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re: auras:: Thank you, Temm-ster! you're good too! (nm)

Posted by lil' jimi on August 18, 2003, at 15:59:12

In reply to re: auras » lil' jimi, posted by temmie on August 18, 2003, at 14:46:16

 

Re: Broken Horses/Broken Hearts/Travails of the Spirit » rayww

Posted by Temmie on August 18, 2003, at 20:04:36

In reply to Re: Broken Horses/Broken Hearts/Travails of the Spirit » Temmie, posted by rayww on August 18, 2003, at 0:39:35

Good thoughts here, RayWW ... not sure what to add, other than to note the (what I thought was) very interesting "perception" vs. "reality" series of advertisements Volkswagon ran years ago. I was working in advertising at the time, and the publication "Ad Week" was always a fave.

That said ... hmmmm. I'm apparently too lost in the mist (and way too off track) to entertain discussion here .... Thanks for writing, though!

Temmie.

 

re: auras » lil' jimi

Posted by rayww on August 18, 2003, at 21:13:04

In reply to re: auras, posted by lil' jimi on August 18, 2003, at 13:55:03

Thankyou for that training. If I knew where to go for more information I would probably study it further (farther?)

As for seers, I think we may have a different understanding of what a seer is, but that's ok.

I really understand what you wrote, especially what you said about vision, and how you look at things through your p vision, or from the corner of your eye, or when you're looking at something but not looking at it, etc.

You may wish to debate this, but I think there are gifts to be found in some of the disorders that are very real, this being one of them.

I'm almost embarrassed to admit this but I have been told by many that I have a gift of sorts, some say I am the most spiritual person they know, others note that I seem to know what they are thinking before they think it, funny stuff like that. I don't really believe it. I have too many problems in my channelling to keep the communicaiton clear. Oops wrong word for this congregation.

I have issues and personal things I have to work very hard on to do with the disorder. Life in normal lane has never been easy for me, a person who loves to swing in the outer limits of thought and fear.

 

Re: Broken Horses/Broken Hearts/Travails of the Spirit » Temmie

Posted by rayww on August 18, 2003, at 21:53:42

In reply to Re: Broken Horses/Broken Hearts/Travails of the Spirit » rayww, posted by Temmie on August 18, 2003, at 20:04:36

I've prayed for you Temmie. I wish you peace and a good nights rest. Thanks for your ideas and for including me in your discussion.

 

Thank you! » rayww

Posted by Temmie on August 19, 2003, at 2:46:53

In reply to Re: Broken Horses/Broken Hearts/Travails of the Spirit » Temmie, posted by rayww on August 18, 2003, at 21:53:42

I am blessed to be the recipient of such care!

My apologies to you (and all) if I've seemed irritable or "on-edge" lately. Thank you Ray, and all, for your tender words of encouragment, and for your gracious, giving of time, energy and prayers!

I'm going back to bed now ... humbled .... I awoke with nightmares (see next post), but will attempt sleep again with your prayers (and mine) in mind.

Peace, Temmie

 

I Dreamed My Teeth Were Falling Out

Posted by Temmie on August 19, 2003, at 2:51:03

In reply to Re: Broken Horses/Broken Hearts/Travails of the Spirit » Temmie, posted by rayww on August 18, 2003, at 21:53:42

I’m sorry, I’ve lost some of the information in the transfer of this article from … “The New York Times,” 27 oct 02

Falling, flying, infidelity - yeah, yeah, been there done that last night. You know what? Pay attention to your recurring dreams - they might be trying to help you change your life. Bronwen Gora reports.

We rarely take notice of the messages we receive from repetitive dreams, but they can tell us a lot about our fears. According to psychologists and counsellors, they are road maps of our lives and can teach us something. "Dreams are a primary part of the process of understanding your own internal landscape," says Bondi-based counsellor Siana Carren. "They're like maps of the journey we're on." And if the dreams are repetitive, it means you're not working on their message. "Your mind will keep sending you the same dream until you act on it," Carren says.

This means analysing them as much as possible and then taking steps to resolve any troublesome issues, through counselling if necessary. Basically, a recurring dream means there's an issue in your life that hasn't been dealt with - and you must get to the bottom of it.

For instance, psychologist Michael Burge had a client who dreamt of a scary hawk on a tree about to attack her. "When she analysed it more she saw it (the hawk) was a part of herself, a strong part she'd been denying."

