important things and that i have felt like i haven't been able "to open my mouth" .... that i'm starting to fear the consequences .... consequences like ... isn't there a penalty to pay for succumbing to what other's have called the "sedition of silence"?
and
"'Politics!'- schmolitics! ," i say .... how about just *freedom of speech* ? .... Oh, yeah, even *here* in our, oh-so, sacred Psycho-Social space.
now, if you have felt this or fear that and are willing to try this out with me and our pals, come on down!
and, if you are offended that i bring these issues up, then just please ignore me .... it is really easy .... everyone else does it all the time.
i promise to be real, Real civil-like.... honest!
to those easily-offended who are still reading this: I apologize, in advance .... and later too as the need's be ....
and as i wrote in the 1st instance:
> i thank you for your patience.
> Peace,
> ~ jim" .... same as it ever was... "
as i asked before, "Opinions?"
or experience
or inexperience
or poetry
or comedy
any other dang civil thing you got...(just no crying, okay? i'm really Not hurting anybody... really.)
peace,
~ jimp.s. i like "agreance" okay, but i dont' like them biscuit-whoever's tunes.
Posted by whiterabbit on April 22, 2003, at 15:05:13
In reply to Re: Lose with War, posted by lil' jimi on April 22, 2003, at 14:09:47
I'm not against the war but don't intend to defend my opinion as I need to conserve energy for arguing with my soon-to-be ex-husband. But as long as we're on the subject, I wanted to pass along the following information:
By law, employers of reservists are required to hold open their jobs when employees are called for active duty, but this is all that is required.
Reservists often suffer pay cuts and lose benefits
as a result of their absence.
Sears is voluntarily paying the difference in salary and maintaining all benefits, including health insurance and bonus programs, for reservist employees called to active duty. If this makes you more inclined to shop at Sears, find a manager and tell them why you decided to
spend your hard-earned dollars at their store.
The company needs and deserves positive feedback
for this policy.
-Gracie the Veteran
Posted by lil' jimi on April 22, 2003, at 15:27:39
In reply to Everyone please take a moment to read, posted by whiterabbit on April 22, 2003, at 15:05:13
hi gracie,
thank you .... "pay cuts"?... "lose benefits"? ....
(where is the public outrage?)
.... and i, incorrectly, thought that reservists had this protection, which they richly deserve ... i appreciate your enlightening me about this .... and a better reason to shop at sears and roebucks, besides that one's in my neighborhood and they sell some reeboks i like.
is there perhaps an online resource for supporting our reserves on this?
as i have said before, i support our armed forces and especially our veterans
(whose benefits were CUT (!) last week, i believe).thanks again!
supporting our troops,
~ jim
Posted by leeran on April 22, 2003, at 17:31:32
In reply to Everyone please take a moment to read, posted by whiterabbit on April 22, 2003, at 15:05:13
"I need to conserve energy for arguing with my soon-to-be ex-husband"
Absolutely, Gracie! Hold your cards close and keep your eyes open. Don't settle for anything less than all you deserve.
My first husband "got to me" in a weak moment on or around April 15 (several years ago) and I was so desperate to "get it over with" that I ended up paying all of the income tax we owed and letting him have his 80 acre "hunting playground" for less than market value. I know all that sounds material (lol, vs. immaterial - but I mean material in the sense of materialistic, which is what I should have SAID), but in a way, it's MORE than material(istic) because it's how you end up feeling afterwards when the dust settles that's important.
My ex-husband played tug-of-war right down to the friggin' coasters and bottle stoppers. And the s.o.b. made off with about five years worth (or more) of my serotonin.
If you ever want to email me for divorce "pep talks" please feel free. :-)
Posted by whiterabbit on April 22, 2003, at 18:16:17
In reply to Re: Everyone please take a moment to read » whiterabbit, posted by leeran on April 22, 2003, at 17:31:32
Posted by leeran on April 22, 2003, at 18:28:23
In reply to Re: Everyone please take a moment to read » whiterabbit, posted by leeran on April 22, 2003, at 17:31:32
And whatever you do, don't bail out :)
Your post about bailing really was a metaphor for life, at least for me.
I don't know how many times I have done things the hardest way possible because I just didn't KNOW any other way.
Note: Noa, I'm not saying you should have known the bail trick, I sure didn't! I'm just saying that I felt your "world weariness" when you described the bail moment, and then there was one of those "aha" moments when I read Gracie's post. I can get so overwhelmed over things like that. Stopped up drains/toilets. Ants. Leaky faucets. PIGEONS (that's my latest heartache). We have a pigeon that spends more time on our chaise lounge than I do.
