Psycho-Babble Psychology Thread 534933

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Re: bad shrinks fairywings

Posted by ace on July 28, 2005, at 18:14:06

In reply to Re: bad shrinks Phillipa, posted by fairywings on July 25, 2005, at 20:34:20

> Can't imagine that anyone would actually go to him after one visit! Guess that's why he was doing jails and nursing homes - poor residents! What an A**!
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> I thank God for my p-doc, he's kind, thoughtful, and decent. He's the way they should be. Sorry you had such a bad experience Phillipa.
>
> FW/Jazzy

Bad Shrink!? 90% are bad!!! They have the highest drug abuse/suicide rates, they mock their patients (I have seen this many times) and they annoy me. To be fair the other 10% are warm, open minded, wise, caring, and thoughtful. I intend to be one of these shrinks....

Ace

 

Re: bad shrinks ace

Posted by fairywings on July 28, 2005, at 18:14:06

In reply to Re: bad shrinks fairywings, posted by ace on July 26, 2005, at 19:16:23


> I intend to be one of these shrinks....
>
> Ace

Hi Ace,
I think mine would fall into that 10%.
So, are you in school to become a psychiatrist? I wish you well, it can't be an easy job.
fairywings

 

Re: bad shrinks ace

Posted by Phillipa on July 28, 2005, at 18:14:06

In reply to Re: bad shrinks fairywings, posted by ace on July 26, 2005, at 19:16:23

Ace, Please be my shrink! Fondly, Phillipa

 

Re: bad shrinks

Posted by ace on July 28, 2005, at 18:14:06

In reply to Re: bad shrinks ?ace, posted by fairywings on July 26, 2005, at 20:01:38

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> > I intend to be one of these shrinks....
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> > Ace
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> Hi Ace,
> I think mine would fall into that 10%.
> So, are you in school to become a psychiatrist? I wish you well, it can't be an easy job.
> fairywings


Sure am. At the moment I am doing neuroanatomy which is a REAL hard course...I am also doing a bunch of other studies...I have 4 years before I can specialise.

A lot of shrinks seem uncaring because they keep a clear line between patient and doctor. That's why some appear they don't care. They do this to protect themselves from vicarious trauma. I disagree with this. I wish to full empathise with my patient, and be as warm as possible with him/her. Ofcourse my behaviour will be within the ethics of medical practice but, I will always be very warm, caring, and empathising. I know what hell the patients go through.

Cheers!

Ace
>
>

 

Re: bad shrinks

Posted by ace on July 28, 2005, at 18:14:06

In reply to Re: bad shrinks ?ace, posted by Phillipa on July 26, 2005, at 20:26:55

> Ace, Please be my shrink! Fondly, Phillipa

Sure thing!! Just wait 4 years and I'll be their!!!!!!

Cheers!!

Ace

 

Re: bad shrinks fairywings ace

Posted by fairywings on July 28, 2005, at 18:14:06

In reply to Re: bad shrinks fairywings, posted by ace on July 26, 2005, at 23:01:15


I wish to full empathise with my patient, and be as warm as possible with him/her. Ofcourse my behaviour will be within the ethics of medical practice but, I will always be very warm, caring, and empathising. I know what hell the patients go through.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Ace

Neuroanatomy? The anatomy of the brain? Interesting.....

Well, I won't ask you specifically where you are, but what part of the country, so I can get my hopes up! ; ) Mid West?

You will be a wonderful doctor, I'm sure. Your patients will love you, you will be so busy, and hopefully incredibly happy.

FW


 

Dunno... ace

Posted by Racer on July 28, 2005, at 18:14:07

In reply to Re: bad shrinks fairywings, posted by ace on July 26, 2005, at 23:01:15

> >
> > > I intend to be one of these shrinks....
> > >
> > > Ace
> >
> > Hi Ace,
> > I think mine would fall into that 10%.
> > So, are you in school to become a psychiatrist? I wish you well, it can't be an easy job.
> > fairywings
>
>
>
> A lot of shrinks seem uncaring because they keep a clear line between patient and doctor. That's why some appear they don't care. They do this to protect themselves from vicarious trauma.


I don't know that I completely agree with this. In the case of my last psychiatrist, Dr EyeCandy, I was -- and still am -- convinced that he maintained a thick wall between himself and his patients because it was necessary to his ego to see "us" as somehow completely alien to him. I always got the impression that he felt insecure whenever he realized that I wasn't all that different from him in some ways, that whole "there but the grace of God" thing, if that makes sense? I sometimes thought that part of his lack of urgency in my treatment was just wanting me to remain "different" from him, so that he wouldn't feel threatened by how much of him being on one side of the desk and me on the other was sheer luck, you know?

Just my own little view, though. And while I think I'd be fascinated by neuroanatomy, I'm so glad I'll never be graded on it!

