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Lou's response to rayww's post-pkaprt rayww

Posted by Lou Pilder on March 25, 2005, at 9:58:54

In reply to Re: hymns of faith, posted by rayww on March 25, 2005, at 9:00:00

rayww,
You wrote,[...Lou Pil, please allow us to enjoy this thread...].
Are you saying that my request for a determination as to the acceptability or not in relation to the guidlines of the forum of the post in question has something to do with your enjoying the thread? I have asked Dinah to redirect the posts in the thread to the administrative board and it was her post that innitiated my response.
Also, are you meaning that by me requesting clarification from the poster of [...nothing but the blood of Jesus...]that that has something to do with you enjoying the thread? The poster could have responded with the option offered as "none of the above" or , "something different" or one of the other options but has not yet responded to my request for clarification.
You wrote,[...picking it apart...](the Hymn)
It is not my intention to {pick apart}the hymn. The statement, [...{nothing} but the blood of Jesus...wash away sins...]IMO is a statement on a mental -health forum that is questionable here due to the guidlines of the forum and I am requesting from the administration a determination. So far, it is OK by Dinah to continue the thread. The final decision will be made as I undertand it, by Dr. Hsiung who is away for a while.
As far as your inviting me to join in posting hymns that I would like, thanks for the invitation, but I feel that it is more appropriate for these type of discussions about religious music to be done via email or babblemail or on a different board that accommodates music appreciation.
Lou

 

Re: Lou's response to rayww's post-pkaprt Lou Pilder

Posted by rayww on March 25, 2005, at 11:40:15

In reply to Lou's response to rayww's post-pkaprt rayww, posted by Lou Pilder on March 25, 2005, at 9:58:54

Lou, just share a hymn. Is that so hard?

 

Re: Hey ray rayww

Posted by AuntieMel on March 25, 2005, at 13:51:21

In reply to Re: Lou's response to rayww's post-pkaprt Lou Pilder, posted by rayww on March 25, 2005, at 11:40:15

Please - let's keep it calm here. I may have read it wrong, but it sounded a bit like you were baiting.

Please correct me.

 

Re: Hey ray

Posted by rayww on March 25, 2005, at 15:56:57

In reply to Re: Hey ray rayww, posted by AuntieMel on March 25, 2005, at 13:51:21

> Please - let's keep it calm here. I may have read it wrong, but it sounded a bit like you were baiting.
>
> Please correct me.


I'll admit I've been a tad reactive lately, as evidenced on some of the other boards.

Believe it or not, I was trying to calm it down here, and I genuinely do want Lou to share his favorite hymn. I actually really love Israeli music.

Do you have one AntiMel? Especially for Easter?

 

Re: hymns of faith rayww

Posted by rayww on March 25, 2005, at 17:35:16

In reply to hymns of faith, posted by rayww on March 23, 2005, at 10:43:59

> It has been said that if you can't pray, read the words of a hymn. I have been moved by so many hymns. Music forms a conduit to the soul.
>
> Do you have a favorite hymn?

Yes. This week I have two fav hymns, thank-you for asking. The first is "Come Unto Jesus" #125

http://www.lds.org/cm/catalogsearchalpha/1,17929,4782-1-1,00.html

Second: "Reverently and Meekly Now", #185. After it is loaded, select "words and music". This is the only hymn I am aware of where it is written in the first person, as though Jesus is singing to me (and you)

 

Re: hymns of faith

Posted by Mark H. on March 25, 2005, at 18:52:21

In reply to Re: hymns of faith rayww, posted by rayww on March 25, 2005, at 17:35:16

Although I'm a Buddhist, I've always been partial to the Vaughan Williams Easter hymn, "Hail Thee, Festival Day," for its joyous musical complexity and spirit of celebration and renewal.

Without endorsing any of the words of the hymn, or implying that they should apply to anyone at all, here is a link for those interested:

http://www.oremus.org/hymnal/h/h030.html

I wish a warm and happy Easter to all of my Christian friends!

Sincerely,

Mark H.

