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re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: ~jim's results! » lil' jimi

Posted by trucker on July 27, 2003, at 14:57:28

In reply to re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: ~jim's results! » trucker, posted by lil' jimi on July 27, 2003, at 10:46:14

> i am a Buddhist ... a Mahayana Buddhist.
>
> how about you?
>
> ~ jim

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don't know much about buddist
i am christian of the bible the whole thing
trucker

we all have our own beleifs don't we? i really didn't see mine on the test.

 

re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: Belief~O~Trucker ! » trucker

Posted by lil' jimi on July 27, 2003, at 16:10:33

In reply to re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: ~jim's results! » lil' jimi, posted by trucker on July 27, 2003, at 14:57:28

you could write your own questions and make up a test and post it here and then see what kind of answers people give ... ...
... could be fun ...

... what question would seem to be missing ?

 

re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: Belief~O~Trucker ! » lil' jimi

Posted by trucker on July 27, 2003, at 16:53:44

In reply to re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: Belief~O~Trucker ! » trucker, posted by lil' jimi on July 27, 2003, at 16:10:33

> you could write your own questions and make up a test and post it here and then see what kind of answers people give ... ...
> ... could be fun ...
>
> ... what question would seem to be missing ?

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I HAVE FOUND THAT IT IS A GOOD CONVERSASATION NOT TO HAVE WHEN THERE ARE TWO OR MORE BELEIFS... NO OFFENCE! WHAT IS A BUDDIST? THIS IS PROBABLY SPELLED WRONG...

TRUCKER

 

re: :: Belief~O~Trucker ! :: » trucker

Posted by lil' jimi on July 27, 2003, at 17:59:20

In reply to re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: Belief~O~Trucker ! » lil' jimi, posted by trucker on July 27, 2003, at 16:53:44

> > you could write your own questions and make up a test and post it here and then see what kind of answers people give ... ...
> > ... could be fun ...
> >
> > ... what question would seem to be missing ?
>
> /////////////////////////////////////////////////
> I HAVE FOUND THAT IT IS A GOOD CONVERSASATION NOT TO HAVE WHEN THERE ARE TWO OR MORE BELEIFS... NO OFFENCE! WHAT IS A BUDDIST? THIS IS PROBABLY SPELLED WRONG...
>
> TRUCKER

i'd hope i was easy-going enough for it to be a good conversation, ... but that could depend on you, of course ...

i, the unqualified, would venture that one who believes in Enlightenment and believes Enlightenment is possible for humans,
... would be considered a buddhist ... ...

i pray to the buddha that i am not being graded on my spelling ... that's one of my beliefs ... HA!

peace,
~ jim

 

re: :: Belief~O~Trucker ! :: » lil' jimi

Posted by trucker on July 27, 2003, at 21:12:33

In reply to re: :: Belief~O~Trucker ! :: » trucker, posted by lil' jimi on July 27, 2003, at 17:59:20

> > > you could write your own questions and make up a test and post it here and then see what kind of answers people give ... ...
> > > ... could be fun ...
> > >
> > > ... what question would seem to be missing ?
> >
> > /////////////////////////////////////////////////
> > I HAVE FOUND THAT IT IS A GOOD CONVERSASATION NOT TO HAVE WHEN THERE ARE TWO OR MORE BELEIFS... NO OFFENCE! WHAT IS A BUDDIST? THIS IS PROBABLY SPELLED WRONG...
> >
> > TRUCKER
>
> i'd hope i was easy-going enough for it to be a good conversation, ... but that could depend on you, of course ...
>
> i, the unqualified, would venture that one who believes in Enlightenment and believes Enlightenment is possible for humans,
> ... would be considered a buddhist ... ...
>
> i pray to the buddha that i am not being graded on my spelling ... that's one of my beliefs ... HA!
>
> peace,
> ~ jim
>
>

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EASY GOING YES, BUT SEE I DON'T LIKE TO HAVE CONVERSASTIONS ON RELIGION, BECAUSE WE ALL HAVE A FAITH OF SORTS AND WE ALL BELEIVE THAT OURS IS THE RIGHT ONE. SO I DON'T GET INVOLVED IN THAT TOPIC TO MUCH EXCEPT TO LEARN ABOUT THE DIFFERENT RELIGIONS. mine is from the HOLY BIBLE, i beleive in JESUS, and i usually get attacked for that beleif. so rather than destoy a budding poster relationship with any of you, i just stay back from it...

