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Re: Useful psychology and psychotherapy books Dinah

Posted by gardenergirl on March 18, 2005, at 13:50:26

In reply to Useful psychology and psychotherapy books, posted by Dinah on March 17, 2005, at 22:14:56

Just added this to my Amazon wish list. I should ask my dad for a gift card to Amazon this year instead of Target or Pier One like he usually does. Imagine how high the pile of books on my nightstand would get!

Thanks for the update.

gg

 

In fact, help..I've been sucked into Amazon!

Posted by gardenergirl on March 18, 2005, at 14:58:40

In reply to Re: Useful psychology and psychotherapy books Dinah, posted by gardenergirl on March 18, 2005, at 13:50:26

And I can't get out! I think I even have two Amazon windows open...

Somebody call shopping 911! Booksaholics! I need an intervention fast! Please, tough love!

;)

gg

 

Rules about books gardenergirl

Posted by daisym on March 18, 2005, at 18:43:20

In reply to In fact, help..I've been sucked into Amazon!, posted by gardenergirl on March 18, 2005, at 14:58:40

If you buy a new one, you must give away an old one. If you finish one, you can then buy another new one. Unless you find the one you want on sale. And then you can buy it right then. Or if the moon is up and the book was facing east...then you can buy it. Or, it was in black ink on the web page...then -- well you get the picture.

I finally put a bookshelf next to my side of the bed since the night stand was too full. Now the bookshelf is full, I need another one.

 

Re: Rules about books daisym

Posted by gardenergirl on March 18, 2005, at 19:33:21

In reply to Rules about books gardenergirl, posted by daisym on March 18, 2005, at 18:43:20

Um, I've been calling it a nightstand, but it's really a bookshelf! And it's full! Although admittedly, a CD player takes up one of the shelves. Gotta have my peaceful white noise...

Good rules, though.

Do you think 47 is too many for a wish list? Gah!

Thanks,

gg

 

Re: Rules about books

Posted by Dinah on March 18, 2005, at 22:43:49

In reply to Rules about books gardenergirl, posted by daisym on March 18, 2005, at 18:43:20

lol. Our bedroom is small, and my husband gave me one of my son's old rolling diaper carts to keep the books I have yet to read on. It collapsed under the weight. :)

So while we're redoing the library, I'm intending to put in a new system. I've got all the books on a database, and I'll just mark the ones I haven't read yet, then go hunt them up on the bookshelves if I want to read them. Hmmm... I'll have to add a half finished checkmark. I usually start all my new books and have thirty or forty half read ones lying about all over.

 

Re: Help, Dinah Susan47

Posted by Dinah on March 18, 2005, at 22:49:30

In reply to Help, Dinah Dinah, posted by Susan47 on March 18, 2005, at 9:12:18

No, it's no Yalom.

It's very clinical in tone, so far at least - and I'm halfway through.

When I was discussing it with my therapist today I couldn't remember half of the right words and I wasn't sure I was getting my point across. But from his responses, I think I probably did ok.

He seemed to agree with me. Perhaps it's something he's always known about me. But he sees how it could be playing a big role in my work motivation problems.

Geesh. You'd think the reward of getting paid would be enough. Got to get the income to buy those books, after all.

(Oh, and most importantly, he said that he wouldn't decide that because I was dependent, he'd have to peck me out of the nest. He says that any weaning to be done will be done by me, not him. He's not going to push me to do anything I don't want to do.)

 

Re: Help, Dinah

Posted by Susan47 on March 19, 2005, at 0:12:43

In reply to Re: Help, Dinah Susan47, posted by Dinah on March 18, 2005, at 22:49:30

(Sigh) What a sweetheart.
I'll let you finish the book for me, then. I can probably get by without reading it. I've got to crack down on my homework and I just cut myself with a big kitchen knife, accidentally put my finger right smack on it I have really charp knives and this is like my sixth cutting accident. Finger's swollen, cold, can't get it to stop hurting and it gushes blood but I'm not going to Emerg, it'll be a zoo tonight, they'll have me there probably three or four hours min, and I won't get my homework done. I don't know. Can a deep cut heal itself without getting infected? Sheesh I should just go no I'll take Advil.