 

Re: Emmy's favorite Easter song Dinah

Posted by TofuEmmy on March 25, 2005, at 21:52:34

In reply to Re: hymns of faith, posted by Dinah on March 23, 2005, at 17:57:30

Sung to the tune of "I'm a little Teapot"

I'm a little chickie, (crouch down inside your egg) Ready to hatch!
Pecking at my shell (pecking motion)
Scratch, scratch, scratch! (scratching motion)
When I crack it open, Out I'll jump (jump out of shell)
Fluff my feathers, cheap, cheap, cheap!

emmy

 

Re: hymns of faith - not by definition but

Posted by partlycloudy on March 26, 2005, at 6:43:23

In reply to Re: hymns of faith rayww, posted by rayww on March 25, 2005, at 17:35:16

my favourite seasonal music for Easter is Handel's "Messiah". Just wish they would perform it during the correct holiday...

 

Re: hymns of faith - not by definition but

Posted by Buckeye Fan on March 26, 2005, at 7:33:21

In reply to Re: hymns of faith - not by definition but, posted by partlycloudy on March 26, 2005, at 6:43:23

> my favourite seasonal music for Easter is Handel's "Messiah". Just wish they would perform it during the correct holiday...

I agee.
Handel's life is a fascinating study of one who overcane alot of adversity.
At one point in wrting the song he didnt leavehis house for 3 weeks! A friend reports he visited him and often found Handek in tears, sobbing from the sheer emotions he poured into his song~
The "Messiah" (or Hallelujah Chorus as its sometimes called) debut in 1742...yet remains today as one of the most moving and stirring music ever written.

Here is an intersting article about George Fridrick Handel...

http://www.messiahcd.com/Information/about_The_Messiah/about_the_messiah.html

 

Re: hymns of faith - not by definition but

Posted by gardenergirl on March 26, 2005, at 7:49:42

In reply to Re: hymns of faith - not by definition but, posted by Buckeye Fan on March 26, 2005, at 7:33:21

Okay, not being brought up with much effort in any religion....I didn't know there was such a thing as Easter music!!!!

Naive gg

 

Re: hymns of faith - not by definition but

Posted by partlycloudy on March 26, 2005, at 12:45:01

In reply to Re: hymns of faith - not by definition but, posted by partlycloudy on March 26, 2005, at 6:43:23

There isn't, unless you count "Here Comes Peter Cottontail"... I think of Handel's Messiah as Easter music because it does not tell the story of Christmas (when it's always performed) but rather of Easter. it's always struck me funny that such a beautiful and most popular choral piece is played when it is.
pc

 

Re: hymns of faith - not by definition but partlycloudy

Posted by gardenergirl on March 26, 2005, at 15:00:58

In reply to Re: hymns of faith - not by definition but, posted by partlycloudy on March 26, 2005, at 12:45:01

Oh yes, I forgot about Peter. D'oh!

gg

 

I do have a favorite Easter song from Primary

Posted by Dinah on March 26, 2005, at 20:32:26

In reply to Re: hymns of faith - not by definition but partlycloudy, posted by gardenergirl on March 26, 2005, at 15:00:58

Or maybe Sunday School. "Christ is Risen" I don't recall all the words right now, but I'm sure I will on Easter.

Since I don't recall the words right now, I should state that it isn't as a doctrine of faith that I like the song, but more because it's the only religious song for Easter that I know.

 

Re: I do have a favorite Easter song from Primary

Posted by Buckeye Fan on March 26, 2005, at 23:25:25

In reply to I do have a favorite Easter song from Primary, posted by Dinah on March 26, 2005, at 20:32:26

Christ The Lord Is Risen Today

Christ the Lord is risen today, Al - - le lu ia.

Sons of men and angels say: Al - - le lu ia.
raise your joys and triumphs high, Al - - le lu ia.
Sing ye heav'ns, and earth reply, Al - - le lu ia.

Lives again our glorious king: Alleluia.
Where, O death, is now thy sting? Alleluia.
Dying once, He all doth save: Alleluia.
Where thy victory, O grave? Alleluia.