hope you understand.
trucker

 

re: ours is the right one

Posted by Dr. Bob on July 27, 2003, at 22:27:18

In reply to re: :: Belief~O~Trucker ! :: » lil' jimi, posted by trucker on July 27, 2003, at 21:12:33

> WE ALL HAVE A FAITH OF SORTS AND WE ALL BELEIVE THAT OURS IS THE RIGHT ONE.

I think it's interesting, how believing it's *the* (one and only) right one does sometimes seem to be part of it...

Bob

 

re: :: Belief~O~Trucker ! :: » trucker

Posted by lil' jimi on July 27, 2003, at 22:31:03

In reply to re: :: Belief~O~Trucker ! :: » lil' jimi, posted by trucker on July 27, 2003, at 21:12:33

well, i would be the last one to attack anybody's belief's ...
. .... (not to mention that such attacks are forbidden here) ....

.... but i have every respect for your desire to not go into ...
... as you wish, my poster buddy!
~ jim

 

re: ours is the right one

Posted by Dinah on July 28, 2003, at 4:56:31

In reply to re: ours is the right one, posted by Dr. Bob on July 27, 2003, at 22:27:18

> > WE ALL HAVE A FAITH OF SORTS AND WE ALL BELEIVE THAT OURS IS THE RIGHT ONE.
>
> I think it's interesting, how believing it's *the* (one and only) right one does sometimes seem to be part of it...
>
> Bob

You find that interesting, Dr. Bob? I sort of thought that's what "faith" is. And that it takes a conscious effort to remind ourselves otherwise. Either that, or my "faith" is rather circumscribed to the basics and I'm pretty open to the particulars. (In other words, my faith in any given religion is not that strong.) One of the two.

But perhaps your apparent surprise explains the faith board, with all its many and sundry traps for the unwary. :)

 

re: Oops. Above is only for Dr. Bob, really. (nm)

Posted by Dinah on July 28, 2003, at 4:57:13

In reply to re: ours is the right one, posted by Dinah on July 28, 2003, at 4:56:31

 

re: ours is the right one » Dr. Bob

Posted by lil' jimi on July 28, 2003, at 11:51:05

In reply to re: ours is the right one, posted by Dr. Bob on July 27, 2003, at 22:27:18

hi Bob,

trucker wrote:
>>> WE ALL HAVE A FAITH OF SORTS AND WE ALL BELEIVE THAT OURS IS THE RIGHT ONE.

And you've responded:
>> I think it's interesting, how believing it's *the* (one and only) right one does sometimes seem to be part of it...

i agree with both you and what Dinah has posted: It is not surprising, but it is interesting ...

(all of my comments are to refer to NO Specific RELIGION(S) and
NO Offense is intended to any Non-Specific RELIGION(S), PLEASE. ... ... please ?)

to make Dinah’s point(s) (forgive me Dinah, for i know not what i do),
... it is not unexpected that the True Believer of the True Religion would tend toward exclusivity and endogamy ... ... compromise being contradictory to the idea of the Absolute for some folks ... ... and to the specific exclusion of all of the “False Believers” in those “False Religions” ... and we may expect that the enforcing of the orthodox doctrine(s) gives rise to the harsher sanctions against heresy ... ... this is certainly the common path for the Devout in their Devotion ...

... for the Fundamentalists of whichever stripe, steeped the One True Faith, it is virtually inescapable that the rest of the world (and all other religions) look(s) like delusion(s) peopled by the deluded ... all of which would seem to pose a peril to the Faithful ...

(mightn’t we expect that the bull-urine-bathers of the Zoroastrianism would exercise similar intolerance(s) ?)

what i believe makes this an interesting phenomena is that there are examples (of world religions) where this common feature does not obtain, but we may believe that nearly every religion would have its fundamentalists who might not endorse such inclusiveness and openness ... ...

