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hymns of faith-Lou's response to BF's post Buckeye Fan

Posted by Lou Pilder on March 24, 2005, at 18:37:23

In reply to Re: hymns of faith, posted by Buckeye Fan on March 24, 2005, at 14:24:39

BF,
Could you clarify if you are meaning any of the following by posting the links to the words of the hymn [...Nothing but the Blood of Jesus...]?
A. I belive that it is true that nothing but the blood of Jesus can wash away sins.
B. I believe that there are other ways that sins can be washed away that are equal to the blood of Jesus.
C. Jews and others that do not accept the Jesus that popular christianty believes in still have their sins and thearfore are separated from God.
D. none of the above
E. a combination of the above
F. all of the above
G something else
Lou

 

Re: hymns of faith-Lou's response to BF's post Lou Pilder

Posted by Dinah on March 24, 2005, at 19:38:08

In reply to hymns of faith-Lou's response to BF's post Buckeye Fan, posted by Lou Pilder on March 24, 2005, at 18:37:23

Lou, you know that Buckeye fan couldn't answer yes to most of your options under the Faith board rules. Buckeye Fan did not state that everyone has to be saved by the blood of Jesus.

I'm rather fond of Ave Maria, and I'm not even Catholic. Favorite songs don't have to be theological statements. And even if they represent what someone believes he or she should do him or herself, it doesn't mean that he or she thinks that everyone has to do the same thing.

 

Lou's reply to Dinah Dinah

Posted by Lou Pilder on March 24, 2005, at 19:49:40

In reply to Re: hymns of faith-Lou's response to BF's post Lou Pilder, posted by Dinah on March 24, 2005, at 19:38:08

Dinah,
If you are saying that the posts in question are about music and not faith, then could not the posts in question be redirected to the bosard that accommodates music appreciation?
Lou

 

Re: Lou's reply to Dinah

Posted by Dinah on March 24, 2005, at 19:52:07

In reply to Lou's reply to Dinah Dinah, posted by Lou Pilder on March 24, 2005, at 19:49:40

No, that's not what I'm saying.

 

Re: hymns of faith

Posted by Buckeye Fan on March 25, 2005, at 6:14:10

In reply to Re: hymns of faith, posted by rayww on March 24, 2005, at 13:24:14

> Thankyou Dinah and Buckeye Fan. Do you have words and music? I need words today.
>
>
> > Yes!
> > Godly Music is a great gift from the Lord.
> > I was a Music Director for 9 years....so music is a big part of my life....here are some of my favorite Hymns...
************************************************

Rayww stated that he wanted, needed words...I simply replied with some of my favorite Hymns per his request.
This is the Faith Forum..and I do have probabley 100 other Hymns I love too.
I was just trying to accomodate Rayww's request
with words AND Music ( see his quote above)

My hope is that someone was encouraged and lifted
by the words and music of a few Classic Old Hymns.

BF

 

Re: hymns of faith

Posted by rayww on March 25, 2005, at 9:00:00

In reply to Re: hymns of faith, posted by Buckeye Fan on March 25, 2005, at 6:14:10

> > Thankyou Dinah and Buckeye Fan. Do you have words and music? I need words today.
> >
> >
> > > Yes!
> > > Godly Music is a great gift from the Lord.
> > > I was a Music Director for 9 years....so music is a big part of my life....here are some of my favorite Hymns...
> ************************************************
>
> Rayww stated that he wanted, needed words...I simply replied with some of my favorite Hymns per his request.
> This is the Faith Forum..and I do have probabley 100 other Hymns I love too.
> I was just trying to accomodate Rayww's request
> with words AND Music ( see his quote above)
>
> My hope is that someone was encouraged and lifted
> by the words and music of a few Classic Old Hymns.
>
> BF
>
>

My girlfriend who died as a result of a drunk driver, was named Ray after her father, because they thought she was going to be a son. A good friend once called me a wonderful woman. The night before I discovered this PB site I had a dream about that friend. We were in heaven and the spirit of love was so overpowering that when I awoke I was still in it. I chose the name, "rayww" to remind myself that I can be a ray of light to others, and a wonderful woman, something I tend to forget.