 

Re: Help, Dinah Susan47

Posted by Dinah on March 19, 2005, at 8:59:31

In reply to Re: Help, Dinah, posted by Susan47 on March 19, 2005, at 0:12:43

If you think you need stitches, then go.

I hurt my finger with a straight edged razor a while back (a genuine craft related accident involving a barbie) and *did* go into the late night urgent care place. It ended up not needing stitches but the finger tip's been a bit odd and tingly ever since and that was months ago.

I vote for go.

 

Re: Help, Dinah

Posted by Susan47 on March 19, 2005, at 9:58:11

In reply to Re: Help, Dinah Susan47, posted by Dinah on March 19, 2005, at 8:59:31

You damaged some nerves. I pasted mine together with a bandaid and it stopped bleeding and it only hurts when I take the bandaid off, like this morning after my shower. I didn't look at it, I'm keeping it tightly together and hoping it doesn't infect. I don't think it will. If I get it wet it'll start bleeding so I'm just being careful not too. But I think it'll be okay, thanks Dinah, I slept with it last night and it didn't start bleeding so Yay. I'm sorry about your finger. How long did it take to heal yours?

 

Re: Help, Dinah Susan47

Posted by cubic_me on March 19, 2005, at 12:55:44

In reply to Re: Help, Dinah, posted by Susan47 on March 19, 2005, at 9:58:11

I cut the tip of my finger severely when it went straight down onto a kife blade when I reached into the dishwasher. I held it together with bandaids, when blood seeped out through the first I put more on and so on. I didn't take them off for 24hours, then changed it daily after that. It didn't get infected, and although I lost a little sensation in it for a month or so it is fine now.

I hope your recovers ok susan, just take care of it.

 

Re: Help, Dinah cubic_me

Posted by Susan47 on March 19, 2005, at 16:30:08

In reply to Re: Help, Dinah Susan47, posted by cubic_me on March 19, 2005, at 12:55:44

Thank you cubic me. I'm pretty sure it'll be fine. It was a clean cut, very sharp knife, and as long as I keep the edges and the flesh together I'm sure it'll heal well. I have those finger cots; dishes, doing the dishes, that germy yucky job I hate it, that's the one that'll cause problems if anything will. I used to have a dishwasher. Now it's me. :)

 

Neosporin Susan47

Posted by gardenergirl on March 19, 2005, at 18:26:42

In reply to Re: Help, Dinah cubic_me, posted by Susan47 on March 19, 2005, at 16:30:08

Use some with the bandaid. Not too much or the pad will get soggy. But it helps.

I cut my finger cleaning a pill cutter. Very stupid, not thinking.."oh, look this side needs it too!" rub rub rub, ouch!

I had a hard getting it to stop bleeding, too. I had to use ice, pressure, and hold it higher than my heart for a good 20 minutes. I thought I was going to have to get a stitch or two, but I had a plane to catch. Fortunately, it stopped bleeding, I put a bandage on it with a blob of neosporin, which I used every time I changed the bandage.

gg

 

Re: Neosporin gardenergirl

Posted by Susan47 on March 19, 2005, at 21:40:08

In reply to Neosporin Susan47, posted by gardenergirl on March 19, 2005, at 18:26:42

Thanks for the reminder, I'll do that next time I change the bandaid :)

 

Re: Help, Dinah cubic_me

Posted by Dinah on March 20, 2005, at 0:11:06

In reply to Re: Help, Dinah Susan47, posted by cubic_me on March 19, 2005, at 12:55:44

Oh, glad to hear those nerves regenerate. It's really obvious that my fingertip isn't back to normal when I type. But maybe soon.

They did teach me in the urgent care place how to stop the bleeding. You hold the finger well below the cut, down by the base, so long and so hard that it turns cold and pale (or so it seemed to me) and hurts like the dickens. It took much longer than they thought but it did work.

