Psycho-Babble Health Thread 692326

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Cola 'is bad' for women's bones

Posted by Meri-Tuuli on October 6, 2006, at 6:17:14

Cola 'is bad' for women's bones, from the BBC news website....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/5410476.stm

Pretty interesting. And the study showed that all it took was 4 cans of cola a week....not much!

I personally never drink cola, I'm glad to say. Although i do drink fizzy water, which might be just as bad......

kind regarsd

Meri

 

Re: Cola 'is bad' for women's bones

Posted by alexandra_k on October 6, 2006, at 18:02:08

In reply to Cola 'is bad' for women's bones, posted by Meri-Tuuli on October 6, 2006, at 6:17:14

I wonder if it is regular cola or diet?

I've heard the artificial sweeteners have this unfortunate habit of increasing risk of cancer...

I wonder if drinking cola vs not drinking cola is correlated with anything else... I wonder if people who drink cola tend to get less exercise and eat worse than people who don't? Can be hard to control for all factors of diet and exercise...

I don't know.

 

Re: Cola 'is bad' for women's bones

Posted by Declan on October 6, 2006, at 19:52:39

In reply to Re: Cola 'is bad' for women's bones, posted by alexandra_k on October 6, 2006, at 18:02:08

I don't want to be uncivil about coca cola. Anyway my family had shares. I try to be tolerant. The Indians had the right idea. They simply banned it and rebranded it as Campa Cola in 1970 something.

 

Re: Cola 'is bad' for women's bones » alexandra_k

Posted by Meri-Tuuli on October 7, 2006, at 3:06:29

In reply to Re: Cola 'is bad' for women's bones, posted by alexandra_k on October 6, 2006, at 18:02:08

Hello

> I wonder if it is regular cola or diet?

Well, I'm not sure but the ingrediant what is causing all the problems is phosphoric acid - so check out the label on the diet or reg coke.

> I've heard the artificial sweeteners have this unfortunate habit of increasing risk of cancer...

Yes, they really do. I completely avoid all artificial sweetners. Which isn't really that hard to do.

> I wonder if drinking cola vs not drinking cola is correlated with anything else... I wonder if people who drink cola tend to get less exercise and eat worse than people who don't? Can be hard to control for all factors of diet and exercise...

Yes, could be. But usually most studies published in reputable journals have things like this controlled - they are very tight about the different controls etc.

And whats worrying is that some people literally drink several litres of cola a day!

Anyway.

Kind regards

Meri

 

Re: Cola 'is bad' for women's bones » Declan

Posted by Meri-Tuuli on October 7, 2006, at 3:12:35

In reply to Re: Cola 'is bad' for women's bones, posted by Declan on October 6, 2006, at 19:52:39

> I don't want to be uncivil about coca cola.

LOL! I wonder if you can get blocked over uncilivality towards an oject?

I didn't know cola was banned in India....?

Well that certainly is a good idea - I think it should be banned from children. LOL! Anyway its cool here in Finland - children at primary school can only drink milk or water. Amazing!!

Kind regards

Meri

 

Re: Cola 'is bad' for women's bones » Declan

Posted by Declan on October 7, 2006, at 14:58:14

In reply to Re: Cola 'is bad' for women's bones, posted by Declan on October 6, 2006, at 19:52:39

I think they probably allowed it under its normal name when they decided to integrate their economy into the worlds'.
But it was Campa Cola in the 70s, along with great signs like 'work more, talk less' at the airport.

 

Maybe I should take up coffee

Posted by Dinah on October 8, 2006, at 11:59:39

In reply to Re: Cola 'is bad' for women's bones » Declan, posted by Declan on October 7, 2006, at 14:58:14

It tastes icky to me, but I understand it delivers a far greater caffeine kick than diet coke anyway.

 

Re: Maybe I should take up coffee » Dinah

Posted by Jost on October 9, 2006, at 5:08:59

In reply to Maybe I should take up coffee, posted by Dinah on October 8, 2006, at 11:59:39

Yeah, depending on the type of coffee-- instant has less, but brewed coffee can have more, and more yet, depending on the coffee, and strength.

Plus it has anti-oxidants, and is almost as good as green tea.

With milk and sweetener (sucralose doens't have any known bad effects, I think) it's not half bad.

Jost

 

Re: Maybe I should take up coffee » Dinah

Posted by ClearSkies on October 9, 2006, at 8:29:09

In reply to Maybe I should take up coffee, posted by Dinah on October 8, 2006, at 11:59:39

Some teas have more caffeine than others, I believe. Yerba Mate ("matay"), for one. And I think someone markets plain old water with caffeine. I think I'd prefer to drink something I like, though.

 

Re: Maybe I should take up coffee

Posted by Dinah on October 10, 2006, at 11:53:32

In reply to Re: Maybe I should take up coffee » Dinah, posted by ClearSkies on October 9, 2006, at 8:29:09

I don't much like the taste of coffee, or tea. But I need to injest that caffeine somehow. :)

 

Re: Maybe I should take up coffee

Posted by dreamboat_annie on October 10, 2006, at 18:25:43

In reply to Maybe I should take up coffee, posted by Dinah on October 8, 2006, at 11:59:39

Lately, I have been having a paradoxical reaction to coffee. It is making me sleepy. I get have way through a cup and my eyes are rolling back in my head and I feel like I have just taken a triple dose of Xanax. Weird!!!

