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The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 5

Posted by Lou Pilder on October 4, 2002, at 11:09:17

In reply to The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 4, posted by Lou Pilder on October 4, 2002, at 9:42:02

Friends,
One of us asked who He was. He said, "I am the Light of the World. He thet follows me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the Light of Life. I speak not of myself, for it is the Father that dwells in me, He does the works."
Lou

 

The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 6

Posted by Lou Pilder on October 4, 2002, at 21:13:17

In reply to The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 5, posted by Lou Pilder on October 4, 2002, at 11:09:17

Friends,
He continued, "You have heard The Word of God and I come after His order and affirm evrything that He has said to you to be the truth. He is the Father and He dwells in Me and can dwell in you also. If you receive me, you receive Him also and as many of you that receive Me, you will have the power to became sons of God. Beleive Me that the Father dwells in Me and I in Him and We will come in and make our abode with you. You will be born from above."
Lou

 

The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 7

Posted by Lou Pilder on October 4, 2002, at 21:30:13

In reply to The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 6, posted by Lou Pilder on October 4, 2002, at 21:13:17

Friends,
One asked what He meant by what He said about receiving Him. He answered, " You have heard the Word of God. If you believe what He said, then you receive Him and Me also. It is not the hearers , but the doers that beleive. The devil believes and trembles. If you receive Me, then you will receive all that The Word of God has spoken to you and you will do it. For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosever Believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life."
Lou

 

The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 8

Posted by Lou Pilder on October 5, 2002, at 7:12:54

In reply to The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 7, posted by Lou Pilder on October 4, 2002, at 21:30:13

Friends,
He continued and asked us, "Who do you think that I am?"
One answered, "You are the Word made flesh and are the Anointed One told to come by the prophets."
He answred, "No man can reveal that to you, but only My Father which is in heaven can reveal that to you. If you follow Me, you will be hated of all men, but you will overcome and be given The Crown of Life. And do not fear them that can kill the body, but fear Him that can destroy both body and soul in hell."
Lou

 

Re: The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 8

Posted by Lou Pilder on October 5, 2002, at 8:01:33

In reply to The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 8, posted by Lou Pilder on October 5, 2002, at 7:12:54

Friends,
One said, "The prophets have told that you would establish a kingdom." He said to us, "My Kingdom is not of this world. Love not the world or the things in the world. For the wisdom of the world is foolishness with God. Beware that anyone take your mind captive through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men and the world and not according to The Word of God."
Lou

 

The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 9

Posted by Lou Pilder on October 7, 2002, at 6:37:44

In reply to Re: The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 8, posted by Lou Pilder on October 5, 2002, at 8:01:33

Friends,
He continued about the world saying, "If you were of the world, the world would love you. But because you are not of the world, the world hates you. They will put you out of he gathering places of worship and whoever does evil to you will think that they are doing God a service. But I must go away now to the Father who sent me, for if I do not go to the Father then the Spirt of God could not come to you and dwell in you. But if I depart, I will send the Spirit to you."
Lou

 

The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 10

Posted by Lou Pilder on October 8, 2002, at 19:06:10

In reply to The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 9, posted by Lou Pilder on October 7, 2002, at 6:37:44

Friends,
He continued, "God is love. He that dwells in love dwells in God and God in him. You become one spirit. For the Father loves you. This I have spoken to you so that you will have peace. In the world you will have tribulation, but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world."
Lou

 

The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 11

Posted by Lou Pilder on October 8, 2002, at 19:42:18

In reply to The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 10, posted by Lou Pilder on October 8, 2002, at 19:06:10

Friends,
He continued, "Hearby is the Way that you can dwell in God and God dwell in you. Whoso keeps the Words that the Word of God has spoken to you, in him is the love of God pefected, and you know that you are in Him and He in you.
God is light and there is no darkness at all in Him. He who loves his brother, walks in the light and dwells in God."
Lou

 