 

Re: Dunno... Racer

Posted by fairywings on July 28, 2005, at 18:14:07

In reply to Dunno... ace, posted by Racer on July 26, 2005, at 23:39:47


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> I don't know that I completely agree with this. In the case of my last psychiatrist, Dr EyeCandy, I was -- and still am -- convinced that he maintained a thick wall between himself and his patients because it was necessary to his ego to see "us" as somehow completely alien to him.

That would make me really uncomfortable Racer. What I like about my p-doc is that he treats me as a completely normal person, not like I'm "sick". I don't have any serious illnesses, so I don't know how someone else might feel, but it just seems as though he is trying, like any other doctor, to make me feel the best I can, which I appreciate.

FW

 

Re: Dunno... fairywings

Posted by Racer on July 28, 2005, at 18:14:07

In reply to Re: Dunno... Racer, posted by fairywings on July 26, 2005, at 23:54:22

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> >
> > I don't know that I completely agree with this. In the case of my last psychiatrist, Dr EyeCandy, I was -- and still am -- convinced that he maintained a thick wall between himself and his patients because it was necessary to his ego to see "us" as somehow completely alien to him.
>
> That would make me really uncomfortable Racer. What I like about my p-doc is that he treats me as a completely normal person, not like I'm "sick". I don't have any serious illnesses, so I don't know how someone else might feel, but it just seems as though he is trying, like any other doctor, to make me feel the best I can, which I appreciate.
>
> FW


LOL! See, I have a Serious Mental Illness, so it's not like I'm a regular human being -- I grow fur and fangs at the new moon, you know...

My SMI? Major Depressive Disorder. Somehow, it doesn't strike me that that really makes me an alien. Or maybe it's the fact that I didn't have health insurance -- I had been working for companies that didn't offer it for the ten years before these events occurred -- which I guess is proof that I'm not worthy of basic respect.

By the way, I do have a very bad attitude right now. Just got a call this morning that upset me.

Seriously, though, and with the sarcasm turned down, I did get very frustrated by the doctor's attitude. It was pretty much impossible that I would respond to anything he prescribed because I distrusted him so much. That was really horrible.

I hope you can continue to be resilient and empathetic towards your patients. Good luck.

 

Re: Dunno... Racer

Posted by fairywings on July 28, 2005, at 18:14:07

In reply to Re: Dunno... fairywings, posted by Racer on July 27, 2005, at 11:48:48


>
> LOL! See, I have a Serious Mental Illness, so it's not like I'm a regular human being -- I grow fur and fangs at the new moon, you know...
>

Hi Racer,

I sure hope you didn't take what I was saying to mean that I was worthy of being treated better than someone with a SMI. What I was trying to say, that I guess I didn't say very well, was that I think my p-doc treats his patients the way he would want to be treated with respect, courtesy, kindness, warmth, and a sense of humor. He us them as though we are well, not sick, and IMO I think that is beneficial.


I wouldn't be comfortable with anything less than that because I got very sick, as a teenager, with my first psychiatrist. I became suicidally depressed because of his "theraputic measures". He was a sick man, who thrived on dependency. I was too young to know what hit me, and my parents were too ignorant to get me the heck out of there.

I'm sorry if it came across sounding like I was being snotty. I'm sincerely sorry that you are having a rough time right now.

FW

 

More on bad shrinks...

Posted by med_empowered on July 28, 2005, at 18:14:07

In reply to Re: Dunno... Racer, posted by fairywings on July 27, 2005, at 14:43:00

Yeah, a lot of shrinks irritate me to no end. They do have incredibly high divorce rates, suicide rates, and drug abuse rates. Psychiatrists also account for a disproportionate number of docs investigated for ethical and legal violations. Despite this, they are entitled to recommend someone be hospitalized against his/her will and *treated* as members of this kind of shady profession deem appropriate. The thing that gets me about psychiatry is the power thing....so many shrinks have ego/power issues, and if you step on their toes they get really, really upset. That and they tend to be manipulative. Case in point: at one point, a shrink accussed me of abusing a certain medication, which I had never abused. He made this claim without any proof whatshoever--I suppose that he thought since he "felt" it must be true, it was, in fact, what was going on. So, he raises his voice, delivers his speech about how I'm abusing medication X, and asks me, in this mocking, condescending tone "And what do you have to say about the situation?" I just responded that it obviously didn't matter what I said or even what the truth was--he had already made up his mind, and that was going to be that and I refused to discuss it further. He got upset, terminated the session early, and I got another shrink.

 

Re: More on bad shrinks... med_empowered

Posted by fairywings on July 28, 2005, at 18:14:07

In reply to More on bad shrinks..., posted by med_empowered on July 27, 2005, at 19:59:25

> So, he raises his voice, delivers his speech about how I'm abusing medication X, and asks me, in this mocking, condescending tone "And what do you have to say about the situation?" I just responded that it obviously didn't matter what I said or even what the truth was--he had already made up his mind, and that was going to be that and I refused to discuss it further. He got upset, terminated the session early, and I got another shrink.

Geeze, talk about a need for control! Wow, good thing you got a new shrink. Are they any better?

FW

 

New shrink...

