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Re: invitation to help set the tone here

Posted by Dr. Bob on March 3, 2008, at 3:31:27

In reply to 3 Minute Depression Cure deceptive marketing., posted by jonnycomelately on February 29, 2008, at 21:29:09

> It seems that deceptive practises are being used
>
> There are half a dozen hubpost pages by "JR_King" that don't ring true

I might think the above could lead others (such as Mike) to feel accused or put down:

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil

but I'd like to try something a little different and invite posters to take a larger role in maintaining the supportive nature of this site. If you think the above is an issue, too, could you use the "notify administrators" button to let us know? As usual, we'll keep to ourselves who if anyone notifies us. And further discussion should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration. Thanks,

Bob

 

Re: Advertised 3 Minute Depression Cure valid?

Posted by KeepinOn on May 4, 2008, at 18:13:57

In reply to Advertised 3 Minute Depression Cure valid?, posted by blueberry on November 28, 2006, at 21:03:38

I just saw his site for the first time a few days ago, but it turned out great because searching for it again is how I found this site!

I am suspicious, not of people who are selling something, but people who are not upfront that they are selling something and/or secretive about what they are selling, and although I was curious, his site set off all my caution alerts.

I'd be interested in hearing some positive feedback. Sadly, many businesses use employees, friends, and/or family to post glowing testimonials, but again there is good news - Dr. Bob has made registering so challenging, (or was that just me??? *lol*), that I don't think too many of them would go through the process here. Thanks, Dr. Bob! *smile*

 

3 Minute Cure valid? TheTrouble with Dr. Bob

Posted by diablo esquire on May 5, 2008, at 2:34:58

In reply to Re: Advertised 3 Minute Depression Cure valid?, posted by KeepinOn on May 4, 2008, at 18:13:57

I havn't reviewed all the contextual framework for this site at least recently, hope I'm not exceeding any guidelines by pointing out the obvious that this site is hosted by a mental health professional and would seem on occasion he could provide some guidance on seemingly clear cut fraudulent claims such as the one under discusion while people are lanquishing...or are we just some kind of Milgram subjects under a microscope for his research? Reminded of the Hitchock Movie The Trouble with Harry where the omnipresent corpse is the cause of various interpretation and speculation... I will in due course go back and review all the contextual information, I have been getting peppered with email myselt asking for advice that should be ethical consideration for the host of this site...

> I just saw his site for the first time a few days ago, but it turned out great because searching for it again is how I found this site!
>
> I am suspicious, not of people who are selling something, but people who are not upfront that they are selling something and/or secretive about what they are selling, and although I was curious, his site set off all my caution alerts.
>
> I'd be interested in hearing some positive feedback. Sadly, many businesses use employees, friends, and/or family to post glowing testimonials, but again there is good news - Dr. Bob has made registering so challenging, (or was that just me??? *lol*), that I don't think too many of them would go through the process here. Thanks, Dr. Bob! *smile*

 

Re: Advertised 3 Minute Depression Cure valid?

Posted by seriouslowitch on May 5, 2008, at 8:27:46

In reply to Re: Advertised 3 Minute Depression Cure valid? » Mike Freeman, posted by JLx on November 29, 2006, at 8:48:24

I sent his mail to him:

Hello Mike!
I´ve read a lot of posts in different forums against your cure, and almost
all of them are complainig about the high price. If you really want to help
somebody, why only the richest of us? I believe you would have been much
more popular and that you can sell 100 times more if you set down the price
to 30 - 40 $ which is a normal price for a self help cure. There is a reason
why cheap supermarkets sells more than others and make billions of dollars
very fast. I think your high price only will hurt your reputation.
There are millions of depressed people in the world, but only a few of them
have enough money for this cure. Do you want that only rich people shall be
happy? It doesn´t make sense....

I didn´t get any answer and he kicked me out of his mailing list.... Only rich people who are willing to pay are welcome in his party...