Have you ever tried Yerba Mate? It is, apparently, more stimulating than coffee, without the caffeine jitters. It, too, apparently, tastes icky, but a bit of honey or stevia could fix that.

> It tastes icky to me, but I understand it delivers a far greater caffeine kick than diet coke anyway.

 

Above post for Dinah (nm)

Posted by dreamboat_annie on October 10, 2006, at 18:26:55

In reply to Re: Maybe I should take up coffee, posted by dreamboat_annie on October 10, 2006, at 18:25:43

 

Coca Cola

Posted by Declan on October 11, 2006, at 7:28:25

In reply to Re: Maybe I should take up coffee, posted by dreamboat_annie on October 10, 2006, at 18:25:43

Yerba mate is nice in a slightly grassy kind of way.

I heard today that the Coca Cola company through its beveridges, bottled water and, for all I know, privatised utilities sells liquids constituting 10% of the total human intake. (Note health implications of coke itself, all the plastic bottles, and the appropriation of public resources.) They are aiming for 20%. (Who cares? There's way too many people anyway. I'm determined to look on the bright side.)

 

Thats alot! » Declan

Posted by Meri-Tuuli on October 11, 2006, at 12:25:19

In reply to Coca Cola, posted by Declan on October 11, 2006, at 7:28:25

I make a point of never buying coke products - well I never drink coke anyway....but they have bought up alot of the smaller bottled water companies and things...and cleverly don't really advertise the fact that they're coke, unless you look really carefully at the label...

M

 

Re: Thats alot! » Meri-Tuuli

Posted by Declan on October 11, 2006, at 16:17:03

In reply to Thats alot! » Declan, posted by Meri-Tuuli on October 11, 2006, at 12:25:19

That 10% must include privatised (not only 3rd world) water on the orders of the World Bank/IMF.

 

Re: Thats alot! » Declan

Posted by Meri-Tuuli on October 11, 2006, at 16:26:26

In reply to Re: Thats alot! » Meri-Tuuli, posted by Declan on October 11, 2006, at 16:17:03

Thats interesting....so the IMF/world bank ordered the privatisation of water? What? How on earth can they do that? Well they say the next world war will be over water......although at this rate, it'll be over oil.... (shudders)

Incidentally, I want to get into the hydrogeology industry, but didn't have the confidence to do a masters in it.... argh confidence! What I'd do to be assertive, and have some confidence in myself...any ideas?

 

Re: Thats alot! » Meri-Tuuli

Posted by Declan on October 11, 2006, at 16:48:21

In reply to Re: Thats alot! » Declan, posted by Meri-Tuuli on October 11, 2006, at 16:26:26

That's globalisation, I suppose. All the rhetoric about breaking down trade and investment barriers in reurn for more loans to 3rd world governments. I assume that's how the Bechtel Corporation ended up owning Bolivian water.

If the air would stay still they'd privatise that too. Maybe that's starting, like bottled water? We have an oxygen clinic here.

I heard in the same program that 40,000 people in Detroit had their water cut off for nonpayment.

 

Re: Thats alot!

Posted by Meri-Tuuli on October 11, 2006, at 16:57:28

In reply to Re: Thats alot! » Meri-Tuuli, posted by Declan on October 11, 2006, at 16:48:21

Hey..
> I heard in the same program that 40,000 people in Detroit had their water cut off for nonpayment.

Good grief, in the UK its actually illegal to cut off water supply.... even if they don't pay.

 

Re: Maybe I should take up coffee » dreamboat_annie

Posted by Dinah on October 12, 2006, at 9:06:49

In reply to Re: Maybe I should take up coffee, posted by dreamboat_annie on October 10, 2006, at 18:25:43

I'll have to look for that.

My exhaustion lately is staggering, and I could use a big injection of caffeine.

 

Re: Coca Cola

Posted by Dinah on October 12, 2006, at 9:10:47

In reply to Coca Cola, posted by Declan on October 11, 2006, at 7:28:25

Is that Coca Cola or Coca Cola Bottling? Last time I heard, and as best I understood, Coca Cola Bottling bottled beverages not owned by the company, for a fee. It was cheaper for the other companies to pay them than to build their own bottling facilities.

But this was many many years ago.

 

Re: Coca Cola » Dinah

Posted by Declan on October 12, 2006, at 12:30:23

In reply to Re: Coca Cola, posted by Dinah on October 12, 2006, at 9:10:47

There is that difference between the Coca Cola Company and the Coca Cola Bottling Company.

I heard it on the radio. Maude Barlowe, a Canadian interested in water, was visiting Australia and was speaking on the ABC. To get anywhare near the 10%, you'd have to be including all the privatised water utilities of the world owned by either of the two?

Is it true, what she said about Detroit? That 40,000 people there had their water cut off as a result of non-payment? I have no idea of the time frame.

The water thing is particularly relevant to Australia. The Government's advisory body tonight predicted the 'collapse' of the Murray Darling basin (this year), the inland river system of the eastern half of Australia. I assume they mean drying up. Irrigation allocations and water pricing are such that huge amounts of rice are grown inland for export. Irrigation really took off after 1960.

Guess who I showed into the station for an interview? David Suzuki. 'We've been expecting you. Come this way.' Very exciting.


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