( ... i now feel that this contribution has come to its end ... ... for fear that one might transgress, not only on our civility, but on our fellow posters’ religious feelings, and i do not want, nor you need, that ... ... the tenderness of the subject demands (i feel) being even less specific (less pointed) than i might have been headed for here, lest any one be ... offended.)

i will say that i find it easy and comfortable to be accepting of others’ religious beliefs ... ... even when they have difficulty with mine ... ... that said, what i do find difficult, for me, is tolerating / indulging attacks and tirades against any persons of faith for their faith ... and this is all too common in our less-than-civil world of exteriority.

May All Hearts Hope,
~ jim

 

re: many and sundry traps

Posted by Dr. Bob on July 28, 2003, at 22:31:05

In reply to re: ours is the right one, posted by Dinah on July 28, 2003, at 4:56:31

> perhaps your apparent surprise explains the faith board, with all its many and sundry traps for the unwary. :)

But no longer, at least, for the wary? :-)

Bob

 

re: ours is the right one

Posted by Tabitha on July 29, 2003, at 3:11:46

In reply to re: ours is the right one, posted by Dinah on July 28, 2003, at 4:56:31

while I was browsing beliefnet after taking the quiz, I found this interesting article.

http://www.randomhouse.com/features/chopra/everyday/excerpt.html

It says basically we can't know god directly, but we can experience the presence of god in different ways. He lists seven different ways, including the authority figure god, the creative god, the peaceful god, etc. I guess it's kind of like the blind men and the elephant story.

I thought this was a nice way to reconcile how people have such different ideas of god, and how they can all be correct, even if there's only one god.

Now why people are inclined to get adamant that their idea is the most correct one, I don't know.

 

Re: :: Belief-O-Matic ::

Posted by MissouriGal on July 29, 2003, at 14:29:38

In reply to :: Belief-O-Matic ::, posted by lil' jimi on July 12, 2003, at 2:08:24

> ..... ..... Belief-O-Matic ..... .....
>
> http://www.beliefnet.com/story/76/story_7665_1.html
>
> It's simple!
> It's perplexing!
> It's multiple-choice!
> Will it tell you what religion you are? ... ...
>
> Just take the Belief-O-Matic survey
> and
> then post back here what your results were!

I know, I'm late in on this, but I just found this site today. I found this thread interesting, and I took the quiz, just to see what it would show. Don't know about others' result, but for me it is pretty much on the mark. Here are the results I got:

1. Neo-Pagan (100%)
2. New Age (95%)
3. Unitarian Universalism (84%)
4. Mahayana Buddhism (78%)
5. New Thought (76%)
6. Liberal Quakers (72%)
7. Hinduism (71%)
8. Scientology (69%)
9. Reform Judaism (69%)
10. Jainism (66%)
11. Sikhism (61%)
12. Theravada Buddhism (59%)
13. Taoism (57%)
14. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (54%)
15. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (54%)
16. Bahá'í Faith (53%)
17. Secular Humanism (49%)
18. Orthodox Judaism (46%)
19. Orthodox Quaker (40%)
20. Islam (37%)
21. Nontheist (26%)
22. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (19%)
23. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (18%)
24. Seventh Day Adventist (16%)
25. Eastern Orthodox (12%)
26. Roman Catholic (12%)
27. Jehovah's Witness (9%)


 

re: ours is the right one » Tabitha

Posted by lil' jimi on July 31, 2003, at 9:12:37

In reply to re: ours is the right one, posted by Tabitha on July 29, 2003, at 3:11:46

hi Tabitha!

you have written:
> while I was browsing beliefnet after taking the quiz, I found this interesting article.
>
> http://www.randomhouse.com/features/chopra/everyday/excerpt.html
>
> It says basically we can't know god directly, but we can experience the presence of god in different ways. He lists seven different ways, including the authority figure god, the creative god, the peaceful god, etc. I guess it's kind of like the blind men and the elephant story.
>
> I thought this was a nice way to reconcile how people have such different ideas of god, and how they can all be correct, even if there's only one god.
>
> Now why people are inclined to get adamant that their idea is the most correct one, I don't know.