I will for that reason encourage people who know what the cure is, to reveal it here. Let us show this person that we don´t like this kind of bad business.

 

Re: invitation to help set the tone here » Dr. Bob

Posted by DMV on May 9, 2008, at 4:36:42

In reply to Re: invitation to help set the tone here, posted by Dr. Bob on March 3, 2008, at 3:31:27

I have actually bought Mike Freeman's The 3-Minute Depression Cure. I live in South Africa and it cost me approximately ZAR750.00

I have been suffering from depression for 7 or 8 years now and was on anti-dpressants (Effexor & Paxil) for over 30 months. I no longer take anti-depressants - stopped about 75 days ago. Rather, I have been taking the following outlined approach:
1. Supplementation, diet and lifestyle in alignment with Patrick Holford's Optimum Nutrition for the Mind;
2. Working with a 'Life Coach' since end October 2007, and
3. A number of personal endeavours in developing self-awareness & actualisation.

It is within point number 3 above that I came to purchase and am using Mike Freeman's The 3-Minute Depression Cure.

I wish to validate (in terms of my understanding of life) that the content and approach that Mike Freeman has taken in The 3-Minute Depression Cure is truthful and accurate. I feel that I have received a fair and equitable exchange of value and would recommend it to anyone who feels that an improved understanding & self-awareness can help them.

Mike Freeman's approach to marketing may be a little overzealous, however, I do not believe that alone warrants such negative posts as made by some of the people in this regard.

How does one really put a price on ones happiness and wellbeing anyway?

Thank you, my Best Wishes & Life's Blessings for each of You... DMV


> > It seems that deceptive practises are being used
> >
> > There are half a dozen hubpost pages by "JR_King" that don't ring true
>
> I might think the above could lead others (such as Mike) to feel accused or put down:
>
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
>
> but I'd like to try something a little different and invite posters to take a larger role in maintaining the supportive nature of this site. If you think the above is an issue, too, could you use the "notify administrators" button to let us know? As usual, we'll keep to ourselves who if anyone notifies us. And further discussion should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration. Thanks,
>
> Bob

 

Re: invitation to help set the tone here » DMV

Posted by seriouslowitch on May 9, 2008, at 5:15:18

In reply to Re: invitation to help set the tone here » Dr. Bob, posted by DMV on May 9, 2008, at 4:36:42

How does one really put a price on ones happiness and wellbeing anyway?

-------------------------
Is Mike really happy? Why doesn´t he show it?

I have never met a happy person who need to get rich by pick his neighbor´s pockets.

I think real happiness comes by serving others and not your own ego.......

 

Re: invitation to help set the tone here

Posted by Kaffy on May 9, 2008, at 10:31:15

In reply to Re: invitation to help set the tone here » Dr. Bob, posted by DMV on May 9, 2008, at 4:36:42

DMV said: "I wish to validate (in terms of my understanding of life) that the content and approach that Mike Freeman has taken in The 3-Minute Depression Cure is truthful and accurate. I feel that I have received a fair and equitable exchange of value and would recommend it to anyone who feels that an improved understanding & self-awareness can help them."

DMV, you have not answered the request for *more detailed information* on the 'approach'. This Forum is meant to SHARE information & help one another. Would you please take the time to do that? In doing so, someone else just might give it a try.

DMV also said: "How does one really put a price on ones happiness and wellbeing anyway?"

DMV, included in the *price* is the opportunity to discuss, one-on-one WITH our PHYSICIAN, who explains issues and treatments to us, and we also have the opportunity to ask questions until we are both satisfied with the best course to take.

I am willing to pay 'whatever' for that! I do not purchase anything in a brown paper bag, not knowing what is inside. Even Cracker Jack (tm) "prizes" give you some carmeled corn, and you know you're at least getting that.

If you are here to add significant information, please do so. Thanks.

 

Re: invitation to help set the tone here

Posted by seriouslowitch on May 10, 2008, at 1:00:52

In reply to Re: invitation to help set the tone here, posted by Kaffy on May 9, 2008, at 10:31:15

I think DMV is a "friend" of Mike or in worst case maybe Mike himself who want to promote this product on this site.