I would like to thank you BF and Dinah for sharing some of your favorite "Godly" hymns. I may share a couple of my own. Lou Pil, please allow us to enjoy this thread. thankyou. Lou, do you have a favorite hymn that speaks to you? If so, could you also share? I'm sure there will be some who appreciate your hymn without picking it apart. Even though I may not consider all hymns shared "Godly" I can appreciate those which I do. I believe you are capable of that as well. Thanks all.

 

Lou's response to rayww's post-pkaprt rayww

Posted by Lou Pilder on March 25, 2005, at 9:58:54

In reply to Re: hymns of faith, posted by rayww on March 25, 2005, at 9:00:00

rayww,
You wrote,[...Lou Pil, please allow us to enjoy this thread...].
Are you saying that my request for a determination as to the acceptability or not in relation to the guidlines of the forum of the post in question has something to do with your enjoying the thread? I have asked Dinah to redirect the posts in the thread to the administrative board and it was her post that innitiated my response.
Also, are you meaning that by me requesting clarification from the poster of [...nothing but the blood of Jesus...]that that has something to do with you enjoying the thread? The poster could have responded with the option offered as "none of the above" or , "something different" or one of the other options but has not yet responded to my request for clarification.
You wrote,[...picking it apart...](the Hymn)
It is not my intention to {pick apart}the hymn. The statement, [...{nothing} but the blood of Jesus...wash away sins...]IMO is a statement on a mental -health forum that is questionable here due to the guidlines of the forum and I am requesting from the administration a determination. So far, it is OK by Dinah to continue the thread. The final decision will be made as I undertand it, by Dr. Hsiung who is away for a while.
As far as your inviting me to join in posting hymns that I would like, thanks for the invitation, but I feel that it is more appropriate for these type of discussions about religious music to be done via email or babblemail or on a different board that accommodates music appreciation.
Lou

 

Re: Lou's response to rayww's post-pkaprt Lou Pilder

Posted by rayww on March 25, 2005, at 11:40:15

In reply to Lou's response to rayww's post-pkaprt rayww, posted by Lou Pilder on March 25, 2005, at 9:58:54

Lou, just share a hymn. Is that so hard?

 

Re: Hey ray rayww

Posted by AuntieMel on March 25, 2005, at 13:51:21

In reply to Re: Lou's response to rayww's post-pkaprt Lou Pilder, posted by rayww on March 25, 2005, at 11:40:15

Please - let's keep it calm here. I may have read it wrong, but it sounded a bit like you were baiting.

Please correct me.

 

Re: Hey ray

Posted by rayww on March 25, 2005, at 15:56:57

In reply to Re: Hey ray rayww, posted by AuntieMel on March 25, 2005, at 13:51:21

> Please - let's keep it calm here. I may have read it wrong, but it sounded a bit like you were baiting.
>
> Please correct me.


I'll admit I've been a tad reactive lately, as evidenced on some of the other boards.

Believe it or not, I was trying to calm it down here, and I genuinely do want Lou to share his favorite hymn. I actually really love Israeli music.

Do you have one AntiMel? Especially for Easter?

 

Re: hymns of faith rayww

Posted by rayww on March 25, 2005, at 17:35:16

In reply to hymns of faith, posted by rayww on March 23, 2005, at 10:43:59

> It has been said that if you can't pray, read the words of a hymn. I have been moved by so many hymns. Music forms a conduit to the soul.
>
> Do you have a favorite hymn?

Yes. This week I have two fav hymns, thank-you for asking. The first is "Come Unto Jesus" #125

http://www.lds.org/cm/catalogsearchalpha/1,17929,4782-1-1,00.html

Second: "Reverently and Meekly Now", #185. After it is loaded, select "words and music". This is the only hymn I am aware of where it is written in the first person, as though Jesus is singing to me (and you)

 

Re: hymns of faith

Posted by Mark H. on March 25, 2005, at 18:52:21

In reply to Re: hymns of faith rayww, posted by rayww on March 25, 2005, at 17:35:16

Although I'm a Buddhist, I've always been partial to the Vaughan Williams Easter hymn, "Hail Thee, Festival Day," for its joyous musical complexity and spirit of celebration and renewal.

Without endorsing any of the words of the hymn, or implying that they should apply to anyone at all, here is a link for those interested:

http://www.oremus.org/hymnal/h/h030.html

I wish a warm and happy Easter to all of my Christian friends!

Sincerely,

Mark H.