 

Re: Help, Dinah Dinah

Posted by Susan47 on March 20, 2005, at 11:53:15

In reply to Re: Help, Dinah cubic_me, posted by Dinah on March 20, 2005, at 0:11:06

So all the blood in the tip bleeds out? That makes sense I guess. How long do nerves last without a blood supply? Maybe that's why they were damaged so then it would make sense that they would regenerate. Close your eyes and grow those nerves. Do you think that type of thing works? I've heard of women who grow their breasts by meditating. Hmm.

 

Re: Help, Dinah Dinah

Posted by cubic_me on March 20, 2005, at 14:52:25

In reply to Re: Help, Dinah cubic_me, posted by Dinah on March 20, 2005, at 0:11:06


> They did teach me in the urgent care place how to stop the bleeding. You hold the finger well below the cut, down by the base, so long and so hard that it turns cold and pale (or so it seemed to me) and hurts like the dickens. It took much longer than they thought but it did work.

That could be quite dangerous you know. They stopped teaching the British general public to do that about 20 years ago, when people who had been taught to put tornequets on to stem the blood left them on for too long and limbs had to be amputated. Nerves start to die off after about 10mins, so that could well be why they are affected.

Nowadays it it taught to raise the limb to above heart level and apply pressure with a clean cloth/bandage/dressing and keep adding more dressings on top (rather than removing and replacing them) as the blood soaks through.

 

Re: Help, Dinah cubic_me

Posted by Dinah on March 20, 2005, at 15:40:43

In reply to Re: Help, Dinah Dinah, posted by cubic_me on March 20, 2005, at 14:52:25

Good grief. I thought it appeared odd that they did that. It hurt like h*ll and the finger changed to a blueish white. They had wrapped it that way, and I had to unwrap it. Ouch Ouch Ouch.

Sigh. Young doctor too.

 

Re: Useful psychology and psychotherapy books Dinah

Posted by Dinah on May 16, 2005, at 20:18:34

In reply to Useful psychology and psychotherapy books, posted by Dinah on March 17, 2005, at 22:14:56

I ended up not liking "The Dependent Patient: A Practitioner's Guide" as much as I had thought. It got too technical in the end, with too few illustrative stories. I live for those stories.

I also scanned "Somatoform Dissociation" and don't understand one word in three. I think I understood enough to see it doesn't apply to me. :( The perils of shopping at Amazon.

I think I'm going to have to figure out what to do with all those extra books that I don't really think I want to re-read or use as a reference. I was always afraid to give them away for fear they would somehow give away my hobby. But now that I've come clean with my therapist, I suppose it wouldn't be such a fearful thing.

I spent the weekend putting up a five shelf bookshelf in my closet, and added a couple of extra shelves. It still doesn't fit my entire Pych book collection. All of the magazines, a few textbooks, the books on the mind/brain, and a few specialized books are still where they used to be. :( I really do need to do a purge.

I have almost no books on dissociation I like. "The Myth of Sanity" and "The Stranger in the Mirror" are the only two that come to mind.

 

Re: In Session Dinah

Posted by Crackers on May 27, 2006, at 2:25:42

In reply to Re: My favorite books on dissociation, posted by Dinah on September 22, 2004, at 20:24:11

My male psychologist asked me to read "In Session" when I HAD BEEN TRYING, FOR OVER A MONTH, TO DISCUSS WITH HIM THE ISSUE OF TRANSFERENCE AND COUNTER TRANSFERENCE. I read that book 5 times and couldn't believe what I was reading. To me it sounded like each one of these women in the book were being sexually abused by their pyschologists and that it was useful in therapy. I had to take a month off of therapy with him and spoke to several other councellors and male friends to find out their opinion on certain behaviours my therapists displayed. I then booked an appointment with my therapist to ask him why he asked me to read the book. His defence he thought it would be useful. So I told him my opinion of the book. He apologized and suggested we go out for a smoke together. For the duration of that appointment we stared at each other. Next day, I fired my psychologist. I hadn't had one sexual thought or fantasy about my psychologist but my psychologist insisted on physical contact without asking for consent first. He would also have these subconversations about sex, always discuss my sexual tendencies and try to get me to talk to him on a non professional basis.

