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Posted by Fallen4myT on March 6, 2004, at 19:44:31
In reply to Re: thanks for the heads up, gg, posted by Apperceptor on March 6, 2004, at 19:41:25
Thanks :)
Posted by emmaley on March 6, 2004, at 21:56:28
In reply to Re: thanks for the heads up, gg, posted by Apperceptor on March 6, 2004, at 17:25:35
You know; it doesn't seem to me that you answered my questions, but it seems like you are working through something important and powerful for yourself from reading the other posts. Take gentle care, for you do carry such great responsibilities and for your very precious human self.
Posted by emmaley on March 6, 2004, at 22:22:43
In reply to Re: thanks for the heads up, gg » emmaley, posted by rs on March 6, 2004, at 11:17:28
rs: :) :) :) :) :) Sounds like you have a therapist that you find a good fit for now, how wonderful.
Falls: Thank you for the invitation. :) :) :) Time and energy are hard to manage these days between full-time school, trying to make a living, seeing clients, and, of course, the most challenging one for me--taking care of myself. I am fond of this community, and will try to do my best.
Dinah: :) :) :) :) :) I respect what you have to say lot. So very honest.
Fallen, glad that you seemed to have worked some things out with this one. So sorry for you feel distressed, at least at one point.... :( Thank you for your reply to me.
Posted by emmaley on March 6, 2004, at 22:25:48
In reply to Re: thanks for the heads up, gg » emmaley, posted by gardenergirl on March 6, 2004, at 16:57:28
(How come I always manage to miss a few steps? I meant to include a reply to you in the post below.)
Gardengirl, :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Posted by Fallen4myT on March 6, 2004, at 22:29:18
In reply to Re: thanks for the heads up, gg, posted by emmaley on March 6, 2004, at 22:22:43
Thanks Emmaley I thought I had it fixed but I am not so sure :( time will tell no? :)
hugs
Posted by Apperceptor on March 6, 2004, at 22:33:54
In reply to Re: thanks for the heads up, gg/Emmaley » emmaley, posted by Fallen4myT on March 6, 2004, at 22:29:18
Fallen-
If you feel you've not been able to work through it, I think you've at least demonstrated, from the little I've seen, that you do have a wealth of personal resources.
You know, I would be surprised if there isn't some sort of article, task force, or something that addresses the sort of feelings you have for your therapist in a supportive yet realistic way. I'd be happy to pass anything along if I see it. Have you looked at the APA website?
I should also mention that my earlier references to ethical guidelines are based only on my knowledge of those for clinical and counseling doctoral psychologists. I would imagine they are very similar for other therapy professionals, but I cannot say for sure.
Posted by Fallen4myT on March 6, 2004, at 22:42:39
In reply to Re: thanks for the heads up, gg/Emmaley, posted by Apperceptor on March 6, 2004, at 22:33:54
Thanks Apperceptor, :) thats nice of you but I like how I feel for my T and he is all for it. Tis a long story :) not worth posting. I was more referring to the home front and just my life in general. Like today, my husband is being a jerk and hasn't spoken to me all day and night. I only have him here as a human contact so that and health issues and stuff makes it a really hard day and thats crytic I know but I never post much on me in here.
Posted by tinydancer on March 7, 2004, at 8:21:25
In reply to Re: please be civil » tinydancer » Fallen4myT » obSession, posted by Dr. Bob on March 6, 2004, at 1:40:41
I'm sorry if I violated your policies Dr. Bob. I really tried to be civil and not speak for anyone but myself and put emphasis on my own feelings. But I want to I apologize if anyone felt accused or put down.
> >> Thanks for everyone's efforts to be civil. Practice makes perfect? Please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down.
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> If you have any questions or comments about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ:
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> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
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> or redirect a follow-up to Psycho-Babble Administration.
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> Posting something about your own issues and their possible role in your reaction might be an interesting exercise -- and might help others respond to you supportively.
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> Thanks,
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> Bob
Posted by obSession on March 7, 2004, at 11:40:47
In reply to Re: thanks for the heads up, gg, posted by emmaley on March 6, 2004, at 1:23:44
Thanks for your post Emm , you certainly expressed yourself really well without an undertone which I did ...and couldnt help!
what you said was brilliant and clearly expressed to me a sense of true professionalism , ethics and care.....I see that you have genuine empathy for human suffering....what I want to ask you is ....as someone working in the field , how are you able to deal with other working professionals whose perspectives are not different to yours but rather contradict yours and there views of "helping" is contradictory to the profession?
thanks :)
good to know there are still those out there like you....i agree with you totally that the client needs total freedom to express anything.
and if those thoughts are "I am finding myself wanting a picture of u" so be it because it is the clients frame of referance and should be respected..regardless..thanks :)
Posted by Apperceptor on March 7, 2004, at 14:21:47
In reply to Re: thanks for the heads up, gg » emmaley, posted by obSession on March 7, 2004, at 11:40:47
My view of helping is not contradictory to the profession. For one thing, there are many approaches to therapy. Rational-emotive therapy, for example, is considerably more confrontational than I've been, yet it is widely accepted. Secondly, psychology is not all about therapy. Many psychologists do little to no therapy, with their emphasis on research, program planning and evalutation, and intellectual/personality/neuropsychological assessment. I believe less than 15% of graduates of my program go on to do therapy as their primary trade.