The text in his post sounds like that....

 

Re: please be civil » seriouslowitch

Posted by Dr. Bob on May 10, 2008, at 3:03:24

In reply to Re: invitation to help set the tone here, posted by seriouslowitch on May 10, 2008, at 1:00:52

> I think DMV is a "friend" of Mike or in worst case maybe Mike himself who want to promote this product on this site.

Please don't jump to conclusions about others or post anything that could lead others to feel accused.

But please don't take this personally, either, this doesn't mean I don't like you or think you're a bad person. And DMV, I'm sorry if you felt hurt.

I encourage anyone who has questions about this or about posting policies in general to see the FAQ:

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#enforce

Follow-ups regarding these issues should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration. They, as well as replies to the above post, should of course themselves be civil.

Thanks,

Bob

 

Re: invitation to help set the tone here » DMV

Posted by okydoky on May 17, 2008, at 12:33:42

In reply to Re: invitation to help set the tone here » Dr. Bob, posted by DMV on May 9, 2008, at 4:36:42

I have actually bought Mike Freeman's The 3-Minute Depression Cure. I live in South Africa and it cost me approximately ZAR750.00
>
> I have been suffering from depression for 7 or 8 years now and was on anti-dpressants (Effexor & Paxil) for over 30 months. I no longer take anti-depressants - stopped about 75 days ago. Rather, I have been taking the following outlined approach:
> 1. Supplementation, diet and lifestyle in alignment with Patrick Holford's Optimum Nutrition for the Mind;
> 2. Working with a 'Life Coach' since end October 2007, and
> 3. A number of personal endeavours in developing self-awareness & actualisation.
>
> It is within point number 3 above that I came to purchase and am using Mike Freeman's The 3-Minute Depression Cure.
>
> I wish to validate (in terms of my understanding of life) that the content and approach that Mike Freeman has taken in The 3-Minute Depression Cure is truthful and accurate. I feel that I have received a fair and equitable exchange of value and would recommend it to anyone who feels that an improved understanding & self-awareness can help them.
>
> Mike Freeman's approach to marketing may be a little overzealous, however, I do not believe that alone warrants such negative posts as made by some of the people in this regard.
>
> How does one really put a price on ones happiness and wellbeing anyway?
>
> Thank you, my Best Wishes & Life's Blessings for each of You... DMV
>
>


"How does one really put a price on ones happiness and wellbeing anyway?"

If one could afford a "Life Coach"!!! But shelling out money (exchange) that most of us do not even have "exchange of value and would recommend it to anyone who feels that an improved understanding & self-awareness can help them."

for "an improved understanding & self-awareness" and being left with no "cure" and little or no money left towards a possible cure yet perhaps from an improved understanding of self a greater sense of hopelessness and despair for it and no "Life Coach" to coach us through it all.

Please update us as to your continued improvement, although you never state at all that you are improved only that you discontinued taking medication after only two antidepressant trials. What happened during the about 5 years you were not on these medications? What prompted you to post here for the first time and how did you find us?

Hoping the bet for you,

oky


 

a new tone

Posted by elanor roosevelt on June 10, 2008, at 22:55:11

In reply to Re: invitation to help set the tone here » DMV, posted by okydoky on May 17, 2008, at 12:33:42

perhaps we just tire of people popping on and claiming to have a non-medical solution to their depression

that said i do resent anything that even suggests a pitch for a product

hey maybe we can start a new section for miracle cures

 

Re: a new tone

Posted by okydoky on June 11, 2008, at 10:34:32

In reply to a new tone, posted by elanor roosevelt on June 10, 2008, at 22:55:11

I think for some people depending on what is wrong. Depression is a catch all. If they believe it enough ti is almost like hypnotism. Great for them.

oky

 

Re: a new tone

Posted by Kaffy on June 11, 2008, at 12:03:02

In reply to Re: a new tone, posted by okydoky on June 11, 2008, at 10:34:32

> I think for some people depending on what is wrong. Depression is a catch all. If they believe it enough ti is almost like hypnotism. Great for them.
>
> oky
>
For SURE, I'm determined to be depressed! And my chemical imbalance has nothing to do with it. You do make a point, for those who are NOT under a doctor(s) care. Just as some like to have 'problems' to get attention, yet will not listen to advice - heaven forbid it solves the 'problem'.