It's very important we do this or we will lose the lesson and it will affect our lives.
Psychologist Stefan Durlach, who follows philosopher Carl Jung's interpretations of dreams, says you must "engage with what comes up in a dream" to "create a parallel experience" with your life. So try to write down and/or remember your dreams in such a way that you will have a memory of them as you go about your daily routine.

Teeth Falling Out

Burge says this is a highly common dream. "What's decaying in your life?" he asks. "Are there aspects of your life you're ignoring? Are you in a rut - or pushing yourself too much?"
Nacson says people with this dream often find that in daily life they are losing face or feeling shameful about something. Alternatively, if your teeth are wobbly in your dream when you are involved in something new, it may indicate you feel you are not getting your teeth into the situation.

Burge says research has shown at least 50 per cent of repetitive dreams are related to our well-being, health and growth. "So attend to it, as it's to do with your life aspirations and capabilities."

 

Dream Doctor, Interesting Site

Posted by Temmie on August 19, 2003, at 2:52:01

In reply to Re: Broken Horses/Broken Hearts/Travails of the Spirit » Temmie, posted by rayww on August 18, 2003, at 21:53:42

http://www.dreamcoach.com.au/index.htm

 

re: auras » rayww

Posted by lil' jimi on August 19, 2003, at 11:07:16

In reply to re: auras » lil' jimi, posted by rayww on August 18, 2003, at 21:13:04

hi rayww,

> Thank you for that training.

you're welcome, although you flatter me to call it training ...
... i happen to know some of the mechanical and electrical systems of our astral bodies ...

>If I knew where to go for more information I would probably study it further (farther?)
>

well, it would be better if there is something in your tradition for you ... but that may not be possible ... ... many religions invalidate these experiences ...
which can be limiting ...

> As for seers, I think we may have a different understanding of what a seer is, but that's ok.
>

i co-opted that term to apply specifically to mean “one who sees auras” ... ... instead of the more familiar ‘fortune teller’ meaning ... i can get creative with words sometimes ... ... sorry ...

> I really understand what you wrote, especially what you said about vision, and how you look at things through your p vision, or from the corner of your eye, or when you're looking at something but not looking at it, etc.
>

it is an odd thing about how they (auras, et al) want to play peek-a-boo like that ...

> You may wish to debate this, but I think there are gifts to be found in some of the disorders that are very real, this being one of them.
>

Mercury's posts speak vividly to this issue ... ... i'm not very skeptical about this at all ... ... know how we get told there's a fine line between genius and insanity? ... ... i believe the line is finer between the mystic and
the madman ... ... in fact, that's the stereotype for people with spiritual vision ...

> I'm almost embarrassed to admit this but I have been told by many that I have a gift of sorts, some say I am the most spiritual person they know, others note that I seem to know what they are thinking before they think it, funny stuff like that. I don't really believe it. I have too many problems in my channeling to keep the communication clear. Oops wrong word for this congregation.
>

i am grateful to you for overcoming your embarrassment to share this with me (us) ... ...
... ... i do feel that there are great challenges for those with sight to overcome the perils from seeing too much ... ... or too clearly

... ... any words you may choose should work fine among my spiritual community ... ... were you concerned about the term “channeling” ? ... no need to be here .... well, not with me anyway ...

> I have issues and personal things I have to work very hard on to do with the disorder. Life in normal lane has never been easy for me, a person who loves to swing in the outer limits of thought and fear.
>

there is the risk of one’s sight revealing more than can be absorbed ... ...
... ... and there are those who suffer from their vision of the celestial overwhelming their sense of time and place ...
... ... having a larger perspective can sometimes be cosmically disorienting
... ... some people have lost their way ...

... which is why i want to find you the experts to help you with your vision ...
... but i am Not sure how ... yet ...
... yet, if you’d like, i shall try ...

bliss to you,
~ jim

 

re: auras » lil' jimi

Posted by rayww on August 19, 2003, at 15:31:22

In reply to re: auras » rayww, posted by lil' jimi on August 19, 2003, at 11:07:16

Catch you later, I do want to respond to this.

 

re: auras » rayww

Posted by rayww on August 21, 2003, at 10:14:56

In reply to re: auras » lil' jimi, posted by rayww on August 19, 2003, at 15:31:22

Jimi,
Yours was a very kind and thoughtful response and I appreciated it more than you know. It is a wonderful thing that two can communicate across the "fine line" and feel comfortable doing so.