You're inferring much more than I feel I said. It is not easy to get into a clinical program, as I'm sure Gardner Girl can attest to. I recently assisted the admissions committee with their decisions, and part of the process is screening for individuals who may have less than ideal motives for entering a psychology program.
Posted by emmaley on March 7, 2004, at 17:40:38
In reply to Re: thanks for the heads up, gg » emmaley, posted by obSession on March 7, 2004, at 11:40:47
Thanks for the kind words, obSession; I appreciate it.
You know, the question that you asked was a really good and tough one. It really depends on the role I play and the duties that come with the roles. In general, I try to fulfill my duties, and I try to stay open and respectful while doing so. Usually things work themselves out, one way or the other.
I hope my answer is addressing what you were asking. Sorry if it seems insufficient. :(
Loving thoughts,
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 7, 2004, at 19:38:27
In reply to Thank you, posted by emmaley on March 6, 2004, at 3:18:37
> Dinah's suggestion of "In Session" was tremendous.
I'd just like to plug the double double quotes feature at this site:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#amazon
The first time anyone refers to a book without using this option, I post this to try to make sure he or she at least knows about it. It's just an option, though, and doesn't *have* to be used. If people *choose* not to use it, I'd be interested why not, but I'd like that redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20020918/msgs/7717.html
Thanks!
Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 7, 2004, at 19:57:11
In reply to Re: please be civil/ SORRY CORRECTED, posted by Fallen4myT on March 6, 2004, at 19:10:33
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 7, 2004, at 19:57:31
In reply to Re: please be civil » Dr. Bob, posted by tinydancer on March 7, 2004, at 8:21:25
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 7, 2004, at 20:02:12
In reply to Re: Do you have a picture of your T? » Apperceptor, posted by confetti on March 6, 2004, at 16:28:05
> I don't believe your post was the "inappropriate" part of this thread.
I'm afraid the above could lead others to feel their posts were inappropriate.
If you have any questions or comments about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
or redirect a follow-up to Psycho-Babble Administration.
Posting something about your own issues and their possible role in your reaction might be an interesting exercise -- and might help others respond to you supportively.
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 7, 2004, at 20:05:02
In reply to Re: thanks for the heads up, gg » Fallen4myT, posted by Apperceptor on March 6, 2004, at 18:34:17
> "The arrow shot by another's bow is only barbed by our own thoughts."
How about no arrows here, even if unbarbed? :-)
Bob
Posted by Apperceptor on March 7, 2004, at 21:19:17
In reply to Re: arrows, posted by Dr. Bob on March 7, 2004, at 20:05:02
I'm sorry, yes, I agree.
The main reason I shared that statement is because it's been of great help in my own experience...in everyday life, where we don't have a Dr. Bob to moderate our responses.
It's from Sunday School, by the way...I guess that wasn't all nonsense :-)
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 8, 2004, at 18:29:21
In reply to Re: arrows » Dr. Bob, posted by Apperceptor on March 7, 2004, at 21:19:17
> > "The arrow shot by another's bow is only barbed by our own thoughts."
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> The main reason I shared that statement is because it's been of great help in my own experience...in everyday lifeI can see that, but it may be less effective coming from the archer. :-)
Bob
Posted by obSession on March 10, 2004, at 18:11:26
In reply to Re: thanks for the heads up, gg » obSession, posted by emmaley on March 7, 2004, at 17:40:38
thanks for the message emm :)
yes it does answer your question...thanks :)
Posted by lonelygirl on March 20, 2004, at 11:14:11
In reply to Do you have a picture of your T?, posted by tinydancer on March 2, 2004, at 12:30:37
Wowwwww... I am so jealous of those of you who have pics -- and especially Pegasus (your video sounds so sweet!!!). I have searched and searched for a picture of mine, with no luck :( His bio is on the school's web site (he is at my school's student health center), but they don't have any pics, and he doesn't advertise. I would definitely not be comfortable about asking him for a pic, though I want one so badly.
I do have a small collection of things he wrote on, including some appointment slips where he wrote down the date and time of my appointment, and his name (I have one that says "Dr. [lastname]," one that just says "[lastname]," and one that just says "[firstname]," in chronological order). When I went for the initial consultation (before I knew that I would be continuing with him specifically), he was not yet licensed, and we both had to sign a statement about him working under the supervision of a licensed psychologist. So, I have his signature (which is soooo messy that one would never be able to figure out his name if it wasn't also typed). Also, at that time, he did not have his own business cards. He had cards from the health center (with their phone number, URL, etc.) with a blank spot where he had to write in his own name. I have noticed that he now has his own business cards with his name printed on them, so I guess mine is a "limited edition" :).