Posted by med_empowered on July 28, 2005, at 18:14:07

In reply to Re: More on bad shrinks... med_empowered, posted by fairywings on July 27, 2005, at 21:51:56

hey, yeah, my new doc is a lot better...but still, there seems to be this need on the part of psychiatrists to control the discussion, control the treatment, etc. Its really frustrating, especially when you realize that all most shrinks do is write prescriptions (labs and stuff like that are usually done by other docs, at least in my case).

 

Re: New shrink... med_empowered

Posted by fairywings on July 28, 2005, at 18:14:38

In reply to New shrink..., posted by med_empowered on July 28, 2005, at 2:34:23

> hey, yeah, my new doc is a lot better...but still, there seems to be this need on the part of psychiatrists to control the discussion, control the treatment, etc.

Gosh, now I KNOW how blessed I am! Mine is just awesome in every way. None of the bullsh*t I've seen mentioned here.

FW

 

Re: Dunno... fairywings

Posted by Racer on July 28, 2005, at 18:14:38

In reply to Re: Dunno... Racer, posted by fairywings on July 27, 2005, at 14:43:00

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> >
> > LOL! See, I have a Serious Mental Illness, so it's not like I'm a regular human being -- I grow fur and fangs at the new moon, you know...
> >
>
> Hi Racer,
>
> I sure hope you didn't take what I was saying to mean that I was worthy of being treated better than someone with a SMI. What I was trying to say, that I guess I didn't say very well, was that I think my p-doc treats his patients the way he would want to be treated with respect, courtesy, kindness, warmth, and a sense of humor. He us them as though we are well, not sick, and IMO I think that is beneficial.
>
>
> I wouldn't be comfortable with anything less than that because I got very sick, as a teenager, with my first psychiatrist. I became suicidally depressed because of his "theraputic measures". He was a sick man, who thrived on dependency. I was too young to know what hit me, and my parents were too ignorant to get me the heck out of there.
>
> I'm sorry if it came across sounding like I was being snotty. I'm sincerely sorry that you are having a rough time right now.
>
> FW
>
>

NO! I wasn't being sarcastic AT you -- I was being sarcastic WITH you!

All I meant was that I've come across some of the Bad Pdocs you were discussing -- the sort who apparently don't see their patients as fellow human beings, but as some other species.

No, you and I are on the same page, and just fine -- unless you're mad at me? {pout} Sorry for the misunderstanding.

 

Re: Dunno...

Posted by fairywings on July 28, 2005, at 18:14:38

In reply to Re: Dunno... fairywings, posted by Racer on July 28, 2005, at 12:59:27


>
> NO! I wasn't being sarcastic AT you -- I was being sarcastic WITH you!
>

I'm so glad you weren't mad at me! And of course I'm not mad at you! You're a sweetie!

Wish you could find a p-doc like mine!
FW

 

GOOD shrinks... fairywings

Posted by Racer on July 28, 2005, at 22:08:34

In reply to Re: Dunno..., posted by fairywings on July 28, 2005, at 15:52:10

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>
> Wish you could find a p-doc like mine!
> FW

Actually, after things got way beyond worse with Dr EyeCandy, I switched to a new psychiatrist: Dr CattleProd. I like him a great deal, and think he's an excellent doctor. He's been great so far, and I'm mostly better -- although still having trouble with amotivation and a bit of residual depression...

Thanks, and I'm glad we're OK

 

Re: New shrink... fairywings

Posted by MM on July 29, 2005, at 1:22:33

In reply to Re: New shrink... med_empowered, posted by fairywings on July 28, 2005, at 6:17:28

Hi FairyWings....I'm just wondering what part of the country you're from if you don't mind telling me? I'm not sure how to think of my pdoc. There's not really much rapport there (he seems so detached which might be normal for a pdoc) so I can't gauge if he's good, or ok, or not so great. The one thing that kind of worries me is that he lets me decide a lot of the time where to go with medications (which is most of what we discuss in the 15-20 minute session)...like "What do you want to do?" "Um, up this or that maybe??" "Okay" and I kind of don't know if I want that much power. Anyway, just wondering if there's a chance your pdoc is anywhere near me. Thanks.
MM

 

Re: New shrink... MM

Posted by fairywings on July 29, 2005, at 6:41:58

In reply to Re: New shrink... fairywings, posted by MM on July 29, 2005, at 1:22:33

> Hi FairyWings....I'm just wondering what part of the country you're from if you don't mind telling me?

Midwest, and you?
FW

 

Re: New shrink... fairywings

Posted by MM on July 29, 2005, at 17:10:46

In reply to Re: New shrink... MM, posted by fairywings on July 29, 2005, at 6:41:58

I'm in colorado (I've mentioned that on here before so what the hay).
MM

 

Re: New shrink... MM

Posted by fairywings on July 29, 2005, at 21:37:09

In reply to Re: New shrink... fairywings, posted by MM on July 29, 2005, at 17:10:46

> I'm in colorado (I've mentioned that on here before so what the hay).
> MM

That would be a long way to go for a good p-doc! ; )
FW


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