Love's redeeming work is done, Alleluia.
Fought the fight, the battle won, Alleluia.
Death in vain forbids Him rise, Alleluia.
Christ has opened Paradise. Alleluia.

Soar we now, where Christ has led, Alleluia.
Foll'wing our exalted Head; Alleluia.
Made like Him, like Him we rise, Alleluia.


BF

 

Re: I do have a favorite Easter song from Primary

Posted by Dinah on March 27, 2005, at 13:45:08

In reply to Re: I do have a favorite Easter song from Primary, posted by Buckeye Fan on March 26, 2005, at 23:25:25

I remembered that one today!! And yes, it's lovely too. I love the word "Alleluia". It sounds like what it means.

No, this one was a children's song. I have the words somewhere, although I made my son listen to the record (gasp! - dinosaur days) this morning, and the lyric sheet wasn't with it.

My mother will know the words, I'm sure.

"Hear the something ringing, ringing,
Something something something something,
Something something, hearts are singing,
Christ is risen, Christ is risen!
Alleluia, Christ is risen."

That's all I can remember. Bad me. Bad me.

 

I think it's..... Dinah

Posted by messadivoce on March 27, 2005, at 18:00:53

In reply to Re: I do have a favorite Easter song from Primary, posted by Dinah on March 27, 2005, at 13:45:08

Hear the bells ringing, they're singing
Christ is risen from the dead!


Is that the one?? My mom has a CD by a men's singing group called "Glad" who do a great arrangement of this song.

 

Re: I do have a favorite Easter song from Primary Buckeye Fan

Posted by 10derHeart on March 27, 2005, at 22:15:28

In reply to Re: I do have a favorite Easter song from Primary, posted by Buckeye Fan on March 26, 2005, at 23:25:25

I know it's not what Dinah meant, but...

I got to sing this twice today (sunrise and regular service)It was great.

I've loved the song since I was little. My mom died when I was nineteen, and when we sing it now, I can *feel* her, in my heart, but also like she is standing next to me singing when I was little. It's special, 'cause for some reason I can't remember a lot about my mom, and since I was an adult when she died, I should be able to (working on this in therapy :-( )

Anyway, I adore this hymn...

 

Re: hymns of faith - not by definition but Buckeye Fan

Posted by Simus on March 28, 2005, at 0:26:50

In reply to Re: hymns of faith - not by definition but, posted by Buckeye Fan on March 26, 2005, at 7:33:21

> > my favourite seasonal music for Easter is Handel's "Messiah". Just wish they would perform it during the correct holiday...
>
> I agee.
> Handel's life is a fascinating study of one who overcane alot of adversity.
> At one point in wrting the song he didnt leavehis house for 3 weeks! A friend reports he visited him and often found Handek in tears, sobbing from the sheer emotions he poured into his song~
> The "Messiah" (or Hallelujah Chorus as its sometimes called) debut in 1742...yet remains today as one of the most moving and stirring music ever written.
>
> Here is an intersting article about George Fridrick Handel...
>
> http://www.messiahcd.com/Information/about_The_Messiah/about_the_messiah.html


I also agree about Handel's "Messiah." What a magnificent, timeless work it is.

Thanks for sharing the website. I had always wondered about the story behind the writing of "Messiah".

 

Re: hymns of faith - not by definition but

Posted by rayww on March 28, 2005, at 20:43:33

In reply to Re: hymns of faith - not by definition but Buckeye Fan, posted by Simus on March 28, 2005, at 0:26:50

I loved that article about Handel. "Messiah" is a universal work that has done more to unite Christians than any other thing. Music is of the spirit. We all sing many of the same hymns in our services, and I'll bet all have enjoyed a performance of "Messiah".
Thanks again for sharing the link.
rayww

> > > my favourite seasonal music for Easter is Handel's "Messiah". Just wish they would perform it during the correct holiday...
> >
> > I agee.
> > Handel's life is a fascinating study of one who overcane alot of adversity.
> > At one point in wrting the song he didnt leavehis house for 3 weeks! A friend reports he visited him and often found Handek in tears, sobbing from the sheer emotions he poured into his song~
> > The "Messiah" (or Hallelujah Chorus as its sometimes called) debut in 1742...yet remains today as one of the most moving and stirring music ever written.
> >
> > Here is an intersting article about George Fridrick Handel...
> >
> > http://www.messiahcd.com/Information/about_The_Messiah/about_the_messiah.html
>
>
> I also agree about Handel's "Messiah." What a magnificent, timeless work it is.
>
> Thanks for sharing the website. I had always wondered about the story behind the writing of "Messiah".