 

Re: a new tone » Kaffy

Posted by okydoky on June 11, 2008, at 12:37:58

In reply to Re: a new tone, posted by Kaffy on June 11, 2008, at 12:03:02

> > I think for some people depending on what is wrong. Depression is a catch all. If they believe it enough it is almost like hypnotism. Great for them.
> >
> > oky
> >
> For SURE, I'm determined to be depressed! And my chemical imbalance has nothing to do with it. >
>

I think I did not get the right point across. I apologize.

First I was saying or implying that "depression" is a word with many meanings. We need more terms in the English language to describe the many different things that depression" encompasses. Especially a chemical imbalance. My experience or negative experience is people not getting that I have a chemical, perhaps physical problem called "depression" and cannot will myself to have or not to have it. The "determinism" I spoke of was about free will which I do not believe we have in terms of depression.

"You do make a point, for those who are NOT under a doctor(s) care. Just as some like to have 'problems' to get attention, yet will not listen to advice - heaven forbid it solves the 'problem'."

I'm not sure I understand what you are saying here.

I was kind of saying that if the "depression" is not chemical or physical that if someone believes something will help them and has no doubt it most likely will, like prayer or hypnotism or snake oil.

I am sorry I got you upset. I think it was just a misunderstanding. Not saying there is not room for disagreement but I do not think this is the case here. Maybe I am wrong.

Wish you well,

oky

 

Re: a new tone

Posted by Kaffy on June 11, 2008, at 13:13:13

In reply to a new tone, posted by elanor roosevelt on June 10, 2008, at 22:55:11

> perhaps we just tire of people popping on and claiming to have a non-medical solution to their depression
>
> that said i do resent anything that even suggests a pitch for a product
>
> hey maybe we can start a new section for miracle cures
-----------
I think a "Cure" WOULD BE a Miracle!! Dream on, eh?

 

Re: a new tone

Posted by Kaffy on June 11, 2008, at 13:18:51

In reply to Re: a new tone » Kaffy, posted by okydoky on June 11, 2008, at 12:37:58

I wasn't upset by any means. I don't think that I understood your comments, or intention (for real/sarcastic) I was being sarcastic in my opening comment. twas difficult to get a read on your intention, from 2 sentences. But, you are correct in your statements.
Stop the World, I wanna get off! or: Give me a vacation without all the intrusions of daily life.

 

Re: Advertised 3 Minute Depression Cure valid?

Posted by AshraDee on June 17, 2008, at 19:00:14

In reply to Re: Advertised 3 Minute Depression Cure valid? » blueberry, posted by FredPotter on November 28, 2006, at 21:03:48

Just wanted to say that I am glad that I stumbled onto your site. The information that I gained as people tried to sift through the 3minute cure advertisement and how people felt about it has led me to more areas of research. Thank you for your posts.

Wishing you all well......3minute miracle or not

 

Re: Advertised 3 Minute Depression Cure valid?

Posted by timmah on June 26, 2008, at 8:19:53

In reply to Advertised 3 Minute Depression Cure valid?, posted by blueberry on November 28, 2006, at 21:03:38

> I saw The Mike Freeman 3 Minute Depression Cure advertised on the side bar at google.com while researching "lithium side effects".
>
> This looks like one of those tricks where someone is out to make easy money. I am aware they have targeted a very vulnerable deserperate market audience.
>
> Does anybody know anything about this? Anyone tried it? Anyone heard about it? My gut instincts are obviously full of skepticism, but I thought it was worth pursuing a little deeper. Please share with me anything you might know.
>
> Thank you very much.

