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Posted by slinky on October 2, 2003, at 14:30:07
Dear God
Hope you got the message, and
I pray you can make it better down here
I don't mean a big reduction in the price of beer
But all the people that you made in your image
See them starving on their feet
'Cause they don't get enough to eat
From God, I can't believe in you
I can't believe in you
Dear God
Sorry to disturb you, but
I feel that I should be heard loud and clear
We all need a big reduction in amount of tears
And all the people that you made in your image
See them fighting in the street
'Cause they can't make opinions meet about God
I can't believe in you
I can't believeDid you make disease
I can't believe
And the diamond blue?
I don't believe
Did you make mankind after we made you?
I can't believe
And the devil too
I don't believe
I can't believeDear God
Don't know if you noticed, but
Your name is on a lot of quotes in this book
And us crazy humans wrote it, you should take a look
And all the people that you made in your image still believing that junk exist
Well I know it ain't, and so do you
Dear God
I can't believe in
I don't believe in
I don't believeI won't believe in heaven and hell
No saints, no sinners, no devil as well
No pearly gates, no thorny crown
You're always letting us humans down
The wars you bring, the babes you drown
Those lost at sea and never found
And it's the same the whole world 'round
The hurt I see helps to compound
That Father, Son and Holy Ghost
Is just somebody's unholy hoax
And if you're up there you'd perceive
That my heart's here upon my sleeve
If there's one thing I don't believe inIt's you
[originally performed by XTC, written by Andy Partridge, 1987]
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Costanza & Tricky:Suppose uncivil?
Posted by stjames on October 2, 2003, at 18:50:48
In reply to Dear god, posted by slinky on October 2, 2003, at 14:30:07
> Suppose uncivil?
>
Well, at least on this faith board even if it is true it may not be considered by Dr Bob to be supportive.
Posted by Dr. Bob on October 2, 2003, at 19:41:21
In reply to Dear god, posted by slinky on October 2, 2003, at 14:30:07
> Suppose uncivil?
Close enough, please be supportive of religious faith when you post on this board, thanks.
Bob
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Posted by slinky on October 3, 2003, at 18:14:13
In reply to Dear god, posted by slinky on October 2, 2003, at 14:30:07
Posted by Dinah on October 3, 2003, at 18:18:11
In reply to Dear god, posted by slinky on October 2, 2003, at 14:30:07
I suppose it all depends on your point of view, Slinky. I don't think that those who believe somehow miss seeing what an unholy mess we've made down here. But those who believe in God also believe that He made us with free will. And He gave us a guideline on how to make the world a better place. Unfortunately, we all too often use our free will to bring sadness to the world.
I suppose there the believers begin to have different views of God's role. My personal view is that God weeps with us when those made in his image (in other words, with the knowledge of good and evil and the free will to choose between them), bring pain to the world.
Posted by Dena on October 4, 2003, at 11:39:43
In reply to Re: Dear god » slinky, posted by Dinah on October 3, 2003, at 18:18:11
First of all, amen, Dinah! Once again, you've spoken eloquent words of truth.
What a dismal song. And how sad to choose to live in such hopelessness when joy is available.
God isn't to be blamed for the evil in this world. If we chose to live by His operating instructions: to love God with all our hearts, soul, strength & mind, & to love our neighbors as ourselves, then this world would be a far better place. If we each live according to this principle, we can each have the hope, joy & peace we so desperately crave.
I, for one, am so glad that God promised never again to wipe out the evil in this world with a flood.
I wish peace & hope both to the writer of that song, & to the one who identified with it.
Shalom, Dena
Posted by slinky on October 5, 2003, at 9:02:13
In reply to Re: Dear god, posted by Dena on October 4, 2003, at 11:39:43
>
> I wish peace & hope both to the writer of that song, & to the one who identified with it.
>
Hi Dena..
Thanks, I need peace/hope...I hope to find peace soon. I wish I had faith , I have my spiritual side though. Sorry if I offended..take care.
Posted by Dena on October 5, 2003, at 10:08:54
In reply to Re: Dear god » Dena, posted by slinky on October 5, 2003, at 9:02:13
Dear Slinky -
Rest assured, you didn't offend me. Truthfully, as a follower of Jesus, I'm taught to expect that others will find Him offensive, & so they'll react offensively toward me, as His follower. He said, "As the world hates Me, so it will hate you if you are My disciple." It just comes with the territory.
I've also been taught to respond to offense with love - it's not always easy when my emotions are affected, but I strive to be obedient. I can choose to act in love, even when my feelings don't cooperate.
So, if something offensive is said to or about me, my desire is to forgive - to look beyond the surface of the offense & see the hurt/confusion/fear behind the offense. I choose to pray for the one who offended me, rather than to retaliate, which only hurts me. Bitterness destroys - forgiveness liberates.