> well, it would be better if there is something in your tradition for you ... but that may not be possible ... ... many religions invalidate these experiences ...
> which can be limiting ...

My tradition is very accepting of all gifts of the spirit, but has guidelines to insure whatever received is in line with what Prophets and Seers have recorded in scripture. I personally like the safety net of two or three witnesses to everything.

>>> i co-opted that term to apply specifically to mean “one who sees auras” ... ... instead of the more familiar ‘fortune teller’ meaning ... i can get creative with words sometimes ... ... sorry ...


No need to say sorry. I love being very creative with words and meanings too. That is good. The song that popped into my head after I wrote the post on "seers" is "The Wonderful Thing about Tiggers"

"The wonderful thing about Seers, yes Seers are wonderful things, The most wonderful thing about seers is that God has appointed them to record for our benefit, the fullness of his gospel through all ages of time. God has for-ordained prophets and seers and placed them on earth in each gospel dispensation, (Adam, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Moses, and so on) and he commands them to record his words to them. That is a wonderful thing for us. No one should be offended that God has a "God's people" through whom he has delivered his word for the benefit of all mankind. Commonly referred to as Jew and Gentile, First will be last and last will be first....not all who say "Lord, Lord," will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he that doeth the will of my father....etc.


> Mercury's posts speak vividly to this issue ... ... i'm not very skeptical about this at all ... ... know how we get told there's a fine line between genius and insanity? ... ... i believe the line is finer between the mystic and
> the madman ... ... in fact, that's the stereotype for people with spiritual vision ...


I'll have to read Mercury's posts again. I am surprised at your last statement. Are those with spiritual vision really stereotyped madmen? Is Gordon B. Hinckley considered a madman? How about Mother Theresa? The Pope, me, you? There is a lot more I would like to probe on this subject, that's for sure. I hope you will continue to probe it as well, as we are all searching for answers here.
>
> i am grateful to you for overcoming your embarrassment to share this with me (us) ... ...
> ... ... i do feel that there are great challenges for those with sight to overcome the perils from seeing too much ... ... or too clearly
>
> ... ... any words you may choose should work fine among my spiritual community ... ... were you concerned about the term “channeling” ? ... no need to be here .... well, not with me anyway ...
>


That was such a kind response to something I honestly thought I deleted before posting. strange. When I use the word Channelling I refer more to fine tuning myself into God's channel, rather than to other diversions that move me away from God.

>
> there is the risk of one’s sight revealing more than can be absorbed ... ...
> ... ... and there are those who suffer from their vision of the celestial overwhelming their sense of time and place ...
> ... ... having a larger perspective can sometimes be cosmically disorienting
> ... ... some people have lost their way ...

What beautiful poetic perception you have! I honestly love the way you express things. You have great knowledge and wisdom, and I learn so much from reading your posts.

>
> ... which is why i want to find you the experts to help you with your vision ...
> ... but i am Not sure how ... yet ...
> ... yet, if you’d like, i shall try ...

That is a very kind offer and I appreciate your gift, and if you figure it out, please let me know. I think what I have is common and ordinary to my tradition. I am satisfied with the understanding I have, but certainly have been interested in and appreciative of the light you have shed on the subject. Thank you and,

>
> bliss to you, too ~ jim

rayww
>

TIGGER'S SONG

The Wonderful thing about Tiggers
Is Tiggers are wonderful things
Their tops are made out of rubber
The bottoms are made out of springs

They're bouncy, trouncy, flouncy, pouncy
Fun, fun, fun, fun, fun

But the most wonderful thing about Tiggers is
I'm the only one

The wonderful thing about Tiggers
Is Tiggers are wonderful chaps
They're loaded with vim and vigor
They love to leap in your laps

They're jumpy, bumpy, clumpy, thumpy
Fun, fun, fun, fun, fun

But the most wonderful thing about Tiggers is
I'm the only one

Tiggers are cuddly fellows
Tiggers are awfully sweet

Everyone else is jealous
That's why I repeat

The wonderful thing about Tiggers
Is Tiggers are wonderful things
Their tops are made out of rubber
Their bottoms are made out of springs

They're bouncy, trouncy, flouncy, pouncy
Fun, fun, fun, fun, fun

But the most wonderful thing about Tiggers is
I'm the only one

IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII'mmmmmmmmmm the only one!!!!!!