Posted by whiterabbit on April 22, 2003, at 19:27:22
In reply to I have a brand new b.b. gun if you need it ;-) » leeran, posted by leeran on April 22, 2003, at 18:28:23
So that's why you bought a BB gun! I might need to borrow that thang from you, a BB gun is perfect. I don't want to kill him, I need the money.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
-Gracie
Posted by leeran on April 22, 2003, at 19:57:24
In reply to Pigeons?, posted by whiterabbit on April 22, 2003, at 19:27:22
This is so funny. The other night when we bought the DANG THING I asked the salesperson if it is illegal to kill pigeons in California (please, PETA people, I'm sorry but I've tried everything, I truly have).
Afterwards, my husband said "I told you not to mention the reason for buying it to anyone! Do you think everyone wears a white collar?" LOL, guilty me. Already sentencing myself for a crime I haven't yet committed. AND HERE I AM CONFESSING ON A BOARD (my husband is right, I'm looking for world forgiveness).
I have killed a snake with a b.b. gun, and it was no easy task.
I only did it for my mother (oh yeah, it always comes back to her) because she has a horrid fear of snakes and this one was on her garage door - and it was back in another part of the country where kids get their first b.b. gun on their first birthday (do not say anything that could lead others to feel put-down, but I am not identifying what area of what country).
It took at least 50 - 100 b.b.'s (b.b.s?) because it (a) was dark (b) snakes are skinny (c) I'm not a good shot.
So, if it's a "snake in the grass" that 'yer needin' helpin' with, sorry, that "ain't" me - but if yer' lookin' to down a garage door snake, give me a jingle.
Lee
Posted by lil' jimi on April 22, 2003, at 20:45:24
In reply to LOL, yes, THAT'S WHY! » whiterabbit, posted by leeran on April 22, 2003, at 19:57:24
hi grace and lee,
could maybe someone go get miller in on this ..... seems i "heard" her "say" something about her situation and maybe she could use some of y'all's advice .... or support for her parallels to grace's issue here
(i'm an ol' fashioned husband... "for richer or poorer and in sickness and in health" means something to me... going on 17 years .... and my sweet wife is my saving angel.... many times over.)
just don't shoot me with no BB gun! ... heck, i'm on y'all's side!
i'm from/in texas ....(land of BB guns for 6yr-olds?)..... bad husbands? ..... with younger women?...... Get a Rope !
Posted by wendy b. on April 23, 2003, at 6:25:04
In reply to Re: Lose with War, posted by lil' jimi on April 22, 2003, at 14:09:47
> above here somewhere, i posted:
> > Opinions?hey, jimi, another person in favor of the 'dictatorship of the proletariat' here... i appreciated your post, and think Robbins and Sarandon are brave to do what they do... evidently Sarandon said on the tv show "The View" that she was disappointed in Hillary for voting for war... since Hillary is MY senator, i also think: well, what the hell is she on about? i voted for her as a person who had a reasonably liberal stance on issues important to me... now what? who else is there going to be to vote for next time? the green party candidate who has no chance of winning? and then feel like i'm just flushing my vote down the proverbial toilet?
> ((caution to all of our "too-sensitive-for-political-type-stuff-which-they-can't-agree-with" Babblers: PLEASE, please, PLuH-LEEZ,
> DO NOT READ THIS!!!))good boy, jimi.
> (heh, heh .... like that's going to do any good!)"well, at least he remains realistic, not totally devoid of a connection to reality..." said his shrink.
> ah, that's better ... .. now that we're down to the-strong-of-neurotransmitter and reasonably adult-of-maturity, and it's just us folks here ..... can we ... message ?i will send you some really great web sites about freedom of speech (since this is what i think we're talking about here, right?) i have to go to work, fight off the creditors (bow to shar here), and cart daughter to various activities after school, but i will check in later...
thanks for sticking to your guns... (no, wait! bad turn of phrase)...
wendy
Posted by leeran on April 23, 2003, at 11:28:22
In reply to Re: Lose with War, posted by lil' jimi on April 22, 2003, at 14:09:47
"it is because i have felt this 'unsafety' about speaking out about these important things"
--------------------------------------------------Jimi,
Boy, do I have a website for you . . .
Do you ever visit www.rumormillnews.com? Somehow, I think you might find it of interest.
If you go to the website, scroll down to the little blue box that says "reading room" (expect pop-ups, darn it), and click on the link.
You have to be an "agent" to post there (note: I am NOT an agent, nor have I ever desired to be one for myriad reasons), but there's some interesting reading from different points of view.
You don't need Visa or Mastercard there, but you do need a large grain of salt.
I enjoy the different perspectives. Some threads I simply ignore, and others I find quite intriguing. An added feature is that you can see how many times each message has been viewed.
If you go, let me know what you think.
Lee
p.s. I read a book a few years ago (very, very controversial) that left me questioning everything. Soon after reading that book I found RumorMillNews and a few other similar websites. I always start out at www.drudgereport.com but depending on the current political/national/world situation I will give these other sites a quick look to see what spin they're putting on things. Also, have you seen "Wag the Dog?"