> I saw The Mike Freeman 3 Minute Depression Cure advertised on the side bar at google.com while researching "lithium side effects".
>
> This looks like one of those tricks where someone is out to make easy money. I am aware they have targeted a very vulnerable deserperate market audience.
>
> Does anybody know anything about this? Anyone tried it? Anyone heard about it? My gut instincts are obviously full of skepticism, but I thought it was worth pursuing a little deeper. Please share with me anything you might know.
>
> Thank you very much.

Dont waste your money.

As the person above suggested, this is indeed marketed to the weak and vunerable - and people believe it.

I was about to try it then I saw his blog: which is titled: Real Voodoo Magic.

His selling point is to inoke a spirit guide

Laughable. I bought it at first (i havent got it yet) but i checked his blog and as soon as I can i am requesting a refund. That stuff is just plain weird and crazy. You just dont go round invoking spirits and all - thats just stupid.

Here is his blog: http://magicvoodoo.blogspot.com/

Food for thought isnt it?

By the way, I have kindly been given another article titled 3 minute depression cure, written by a different author, and he insists that you distribute it everywhere for free.

True, understanding and reading it may not take 3 minutes, and the cure may not take 3 minutes - but it is very solid and sound advice. Have a look if your interested.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/3506811/Your-3-Minute-Solution-To-Cope-Your-Depression

 

Re: Advertised 3 Minute Depression Cure valid? » timmah

Posted by Kaffy on June 26, 2008, at 9:51:12

In reply to Re: Advertised 3 Minute Depression Cure valid?, posted by timmah on June 26, 2008, at 8:19:53

THANK YOU for the link to that article!
I think that 'physiology' is making a comeback. I noticed the other day, after seeing myself in the mirror, looking like a 90-year old, hunched over, etc. that I didn't like what saw, so put my stature in order, and felt so much better - mentally and physically. I DO need to 'retrain' my body, to reflect that once-felt 'proud' stature.
That article was interesting, well-written, and generous. Thank you for your post!
I have more to say on various '3-minuts solutions', and will put in separate posting.

 

Re: invitation to help set the tone here

Posted by Chico Bones on July 12, 2008, at 8:15:29

In reply to Re: invitation to help set the tone here » Dr. Bob, posted by DMV on May 9, 2008, at 4:36:42

I agree with every word Dr. Bob said.
Mike Freeman's "aggressive" marketing doesn't say anything bad about his product. His video introductions make a lot of sense and based on the information we get on them is clear that the guy did his homework. As for a "3 Minute Cure" it makes me wonder what does he mean ? As additional important information, as Dr. Bob put it "developing self-awareness & actualisation", I find his material very informative and useful, but only and only in addition to some type of professional assistance, the one that suits you the best.

All the Best to all of you Friends and remember to be positive and never to lose Hope.

Regards,
Chico

 

Re: invitation to help set the tone here

Posted by Chico Bones on July 12, 2008, at 8:24:35

In reply to Re: invitation to help set the tone here, posted by Chico Bones on July 12, 2008, at 8:15:29

My Apologies,
It was actually a message from DMV and not from Dr. Bob.
In any case I agree 100% with DMV and what was said on his post.

Regards,

 

Re: Money back promise....Freeman posts missing » diablo esquire

Posted by beinuppity on July 28, 2008, at 12:06:30

In reply to Money back promise....Freeman posts missing, posted by diablo esquire on July 21, 2007, at 4:58:36

> I noticed the posts fm Freeman are missing at least on this thread where he stated that his legitimacy and promises are backed up by the service that process his money exchanges...

His post is here:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/alter/20061118/msgs/708384.html

"Re: Advertised 3 Minute Depression Cure valid?

Posted by Mike Freeman on November 28, 2006, at 7:24:34 [ reposted on November 28, 2006, at 21:04:25 ]

In reply to Advertised 3 Minute Depression Cure valid?, posted by blueberry on November 12, 2006, at 10:59:29

Hello everyone.

