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Post by Tom Grimes

Posted by Dr. Bob on March 8, 2004, at 20:43:34

Hi, everyone,

Just wanted to point out, in case you missed it, his post above:

Any comments or questions for him?



Re: Post by Tom Grimes

Posted by sjb on March 9, 2004, at 9:10:52

In reply to Post by Tom Grimes, posted by Dr. Bob on March 8, 2004, at 20:43:34

Your post on the melding of the bi-polars was interesting. Where are the modern Handel's? Is there anyone out there today writing some extraordinary musical piece, in like, 7 days without sleep, etc? Yet, there are more diagnosises. (I don't know how to pluralize diagnosis.) I was diagnosed with BPII by more than a few PDoc and am skeptical. I don't have much mania, don't spend much, have no interest in sex, whatsover, and I certainly ain't writing anything that would be mistaken for the Messiah.

As for the chicken and the egg, any mania I have had, such as fast talking, racing thoughts, grand plans and dreams (that NEVER happen), well, these seem to come after starting or going off meds.

It seems to me that once you've entered a psychiatrist's office and that pad gets picked up and scralled on, you've entered another world of no return. I think of this every time I hear the song by the Eagles, "Hotel California". " . . you can check out any time you'd like, but you can never leave." I sure hope I'm wrong.

How do you find the discipline to write your books? I cannot concentrate for long periods of time and I know this is common symptom of depressiion. Do you think you just overcome it by sheer talent, intellectually?

I'm looking forward to reading your book. Thank you for taking the time to be here as a guest.


Re: Post by Tom Grimes Dr. Bob

Posted by noa on March 9, 2004, at 17:32:38

In reply to Post by Tom Grimes, posted by Dr. Bob on March 8, 2004, at 20:43:34

Argghh--I wish I had already read your book. I read slowly and am getting slowly through a book that I'm enjoying, and just haven't had enough lead time to buy, let alone read " A Medicated Memoir", yet. But I want to!!

I think there is flux in the art and science of diagnosis. On a clinical level, I think a lot of pdocs use diagnosis based on symptoms as a place to start, but mostly are interested in which meds, based on symptoms, will help the most and harm the least (or at least this is what the good pdocs do). Going by symptoms is a trial and error business, still. And it crosses diagnostic catergories a lot.

Sometimes, this leads researcher types to wonder if there are underlying connections between diagnoses previously seen as separate entities. But the science is still not sophisticated enough to know what is underlying the symptoms in most types of MI. There are hypotheses out there, and some are very interesting and plausible.

But in the doc's office we patients are still working on the trial and error method of symptom treatment. It is possible that a person's depression is in the bipolar family and maybe that is also related to siezure disorders or migraines, etc. but what matters most is does medicine A help? B? A combo of A and B? Some pdocs then use the response to meds as a diagnostic tool, but this seems shaky to me in most cases because not enough is known about what is really going on deep inside those noggins of ours.


Re: Information Sickness--Tom Grimes

Posted by noa on March 9, 2004, at 17:35:31

In reply to Re: Post by Tom Grimes Dr. Bob, posted by noa on March 9, 2004, at 17:32:38

Information Sickness--great theme!! I often feel extremely plagued by IS.

And that is cool--the association with "is"---existence.

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