... i thank you for your contribution here ... i have been meaning to post how much i appreciated your post ... it is BEAUTIFUL ... and you write so well ... very clear and relaxed ... i wish my posts as direct and lucid ... you have inspired me ... and it has taken me from when you posted to now, trying to figure out how to express how much i like your post ... ... so i gave up and posted this instead ...

... ... anyway, THANKS!
~ jim

p.s. if you took the quiz, did it reflect your beliefs?

 

re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: » MissouriGal

Posted by lil' jimi on July 31, 2003, at 9:34:38

In reply to Re: :: Belief-O-Matic ::, posted by MissouriGal on July 29, 2003, at 14:29:38

hi, MissouriGal!

Hope you had fun! .... .... no way to be too late here ... always glad to have your participation ... ... i thank you for it ...

i find your rankings very close to mine, Mercury's, Habby's and some others of us here ... ... interesting to me ...

thanks again,
~ jim

 

re: many and sundry traps » Dr. Bob

Posted by lil' jimi on July 31, 2003, at 9:57:38

In reply to re: many and sundry traps, posted by Dr. Bob on July 28, 2003, at 22:31:05

> > perhaps your apparent surprise explains the faith board, with all its many and sundry traps for the unwary. :)
>
> But no longer, at least, for the wary? :-)
>
> Bob

Yeah, i agree ... ... but it is because i have become one of
"the wary" ...

... ... we can learn to be Both
_Civil_,
and
_Adamantine-as-diamond_,
if we have to ... ...

... ... sometimes this means we must exercise the wisdom of silence ...

i have been learning, anyway ...
one can exercise loving-kindness while being fairly tough .. ... ..

although this CAN be a new lesson for the unwary ...

~ jim

 

re: ours is the right one » lil' jimi

Posted by Tabitha on July 31, 2003, at 13:08:12

In reply to re: ours is the right one » Tabitha, posted by lil' jimi on July 31, 2003, at 9:12:37

Wow, thank you Jimi, how very kind. I just loved the ideas in that article.

I didn't save the Belief-o-matic results, but it was something like this...
Unitarian Universalist 100%
Reformed Judaism
Liberal Quaker

I took it once a few months ago and it came out differently.

 

re: ours is the right one » Tabitha

Posted by lil' jimi on July 31, 2003, at 15:09:07

In reply to re: ours is the right one » lil' jimi, posted by Tabitha on July 31, 2003, at 13:08:12

hi Tabitha,

> Wow, thank you Jimi, how very kind. I just loved the ideas in that article.
>
> I didn't save the Belief-o-matic results, but it was something like this...
> Unitarian Universalist 100%
> Reformed Judaism
> Liberal Quaker
>
> I took it once a few months ago and it came out differently.


... my pleasure and you're welcome ! ... ... your posts always have an effortless grace i have to strive for, yet never attain ... too much striving ... ... so, i'm jealous! HA!
Thanks again for your reply ...
... i still don't think i'm a Unitarian Universalist myself ... i like that the results can change ...
... and Deepak Chopra's article is beautiful ...

TAKE CARE !!
~ jim

p.s. i have to remind myself to let posters of our good posts know how much they are appreciated ... ... you are appreciated! thank you ... ~ j

 

re: many and sundry traps » Dr. Bob

Posted by trucker on August 14, 2003, at 23:00:10

In reply to re: many and sundry traps, posted by Dr. Bob on July 28, 2003, at 22:31:05

> > perhaps your apparent surprise explains the faith board, with all its many and sundry traps for the unwary. :)
>
> But no longer, at least, for the wary? :-)
>
> Bob

///////////////////////////////////////////////
BOB
do you read all these posts? some are really sensitive subjects we wouldn't share with our doctor, guess that is why you have this here board.... as for faith ..... all we can do is pray for those we think are in the wrong religion and let the LORD sort them out!!!! ha!