Hope this is some help and it's not too late.
Alison B.

>An easy subject to start with, because it's a >very short list.
>
> "The Myth of Sanity" by Martha Stout is my very very favorite. This book changed my life. It normalized so many things that scared me before. It is written in a no-nonsense non-sensational manner that is very reassuring. And it talks about milder dissociative experiences that resonate with me. It and "In Session" would be the two books I always want in arms reach.
>
> The other one I like is "The Stranger in the Mirror" by Marlene Steinberg. It is written in a similar straightforward and calm manner and contains some snippets based on Steinberg's dissociative disorder structured clinical interview.
>
> Has anyone read either of these books? If so, what did you think of them? Do you have other dissociative disorders favorites?

 

Re: In Session Crackers

Posted by Dinah on May 27, 2006, at 10:57:52

In reply to Re: In Session Dinah, posted by Crackers on May 27, 2006, at 2:25:42

I'm sorry you had such a bad experience and had a bad reaction to "In Session". My therapist has never stepped a toe out of line, and I'm sure he's not in any way attracted to me. I'm also not at all attracted to him. But I found the book useful in normalizing my strong maternal transference to him, and in discovering what I *didn't* feel for him.

 

Re: In Session

Posted by Crackers on May 27, 2006, at 14:24:31

In reply to Re: In Session Crackers, posted by Dinah on May 27, 2006, at 10:57:52

Threw my experience I learned not to doubt my self anymore. Glad your therapist didn't jump on to the sofa with you and kick off his shoes. I kept blaming myself until my male friends told me that straight up that they knew me well enough to know I wouldn't have provoked the situation.

 

Re: In Session

Posted by susan47 on May 28, 2006, at 0:49:31

In reply to Re: In Session Dinah, posted by Crackers on May 27, 2006, at 2:25:42

Weird, weird behaviour.
People do the strangest things.
Don't they ...
Even psychologists, doctors lawyers indian chiefs the cook the baker the candlestick maker .. teachers ... nurses and clerks, mechanics and yes, even .. gardeners. Everyone is weird, and odd, and a bit off, sometimes and in their own ways.
Oi.

 

Re: In Session Crackers

Posted by susan47 on May 28, 2006, at 1:54:39

In reply to Re: In Session Dinah, posted by Crackers on May 27, 2006, at 2:25:42

P.S., Crackers, you actually didn't say very much to back up your story. What's going on? Is there a thread about your story? It just sounds so weird, this T but it also kind of sounds like maybe you misinterpreted some things, I mean it just doesn't really make a lot of sense. What's the story?

 

Re: In Session

Posted by Crackers on May 28, 2006, at 14:09:16

In reply to Re: In Session Crackers, posted by susan47 on May 28, 2006, at 1:54:39

I have PTSD. Most recent assault was Dec/05 when an intimate boyfriend decided to strangle me while having sex. My therapist and I have been working through making a police report, etc. After making the police report my therapist offered me a hug and I accepted. Then in future visits he started to tell me how beautiful I was. When he read my police report he hinted at how good I must be at sex. During appointments me would stare at me and smile. He continued to offer me hugs and I accepted but started to feel uncomfortable. I then tried to communicate this to him but he avoided the subject. His behavoir then all of a sudden became more professional. He started making comments about how smart I was and I should become a therapist, he suggested that he could be my mentor but mentoring doesn't pay and encouraged me to visit him outside of session. He then gave me "In Session" to read and that's when he joined me on the sofa and kicked off his shoes. Since then I started seeking advice from other therapists and social workers and male friends because I didn't want to believe what I was seeing. I haven't been sexually aroused since Dec/05. I also asked my closest male friends if I provoke the situation and they all said no. What do you think was going on?

 

Re: In Session

Posted by Crackers on May 28, 2006, at 14:20:43

In reply to Re: In Session Crackers, posted by susan47 on May 28, 2006, at 1:54:39

I should also add that since the start of May I began to see a new councellor. Since then my old therapist has invited me to come see him outside of session and he's back to being all friendly again. He also suggests that we have a powerful connection between us.


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