"bouncy trouncy" is a term that I have used to describe my own spirit. now I know where that term came from. Do a search on "The wonderful thing about tiggers" and you get full color pictures and music as well. Cool!

 

re: auras

Posted by Dinah on August 21, 2003, at 22:45:03

In reply to re: auras » rayww, posted by rayww on August 21, 2003, at 10:14:56

I must confess that my concentration is not such at the moment that I was fully able to take in the posts on this subject. But the title intrigued me.

I have often wondered about my way of seeing people. I have great difficulty seeing their actual features. But I can see them in other ways quite well. I actually see them better sometimes with my eyes closed.

Sometimes the way I see them involves color, sometimes texture, sometimes other things. My father often has a black cloud with bolts of red in it. A psychologist I saw for testing was billowy and marshmallowy, though that had nothing to do with her looks.

I don't much converse with other people, so I've never been quite sure if how I saw people was the norm or not. My therapist is often greatly entertained by my descriptions of himself and of others. He thinks it's a form of emotional sensitivity.

Is this the sort of thing aura means? Or are auras more concrete?

 

re: auras » rayww

Posted by lil' jimi on August 24, 2003, at 3:07:28

In reply to re: auras » rayww, posted by rayww on August 21, 2003, at 10:14:56

hi rayww!

> Jimi,
> Yours was a very kind and thoughtful response and I appreciated it more than you know. It is a wonderful thing that two can communicate across the "fine line" and feel comfortable doing so. >

well, good for us!

> > well, it would be better if there is something in your tradition for you ... but that may not be possible ... ... many religions invalidate these experiences ...
> > which can be limiting ...
>
> My tradition is very accepting of all gifts of the spirit, but has guidelines to insure whatever received is in line with what Prophets and Seers have recorded in scripture. I personally like the safety net of two or three witnesses to everything. >

... and i appreciated this more than you know ...
... for as much as knowing that the folks are accepting there, i am happier still that there is support for you to be safe ... that is great!

> >>> i co-opted that term to apply specifically to mean “one who sees auras” ... ... instead of the more familiar ‘fortune teller’ meaning ... i can get creative with words sometimes ... ... sorry ...
>
>
> No need to say sorry. I love being very creative with words and meanings too. That is good. The song that popped into my head after I wrote the post on "seers" is "The Wonderful Thing about Tiggers"
>
> "The wonderful thing about Seers, yes Seers are wonderful things, The most wonderful thing about seers is that God has appointed them to record for our benefit, the fullness of his gospel through all ages of time. God has for-ordained prophets and seers and placed them on earth in each gospel dispensation, (Adam, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Moses, and so on) and he commands them to record his words to them. That is a wonderful thing for us. No one should be offended that God has a "God's people" through whom he has delivered his word for the benefit of all mankind. Commonly referred to as Jew and Gentile, First will be last and last will be first....not all who say "Lord, Lord," will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he that doeth the will of my father....etc. >

amen .

>
> > Mercury's posts speak vividly to this issue ... ... i'm not very skeptical about this at all ... ... know how we get told there's a fine line between genius and insanity? ... ... i believe the line is finer between the mystic and
> > the madman ... ... in fact, that's the stereotype for people with spiritual vision ...
>
>
> I'll have to read Mercury's posts again. I am surprised at your last statement. Are those with spiritual vision really stereotyped madmen? Is Gordon B. Hinckley considered a madman? How about Mother Theresa? The Pope, me, you? There is a lot more I would like to probe on this subject, that's for sure. I hope you will continue to probe it as well, as we are all searching for answers here. >

... stereotypes aren't approved objective standards ... they are usually slanderous ... ... of course, i myself do Not subscribe to such stereotypes ... i have great respect for the mystics ... ...
... that said, there has been a history of some mystics going mad ... such powers do not come with out their risks

> >
> > i am grateful to you for overcoming your embarrassment to share this with me (us) ... ...
> > ... ... i do feel that there are great challenges for those with sight to overcome the perils from seeing too much ... ... or too clearly
> >
> > ... ... any words you may choose should work fine among my spiritual community ... ... were you concerned about the term “channeling” ? ... no need to be here .... well, not with me anyway ...
> >
>
>
> That was such a kind response to something I honestly thought I deleted before posting. strange. When I use the word Channelling I refer more to fine tuning myself into God's channel, rather than to other diversions that move me away from God.

i see.