The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 12

Posted by Lou Pilder on October 8, 2002, at 19:48:31

In reply to The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 11, posted by Lou Pilder on October 8, 2002, at 19:42:18

Friends,
He continued, "You will be imprisoned by people that are of the world. But you will overcome and receive the Crown of Life; for greater is He that is in you than he that is in the world."
Lou

 

The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 13

Posted by lou pilder on October 10, 2002, at 18:54:57

In reply to The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 12, posted by Lou Pilder on October 8, 2002, at 19:48:31

Friends,
He continued, "You can have God be pleased with you."
One asked , "How can we please God?" He answered, "Have faith, for without faith it is impossible to please God." Another asked, "How can we get this faith?" He answered, " Faith comes to you by hearing the Word of God. You heard what the Rider on the White Horse said to you. If you beleive what He said, then God will be well-pleased and count you as rightious."
Lou

 

The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 14

Posted by lou pilder on October 10, 2002, at 19:06:29

In reply to The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 13, posted by lou pilder on October 10, 2002, at 18:54:57

Friends,
He continued, " I am the Word that became flesh and I am the vine and My Father is the vine-dresser.You are branches and evry branch that bears fruit, My Father will purge and you will bring forth more fruit. Now you are clean through the Word of God that was spoken to you. If a man does not abide in me, he is cast off the vine and men gather them and they are burned in the fire. God commands you to love others as He has loved us. Greater love has no man than this, that he lay down his life for his friends."
Lou

 

The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 15

Posted by lou pilder on October 10, 2002, at 19:17:37

In reply to The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 14, posted by lou pilder on October 10, 2002, at 19:06:29

Friends,
He continued, "You are my friends, if you do what The Word of God has said to you. From now on , I call you friends instead of servants, for all things that My Father has said to me I will reveal to you. I have chosen you so that you can bring forth fruit. Again, follow God's command to love one another."
Lou

 

The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 16

Posted by lou pilder on October 10, 2002, at 19:32:15

In reply to The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 15, posted by lou pilder on October 10, 2002, at 19:17:37

Friends,
One asked, "How does this love come to us?" He answered, "If you dwell in God , God will dwell in you. God is light. Walk in the light instead of the darkness. God is spirit. Walk in the spirit instead of the flesh. God is love and not fear. Follow the Word of God and God's love casts out all fear.
Lou

 

Hmmm...Anyone Else Remember This? lou pilder

Posted by Cam W. on October 11, 2002, at 0:43:15

In reply to The 7th Gate-Dwelling in God-part 16, posted by lou pilder on October 10, 2002, at 19:32:15

Way back when all this started, I seem to remember someone saying this:

"I have nothing to do with any religion...."

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20020202/msgs/17944.html

Luuuccy, jou have some splainin' to do!

- Cam

 

Lou's answer to CamW's post Cam W.

Posted by lou pilder on October 11, 2002, at 7:43:41

In reply to Hmmm...Anyone Else Remember This? lou pilder, posted by Cam W. on October 11, 2002, at 0:43:15

CamW,
For the past 10 months, you have been reading what I have posted about the experiance that I had tht transformed me in a way that I was able to overcome addiction and depression. The experiance that I had had nothing to do with belonging to a religion. In fact, I have been ostracised from religions. My friends and family have shunned me for telling them about my experiance. People have derided me and scorned me for telling them my experiance. Internet forums have prevented me from telling my experiance on their electronic boards. Yet today, I consider myself to be the luckiest man on the face of the earth.
Lou

 

Lou's answer to CamW's post-part 2

Posted by lou pilder on October 11, 2002, at 8:28:01

In reply to Lou's answer to CamW's post Cam W., posted by lou pilder on October 11, 2002, at 7:43:41

