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Re: I'm Upset pegasus

Posted by gardenergirl on February 10, 2004, at 17:13:00

In reply to Re: I'm Upset, posted by pegasus on February 10, 2004, at 11:31:54

What a great safe place! Sounds like somewhere I would like to visit. I also like the idea of knowing that loved ones are nearby but not right in your way. I SO need my time alone.

Take care,

gg

 

Re: safe spaces Penny

Posted by DaisyM on February 10, 2004, at 17:26:10

In reply to Re: safe spaces DaisyM, posted by Penny on February 10, 2004, at 12:27:12

I hope you get this someday and I believe you will. I can totally picture it! Add a little rain on the roof sometimes and hot chocolate...yeah, that would be great.
:)

 

Thanks for the support everyone! (nm)

Posted by Elle2021 on February 10, 2004, at 22:11:17

In reply to Re: safe spaces Penny, posted by DaisyM on February 10, 2004, at 17:26:10

 

Re: I'm Upset DaisyM

Posted by Elle2021 on February 10, 2004, at 22:15:42

In reply to Re: I'm Upset Elle2021, posted by DaisyM on February 10, 2004, at 10:10:39

> Can I steal part of this?

Of course you can! :)

> It is supposed to be 72 degrees today and sunny. I am so glad! Maybe I should play hooky...

72 degrees!! You are so fortunate. It's so cold here, about 32 degrees F. Hopefully it will warm up soon, spring is almost here (or at least I keep telling myself that!).

One of the answers to your q's.
My favorite joke...I can't remember who the quote is by, I guess it's more of a funny quote. Goes something like this:

"I was walking past a house one evening, and I saw a man hammering on a roof. He looked at me and told me I was crazy...in Morse code."

Elle

 

Re: I'm Upset

Posted by DaisyM on February 10, 2004, at 22:36:47

In reply to Re: I'm Upset DaisyM, posted by Elle2021 on February 10, 2004, at 22:15:42

Love the joke! I'm gonna use it on my kids.
How are you doing tonight?

 

Re: I'm Upset DaisyM

Posted by Elle2021 on February 12, 2004, at 1:05:13

In reply to Re: I'm Upset, posted by DaisyM on February 10, 2004, at 22:36:47

> How are you doing tonight?

Not too bad. I went to the doctor (a regular one) yesterday. I found out I have the beginnings of an upper respitory infection. Ew! I don't like being sick. But, she gave me a bottle of cough syrup with Codeine, so I can't complain. :) Hehe, jk. I'm feeling better about school and my mother. I guess it just really hurt my feelings, but I'm over it now. She doesn't understand and probably won't unless (God forbid) she experiences it. I wouldn't wish that on anyone. Maybe I could leave some literature around so she can read it. Hmm... So whats your favorite joke?
Elle

 

My favorite joke Elle2021

Posted by DaisyM on February 12, 2004, at 10:48:59

In reply to Re: I'm Upset DaisyM, posted by Elle2021 on February 12, 2004, at 1:05:13

What did the fish say when he ran into a solid rock?

...Damn!

:)

I'm also big on elephant jokes as I collect them. I have over 100 in my office.

 

I've Been Cut Off...

Posted by Elle2021 on February 12, 2004, at 15:58:10

In reply to My favorite joke Elle2021, posted by DaisyM on February 12, 2004, at 10:48:59

I have an appointment with my therapist tomorrow. I told my mother about this and she decided suddenly that she, "Can't afford to pay for my therapy anymore." This, after an argument a week ago over her paranoid delusion that I only badmouth her during all my therapy sessions. I don't know what to do. She doesn't understand how badly I need to see my therapist. I'm almost afraid to ask if things can get any worse, but with my depression and insomnia, I think there about to. No, I'm not talking about suicide. I'm talking about losing all the progress I felt like I was making. I felt like I was making a lot of headway, and now once again it's hindered. I just don't know what to do anymore or how to deal with any of this.
Elle

 

Re: I've Been Cut Off... Elle2021

Posted by Dinah on February 12, 2004, at 17:03:06

In reply to I've Been Cut Off..., posted by Elle2021 on February 12, 2004, at 15:58:10

I'm so sorry about that, Elle. Maybe she'll change her mind. Does your mother often make sudden decisions? If she does, does she often change them? Maybe your therapist could talk to her? Or your pdoc?

Do you have any counseling options through school, or places that work on a sliding scale? I know it's not the same thing as having your own therapist, but maybe it could help some, at least.

I really do empathize. I had to throw myself on my husband's mercy this morning because I have far overrun my therapy budget this month. And am far under my work (and thus income) budget. My husband was great, but it's horrid to have to try to explain to someone just how badly you're feeling in order to justify the cost to them. :(

 

Re: I've Been Cut Off...