Another P.S. - This post is about the extent of it for me as far as the subject of politics goes. My husband and I talk about it constantly (I think I wear on his nerves), plus, I get my political internet jollies from three websites (two of which I mentioned above). I started Lexapro again Monday so I'm hoping that little 1/2 pill will help me stop obsessing about what's going to happen and take a more an "I ultimately have no control over it" attitude.
Okay, gotta run, Jimi. I'm leaving this room full of mirrors because I hear my train a comin'. I need to get ready to take my husband to work - not in a purple haze for a change - will undoubtedly hit some crosstown traffic. I'll take a stab at make up but still won't be a foxy lady. Manic depression?
Posted by lil' jimi on April 23, 2003, at 12:17:52
In reply to Re: Lose with War » lil' jimi, posted by wendy b. on April 23, 2003, at 6:25:04
hi wendy!
thanks for your post!> > above here somewhere, i posted:
> > > Opinions?
>
> hey, jimi, another person in favor of the 'dictatorship of the proletariat' here...
glad to have you! ....
and as much as i admire the idealism embodied in the vision of a classless proletarian utopia, i'll want to abjure the implications of the 'dictatorship', what with being for free speech and all,
and if only to avoid possibly being over-intrepreted/misconstrued by our fellow posters .....
but i know what you mean and i appreciate the comradery... and your friendly spirit ....> i appreciated your post, and think Robbins and Sarandon are brave to do what they do...
evidently Sarandon said on the tv show "The View" that she was disappointed in Hillary for voting for war... since Hillary is MY senator, i also think: well, what the hell is she on about? i voted for her as a person who had a reasonably liberal stance on issues important to me... now what? who else is there going to be to vote for next time? the green party candidate who has no chance of winning? and then feel like i'm just flushing my vote down the proverbial toilet?
>
you have touched on one of the sensitive points, for me anyway, among our Loyal Oppostion and you have expressed my dismay most eloquently, absent the natural total-screaming-outrage reaction i'm inclined to ... sadly, senator clinton's husband is no help in this regard either, but she is Your senator .... so perhaps you should let her know how you feel .... my senators do not care how i feel, but i tell them anyway .... i'd be telling senator clinton a lot more , because i'd expect a lot more, if she was representing me ... where does schumer stand?..... unfortunately, this hillary-syndrome has afflicted a lot of the Loyal Opposition..: questionable loyalty and not enough opposition.and thanks also for phrasing exactly my sentiments about the right's stalking-horse, who call themselves 'greens' ...
>
> > ((caution to all of our "too-sensitive-for-political-type-stuff-which-they-can't-agree-with" Babblers: PLEASE, please, PLuH-LEEZ,
> > DO NOT READ THIS!!!))
>
> good boy, jimi.
>
don't think i overdid that? ... 'ppreciate the head pat!>
> > (heh, heh .... like that's going to do any good!)
>
> "well, at least he remains realistic, not totally devoid of a connection to reality..." said his shrink.
>
heh, well, i try. Thanks for the compliment ... my Lexapro should get some credit ... maybe>
> > ah, that's better ... .. now that we're down to the-strong-of-neurotransmitter and reasonably adult-of-maturity, and it's just us folks here ..... can we ... message ?
>
> i will send you some really great web sites about freedom of speech (since this is what i think we're talking about here, right?)Please do! and thank you! .... and yes, freedom of speech! .... which implies anyone may talk about anything, here or elsewhere .... BB guns, faithless husbands, pigeons, included ....no harm done .... it's all good.
> i have to go to work, fight off the creditors (bow to shar here), and cart daughter to various activities after school, but i will check in later...
>
blessings upon you and all the working moms .... they have got each of us trapped on these personal-finance treadmills .... hang in there .... our one and only is just 4.> thanks for sticking to your guns... (no, wait! bad turn of phrase)...
>
> wendymy thanks to you (and i can let 'em misconstrue that one .... maybe?)
peace,
~ jim
Posted by lil' jimi on April 23, 2003, at 12:53:56
In reply to Re: Lose with War » lil' jimi, posted by leeran on April 23, 2003, at 11:28:22
hi lee!
wow! .... what a great post, you poster, you! ...
big thanks!
now i've got a research project you've given me.... terrific! .... i'll be sure to get back to you when i've checked out these sites .... i have the salt ready!questions for you:
what book was it?
what's the 3rd site?lee,
you
*totally*
Rock!!!!thanks again,
~ lil' jimip.s. how did you do on lexapro before? ... so you're starting at 5mg since monday? .... day 3 at 5mg was rough for me ... take care!
extra p.s. how about a support message board for spouses/significant others of us babblers?... i'm imaginning what we might learn .... especially if ours were to compare notes!
to you: "....fly on, little wing ....." ..~ jim
Posted by wendy b. on April 24, 2003, at 19:47:47
In reply to Re: Lose with War » wendy b., posted by lil' jimi on April 23, 2003, at 12:17:52
...for writing back. i have been remiss. rest easy, i don't really think a dictatorship of the proles would work. besides, it's too late for that. global monolithic postmodern capitalism being the snowball that it is...
here are a couple for you to view.