> >
> > there is the risk of one’s sight revealing more than can be absorbed ... ...
> > ... ... and there are those who suffer from their vision of the celestial overwhelming their sense of time and place ...
> > ... ... having a larger perspective can sometimes be cosmically disorienting
> > ... ... some people have lost their way ...
>
> What beautiful poetic perception you have! I honestly love the way you express things. You have great knowledge and wisdom, and I learn so much from reading your posts. >

you are so kind ... i am so glad to be of benefit ... thank you


> > ... which is why i want to find you the experts to help you with your vision ...
> > ... but i am Not sure how ... yet ...
> > ... yet, if you’d like, i shall try ...
>
> That is a very kind offer and I appreciate your gift, and if you figure it out, please let me know. I think what I have is common and ordinary to my tradition. I am satisfied with the understanding I have, but certainly have been interested in and appreciative of the light you have shed on the subject. Thank you and,
>
> >
> > bliss to you, too ~ jim
>
> rayww
> >

and i am very grateful that you have such good support .. .. .. i was concerned that you might not ...


> TIGGER'S SONG
>
> The Wonderful thing about Tiggers
> Is Tiggers are wonderful things
> Their tops are made out of rubber
> The bottoms are made out of springs
>
> They're bouncy, trouncy, flouncy, pouncy
> Fun, fun, fun, fun, fun
>
> But the most wonderful thing about Tiggers is
> I'm the only one
>
> The wonderful thing about Tiggers
> Is Tiggers are wonderful chaps
> They're loaded with vim and vigor
> They love to leap in your laps
>
> They're jumpy, bumpy, clumpy, thumpy
> Fun, fun, fun, fun, fun
>
> But the most wonderful thing about Tiggers is
> I'm the only one
>
> Tiggers are cuddly fellows
> Tiggers are awfully sweet
>
> Everyone else is jealous
> That's why I repeat
>
> The wonderful thing about Tiggers
> Is Tiggers are wonderful things
> Their tops are made out of rubber
> Their bottoms are made out of springs
>
> They're bouncy, trouncy, flouncy, pouncy
> Fun, fun, fun, fun, fun
>
> But the most wonderful thing about Tiggers is
> I'm the only one
>
> IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII'mmmmmmmmmm the only one!!!!!!
>
>
> "bouncy trouncy" is a term that I have used to describe my own spirit. now I know where that term came from. Do a search on "The wonderful thing about tiggers" and you get full color pictures and music as well. Cool!
>
>

and i thank you for Tigger's Song ... ... our 4 year-old will appreciaye it too ... he has introduced me to Poo and his friends some ... now i shall retaliate! ...
... and thanks for the Bouncy Trouncy, too

peace,
~ jim

 

re: auras » Dinah

Posted by lil' jimi on August 24, 2003, at 3:41:58

In reply to re: auras, posted by Dinah on August 21, 2003, at 22:45:03

hi Dinah!

> I must confess that my concentration is not such at the moment that I was fully able to take in the posts on this subject. But the title intrigued me.
>
> I have often wondered about my way of seeing people. I have great difficulty seeing their actual features. But I can see them in other ways quite well. I actually see them better sometimes with my eyes closed.
>
> Sometimes the way I see them involves color, sometimes texture, sometimes other things. My father often has a black cloud with bolts of red in it. A psychologist I saw for testing was billowy and marshmallowy, though that had nothing to do with her looks.
>
> I don't much converse with other people, so I've never been quite sure if how I saw people was the norm or not. My therapist is often greatly entertained by my descriptions of himself and of others. He thinks it's a form of emotional sensitivity.
>
> Is this the sort of thing aura means? Or are auras more concrete?
>

i would say you are seeing auras ... ... and this perception certainly is a form of emotional sensitivity ... your therapist should be commended for being empathetic ...

i know of nothing about auras being specific or required in terms of being perceived ... ... certainly not concrete ...
... ... these perceptions can be reflective of the emotions or other elements of the person or object with which they are seen
... ... yours are not the typical descriptions of auras i am familiar with or have heard ...
... for as much as i am sensitive enough for me to "see", auras are typically vaporous whisps which glow as if from leaking radiation ...

