Psycho-Babble Social Thread 7766

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Why isn't it enough . . .

Posted by AKC on July 22, 2001, at 15:01:06

that one cannot just say that she (or he) is in pain (of any type), and another person just except that fact and not judge?

 

Re: Why isn't it enough . . .

Posted by Phil on July 22, 2001, at 15:48:44

In reply to Why isn't it enough . . ., posted by AKC on July 22, 2001, at 15:01:06

> that one cannot just say that she (or he) is in pain (of any type), and another person just except that fact and not judge?

AKC, I think honesty is not what many people want. When someone asks,"How are you?" They just want to hear...fine. If you say otherwise, they want to fix it or ignore it. Or diminish it, or say...you know there are a lot of people worse off than you.
There are those who understand but they are few and far between.
I don't know, does that sound right??


 

Re: Why isn't it enough . . . » Phil

Posted by AKC on July 22, 2001, at 16:11:14

In reply to Re: Why isn't it enough . . ., posted by Phil on July 22, 2001, at 15:48:44

You are exactly right - but at the same time, I just don't get it. As I seek to find my place in this world, and strive so hard not to judge others myself (which is very hard - just see some of my posts over on PBA), I can tire myself out with these big picture questions. Forget about the big, bad world out there and ethnic cleansing, and racism, and what have you - just take this small message board and some of the horror stories you see. Families not supporting their (supposed) loved ones. I'm pretty fortunate - my family at least tries, though my brothers still have that bootstrap mentality and my mother is still certain that there is a magic pill (doesn't get why I need so much therapy, group therapy, and heaven forbid, alanon).

I would have fit right in with the hippie generation (I was a tad too young) -- we just gotta love one another! And the first step in that is acceptance. Letting us be who we are and accepting that we feel what we feel and what we feel is real. As real as anything else that is good or bad out there.

Oops, here I go again, a little longwinded.

Hounddogging.

 

Re: Why isn't it enough . . .

Posted by Willow on July 22, 2001, at 16:25:20

In reply to Re: Why isn't it enough . . . » Phil , posted by AKC on July 22, 2001, at 16:11:14

I had a similar conversation with a friend today. I think it depends on who you are talking to.

Doctor will want to diagnose
Therapist analyse
Acquaintance don't want to hear it
Friend fix it
etc

Who are you referring to?

Regarding the big picture, I was thinking about the differnces in societies. Here I feel elders expect children and younger adults to pay homage to them; make the routine phone calls, check in to make sure everything is okay, etc. But shouldn't it be the other way around? The elders knowing when someone may need help, advice, and just checking up.

Reminded me of a joke: Daughter is visits mother. Mom tells daughter it's time to go to bed. Mom is in eighties, daughter her sixties!

Whispering Willow

 

Re: Why isn't it enough . . .

Posted by Phil on July 22, 2001, at 16:28:41

In reply to Re: Why isn't it enough . . . » Phil , posted by AKC on July 22, 2001, at 16:11:14

You're right about acceptance and having a right to feel what you feel.
As far as us old hippies, we just chatted up loving one another so we could (A) get laid or
(B) get another hit off the bong. Whoops, this is Texas. You must say 'water pipe' in Texas.
It's wrong to say bong.

Phil

 

Re: Why isn't it enough . . . » Phil

Posted by Marie1 on July 22, 2001, at 19:52:54

In reply to Re: Why isn't it enough . . ., posted by Phil on July 22, 2001, at 16:28:41

> As far as us old hippies, we just chatted up loving one another so we could (A) get laid or
> (B) get another hit off the bong.

Phil,
You're really funny! That's the second laugh I had today from your posts (the first one being who's allowed to piss you off!) Just wanted to say thanks.

Marie

 

Re: Why isn't it enough . . .

Posted by kid_A on July 22, 2001, at 20:56:53

In reply to Why isn't it enough . . ., posted by AKC on July 22, 2001, at 15:01:06

> that one cannot just say that she (or he) is in pain (of any type), and another person just except that fact and not judge?

Not that it matters what people think about us, but maybe because the 'symptoms' are so difficult to see... Maybe because we dont turn blue in the face or grow bat wings and scaly skin, maybe we're to blame because so many of us don't even know ourselves, can't see that we are 'depressed' are diagnosed with clinical depression, we have general anxiety disorder, we have social phobia, we have ruminating thoughts... there are so many words to describe what we have but know way to show people that its real other than the difference between when we are having a 'good day' versus when we are having a 'bad day'... but sadly, they still dont get it... they think that we just 'got over it'... get on with your life, buck up there young man... take it on the chin and roll with the punches... but i get punched and i get knocked out, and im falling down in the sewer, trying to get out again, rats rally.

 

True I always somehow say I'm not too bad thanks » Phil

Posted by Dubya on July 26, 2001, at 0:16:36

In reply to Re: Why isn't it enough . . ., posted by Phil on July 22, 2001, at 15:48:44

some people love or live by honesty and the majority appears not to. So for instance, let's say you're at college and u start talk to a classmate and reveal that you have depression, they'd act all weird and scared if they are around their "clique" or group of people... yet when you talk to that person one on one without anyone to influence their response, they'd say "oh, how terrible, is there anything I can do to help?"... I don't know I guess I'm just totally wrong on this eventhough this is what seems to happen to me.


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