*WARNING* Faint of heart, or people with office-mates, do not open these in mixed company. you have been warned.some scary s__ here...
http://www.takebackthemedia.com/bushnonazi.html
http://www.takebackthemedia.com/chickenhawks.html
will send you another funny soon, enjoy, jimi.(my little one is 11...)
wendy
Posted by lil' jimi on April 25, 2003, at 15:32:20
In reply to Re: thanks » lil' jimi, posted by wendy b. on April 24, 2003, at 19:47:47
> ...for writing back. i have been remiss.
pleasure's mine .... "we all need to be in remission", he joked ... (although, i hadn't notice you being remiss, unless you mean you're like a "miss" again ? (another (bad) joke)sorry.)
> rest easy, i don't really think a dictatorship of the proles would work. besides, it's too late for that. global monolithic postmodern capitalism being the snowball that it is...
>
...and her pdoc would later say, "she not only holds few illusions; she has a firm grasp on post-realism ...""....'coursin' i'd never'd really thought you'd be like a real-live commie or nothing like that there," mumbled her hayseed friend, "but you know them other folks will talk sometimes and all....?"
> here are a couple for you to view.
> *WARNING* Faint of heart, or people with office-mates, do not open these in mixed company. you have been warned.
>
excellent, ms working-mommie-person:
warn 'em; then blast 'em! .... yeee-haw! ... all civil-like, of course.> some scary s__ here...
>
> http://www.takebackthemedia.com/bushnonazi.html
>
> http://www.takebackthemedia.com/chickenhawks.html
>way cool.... exquiste .... better than any of my online resources ... i am impressed and grateful....
thank you very much for the great links!
allow me to recommend Vincent Bugliosi' "The Betrayal of America" ..... it is most convincing.... makes a great gift for any fascist friends!>
> will send you another funny soon, enjoy, jimi.
>
> (my little one is 11...)
>
> wendylooking forward to more funnies .... thanks again for the enjoy: ...it was/is immense.
we have quite a way to go from our 4 to your 11 .... (like 2010 ?(!))... and congratulations on your "little" one!
peace,
~ jim
Posted by ayuda on April 26, 2003, at 10:36:50
In reply to (Re: thanks)::: my Thanks to you::: Great links! » wendy b., posted by lil' jimi on April 25, 2003, at 15:32:20
I lost the email address you told me you check more than the yahoo one that I have. If you still have my email address, can you please let me know which one I should be contacting you at? I've been wanting to talk to you but cannot find for the life of me what I did with that information. My mind is sooooo fuzzy from the percodan these days, I only have a vague memory that you sent it to me, and that was only like 2 weeks ago. Thank you!!!!
Posted by lil' jimi on April 26, 2003, at 12:32:52
In reply to Jimi, jImi, jiMi, jimI » lil' jimi, posted by ayuda on April 26, 2003, at 10:36:50
Posted by ayuda on April 26, 2003, at 12:47:07
In reply to Re: my adx should be in your inbox by now (nm) » ayuda, posted by lil' jimi on April 26, 2003, at 12:32:52
Posted by lostsailor on April 26, 2003, at 18:35:09
In reply to Re: got it -- thx! (nm) » lil' jimi, posted by ayuda on April 26, 2003, at 12:47:07
you know the type that I type of...
~tony
Posted by lil' jimi on April 26, 2003, at 20:29:31
In reply to jimi, ever wear one of those funky bandanas????, posted by lostsailor on April 26, 2003, at 18:35:09
Posted by wendy b. on April 26, 2003, at 22:52:53
In reply to (Re: thanks)::: my Thanks to you::: Great links! » wendy b., posted by lil' jimi on April 25, 2003, at 15:32:20
> > ...for writing back. i have been remiss.
>
> pleasure's mine .... "we all need to be in remission", he joked ... (although, i hadn't notice you being remiss, unless you mean you're like a "miss" again ? (another (bad) joke)sorry.)yes, very bad. no i am not a miss again, i think i gave up on that sometime in my 30s. i think when i became a 'matron.' this changes everything, i suppose.
> > rest easy, i don't really think a dictatorship of the proles would work. besides, it's too late for that. global monolithic postmodern capitalism being the snowball that it is...
> >
> ...and her pdoc would later say, "she not only holds few illusions; she has a firm grasp on post-realism ..."... or post-post realism? "because post-realism is so passe' ... you know, dah-link. baudrillard got it all wrong..."