 

Re: Emmy's favorite Easter song Dinah

Posted by TofuEmmy on March 25, 2005, at 21:52:34

In reply to Re: hymns of faith, posted by Dinah on March 23, 2005, at 17:57:30

Sung to the tune of "I'm a little Teapot"

I'm a little chickie, (crouch down inside your egg) Ready to hatch!
Pecking at my shell (pecking motion)
Scratch, scratch, scratch! (scratching motion)
When I crack it open, Out I'll jump (jump out of shell)
Fluff my feathers, cheap, cheap, cheap!

emmy

 

Re: hymns of faith - not by definition but

Posted by partlycloudy on March 26, 2005, at 6:43:23

In reply to Re: hymns of faith rayww, posted by rayww on March 25, 2005, at 17:35:16

my favourite seasonal music for Easter is Handel's "Messiah". Just wish they would perform it during the correct holiday...

 

Re: hymns of faith - not by definition but

Posted by Buckeye Fan on March 26, 2005, at 7:33:21

In reply to Re: hymns of faith - not by definition but, posted by partlycloudy on March 26, 2005, at 6:43:23

> my favourite seasonal music for Easter is Handel's "Messiah". Just wish they would perform it during the correct holiday...

I agee.
Handel's life is a fascinating study of one who overcane alot of adversity.
At one point in wrting the song he didnt leavehis house for 3 weeks! A friend reports he visited him and often found Handek in tears, sobbing from the sheer emotions he poured into his song~
The "Messiah" (or Hallelujah Chorus as its sometimes called) debut in 1742...yet remains today as one of the most moving and stirring music ever written.

Here is an intersting article about George Fridrick Handel...

http://www.messiahcd.com/Information/about_The_Messiah/about_the_messiah.html

 

Re: hymns of faith - not by definition but

Posted by gardenergirl on March 26, 2005, at 7:49:42

In reply to Re: hymns of faith - not by definition but, posted by Buckeye Fan on March 26, 2005, at 7:33:21

Okay, not being brought up with much effort in any religion....I didn't know there was such a thing as Easter music!!!!

Naive gg

 

Re: hymns of faith - not by definition but

Posted by partlycloudy on March 26, 2005, at 12:45:01

In reply to Re: hymns of faith - not by definition but, posted by partlycloudy on March 26, 2005, at 6:43:23

There isn't, unless you count "Here Comes Peter Cottontail"... I think of Handel's Messiah as Easter music because it does not tell the story of Christmas (when it's always performed) but rather of Easter. it's always struck me funny that such a beautiful and most popular choral piece is played when it is.
pc

 

Re: hymns of faith - not by definition but partlycloudy

Posted by gardenergirl on March 26, 2005, at 15:00:58

In reply to Re: hymns of faith - not by definition but, posted by partlycloudy on March 26, 2005, at 12:45:01

Oh yes, I forgot about Peter. D'oh!

gg

 

I do have a favorite Easter song from Primary

Posted by Dinah on March 26, 2005, at 20:32:26

In reply to Re: hymns of faith - not by definition but partlycloudy, posted by gardenergirl on March 26, 2005, at 15:00:58

Or maybe Sunday School. "Christ is Risen" I don't recall all the words right now, but I'm sure I will on Easter.

Since I don't recall the words right now, I should state that it isn't as a doctrine of faith that I like the song, but more because it's the only religious song for Easter that I know.

 

Re: I do have a favorite Easter song from Primary

Posted by Buckeye Fan on March 26, 2005, at 23:25:25

In reply to I do have a favorite Easter song from Primary, posted by Dinah on March 26, 2005, at 20:32:26

Christ The Lord Is Risen Today

Christ the Lord is risen today, Al - - le lu ia.

Sons of men and angels say: Al - - le lu ia.
raise your joys and triumphs high, Al - - le lu ia.
Sing ye heav'ns, and earth reply, Al - - le lu ia.

Lives again our glorious king: Alleluia.
Where, O death, is now thy sting? Alleluia.
Dying once, He all doth save: Alleluia.
Where thy victory, O grave? Alleluia.

Love's redeeming work is done, Alleluia.
Fought the fight, the battle won, Alleluia.
Death in vain forbids Him rise, Alleluia.
Christ has opened Paradise. Alleluia.

Soar we now, where Christ has led, Alleluia.
Foll'wing our exalted Head; Alleluia.
Made like Him, like Him we rise, Alleluia.