... because each of us perceives auras with our own emotional (astral) sense organs (chakras), we should expect that our sensations we experience from auras to be as diverse as we are ... ... yours sound to me rather like soft sculptures ...

... and these experiences obstruct your regular (i don't know what to call it except "regular") sight?
... ... i find this curious and it makes me concerned ... ... i want you to be able to see!

take care,
~ jim

 

re: auras

Posted by Dinah on August 24, 2003, at 19:48:39

In reply to re: auras » Dinah, posted by lil' jimi on August 24, 2003, at 3:41:58

> ... and these experiences obstruct your regular (i don't know what to call it except "regular") sight?
> ... ... i find this curious and it makes me concerned ... ... i want you to be able to see!
>
> take care,
> ~ jim
>
Hmmm. I don't think I explain things well. It's doesn't interfere with my regular sight, it's a different way of seeing. But coincidentally (or not, who knows), I have either a neurological or psychological (or both, who knows) problem with seeing faces in their entirety. I see bits and pieces of them. Could be social anxiety, or some Aspergerish thing. But because it interferes with my recognition of faces, I rely on other cues including this one.

Although honestly, I try to turn this one off unless I have some particular reason to focus on someone.

Whether it's what others would consider auras or just a sensitivity to nuance coupled with an unusual way of phrasing things I'm not sure. It's interesting to consider though. Thanks for answering. :)

Dinah

 

re: not auras

Posted by Dinah on August 24, 2003, at 21:06:36

In reply to re: auras, posted by Dinah on August 24, 2003, at 19:48:39

Looked it up a bit, saw the photos. What I see aren't auras.

Probably some sort of emotional energy coupled with a vivid and imagery focussed imagination. :)

 

re: auras » lil' jimi

Posted by rayww on August 25, 2003, at 8:20:20

In reply to re: auras » rayww, posted by lil' jimi on August 24, 2003, at 3:07:28

Thank you for expressing interest in the fact that I have support.

I have been surfing the aura channels on the net this morning, and am quite fascinated. I tried to view my own but didn't get far. It was all over the place, from very tall and distorted to one side, and then very small. I think it was my imagination, and I was trying too hard. Fun stuff though.

 

re: not auras » Dinah

Posted by lil' jimi on August 25, 2003, at 15:53:00

In reply to re: not auras, posted by Dinah on August 24, 2003, at 21:06:36

hi Dinah!

> Looked it up a bit, saw the photos. What I see aren't auras.
>
> Probably some sort of emotional energy coupled with a vivid and imagery focussed imagination. :)

... okay ... but i'd like to ask about ...
... "saw the photos" ...
... who knew ? (!) ... here i can't see auras ... while someone's _Taking Pictures_ (?) ... whoa !
... can we see the photos, too ? ... please ?

and i thought they weren't concrete ... !

thanks!
~ jim

 

re: not auras

Posted by Dinah on August 25, 2003, at 16:07:55

In reply to re: not auras » Dinah, posted by lil' jimi on August 25, 2003, at 15:53:00

just do an aura photo search. there are a million sites. looks like exposure problems to me, but what do I know. It's not like I'm a non-believer. I tend to believe that there is some sort of psychic or emotional energy that emanates from people.

 

re: not auras :: Thanks! (nm) » Dinah

Posted by lil' jimi on August 25, 2003, at 16:19:45

In reply to re: not auras, posted by Dinah on August 25, 2003, at 16:07:55

 

Re: I Dreamed My Teeth Were Falling Out

Posted by temmie on August 26, 2003, at 19:24:09

In reply to I Dreamed My Teeth Were Falling Out, posted by Temmie on August 19, 2003, at 2:51:03

... and then ... on August 22, flying out to CA, I took a bite of the granola bar the flight attendant offered -- and promptly broke one of my molars.

Hmmmm.

Smiling on the inside.