> "....'coursin' i'd never'd really thought you'd be like a real-live commie or nothing like that there," mumbled her hayseed friend, "but you know them other folks will talk sometimes and all....?"... and we wouldn't want that! don't worry, they already do. i am much maligned, Sir Hayseed. in fact, to be serious, i was married to a british commie, he stood on the street corners of london selling "the daily worker"... but never fear - i'm an "AM-ERR-KIN" through and through. a believer in free speech, in democracy, in human rights and human dignity. call me old-fashioned...
> > *WARNING* Faint of heart, or people with office-mates, do not open these in mixed company. you have been warned.
> >
> excellent, ms working-mommie-person:
> warn 'em; then blast 'em! .... yeee-haw! ... all civil-like, of course.but of course! warnings are good. "Achtung!"
> > some scary s__ here...
> >
> > http://www.takebackthemedia.com/bushnonazi.html
> >
> > http://www.takebackthemedia.com/chickenhawks.html
> >
>
> way cool.... exquiste .... better than any of my online resources ... i am impressed and grateful....cool! i was hoping you hadn't seen them before! i got a bunch more... from a friend, former contributor to this board. but i had to post the "chicken crossing the road" thing below first...
> thank you very much for the great links!
> allow me to recommend Vincent Bugliosi' "The Betrayal of America" ..... it is most convincing.... makes a great gift for any fascist friends!no kidding? i will have to check it out... wasn't bugliosi the prosecutor in sharon tate murders, brought to you by charles manson, etc., trial? i read his first book on the trial, i clearly remember the photos of sharon tate's apartment, ugh, it was awful. at least i think bugliosi wrote that... now i have to look it up.
> looking forward to more funnies .... thanks again for the enjoy: ...it was/is immense.
>
> we have quite a way to go from our 4 to your 11 .... (like 2010 ?(!))... and congratulations on your "little" one!ahh, not so little. and no need to congratulate! it wasn't (isn't) heroic to have had her! but the best thing i have ever done, to be sure, was to bring her into the world. by the way, jimi - i loved age 4! they are learning so much in that year, real social interaction takes place. they are becoming aware that other people have needs and feelings, too, which is a true milestone. actually, i loved all my daughter's ages, love the one she's in now, just on the precipice of puberty. it's not long now... periods and boyfriends and sullenness (we have some of that already!), the first drink, the first smoke.
and with that, i exit stage left,
wendy
jimi, i like you.
here it is:
*******************
The history of the world and recent events according to the chicken !!
______________________________Responses to the age-old question: "Why did the Chicken cross the road?"
George W. Bush
We don't really care why the chicken crossed the road. We just want to
know if the chicken is on our side of the road or not. The chicken is
either with us or it is against us. There is no middle ground here.Tony Blair
It is quite clear that the chicken will go to extreme lengths, indeed has
already done so, to hide these road crossings and avoid giving them up.Colin Powell
Now, to the left of the screen, you will clearly see the satellite image of
the chicken as it is crossing the road.Hans Blix
We have strong reason to believe that there is a chicken, but we have not
yet been allowed access to the other side of the road.Jacques Chirac
We will not support any action from a chicken who crosses the road before
ample time has been given to inspect the crossing. We will also accept no
ultimatums to have a chicken cross the road.Joscha Fischer (German Foreign secretary)
Excuse me sir, but I still haven't found a good reason for that chicken to
cross the road!Mohammed Aldouri (Iraqi ambassador)
The chicken did not cross the road. This is a complete fabrication. We
don't even have a chicken, much less a road for it to cross.Saddam Hussein
This chicken crossing over our road is an unprovoked act of rebellion, and
we are quite justified in dropping 50 tons of nerve gas on it.Peter Arnett
The initial chicken crossing has failed because of traffic resistance. Now
the chicken is trying to make another planned crossing. Clearly, the
chicken misjudged the determination of the initial traffic forces.Ralph Nader
The chicken's habitat on the original side of the road had been polluted by
unchecked industrialist greed. The chicken did not reach the unspoiled
habitat on the other side of the road because it was crushed by the wheels
of a gas-guzzling SUV.Pat Buchanan
To steal a job from a decent, hard-working American chicken.
Rush Limbaugh
I don't know why the chicken crossed the road, but I'll bet it was getting
a government grant to cross a road, and I'll bet someone out there is
already forming a support group to help chickens with "Chicken
crossing-the-road" syndrome. Can you believe this? How much more of this
can real Americans take? Chickens crossing the road, paid for by their tax
dollars, and when I say tax dollars, I'm talking about your money; money
the government took from you to build roads for chickens to cross.Martha Stewart
No one called to warn me which way that chicken was going. I had a
standing order at the farmer's market to sell my eggs when the price
dropped to a certain level. No little chicken gave me any insider
information.Jerry Falwell
Because the chicken is gay! Isn't it obvious? Can't you people see the
plain truth in front of your face? The chicken was going to the other
side. That's what they call it -- the other side. Yes, my friends, that
chicken is gay. And, if you eat that chicken, you will become gay too. I
say we boycott all chickens until we sort out this abomination that the
liberal media whitewashes with seemingly harmless phrases like "the other
side."Dr. Seuss
Did the chicken cross the road?