Posted by pegasus on February 12, 2004, at 18:45:58

In reply to Re: I've Been Cut Off... Elle2021, posted by Dinah on February 12, 2004, at 17:03:06

Oh no! Elle, I hope she'll change her mind. I agree that it might be a good idea to look into other therapy options. Also, if you've been with your T for a while, maybe (s)he'll agree to reduce your rates for a couple of weeks until you can figure out what's going on? I also liked the idea of your T or pdoc talking to your mom. If you can handle that idea. I know I wouldn't want mine talking to my mom, but then I'm in my late 30s and haven't depended on my mom for much in the last 20 years.

I'm not sure exactly what your situation is, but it sounds like you don't have insurance. If you can give a few details, maybe we can help you brainstorm about options. Also, maybe your T can help come up with ideas.

- p

 

Dinah Pegasus

Posted by Elle2021 on February 12, 2004, at 18:57:02

In reply to Re: I've Been Cut Off..., posted by pegasus on February 12, 2004, at 18:45:58

Hi guys, thanks for responding. I've been really sick for the past two days, and I feel even worse now. I'm gonna take a break from posting until I feel better. I have a fever and what seems to be a developing upper respitory infection. ugh. Thanks for the support, I'll be back when I feel better.
Elle

 

Re: Take care of yourself. Think liquids. (nm) Elle2021

Posted by Dinah on February 12, 2004, at 21:10:13

In reply to Dinah Pegasus, posted by Elle2021 on February 12, 2004, at 18:57:02

 

Re: I've Been Cut Off... Elle2021

Posted by All Done on February 13, 2004, at 0:23:43

In reply to I've Been Cut Off..., posted by Elle2021 on February 12, 2004, at 15:58:10

I'm sorry you're going through such a tough time, Elle. (Right now I'm really wishing we were back in the beauty pageant days. It wasn't that long ago, but we all seemed to be doing a little better then.)

Get yourself physically well first and then you'll be stronger to tackle the stuff with your mom. Hopefully, things will settle down a bit with some time, too.

My favorite things to get better:

magazines
the couch (with plenty of pillows and blankets)
milkshakes (I don't know why - I think it's a result of lots of childhood sore throats)
Nyquil and naps (these two go hand in hand, I suppose)

Do whatever works to make yourself feel better.

Get well soon,
All Done

 

((Elle))Chicken soup, lots of tissue, jello, PBJ (nm)

Posted by gardenergirl on February 13, 2004, at 7:30:09

In reply to Re: I've Been Cut Off... Elle2021, posted by All Done on February 13, 2004, at 0:23:43

 

My rant and update

Posted by Elle2021 on February 14, 2004, at 2:09:34

In reply to ((Elle))Chicken soup, lots of tissue, jello, PBJ (nm), posted by gardenergirl on February 13, 2004, at 7:30:09

I'm still sick. Today was probably the worst of it, so I know (hope and pray) that the next few days will be spent recovering. I think I've just about coughed my lungs up. :) My nose hurts too! All dry from blowing it too often.

I had another arugemnt with my mother today over my therapy visits. She agreed to pay for one session a month. I hate to sound ungrateful, but that is still not enough. I guess it's better than nothing though. Still makes me sad.

I'm depressed over my depression. Especially over the fact that I have tried a variety of medications (SSRI's, trycilics, anti-psy, benzos, etc), and nothing helps. I've been like this for six years. Does anyone know if Dysthmia ever cures itself? It upsets me that even when good things happen, I still don't feel happy. It makes me feel like I'm ungrateful and undeserving altogether, and I really hate feeling that way.

I'm irritated with myself because I'm attracted to not-so-healthy guys. If there's a bad one in the bunch, I'll go straight for him... ugh. But before that, before I even say one word to him, I will idealize him in my head until I have myself believing he is close to perfect. And that is just setting myself up for disappointment, but I do it constantly.

Anyway, thanks for reading. Any advice, support is welcome...
Elle

 

Re: My rant and update

Posted by Crooked Heart on February 14, 2004, at 5:08:39

In reply to My rant and update, posted by Elle2021 on February 14, 2004, at 2:09:34

Hi Elle, I hope you're over the worst of it too. Is your mother OK about physical illnesses and if so, might she help you with getting better with this one?

Like you say, once a month is better than nothing but not nearly enough. So it's maybe still worth using some of the ideas that people have suggested?

I am truly sorry that you are feeling so bad about yourself. Wish I could wave a magic wand for you, but I can't. So just to tell you that you are loved and cared about here.