CamW,
It was revealed to me that the experiance that I had could be experianced by anyone. For the experiance was a spiritual experiance. Any one could experiance a Rider on a White Horse.The person's religious affiliation has nothing to do with receiving the experiance.
The Rider on the White Horse was the Word of God and the Word can dwell in anyone, regardless of their religious affiliation, or no affiliation at all. I have met people that have experianced the Word by hearing the Word. But a deaf person could hear the Word, for the Word is spiritually decerned. People have told me that they heard the Word in a cloud, or a fire, or in a dream, or a song, or that they had an encounter with a person and they said that the person was God clothed in a human body. This is called a theophany. Some of the religions of the world referr to their founder as being a man named Abraham. And they tell of Abraham being visited by a high priest from Salem that had no beggining or end. Some say that the man was God in a human body. These religions believe that God can visit you in a human body. And when I was in The City of Peace, I saw a Rider on a White Horse and He said to me, "Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He shall dwell with them. And God will wipe away all tears from their eyes, and there shall be no more death, niether sorrow, nor crying, nor pain, for the former things will pass away." And He said to me, "Tell of these words, for they are true. I am the Alpha and the Omega. I wil give to him that thirsts the Water of Life freely. He that overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son. But the fearfull, and murderers, the abominable, and the pharmakeia and all those that are liars shall have their part in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone which is the Second Death."
Lou

 

A important explanation of the word-pharmkeia

Posted by lou pilder on October 11, 2002, at 9:18:19

In reply to Lou's answer to CamW's post-part 2, posted by lou pilder on October 11, 2002, at 8:28:01

Friends,
The word that I heard the Rider say was -pharmakeia. I later made an inquiery into this word and here is what I found out. First, the word is a Greek word, which our word pharmacy comes from. Also the word pharmakeus, pharmakon and pharmakos. I reserched the word through Greek language experts. My focus, here, is in the use in the Rider's statemet that the pharmakeia will have their part in the Lake of Fire, which is the second death. The following is what I have found out about the word, "pharmakeia"
Lou

 

A important explanation of the word-pharmkeia-(2)

Posted by lou pilder on October 11, 2002, at 9:25:51

In reply to A important explanation of the word-pharmkeia, posted by lou pilder on October 11, 2002, at 9:18:19

Friends,
In reserching the use of drugs, I found out that drugs have been used for 5000 years or so to alter a person's mind. Drunkeness is also having your mind altered, sometimes for a short time and sometimes for a long time. People have been altering their minds with wine and such since recording in the bible the account of Noah who planted a vinyard after the ark came to rest and he got drunk, possibly accidental.
Lou

 

A important explanation of the word-pharmkeia-(3)

Posted by lou pilder on October 11, 2002, at 9:34:57

In reply to A important explanation of the word-pharmkeia-(2), posted by lou pilder on October 11, 2002, at 9:25:51

Friends,
Now marijuana evidence has been discovered in tombs thousands of years old and has been used to alter the minds of paid murders thousnds of years ago. The word "assassin" comes from the name of the marijuana used back then called "hashish." The ancient Sumarians used opium thousands of years ago. Now I am getting to the use of the word,"pharmakeia" by the Rider in reference to drug use and these pharmakeians being cast into the lake of fire which the Rider said is the second death.
Lou

 

A important explanation of the word-pharmkeia-(4)

Posted by lou pilder on October 11, 2002, at 9:59:53

In reply to A important explanation of the word-pharmkeia-(3), posted by lou pilder on October 11, 2002, at 9:34:57

Friends,
I found out in my reserch about the Greek word-pharmakeia, that the word appears in the bible as the word, "sorcerer". And in my reserch I found out that a "sorcerer" was someone going back 3000 years or more, that used drugs to alter a person's mind. Hallucinogenic drugs such as marijuana, halluciogenic mushrooms, opium, and other substances were avaiable to the anciant peoples. And a dirivative of cocain has been found in the body of an Egyptian mummy over 3000 years old sugessting that Egyptians of that era travled to South America and brought back the cocoa leaves, since the cocoa plant is not native to Egypt. But, the plant could have florished in Egypt 3000 years ago. There is evidence that the ancient Egyptians used drugs for medicine and pain relief. In my study of the word pharmakeia, the use of drugs to relieve pain is not grouped with the use of drugs to alter the mind. In my reserch of the use of the word "pharmakeia", I have found that the use of the word, as translated "sorcerer" is confined to the use of drugs to alter the mind in a spacific manner.
Lou