 

Re: :: Belief-O-Matic ::

Posted by Upshutter on August 15, 2003, at 5:39:14

In reply to :: Belief-O-Matic ::, posted by lil' jimi on July 12, 2003, at 2:08:24

Hi new here but I was curious and played along with it....hope you don't mind. My results were:
1. Eastern Orthodox (100%)
2. Roman Catholic (100%)
3. Orthodox Quaker (95%)
4. Orthodox Judaism (87%)
5. Seventh Day Adventist (86%)
6. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (81%)
7. Islam (79%)
8. Hinduism (78%)
9. Sikhism (77%)
10. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (75%)
11. Jehovah's Witness (75%)
12. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (65%)
13. Jainism (64%)
14. Bahá'í Faith (60%)
15. Liberal Quakers (56%)
16. Reform Judaism (50%)
17. Theravada Buddhism (41%)
18. Mahayana Buddhism (40%)
19. Unitarian Universalism (39%)
20. Taoism (27%) 21. Neo-Pagan (20%)
22. Secular Humanism (16%)
23. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (14%)
24. New Age (14%)
25. Scientology (14%)
26. Nontheist (13%)
27. New Thought (8%)

That's pretty good, I'm Catholic.

 

re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: » Upshutter

Posted by lil' jimi on August 15, 2003, at 9:04:46

In reply to Re: :: Belief-O-Matic ::, posted by Upshutter on August 15, 2003, at 5:39:14

hi there, Upshutter!

your contribution :
> Hi new here but I was curious and played along with it....hope you don't mind. My results were:
> 1. Eastern Orthodox (100%)
> 2. Roman Catholic (100%)
> 3. Orthodox Quaker (95%)
> 4. Orthodox Judaism (87%)
> 5. Seventh Day Adventist (86%)
> 6. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (81%)
> 7. Islam (79%)
> 8. Hinduism (78%)
> 9. Sikhism (77%)
> 10. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (75%)
... .... .... ...
> 26. Nontheist (13%)
> 27. New Thought (8%)
>
> That's pretty good, I'm Catholic.

.... .... Of Course, I don't mind! ... ... nobody here would ever mind!
.... .... Glad to have you!
.... .... And Welcome, new friend!

thanks for playing our little Belief-O-Matic game and favoring us with your rankings!

i have found i have a favorable impression of the quiz's ability to make discrete distinctions among folks' faiths ... ... not too shabby.

i really appreciate your post here and come back and play again .... anytime!

welcome again and take care!
~ jim

 

re: :: Belief-O-Matic ::

Posted by Upshutter on August 15, 2003, at 18:55:11

In reply to re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: » Upshutter, posted by lil' jimi on August 15, 2003, at 9:04:46

Thanks jim, I guess I have officially been welcomed here...:) Neato

 

re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: » Upshutter

Posted by lil' jimi on August 15, 2003, at 19:31:46

In reply to re: :: Belief-O-Matic ::, posted by Upshutter on August 15, 2003, at 18:55:11

> Thanks jim, I guess I have officially been welcomed here...:) Neato
>

and i guess you've promoted me to an official ... ... nah!
... ... but i'd say that here in pBabble land, an unoffical welcome is the "official" welcome ... ...
... oh, never mind that ... ... you are more than welcomed !!...
... ... especially if you'll put up with my ramblings! HA!

enjoy,
~ jim

p.s have to read the other pBab boards?
~ j

 

re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: Jim

Posted by Upshutter on August 15, 2003, at 23:56:33

In reply to re: :: Belief-O-Matic :: » Upshutter, posted by lil' jimi on August 15, 2003, at 19:31:46

I have been at the social and psycho babble boards. I am glad I found this one though! :) Seems like I'll be here a lot more.

 

re: Belief-O-Matic results vs.church (long) » lil' jimi

Posted by rayww on August 21, 2003, at 10:36:11

In reply to re: Belief-O-Matic results vs.church (long) » Mercury, posted by lil' jimi on July 14, 2003, at 14:51:25

In reading some of Mercury's posts I stumbled across this one of yours. All I can say, at this point, is you are completely justified in your belief. Keep searching, and I'm sure you will eventually find all you are looking for. As in a court of law, examine the evidence and look for witnesses. What things denote a divine creator? What is the evidence, and who are the witnesses? Define truth, and its witness. What are the evidences of evil? Discern between the two. Is there a fine line between right and wrong, true and false, kind and mean? If so, discern it and figure out the sorting on your own. You certainly have the ability and the understanding, even the wisdom.


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