Did he cross it with a toad?
Yes, the chicken crossed the road,
But why it crossed, I've not been told!Ernest Hemingway
To die. In the rain. Alone.
Martin Luther King, Jr.
I envision a world where all chickens will be free to cross roads without
having their motives called into question.Grandpa
In my day, we didn't ask why the chicken crossed the road. Someone told us
that a chicken crossed the road, and that was good enough for us.Barbara Walters
Isn't that interesting? In a few moments we will be listening to the
chicken tell, for the first time, the heart-warming story of how it
experienced a serious case of molting and went on to accomplish its
life-long dream of crossing the road.John Lennon
Imagine all the chickens crossing the road in peace, and no chicken road
crossing religion too.Aristotle
It is simply the nature of chickens to cross the road.
Karl Marx
It was an historical inevitability.
Voltaire
I may not agree with what the chicken did, but I will defend to the death
its right to do it.Ronald Reagan
What chicken?
Captain Kirk
To boldly go where no chicken has gone before.
Fox Mulder
You saw it cross the road with your own eyes! How many more chickens have
to cross before you believe it?Sigmund Freud
The fact that you are at all concerned that the chicken crossed the road
reveals your underlying sexual insecurity.Bill Gates
I have just released E-Chicken 2003, which will not only cross roads, but
will lay eggs, file your important documents and balance your checkbook.
And Internet Explorer is an inextricable part of E-Chicken 2003, so we are
bundling it with a world-wide road package.Albert Einstein
Did the chicken really cross the road or did the road actually move beneath
the chicken?Bill Clinton
I did not cross the road with THAT chicken, Ms. Cluck! What do you mean by
cross? Could you define the word "cross" please?Buzz Aldrin
One small step for chicken, one giant leap for chicken-kind.
Colonel Sanders
Am I missing one?
Posted by ayuda on April 27, 2003, at 11:21:40
In reply to Re: my adx should be in your inbox by now (nm) » ayuda, posted by lil' jimi on April 26, 2003, at 12:32:52
And as soon as I got it right, it is so full this morning it keeps shooting my emails back at me!!!
Posted by lil' jimi on April 27, 2003, at 15:30:41
In reply to Re: my adx should be in your inbox by now » lil' jimi, posted by ayuda on April 27, 2003, at 11:21:40
most strange ...... yahoo address works anyway and i'll have my edu cleared up here soon enough.
as always, these mistakes i make are entirely because my doctor makes me take these drugs which prevent me from cleaning out my inbox on my mail server and it is my fault anyway, but i know you will understand and tolerate my ridiculous ineptitude .... <put one of those winking emoticons guys here, please>
lemme see ... where'd i put that shovel for emptying my inbox? ... i got to go do some work here now....
peacefulness,
~ jim
Posted by lil' jimi on April 28, 2003, at 16:06:03
In reply to Re: great links, etc. » lil' jimi, posted by wendy b. on April 26, 2003, at 22:52:53
hi again wendy,
> > > ...for writing back. i have been remiss.
> >
> > pleasure's mine .... "we all need to be in remission", he joked ... (although, i hadn't notice you being remiss, unless you mean you're like a "miss" again ? (another (bad) joke)sorry.)
>
> yes, very bad. no i am not a miss again, i think i gave up on that sometime in my 30s. i think when i became a 'matron.' this changes everything, i suppose.
>"Matron" ..... uh-oh, i not at all sure about this .... lemme check my http://www.m-w.com here:
"ma·tron
"Pronunciation: 'mA-tr&n
"Function: noun
"Etymology: Middle English matrone, from Middle "French, from Latin matrona, from matr-, mater
"Date: 14th century
"1 a : a married woman usually marked by dignified maturity or social distinction b : a woman who supervises women or children (as in a school or police station) c : the chief officer in a women's organization
2 : a female animal kept for breeding "oh, okay, that seems real hokey-dorrie.... and most honorable ... i just did not have that many positive connotations for 'matron' ... now i know better..... congratulations on your matronousity.
> > > rest easy, i don't really think a dictatorship of the proles would work. besides, it's too late for that. global monolithic postmodern capitalism being the snowball that it is...
> > >i'm still resting pretty swell (well, the weekend was ... heck, but anyway ...)... pretty swell-okay like .... and i would even if you were a throughgoing dialectical materialist .... i know some of those folks ... they ain't so bad.
> > ...and her pdoc would later say, "she not only holds few illusions; she has a firm grasp on post-realism ..."
>
> ... or post-post realism? "because post-realism is so passe' ... you know, dah-link. baudrillard got it all wrong..."