BF

 

Re: I do have a favorite Easter song from Primary

Posted by Dinah on March 27, 2005, at 13:45:08

In reply to Re: I do have a favorite Easter song from Primary, posted by Buckeye Fan on March 26, 2005, at 23:25:25

I remembered that one today!! And yes, it's lovely too. I love the word "Alleluia". It sounds like what it means.

No, this one was a children's song. I have the words somewhere, although I made my son listen to the record (gasp! - dinosaur days) this morning, and the lyric sheet wasn't with it.

My mother will know the words, I'm sure.

"Hear the something ringing, ringing,
Something something something something,
Something something, hearts are singing,
Christ is risen, Christ is risen!
Alleluia, Christ is risen."

That's all I can remember. Bad me. Bad me.

 

I think it's..... Dinah

Posted by messadivoce on March 27, 2005, at 18:00:53

In reply to Re: I do have a favorite Easter song from Primary, posted by Dinah on March 27, 2005, at 13:45:08

Hear the bells ringing, they're singing
Christ is risen from the dead!


Is that the one?? My mom has a CD by a men's singing group called "Glad" who do a great arrangement of this song.

 

Re: I do have a favorite Easter song from Primary Buckeye Fan

Posted by 10derHeart on March 27, 2005, at 22:15:28

In reply to Re: I do have a favorite Easter song from Primary, posted by Buckeye Fan on March 26, 2005, at 23:25:25

I know it's not what Dinah meant, but...

I got to sing this twice today (sunrise and regular service)It was great.

I've loved the song since I was little. My mom died when I was nineteen, and when we sing it now, I can *feel* her, in my heart, but also like she is standing next to me singing when I was little. It's special, 'cause for some reason I can't remember a lot about my mom, and since I was an adult when she died, I should be able to (working on this in therapy :-( )

Anyway, I adore this hymn...

 

Re: hymns of faith - not by definition but Buckeye Fan

Posted by Simus on March 28, 2005, at 0:26:50

In reply to Re: hymns of faith - not by definition but, posted by Buckeye Fan on March 26, 2005, at 7:33:21

> > my favourite seasonal music for Easter is Handel's "Messiah". Just wish they would perform it during the correct holiday...
>
> I agee.
> Handel's life is a fascinating study of one who overcane alot of adversity.
> At one point in wrting the song he didnt leavehis house for 3 weeks! A friend reports he visited him and often found Handek in tears, sobbing from the sheer emotions he poured into his song~
> The "Messiah" (or Hallelujah Chorus as its sometimes called) debut in 1742...yet remains today as one of the most moving and stirring music ever written.
>
> Here is an intersting article about George Fridrick Handel...
>
> http://www.messiahcd.com/Information/about_The_Messiah/about_the_messiah.html


I also agree about Handel's "Messiah." What a magnificent, timeless work it is.

Thanks for sharing the website. I had always wondered about the story behind the writing of "Messiah".

 

Re: hymns of faith - not by definition but

Posted by rayww on March 28, 2005, at 20:43:33

In reply to Re: hymns of faith - not by definition but Buckeye Fan, posted by Simus on March 28, 2005, at 0:26:50

I loved that article about Handel. "Messiah" is a universal work that has done more to unite Christians than any other thing. Music is of the spirit. We all sing many of the same hymns in our services, and I'll bet all have enjoyed a performance of "Messiah".
Thanks again for sharing the link.
rayww

> > > my favourite seasonal music for Easter is Handel's "Messiah". Just wish they would perform it during the correct holiday...
> >
> > I agee.
> > Handel's life is a fascinating study of one who overcane alot of adversity.
> > At one point in wrting the song he didnt leavehis house for 3 weeks! A friend reports he visited him and often found Handek in tears, sobbing from the sheer emotions he poured into his song~
> > The "Messiah" (or Hallelujah Chorus as its sometimes called) debut in 1742...yet remains today as one of the most moving and stirring music ever written.
> >
> > Here is an intersting article about George Fridrick Handel...
> >
> > http://www.messiahcd.com/Information/about_The_Messiah/about_the_messiah.html
>
>
> I also agree about Handel's "Messiah." What a magnificent, timeless work it is.
>
> Thanks for sharing the website. I had always wondered about the story behind the writing of "Messiah".


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