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Where will you redirect the actual topic Dr. Bob

Posted by 10derheart on March 17, 2015, at 0:28:21

In reply to Redirect: life-ruining conditions, posted by Dr. Bob on March 14, 2015, at 22:27:39

...of these posts:

yours and my rampant, ongoing, pervasive, condoning of antisemitism??


A special LP board perhaps?

 

Lou's response-ehylowheyt 10derheart

Posted by Lou Pilder on March 17, 2015, at 0:28:22

In reply to Where will you redirect the actual topic Dr. Bob, posted by 10derheart on March 16, 2015, at 2:27:52

> ...of these posts:
>
> yours and my rampant, ongoing, pervasive, condoning of antisemitism??
>
>
> A special LP board perhaps?
>
>
10,
You wrote here that there could be a place for the discussion of the allowing of anti-Semitic statements that can be seen here as supportive by you and Mr. Hsiung. I do not see why there needs to be a discussion at all, for being supportive takes precedence and members are to be civil at all times and if something is not civil it should not be posted according to Mr. Hsiung.
Now he says that he can leave what is unsupportive, which are anti-Semitic statements, unsanctioned that could lead a reader to think that the anti-Semitism is supportive. His justification for doing so is that in his thinking the anti-Semitism as seen to be supportive will be good for this community as a whole and he wants readers to trust him at that.
The anti-Semitic statements standing could have been on your watch when you were a deputy here. This could mean that you had your hands in allowing the hatred toward the Jews in those posts to be seen as civil and supportive and not against the rules here by a psychiatrist that you were doing his wishes as being a deputy for him.
But you had training in what constitutes what could lead one to feel put down or accused and what constituted putting down those of other faiths and you demonstrated that you knew that in the posts that you sanctioned.
I am giving Mr. Hsiung the opportunity to remediate the situation here where anti-Semitism is allowed to be seen as supportive here, which is contrary to the goals of this forum.
You could help me here by going to the posts in question where anti-Semitic hate is allowed to be seen as supportive and link a post to it saying something like this:
Former deputies note:
Be advised that what is posted here is not civil and is against the rules of this forum. I regret that as a deputy then I allowed it to stand. I allowed it to stand because:
__________________________________________
___________________________________________
former deputy,
10
Lou Pilder

 

Don't hold your breath, Lou. (nm) Lou Pilder

Posted by 10derheart on March 17, 2015, at 16:06:24

In reply to Lou's response-ehylowheyt 10derheart, posted by Lou Pilder on March 17, 2015, at 0:28:22

 

Re: the actual topic

Posted by Dr. Bob on March 22, 2015, at 11:33:26

In reply to Where will you redirect the actual topic Dr. Bob, posted by 10derheart on March 17, 2015, at 0:28:21

> ...of these posts:
>
> yours and my rampant, ongoing, pervasive, condoning of antisemitism??
>
> A special LP board perhaps?

I do see Lou as special, but with being seen as "special" comes the risk of being seen as "other". In what way is he special? I posted recently that I saw him as eternally vigilant. I also see him as questioning authority. Does anybody else question authority?

Google took me to:

> "Question authority" is a popular slogan ... popularized by controversial psychologist Timothy Leary,[1] although some people have suggested that the idea behind the slogan can be traced back to the ancient Greek philosopher Socrates.[2] ... Following the Watergate Scandal ... the slogan became arguably the most accepted form of ideology among baby boomers.[4]
>
> It is intended to encourage people to avoid fallacious appeals to authority. The term has always symbolized the necessity of paying attention to the rules and regulations promulgated by a government unto its citizenry. However, psychologists have also criticized Leary's method of questioning authority and have argued that it resulted in widespread dysfunctionality.[5]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Question_authority

And:

> An employee who challenges your authority disrupts the workforce and negatively impacts the morale within a department or division by distracting other workers from the task at hand. In a small business, a challenge to management's authority is likely to be even more pervasive. Because of the small size of the company, the negative morale will permeate the entire organization quickly, reducing productivity and having a detrimental effect on the business overall. Small business owners must recognize challenges to their authority and act quickly to prevent the behavior from reoccurring.

http://smallbusiness.chron.com/should-manager-say-employee-insubordinate-19091.html

How do you respond to authority? To challenges to your own authority?

I myself do tend to question authority, and when my own authority is questioned, I can feel hurt, and irritated, and impatient, and doubt myself, and challenge the challenger.

Bob

 

Re: the actual topic Dr. Bob

Posted by 10derheart on March 22, 2015, at 19:24:13

In reply to Re: the actual topic, posted by Dr. Bob on March 22, 2015, at 11:33:26

It was a rhetorical question.