This is Mike Freeman, of www.depression.curedhere.com

Yes, I offer a "3 Minute Depression Cure" on my web site.

While doing research recently, I came across this very intersting site, and noticed these postings.

And if you will allow me to respond, I would like to answer some of the comments and questions presented here regarding my "cure".

First off, I would like to explain the nature of the changing position (or absence) in the Google side bar:

This is simply a function of how the Google Adwords advertising system works. This system is constantly changing and evolving, and over the last year especially I have seen many changes that have turned this type of advertising upside down! I make no claim to being a "Google Advertising Expert", and I have found this to be a difficult aspect to keep up with. I am only lucky in the fact that I have a few friends that help me with this, and it is only because of this that I am able to keep any position at all with Google's advertising.

In other words, everyone but the most dedicated advertisers, with millions of dollars in budget money, will have ads that fluctuate on that side bar.

Next, I would like to address the comments regarding the functionality of the "3 Minute Depression Cure".

One comment regarded the prospect of such a thing as simply impossible - after all, it has been a problem for "thousands" of years, right?

That kind of thinking is unfortunately a little too "black and white". After all, how many medical "miracles" have come about in the last 100 years?

I put it to you that ANYTHING can be possible, if you only know how. This is not just in regards to my depression cure, but it also reflects the potential within the universe in general.

It is when we think that all is known that we make our biggest mistakes!

So let me explain to you the nature of the cure I have outlined in the audio-CD:

Depression is a tool. It serves a USEFUL purpose.

Like any tool, if you do not know how to use it properly it can hurt you. Learn to use it correctly and efficiently and this tool can help you to change your life in rewarding ways.

It is really about changing your sense of awarenes, of both self and environment.

I believe I also read a comment about the length of the cure. Please allow me to clear this up:

The "3 Minute Cure" audio CD is about 30 minutes long. It takes that long to explain enough vocabulary, vernacular, and background to the average person so that they may actually understand and then benefit from the actual cure when it is presented.

And yes, this information, which outlines the actual cure process, is only 3 minutes long!

And how long will it take to implement?

Your entire life!

Think about it. If you stop implementing it, the depression will become a problem again. It is like refusing to wear safety goggles in a shop environment; you put yourself at risk because you are not following the rules of safety.

This is the same idea here. The cure is process that helps you to attain a proper mental attitude and awareness regarding depression, so that you will use it correctly as the tool it is and therefore benefit. When you stop using this process, depression can become a problem almost immediately.

This may sound difficult, but it isn't. It is just true. If you want to see the things around you then you must be in the habit of opening your eyes. But this habit is not so difficult to maintain, is it? I should think we have all managed to do so!

The process simply becomes habit based on experience and knowledge, just like any other behavior with positive benefits to you; you simply "do it".

Oh, and one last thing: regarding the possibility that I am "scamming" people.

I have a valid and active merchant account with a VERY reputable organization. If I were "scamming" good folks I would surely lose this account in short order! If you have any doubts, please look at the URL on the order form page. You will notice that it redirects to Authorize.Net (this is a gateway server). You can contact this company directly and get verification of my business authenticity from them, and they will more than happy to furnish you with information regarding certain aspects of their own business. You should have no problem verifying that both they and I are reputable businesses in good standing. :)

I hope this helps to clear up any confusion regarding these matters here. :)

Sincerely,
Mike Freeman

P.S. I also offer a 100% guarantee (I ask one question, "who do I give the refund to?" :) ) Try getting a refund on a used prescription sometime!"

 

Where I can still find the 3 minutes cure prog.?