>we are now over my head ... postmodrenism is past me.... but i love your quotation, especially the "dah-link" dialect, but i only think i know that baudrillard is .... a writer? (look out google; here i come!)
>
> > "....'coursin' i'd never'd really thought you'd be like a real-live commie or nothing like that there," mumbled her hayseed friend, "but you know them other folks will talk sometimes and all....?"
>
> ... and we wouldn't want that! don't worry, they already do. i am much maligned, Sir Hayseed. in fact, to be serious, i was married to a british commie, he stood on the street corners of london selling "the daily worker"... but never fear - i'm an "AM-ERR-KIN" through and through. a believer in free speech, in democracy, in human rights and human dignity. call me old-fashioned...
>Maligned?! Ack! ... here in our land of the way civil? ... and now it comes out you been a real-live commie lover! Egads and Gad-Zooks! And some limey-commie, at that!..... well, thank goodness you're at least old-fashioned .... love that free speech stuff.
>
> > > *WARNING* Faint of heart, or people with office-mates, do not open these in mixed company. you have been warned.
> > >
> > excellent, ms working-mommie-person:
> > warn 'em; then blast 'em! .... yeee-haw! ... all civil-like, of course.
>
> but of course! warnings are good. "Achtung!"
>
>
> > > some scary s__ here...
> > >
> > > http://www.takebackthemedia.com/bushnonazi.html
> > >
> > > http://www.takebackthemedia.com/chickenhawks.html
> > >
> >
> > way cool.... exquiste .... better than any of my online resources ... i am impressed and grateful....
>
> cool! i was hoping you hadn't seen them before! i got a bunch more... from a friend, former contributor to this board. but i had to post the "chicken crossing the road" thing below first...
>
> > thank you very much for the great links!
> > allow me to recommend Vincent Bugliosi' "The Betrayal of America" ..... it is most convincing.... makes a great gift for any fascist friends!
>
> no kidding? i will have to check it out... wasn't bugliosi the prosecutor in sharon tate murders, brought to you by charles manson, etc., trial? i read his first book on the trial, i clearly remember the photos of sharon tate's apartment, ugh, it was awful. at least i think bugliosi wrote that... now i have to look it up.
>mr. vincent bugliosi is that very same prosecutor and author of "Helter Skelter", too ... he is your hard-nosed, law-and-order prosecutor-type, who happens to believe in our Constitution
>
> > looking forward to more funnies .... thanks again for the enjoy: ...it was/is immense.
> >
> > we have quite a way to go from our 4 to your 11 .... (like 2010 ?(!))... and congratulations on your "little" one!
>
> ahh, not so little. and no need to congratulate! it wasn't (isn't) heroic to have had her! but the best thing i have ever done, to be sure, was to bring her into the world. by the way, jimi - i loved age 4! they are learning so much in that year, real social interaction takes place. they are becoming aware that other people have needs and feelings, too, which is a true milestone. actually, i loved all my daughter's ages, love the one she's in now, just on the precipice of puberty. it's not long now... periods and boyfriends and sullenness (we have some of that already!), the first drink, the first smoke.
>Oh, i'd say congratulations are due all the more, modest, life-giver, good-mother person: congrats and way to go!... to us guys, let me tell you, child birth looks pretty darned heroic (!) and as a parent i can say that raising sentient human beings, done well, is wonderfully heroic ..... our 4 year old is our hero and, yes, 4 is way fun and way funny ... your daughter is blessed to have such a hep mom! ... especially one who is prepared to deal with all those real-deal girl issues.... you are cool.
> and with that, i exit stage left,
>
> wendy
>
> jimi, i like you.hey! watch out with that stuff!... er, okay, but .. ..well, you're alright too.
>
> here it is:
> *******************
>
>
> The history of the world and recent events according to the chicken !!
> ______________________________
>
> Responses to the age-old question: "Why did the Chicken cross the road?"
>
> George W. Bush
>
> We don't really care why the chicken crossed the road. We just want to
> know if the chicken is on our side of the road or not. The chicken is
> either with us or it is against us. There is no middle ground here.
>
> Tony Blair
>
> It is quite clear that the chicken will go to extreme lengths, indeed has
> already done so, to hide these road crossings and avoid giving them up.
>
> Colin Powell
>
> Now, to the left of the screen, you will clearly see the satellite image of
> the chicken as it is crossing the road.
>
> Hans Blix
>
> We have strong reason to believe that there is a chicken, but we have not
> yet been allowed access to the other side of the road.
>
> Jacques Chirac
>
> We will not support any action from a chicken who crosses the road before
> ample time has been given to inspect the crossing. We will also accept no
> ultimatums to have a chicken cross the road.
>
> Joscha Fischer (German Foreign secretary)
>
> Excuse me sir, but I still haven't found a good reason for that chicken to
> cross the road!
>
> Mohammed Aldouri (Iraqi ambassador)
>
> The chicken did not cross the road. This is a complete fabrication. We
> don't even have a chicken, much less a road for it to cross.