 

Re: the actual topic 10derheart

Posted by ClearSkies on March 22, 2015, at 20:40:38

In reply to Re: the actual topic Dr. Bob, posted by 10derheart on March 22, 2015, at 19:24:13

> It was a rhetorical question.


LOL

 

Re: the actual topic

Posted by alexandra_k on March 22, 2015, at 23:51:17

In reply to Re: the actual topic 10derheart, posted by ClearSkies on March 22, 2015, at 20:40:38

> > It was a rhetorical question.
>
>
> LOL
>

:-)

 

Re: the actual topic Dr. Bob

Posted by Phillipa on March 23, 2015, at 9:51:50

In reply to Re: the actual topic, posted by Dr. Bob on March 22, 2015, at 11:33:26

I follow society's rules. If I were to speed I'd get a ticket. And certain things in life I have no control over such as aging. But I don't blame others. It's a fact of life that one gets old, that there are various sub cultures in society, and right now this country is in trouble. So focusing on the present to me is most important in my humble opinion only. Phillipa

 

Lou's response-discrmdestroyz Dr. Bob

Posted by Lou Pilder on March 23, 2015, at 11:16:00

In reply to Re: the actual topic, posted by Dr. Bob on March 22, 2015, at 11:33:26

> > ...of these posts:
> >
> > yours and my rampant, ongoing, pervasive, condoning of antisemitism??
> >
> > A special LP board perhaps?
>
> I do see Lou as special, but with being seen as "special" comes the risk of being seen as "other". In what way is he special? I posted recently that I saw him as eternally vigilant. I also see him as questioning authority. Does anybody else question authority?
>
> Google took me to:
>
> > "Question authority" is a popular slogan ... popularized by controversial psychologist Timothy Leary,[1] although some people have suggested that the idea behind the slogan can be traced back to the ancient Greek philosopher Socrates.[2] ... Following the Watergate Scandal ... the slogan became arguably the most accepted form of ideology among baby boomers.[4]
> >
> > It is intended to encourage people to avoid fallacious appeals to authority. The term has always symbolized the necessity of paying attention to the rules and regulations promulgated by a government unto its citizenry. However, psychologists have also criticized Leary's method of questioning authority and have argued that it resulted in widespread dysfunctionality.[5]
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Question_authority
>
> And:
>
> > An employee who challenges your authority disrupts the workforce and negatively impacts the morale within a department or division by distracting other workers from the task at hand. In a small business, a challenge to management's authority is likely to be even more pervasive. Because of the small size of the company, the negative morale will permeate the entire organization quickly, reducing productivity and having a detrimental effect on the business overall. Small business owners must recognize challenges to their authority and act quickly to prevent the behavior from reoccurring.
>
> http://smallbusiness.chron.com/should-manager-say-employee-insubordinate-19091.html
>
> How do you respond to authority? To challenges to your own authority?
>
> I myself do tend to question authority, and when my own authority is questioned, I can feel hurt, and irritated, and impatient, and doubt myself, and challenge the challenger.
>
> Bob

Mr. Hsiung,
You wrote that you see me as questioning authority. That is not what I am doing. I am not questioning your authority but trying to stop you from abusing me and abusing Jews by abusing your authority by discriminating in that you are allowing anti-Semitism to be posted here with impunity, by not applying your rules equally which can be considered to be discrimination per se. If you think that you have the authority to allow antisemitic hate to be seen as supportive and will be good for this community as a whole in your thinking, that does not annul the fact that just because you give yourself that authority, by allowing the anti-Semitic hate, your rules here are not being enforced equally which allows Jews to be seen stigmatized as being without the equal protection of your rules. And without that protection, Jews could become targets of hate by reading here and seeing anti-Semitism being allowed to be seen in your thinking as supportive where it is originally posted. I am not questioning your authority, for discrimination is an abuse of authority and does not harm a workplace environment to try to stop it, for discrimination harms those that are targets of discrimination and harm is not supportive and discrimination could destroy a community.
Lou Pilder

 

Re: the actual topic

Posted by alexandra_k on March 23, 2015, at 16:02:15

In reply to Re: the actual topic Dr. Bob, posted by Phillipa on March 23, 2015, at 9:51:50

> I follow society's rules. If I were to speed I'd get a ticket.

Following society's rules would be not speeding in the first place.

 

Re: the actual topic alexandra_k

Posted by Phillipa on March 23, 2015, at 17:40:32

In reply to Re: the actual topic, posted by alexandra_k on March 23, 2015, at 16:02:15

Alex you are correct. Thanks

 

Re: the actual topic

Posted by Dr. Bob on March 24, 2015, at 22:42:21

In reply to Re: the actual topic, posted by alexandra_k on March 23, 2015, at 16:02:15

> > I follow society's rules. If I were to speed I'd get a ticket.
>
> Following society's rules would be not speeding in the first place.

LOL

Bob


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