 

Amazing Grace rayww

Posted by Simus on March 28, 2005, at 23:09:37

In reply to hymns of faith, posted by rayww on March 23, 2005, at 10:43:59

> Do you have a favorite hymn?

"Amazing Grace" is high on my list.

 

We used to sing this one as a prayer

Posted by Dinah on April 2, 2005, at 10:14:48

In reply to hymns of faith, posted by rayww on March 23, 2005, at 10:43:59

My son and I, before bed. I ought to start again.

"Whenever I hear the song of a bird,
Or look at the blue blue sky.
Whenever I feel the rain on my face,
Or the wind as it rushes by.
Whenever I touch a velvet rose,
Or walk by a lilac tree,
I'm glad that I live in this beautiful world
Heavenly father created for me.

He gave me my eyes that I might see
The color of butterfly wings.
He gave me my ears that I might hear
The magical sound of things.
He gave me my mind, my heart, my soul.
I thank him reverently.
For all his creations of which I'm a part.
Yes, I know heavenly father loves me."

We ought to start singing our nightime prayers again.

(I don't know where to attribute that song. It's another Sunday School one.)

 

Re: I do have a favorite Easter song from Primary

Posted by Dinah on April 2, 2005, at 10:25:35

In reply to I do have a favorite Easter song from Primary, posted by Dinah on March 26, 2005, at 20:32:26

"Hear the joy. Bells ringing, ringing,
In the far off towers swinging,
Hear the children's voices singing
Christ is risen, Christ is risen!
Alleluia! Christ is Risen.

Far and near the charms (?) are telling
On each word the sweet voice dwelling
Soft and low, then loudly swelling,
Christ is Risen, Christ is Risen!
Alleluhia! Christ is Risen.

Easter morn is saying, saying,
While it's chimes are softly playing,
And all hearts with joy are praying,
Christ is Risen, Christ is Risen!
Alleluhia! Christ is Risen!

 

Re: We used to sing this one as a prayer Dinah

Posted by rayww on April 3, 2005, at 9:04:30

In reply to We used to sing this one as a prayer, posted by Dinah on April 2, 2005, at 10:14:48

I remember when that song was written. I was in primary then too. It's called, "My Heavenly Father Loves Me". You can find the download of all the primary songs here: words, music, and parts.
http://www.lds.org/cm/display/0,17631,4996-1,00.html

 

Re: hymns of faith rayww

Posted by rayww on April 3, 2005, at 12:18:56

In reply to Re: hymns of faith rayww, posted by rayww on March 25, 2005, at 17:35:16

My most favorite hymn most of the time is "O My Father" because this is a hymn that speaks to both truth and reason. It also is the hymn that was sung at most funerals of those I have loved. I have received much comfort from it. The tune brings enjoyment, the words bring comfort, and the combination brings peace.

> > It has been said that if you can't pray, read the words of a hymn. I have been moved by so many hymns. Music forms a conduit to the soul.
> >
> > Do you have a favorite hymn?
>
> Yes. This week I have two fav hymns, thank-you for asking. The first is "Come Unto Jesus" #125
>
> http://www.lds.org/cm/catalogsearchalpha/1,17929,4782-1-1,00.html
>
> Second: "Reverently and Meekly Now", #185. After it is loaded, select "words and music". This is the only hymn I am aware of where it is written in the first person, as though Jesus is singing to me (and you)
>
>

 

Re: hymns of faith rayww

Posted by Dinah on April 3, 2005, at 13:46:58

In reply to Re: hymns of faith rayww, posted by rayww on April 3, 2005, at 12:18:56

I love and miss that one myself.


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