Temmie

 

~temmie

Posted by lil' jimi on August 26, 2003, at 20:47:32

In reply to Re: I Dreamed My Teeth Were Falling Out, posted by temmie on August 26, 2003, at 19:24:09

Ouch !!
so this can fit in with the dream?

i hope you're okay!
take care!
~ jim

 

Re: Buddhist practice: benefits

Posted by lil' jimi on September 4, 2003, at 1:39:01

In reply to Re: Buddhist practice: benefits, posted by lil' jimi on May 21, 2003, at 20:08:02

http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/neuro/Dalai_lama_brain.html

 

_Investigating the Mind_ with H. H. the Dalai Lama

Posted by lil' jimi on September 4, 2003, at 1:44:09

In reply to Re: Buddhist practice: benefits, posted by lil' jimi on September 4, 2003, at 1:39:01

please see ...

http://www.investigatingthemind.org/

peace,
~ jim

 

re: not auras » Dinah

Posted by lil' jimi on September 4, 2003, at 14:39:36

In reply to re: not auras, posted by Dinah on August 25, 2003, at 16:07:55

hi Dinah,

been thinking of you ....

you had written:
>> just do an aura photo search. there are a million sites. looks like exposure problems to me, but what do I know. ... >>

i hadn't done the search ... but when we spoke earlier about my voices ... ... it reminded me of this somehow ...
... so i did the search and checked out the 'aura photos' ...
... .... whoooossshh-A-moon-doH !!
... i had no idea ... what a trip!
... the scary thing to me was that among some totally harmless outfits were absolute scam artists ... to prey upon the suggestible ... i should have better imagined ... yikes!

... anyway, as i suspected, with minor exceptions, nothing i saw in any of the photographs resembled anything i've perceived as an aura ... ...
... ... at the same time, some of these photos were close to some descriptions of auras i have heard ...
... some of the _drawings_ i saw were close to my idealization of auras, although like nothing i've seen either ...

... you had asked if auras were concrete ...
... i thought, auras being such notoriously vaporous things, you were asking if they were definite and specific ... ... okay, i was stretching ... but i'm not sure i answered you then, and now i'm thinking that the answer is much more "no" then i had imagined ....

... chakras, and even more so auras, are organs of emotional preception ... and they are preceived by others auras ...

... there is a whole internal construction of our self-esteem, our self-image, our ego, ... which work to support our "face" ... ... rayww called it our 'countenance' ... our superfical bearing and demeanor ... many times it works as a protective mask ... (speaking for myself) ... whatever, it is the emotional interface we have with the world ... this is what i define as an aura ...

not to be too bold here, but you have exceptional perceptual ... ( i don't know if that's a word ... perceptional?) systems ...
(! Not that Mine are So Normal !)

... anyway, for as much as we are different, our means of perception are very divergent ...
... you don't converse with many people ...
... you don't preceive faces in composition ...
... you don't recognize people by their faces ...
... you don't hear (my and chicklet's) audio when you read ...

... ... all of which is not important, obviously, because you are a very intelligent, kind and effective person, despite these intense individual variations ... i think of them as your own blessings ... i suspect you have leveraged them to your benefit ...
.... and they have opened my eyes to how limited my view has been given my weakness to presume that i am "conventional" ... and to remind me that alternatives may be improvements too ...

"concrete" was giving way to more and more 'fluid' ... ... and then reckoning your way of perception (hypothetically speaking) ... ... this 'fluidity' spills over the falls of perception and explodes into structural / sculptural / visual poetry ...
... (if i may wax poetic for a moment) ... ?

... so given my theorizing about your perceptual estate, i just thought it might make sense that you might see auras differently ... i would say very differently ...

which is a long way to go for very little water ... sorry ...
... but i have been thinking about this ... and about how startling your posts about your perceptions can be for me, somtimes ... and it only came together for me just now ...

... i also want to tell you that however exceptional your systems of preception may be ...
... your vision of things here in pBabble city is an always kind and vivid blessing for the citizens of dear pBabblon ... ... i hope i may preceive as clearly as you ... someday ...

... of course, with all of that said ... they can just as easily still not be auras ... ...
... ... i just think they might be ... that's all ...
~ jim

 

re: not auras » lil' jimi

Posted by Dinah on September 5, 2003, at 16:57:16

In reply to re: not auras » Dinah, posted by lil' jimi on September 4, 2003, at 14:39:36

They might be. :) Or they might be another form of emotional energy I'm sensing. Thanks for putting so much thought into it. It obviously isn't an area where I've read or studied extensively. So I'm not sure how to describe seeing my husband as a pillar with currents of energy and sparks surrounding it. (grin)

I think maybe a lot of the differences are just the rather odd way I have of describing my experiences. But perhaps my experiences are rather odd to begin with, as well.

Thank you for your very kind words, Jim. I want you to know that I see you as a very supportive force on the board as well.

And congratulations on your retirement. (I'm counting down to mine. About twenty years to go!)


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