Posted by Carmen-L on September 3, 2009, at 4:45:21

In reply to Re: Advertised 3 Minute Depression Cure valid?, posted by AshraDee on June 17, 2008, at 19:00:14

I'm looking on the net since some days hoping that can find this 3 minute depression cure and give it a try. It seemed also too me too optimistic and too pushing somehow, when i first read his advert years ago. But as I pass bad moments I want to try it. If someone ordered it and can help me to get in contact with the owner of the program the 3 minute depression cure, of is still someone can provide it to me the way would be faund possible.
Thank you very much,
Carmen

 

Re: Where I can still find the 3 minutes cure prog.?

Posted by okydoky on September 4, 2009, at 9:22:32

In reply to Where I can still find the 3 minutes cure prog.?, posted by Carmen-L on September 3, 2009, at 4:45:21

I saw some talk about this a long time ago on this site. Received a link in my in box today here so I looked it up a little,

First I ( or anyone I assume ) can no longer get to:
http://www.3-minute-depression-cure.com

so maybe he is not selling it anymore or maybe it is under something different, which is what I might suspect I might find if I put more effort into finding it!

I also found the following site which I found rather amusing:

http://www.squidoo.com/depression-chat-rooms

And lastly I looked it up at the BBB and found the following:

http://www.bbb.org/oregon/business-reviews/mailing-services/3-minute-depression-cure-in-medford-or-22479010


I have my own opinions of course. My brother is a Naturopath and he always tells me they teach them that (I forgot the exact %) but like 30% or more of a "cure" is believing in the "cure" or the "doctor" providing the "cure" I have some great stories he told me about placebos. Funny but true.

I believe if one is not "clinically" (my vernacular is probably off here but for lack of a better term)depressed a lot of things could potentially help. In my experience even being "clinically" depressed some things helped because I believed they would, but I could only "fool myself" for a limited amount of time.

Unfortunately just as one's mind cannot "cure" a diseased liver or kidney neither can it"cure" the diseased brain. An organ is an organ. That is how I explain my depression to people who try to tell me that I can "think" my way out of my depression. I am weak and need to believe and pull myself up by my own boot straps... You all know what I mean , it is told to us all in many many different ways. I ask them to try and think their way out of cirrhosis or pick the organ! A diseased organ is a diseased organ be it the liver , the kidney , the heart...or the brain!

I have no doubt that changing routine or ritual behavior that is born from long term depression (commonly accepted treatments like DBT or CBT)(I don't know if I am getting all the acronyms right here)can help alleviate some of the symptoms we with long term clinical depression have to live with. At least I believe it can help some. But that is my opinion based on personal experience and the belief that these practices would not continue in the main stream of therapy if they did not bear out some success, even if it were temporary. I could be wrong. Not trying to argue here, am open to others opinions about it all.

Changing behavior could have an impact on the internal chemical makeup? Changing our external environment , be it air , food , company we surround ourselves with, eliminating all sorts of "toxins" could potentially alleviate symptoms of many different diseases of different organs. By my brothers account most of the diseases we have are caused by our routinely putting "toxins" into our bodies by eating or breathing, taking medication (toxic chemicals)... Not that I believe medications do not have their place in many of our lives.
Sorry I got off on a tangent today.
If you actually read this whole thing kudos to you. I am willing to read any and all response if anyone has any.

Take care,

okydoky

 

Re: Where I can still find the 3 minutes cure prog.?

Posted by Carmen-L on September 5, 2009, at 6:48:26

In reply to Re: Where I can still find the 3 minutes cure prog.?, posted by okydoky on September 4, 2009, at 9:22:32

Thank you very much for your answer. I also have faund http://www.squidoo.com/depression-chat-rooms, but they do nor write there how I can contact the person who wrote it and I can't even post there a comment or response. This other linkyou are giving to me ( http://www.bbb.org/oregon/business-reviews/mailing-services/3-minute-depression-cure-in-medford-or-22479010 ), gives me also an error when i try to open it (Proxy Error). If somoene used it and can share a print version of this program I'm very interested in it. I was before very sqeptical but i'm now very interested in it... who knows... Of course, if it's still availavble I'd buy the program, can it be on ebay? Sorry for misspell and thank you again for your answer. Carmen....


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