 

Elle, my soul sister.. Elle2021

Posted by Karen_kay on February 14, 2004, at 14:32:04

In reply to My rant and update, posted by Elle2021 on February 14, 2004, at 2:09:34

((((Elle))))

Happy Valentine's Day.

I wish you weren't still sick, so I could come get you and we could spend a miserable evening together at some overpriced restaraunt with a snooty waiter and poor service, eating overpriced food and drinking watered-down cocktails.....

How would that sound? Appealing??? It's the thought that counts, I suppose..

Do you think your mom will change her mind? Maybe after just a few weeks, or even a few months, she'll change her mind. You may have to do some major butt-kissing, but it may just happen. I'm sure you know how to play her, try you best to do it. I know it sucks, but if you want to get what you want and need, sometimes you have to play people to get it. That's what I do. Maybe it's not "nice" but it seems to be effective in my case. Just a suggestion.

Also, if you don't want to do that, maybe you can get therapy through your university? Is that an option? I go to a small school and that's where I started. And I requested a male therapist and a "real" therapist, not a student. You can do that, you know... Maybe something to look into if your mom won't change her mind.

I'm SO sorry your mom is acting like this. Is it just because you got into a fight? Maybe once the smoke clears, she'll change her mind...

I'm here for you babe. I've tried to stay out of stuff for a while, due to my own crap. But, I'm managing to "kepp things together" HA!

Get some sleep. Hum lots of tunes. Watch TV when you can't sleep, I like Discovery channel personally. And Law and Order!!! Drink juice, baby. And brush your hair. It helps when you're sick. (And yes, even I do it!) I miss you babe. Take good care of my baby, OK? And eat soup, it helps with the flu. 7-Up and saltines. Go to the Dr. if you aren't feeling better by Monday. I mean business!!! Don't want you to be like me and develope something else more serious because you push yourself too much! Take care hun, I mean it, OK!!!

 

Oh @$#%$$% Karen_kay

Posted by Karen_kay on February 14, 2004, at 15:28:23

In reply to Elle, my soul sister.. Elle2021, posted by Karen_kay on February 14, 2004, at 14:32:04

Guys, should I take a break for a while???? I feel I'm saying really stupid things without thinking and then I leave and start cleaning my house or showering and realize, "Oh #%^%$^, I said something really stupid." Now, I'm not feeling well right now. Actually, I'm feeling really great. But..... I'll even point out my blunder...

<<And I requested a male therapist and a "real" therapist, not a student

***When I said "real" therapist, I meant that I preferred someone with experience... Now, considering who I see now, how stupid is that??? But, also at the time, in the university office, I went to high school with a student therapist and I didn't want to runthe risk of seeing her... OMG!!!

I honestly feel like 2/3 of my posts now are retractions and apologies for things I said in previous posts.... Am I making too much out of things or am I just saying stupid things? What is going on???? Some honest advice...

***And to those who are studying to become therapists.... I would try to apologize for what I said, but it would turn into aobut 30 posts apologizing for the previous apology. If you don't believe me, check out all of the apology posts I'e sent to Phil. Dinah, oculd you do my a favor and submit a link if anyone's interested.... See, I don't even know what the hell I'm talking aobut anymore... But, to those who are studying to be therapist's, most people odn't honestly feel this way. It was jsut that I didn't want ot run the risk of seeing htis particular girl. And I'm sorry if I've offended you. And I really, honestly, truly mean that.

So, am I jsut being stupid? Should I just take a posting break for a while? I need some honest answers... Because I can't honestly answer this question myself... Please tell me the truth.... Dinah, can you hear me??? And don't tell me to see my Pdoc, I already did.. I just want to know if I should take a break for a while, or if I'm jsut exagerating things... Cmon, give it to me... Calling Racer ( I know you'll tell me the truth!!!:)), Dinah, Daisy, gg, everyone!!!!!!!!!

 

Re: Oh @$#%$$% Karen_kay

Posted by gardenergirl on February 14, 2004, at 15:34:23

In reply to Oh @$#%$$% Karen_kay, posted by Karen_kay on February 14, 2004, at 15:28:23

KK,
You did not offend me, and your posts do not seem stupid, just ramped up. I understand why you requested a licensed therapist. Everyone has that right.

I don't get hypomanic, but I do sometimes get "chatty" according to my husband. I'm sure if I post when I am chatty it might look similar.

No harm, no foul. Don't go away unless you feel you need to. I would miss you.

Take care of yourself and see my post on the meds board!

gg

 

Re: Oh @$#%$$% gardenergirl

Posted by Karen_kay on February 14, 2004, at 15:43:04

In reply to Re: Oh @$#%$$% Karen_kay, posted by gardenergirl on February 14, 2004, at 15:34:23

Thank you sweetie. I really would be heartbroken if I had offended you. Honestly. I know that you are going to be a great therapist. And you already are such a great therapist, even if you aren't licensed (are you, I don't think so, but I'm not sure??)