>
> Saddam Hussein
>
> This chicken crossing over our road is an unprovoked act of rebellion, and
> we are quite justified in dropping 50 tons of nerve gas on it.
>
> Peter Arnett
>
> The initial chicken crossing has failed because of traffic resistance. Now
> the chicken is trying to make another planned crossing. Clearly, the
> chicken misjudged the determination of the initial traffic forces.
>
> Ralph Nader
>
> The chicken's habitat on the original side of the road had been polluted by
> unchecked industrialist greed. The chicken did not reach the unspoiled
> habitat on the other side of the road because it was crushed by the wheels
> of a gas-guzzling SUV.
>
> Pat Buchanan
>
> To steal a job from a decent, hard-working American chicken.
>
> Rush Limbaugh
>
> I don't know why the chicken crossed the road, but I'll bet it was getting
> a government grant to cross a road, and I'll bet someone out there is
> already forming a support group to help chickens with "Chicken
> crossing-the-road" syndrome. Can you believe this? How much more of this
> can real Americans take? Chickens crossing the road, paid for by their tax
> dollars, and when I say tax dollars, I'm talking about your money; money
> the government took from you to build roads for chickens to cross.
>
> Martha Stewart
>
> No one called to warn me which way that chicken was going. I had a
> standing order at the farmer's market to sell my eggs when the price
> dropped to a certain level. No little chicken gave me any insider
> information.
>
> Jerry Falwell
>
> Because the chicken is gay! Isn't it obvious? Can't you people see the
> plain truth in front of your face? The chicken was going to the other
> side. That's what they call it -- the other side. Yes, my friends, that
> chicken is gay. And, if you eat that chicken, you will become gay too. I
> say we boycott all chickens until we sort out this abomination that the
> liberal media whitewashes with seemingly harmless phrases like "the other
> side."
>
> Dr. Seuss
>
> Did the chicken cross the road?
> Did he cross it with a toad?
> Yes, the chicken crossed the road,
> But why it crossed, I've not been told!
>
> Ernest Hemingway
>
> To die. In the rain. Alone.
>
> Martin Luther King, Jr.
>
> I envision a world where all chickens will be free to cross roads without
> having their motives called into question.
>
> Grandpa
>
> In my day, we didn't ask why the chicken crossed the road. Someone told us
> that a chicken crossed the road, and that was good enough for us.
>
> Barbara Walters
>
> Isn't that interesting? In a few moments we will be listening to the
> chicken tell, for the first time, the heart-warming story of how it
> experienced a serious case of molting and went on to accomplish its
> life-long dream of crossing the road.
>
> John Lennon
>
> Imagine all the chickens crossing the road in peace, and no chicken road
> crossing religion too.
>
> Aristotle
>
> It is simply the nature of chickens to cross the road.
>
> Karl Marx
>
> It was an historical inevitability.
>
> Voltaire
>
> I may not agree with what the chicken did, but I will defend to the death
> its right to do it.
>
> Ronald Reagan
>
> What chicken?
>
> Captain Kirk
>
> To boldly go where no chicken has gone before.
>
> Fox Mulder
>
> You saw it cross the road with your own eyes! How many more chickens have
> to cross before you believe it?
>
> Sigmund Freud
>
> The fact that you are at all concerned that the chicken crossed the road
> reveals your underlying sexual insecurity.
>
> Bill Gates
>
> I have just released E-Chicken 2003, which will not only cross roads, but
> will lay eggs, file your important documents and balance your checkbook.
> And Internet Explorer is an inextricable part of E-Chicken 2003, so we are
> bundling it with a world-wide road package.
>
> Albert Einstein
>
> Did the chicken really cross the road or did the road actually move beneath
> the chicken?
>
> Bill Clinton
>
> I did not cross the road with THAT chicken, Ms. Cluck! What do you mean by
> cross? Could you define the word "cross" please?
>
> Buzz Aldrin
>
> One small step for chicken, one giant leap for chicken-kind.
>
> Colonel Sanders
>
> Am I missing one?
>HA HA HA HA HA HAAAA ha HA HAAAA HAAA!
that is great! ... our 4 year-old hero loves to tell us, and anyone else, the original version of this "joke" ... again and again and again ... i always laugh real big for him ... all of which contributes to the general hysteria all the more ....a politcal friend of mine has just offered me, a link in keeping with yours-ones above
(way, way Way offensive, people(!), like gory-bloody gross: i ain't kidding!!):
http://www.ericblumrich.com/liberation.htmlhey, looky here, we are the lead-off for PSocialB's Current Period ... golly! ( or Gollllll-LEE!)
i appreciate your 4bear-ants for my being the remiss-ing one this time .... hard weekend, glad to be at work so i can relax, heh!
yeah, wendy, i like you, too.
peace,
~ jim
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