 

A important explanation of the word-pharmkeia-(5)

Posted by lou pilder on October 11, 2002, at 10:50:55

In reply to A important explanation of the word-pharmkeia-(4), posted by lou pilder on October 11, 2002, at 9:59:53

Friends,
In my study of the word,"pharmakeia", I wanted to know what the Rider was referring to when He said that the pharmakeia would be cast into the Lake of Fire which is the second death. I reserched and found out that there are religions, historically, that requirere one to take mood or mind-altering drugs in order to communicate with their diety. So I remebererd when I had asked the Rider when I was in te City of Peace who the pharmakeia were. He said, "Walk in he spirit, not in the flesh, for these are contrary to one another." I asked, "What are the works of the flesh?" He answered, "The works of the flesh are: adultery, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jelous outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, envy, murders, drunkenness, and those that practice such things will not inherit the Kingdom of God. For the fruit of the spirit is love, joy , peace, longsuffeing, kindnes, gentleness, self-control, and if you are living in the spirit, walk in the spirit and you will not fullfill the lust of the flesh."
Lou

 

important explanation of the word-pharmakeia-(5)

Posted by lou pilder on October 11, 2002, at 11:52:43

In reply to A important explanation of the word-pharmkeia-(5), posted by lou pilder on October 11, 2002, at 10:50:55

Friends,
In my research and rememberance of my experiance, I found some other meanings of the word "pharmakeia" and who the "pharmakeia" are that are cast into the Lake of Fire which is the second death.
When I heard The Word of God, He said to me, "Some of you were once sorcerers, but when you changed your mind to having the mind of God, you were cleansed of your past and you are a whole new creation and your old self has passed away. Put on the new man and have the mind of God in you and you will ovrcome the works of the flesh. He who overcomes will receive the Crown of Life."
Lou

 

important explanation of the word-pharmakeia-(6)

Posted by lou pilder on October 11, 2002, at 12:48:37

In reply to important explanation of the word-pharmakeia-(5), posted by lou pilder on October 11, 2002, at 11:52:43

Friends,
I asked the Rider for some further explanation about "sorcerers" and the lake of fire, for I considered it to be a very serious matter and I did no want to be cast into the lake of fire. He said to me, "Lou, make your body a living sacrifice to God. And be not conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind and put on the new man which was created in rightiousness and holiness."
Lou

 

Lou

Posted by Cam W. on October 11, 2002, at 13:07:43

In reply to important explanation of the word-pharmakeia-(6), posted by lou pilder on October 11, 2002, at 12:48:37

Where is this drama taking place. Is itplaying out in a physical place? Is all this happening in your mind. I am very curious as to which physical senses you are/were using when you had this revelation. Where were you (physically) when these revelations occurred to you (eg. while asleep; just upon waking or falling asleep; at work; in the middle of the street; etc.)

Sorry, I am still trying to figure out why the story is written in a style similar to that used by many of the organized religious sects of the world, but the message is not supposed to be religious? Could you help me with this?

Oh, and could you answer in one post; I find clicking from post to post very annoying. Thanks, Cam.

 

The Rider's answer to taking mind--altering drugs

Posted by lou pilder on October 11, 2002, at 13:12:42

In reply to important explanation of the word-pharmakeia-(6), posted by lou pilder on October 11, 2002, at 12:48:37

Friends,
I asked the Word of God what an alterative would be to taking mood or mind-altering drugs. He answered, "If you be in tribulation, seek God with all your heart and you will find Him. And be obediant to His voice and He will not forsake you. For each day you have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: thearfore choose life, for God is life."
Lou


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