P.S. I have actually read every post in this entire thread, but I guess the issue has pretty much been beaten to death; I don't even know if anyone is still reading it at all... Oddly enough, I found Apperceptor's post somewhat helpful (though of course a bit offensive). I think it was sort of like a reality check for me. For some reason, in a way I am comforted/relieved by this kind of statement of brutal honesty, even if it may sting.
Posted by Fallen4myT on March 20, 2004, at 21:18:46
In reply to Re: Do you have a picture of your T?, posted by lonelygirl on March 20, 2004, at 11:14:11
Lol I bet if you try hard enough you can find a picture, Try newpapers too OLD ones....and also try more than Google..even the school site...old yearbooks... Its nice to have one and fun.,.,
Posted by lonelygirl on March 20, 2004, at 21:38:41
In reply to Re: Do you have a picture of your T? » lonelygirl, posted by Fallen4myT on March 20, 2004, at 21:18:46
I'm not sure about that... I have tried the school's web site and they don't have photos of the psychologists... What kind of old newspapers? I don't think he has ever advertised, because he just got his Ph.D. in 2003 and has been working at the student health center all along (they bring in enough people that he would not have to advertise himself). And what do you mean, old yearbooks? I think he went to high school in a different state and I don't know hoe I could get ahold of a yearbook (even if I could figure out where he went to school) without, well, stalking him... Have any suggestions? I would love to have a picture of him.
Oh yeah, and I forgot to mention before: I have 2 messages from him on my answering machine.
Posted by Fallen4myT on March 20, 2004, at 21:57:06
In reply to Re: Do you have a picture of your T? » Fallen4myT, posted by lonelygirl on March 20, 2004, at 21:38:41
Marriages and births wow many things are public record..and you can try to get the info and see if any pics...he may not have had ads BUT he may have been in the newspaper for graduating and or working on that building ...sooo many things :) I do not know his age but if he has grown kids they may be in the paper for some reason and sometimes the parents get a mention and pics with the kids....you need to look in the old news archives...look with and without the DOCTOR deal....I could write a lot on this but you can find a pic just have to work at it. I have even had my pic and name in the paper so he has to have been also. Maybe donations he has made to charity...You can go down or call the paper where he lives or grew up and ask to do a search..sometimes it can be done on the web...You may want to casually ask him someday if he grew up in the area..Heck I even know where my T;s parents are and HE told me :)
Posted by lonelygirl on March 20, 2004, at 22:10:15
In reply to Re: Do you have a picture of your T? » lonelygirl, posted by Fallen4myT on March 20, 2004, at 21:57:06
Thanks for the suggestions... Where do you go to get marriage records? He may have been married in a different state. He is in his late 20s and I am pretty sure he doesn't have any children. I doubt he has made any big donations to charity, because he might even still be in debt from school (I found out how much the school pays for its post-doctoral residents, which he was last year, and it's $26,000). He got his Ph.D. in 2003, and I found his NAME in a few places for it, but no pic. I also found his name for getting his license, but no pic :(
I think I know where he grew up (in a different state), and I have even found what may be an old address of his in that area (but it's hard to say, because as I've found from googling, there are other people with his same name -- and I have searched every possible permutation of his name, too).
I don't want to do anything that would cross over into stalking... I do want a picture of him, but not badly enough to do something that he could find out about. I don't want to freak him out or anything.
Posted by Fallen4myT on March 20, 2004, at 22:19:09
In reply to Re: Do you have a picture of your T? » Fallen4myT, posted by lonelygirl on March 20, 2004, at 22:10:15
Youre welcome.,,,no we dont want him to know or freak but you can slyly ask him if he lives around the school...you know where he got his degree...so you want to get to those newspapers and see IF he was married...trust me you can do this and can do it no name given and most likely in person. ONCE I didnt like this girl and wanted to know if she owned the place she lived at so i went to the county building and researched the house....taxes are public record too as is real estate
> Thanks for the suggestions... Where do you go to get marriage records? He may have been married in a different state. He is in his late 20s and I am pretty sure he doesn't have any children. I doubt he has made any big donations to charity, because he might even still be in debt from school (I found out how much the school pays for its post-doctoral residents, which he was last year, and it's $26,000). He got his Ph.D. in 2003, and I found his NAME in a few places for it, but no pic. I also found his name for getting his license, but no pic :(
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> I think I know where he grew up (in a different state), and I have even found what may be an old address of his in that area (but it's hard to say, because as I've found from googling, there are other people with his same name -- and I have searched every possible permutation of his name, too).
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> I don't want to do anything that would cross over into stalking... I do want a picture of him, but not badly enough to do something that he could find out about. I don't want to freak him out or anything.
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