When I read your post, I felt a deep sadness, both for you & the writer of the lyrics. I understand that sadness, I once was consumed with it. When our God-shaped void is empty, or is filled with counterfeit stuff, we're miserable - even if we succeed in covering up that misery with other distractions (work, relationships, money, hobbies, etc.). I believe we're created to love & worship God - nothing else really satisfies.
May I keep praying for you? I'd like to pray that you'll come to know God as He really is, & that you'll discover who he created you to be.
Shalom, Dena
Posted by Dr. Bob on October 6, 2003, at 0:02:49
In reply to Re: Dear god, posted by Dena on October 4, 2003, at 11:39:43
> how sad to choose to live in such hopelessness
Keeping in mind that the idea here is not to post anything that could lead others to feel accused, could you please rephrase that? Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Dena on October 6, 2003, at 9:11:38
In reply to Re: please rephrase that » Dena, posted by Dr. Bob on October 6, 2003, at 0:02:49
> > how sad to choose to live in such hopelessness
>
> Keeping in mind that the idea here is not to post anything that could lead others to feel accused, could you please rephrase that? Thanks,
>
> Bob
Sure.How about, How sad to end up living in such hopelessness when joy is available.
It is sad to end up in hopelessness. And joy is available. How sad to be blocked from accessing it.
Better?
Shalom, Dena
Posted by Dr. Bob on October 6, 2003, at 14:45:41
In reply to Re: please rephrase that » Dr. Bob, posted by Dena on October 6, 2003, at 9:11:38
Posted by fachad on October 30, 2003, at 19:43:46
In reply to Dear god, posted by slinky on October 2, 2003, at 14:30:07
Slinky,
Don't just sit around and mope - do something. Get in early on this class action lawsuit:
LORD UNDER INVESTIGATION FOR FAILURE TO PROVIDEWASHINGTON, DC—The six-millennia-old sky-father deity Yahweh, worshiped by Christians, Muslims and Jews alike for His alleged all-knowing compassion and vast benevolence toward humanity, refused comment following Monday's announcement that the U.S. Justice Department will investigate allegations of failure on His part to provide for His approximately 3.5 billion human followers.
The Lord (above) is the subject of a massive U.S. Justice Department inquisition.
According to Justice Department officials, on more than 70 trillion documented occasions, the Lord has failed to provide for dutiful worshippers, allowing them to go without Providence in times of great need and showing little if any of the celebrated deity's much-touted "boundless love."The list of Justice Department allegations ranges from the mundane, such as the Lord's reported September 1995 refusal to see to it that Terre Haute, IN, Presbyterian Joyce Halstrom receives a new set of drapes for her anniversary, to the catastrophic, such as last year's Mexico City earthquake, in which God allowed an estimated 150,000 devout Catholics to be crushed to death under tons of debris.
"These are very serious charges," U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno said. "I can assure you that our department will investigate them fully."
The allegations directly contradict over 6,000 years of extravagant claims by the Lord's prophets of "miracle" cures and other forms of all-encompassing heavenly grace.
Immediately following the Justice Department announcement, many of the Lord's top earthly representatives fled into hiding, including Pope John Paul II, New York's Cardinal O'Connor, and Rabbi Menachem Schindler, president of the World Orthodox Jewish Congress.
In Rome, an unruly mob surrounded the Panamanian Embassy, where many believe the Pope is currently hiding out and seeking asylum. These reports, however, remain unsubstantiated as of press time.
The Lord did not respond to a federal subpoena ordering him to appear before the investigative commission, and refused to speak to reporters on this or any subject throughout the week.
Efforts on the part of law-enforcement authorities to contact the alleged supreme being via the intercessionary medium of prayer have been equally unsuccessful.
One of the areas in which the Lord has been the most negligent, the Justice Department claims, is in providing His followers with adequate access to education: Fundamentalist Christians remain, after thousands of years, among the least educated groups in the world, ranking below pro-wrestling enthusiasts and carnival workers.
Claims of an eternal "life after death" also remain unconfirmed by deceased believers from around the globe.
"It's sad to think of the abusive treatment people have received at the hands of their so-called protector," U.S. Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT) said, "especially when you think about all those countless hours they spent in houses of worship rejoicing and loudly bearing thanks and praise."
The senator noted that, with over 450,000 hymns and songs written about Him, the Lord ranks among the most praised entities ever.
If the charges prove true, the Lord could face up to 3,100 years in jail and/or fines totalling $50 trillion. He would also be forced to return all gratitude and thanks paid to Him by followers, backdated to the dawn of civilization.
Despite the seriousness of the charges, many believers remain loyal to the embattled deity. "I know it seems like the worst thing ever," said Lynette Maddox, a Flatwoods, KY, manicurist and mother of nine, "but we just have to trust that it's all part of God's plan."
The full story can be found here:
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