I really needed to hear what you said....I had you in mind when I posted that second one. When you are licensed, will you email me, so I can be a client??? But, will you pretend ot be a man? :) I'm very proud of you, you know...

 

Re: Elle, my soul sister.. Karen_kay

Posted by Elle2021 on February 14, 2004, at 19:05:12

In reply to Elle, my soul sister.. Elle2021, posted by Karen_kay on February 14, 2004, at 14:32:04

Karen,

First of all, unless you feel like you need a break from posting, then I think you are fine to continue. I'm studying to be a therapist, and I didn't find a single thing you said offensive. I wouldn't want a therapist that wasn't licensed. I can't blame anyone else for wanting a licensed one either! I almost applied for a counseling position working with social services, and I realized that even though I fit the qualifications, I felt really inexperienced. Thats because I am inexperienced... I guess the problem with poverty, is that when you're poor, you're at the mercy of everyone else pretty much. Which really isn't fair at all.

>I wish you weren't still sick.....

Well that makes two of us! I guess I'm going to have two days of "the worst part of it." I have a feeling tomorrow will be better.

> Do you think your mom will change her mind?

I'm not sure. It's hard to say. I am thinking of having my therapist call her and talk to her about what's going on. I just don't want my T to tell her anything that will require an explanation on my part. My mother has a habit of asking way too many questions. And, I of course, will not want to answer them. So, my T can't tell her about my cutting, or about my dx's, except the Dysthmia, OCD, and panic. Those I'm okay with. But, would those be convincing enough to persuade her into letting me continue once a week? I don't know. It's worth a try.

> Also, if you don't want to do that, maybe you can get therapy through your university? Is that an option?

I thought about that, but when I looked and saw who the "qualified" people assigned to this job were, I didn't feel comfortable with any of them.

> Get some sleep. Hum lots of tunes. Watch TV when you can't sleep, I like Discovery channel personally.

I love the Discovery Channel! Especially when it has stuff on about New Zealand and giant squids. Hehe... :)

>Drink juice, baby.

I bought some stuff at the store I thought was really healthy. Turns out I didn't read the label well enough and it's just blue food coloring, raspberry flavoring, TONS of sugar, and water. But it is water...so that has to count for something. Aside from that, it tastes good and it's healthier for me than Pepsi! :)

>And brush your hair. It helps when you're sick. (And yes, even I do it!)

Want to know something? I haven't showered in 3 days. Yes, that's right, 3! I have felt so nasty and awful these past few days that I just couldn't convince myself to stand around in water for that long. But, I am washing my towels as I write this, so I am GOING to take one today whether I feel like it or not.

>I miss you babe.
I miss you too!!

Hope to hear from you soon if you feel like writing!
Elle

 

Re: My rant and update Crooked Heart

Posted by Elle2021 on February 14, 2004, at 19:06:48

In reply to Re: My rant and update, posted by Crooked Heart on February 14, 2004, at 5:08:39

Hi,
I wish I had a magic wand too! :) Thanks for the kind words, they helped out a lot. I'm feeling better already. It's really comforting to have someone reassure you things are going to get better. Thank you.
Elle

 

Re: I can hear you Karen_kay

Posted by Dinah on February 14, 2004, at 19:07:10

In reply to Oh @$#%$$% Karen_kay, posted by Karen_kay on February 14, 2004, at 15:28:23

Of course you don't have to stop posting. :) If we all stopped posting when we said something we wished we hadn't, the board would be empty, or else we'd be spending so much time poring over each of our posts looking for any way we might possibly have offended someone that our dishes wouldn't get washed, our work or studies would be undone, and we wouldn't get any sleep.

Besides, if there's anyplace where the people around you understand a bit of hypomania, it's here. :)

Keep posting, but take care of yourself too.

 

Besides, I'd miss you! (nm) Karen_kay

Posted by Dinah on February 14, 2004, at 19:09:25

In reply to Oh @$#%$$% Karen_kay, posted by Karen_kay on February 14, 2004, at 15:28:23

 

Re: Oh @$#%$$% Karen_kay

Posted by All Done on February 15, 2004, at 1:31:19

In reply to Oh @$#%$$% Karen_kay, posted by Karen_kay on February 14, 2004, at 15:28:23

Karen,

I just took a self-imposed break and, in retrospect, I realize it was probably the time I needed you guys the most. Obviously, you need to do what is best for you, but just remember you don't need to be "on" all of the time with us. You've been here for so many people (including me) so many times. Let us be here for you.

I hope your doing okay. If you need anything...

All Done


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