![[dr. bob]](/dr-bob-sm.gif)
Dr. Bob is Robert Hsiung, MD,
dr-bob@uchicago.eduShown: posts 1 to 3 of 3. This is the beginning of the thread.
Posted by rayww on May 31, 2008, at 20:56:23
I just read some of the latter posts here and enjoyed the thought stimulus.
The tools we need to make discoveries are all around us. 1. we must search for them. 2. we must make correct use of them.
Even drugs and alcohol have a correct use, but can be abused. You would not use a dishwasher to bbq steaks, nor would you use a chainsaw to hammer a nail. You wouldn't wear a pair of boxing gloves to do anything but box.
If you want to know of the reality of a Creator, search until you find the correct tools for finding out, and then use them correctly. Your answer will come spiritually because the tools you use will be spiritual.
Communication is an important spiritual tool. What are spiritual ways of communicating with the divine? Try talking to Him as though He exists, speak to him as you would to a Father. Read scripture personally, like as if God is speaking it directly to you. "What I say to one I say to all" is one scripture that comes to mind. http://scriptures.lds.org/en/mark/13/37#37
Posted by Jay_Bravest_Face on June 23, 2008, at 23:24:41
In reply to Correct use of spiritual tools, posted by rayww on May 31, 2008, at 20:56:23
Martin Luther wrote of the "Theology of the Cross." I refer to understanding Luther's perspective as "taking off the rose coloured glasses". Or, resigning from the "bless-me" clubs. I've studied this a fair bit, and it really brings the "reality" of the Scriptures home. You must remember and empathize deeply with Jesus' suffering, despair, doubt, and injustice before you have the glory, faith, hope, etc. The later are like people who try to use prayer or such as a means to get rich, or be 'glorified', or for something very selfish.
I also don't think you can take Scripture at face value. It's more poetry, verse, song, with an underlying theme of ultimate Grace.
My .02 cents,
Jay
Posted by rayww on July 13, 2008, at 1:03:48
In reply to Re: Correct use of spiritual tools..In context » rayww, posted by Jay_Bravest_Face on June 23, 2008, at 23:24:41
> Martin Luther wrote of the "Theology of the Cross." I refer to understanding Luther's perspective as "taking off the rose coloured glasses". Or, resigning from the "bless-me" clubs. I've studied this a fair bit, and it really brings the "reality" of the Scriptures home. You must remember and empathize deeply with Jesus' suffering, despair, doubt, and injustice before you have the glory, faith, hope, etc. The later are like people who try to use prayer or such as a means to get rich, or be 'glorified', or for something very selfish.
>
> I also don't think you can take Scripture at face value. It's more poetry, verse, song, with an underlying theme of ultimate Grace.
>
> My .02 cents,
> JayI think we may all be surprised at how literal scripture is when we understand the poetry. Scripture is actually its own spiritual tool, and is used to understand life; its purpose and meaning.
This is the end of the thread.
Psycho-Babble Faith | Extras | FAQ
Dr. Bob is Robert Hsiung, MD,
dr-bob@uchicago.edu
Script revised: October 4, 2007
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/cgi-bin/pb/mget.pl
Copyright 2006-08 Robert Hsiung.
Owned and operated by Dr. Bob LLC and not the University of Chicago.