Psycho-Babble Administration Thread 875388

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Pro Psychiatric Agenda

Posted by Trans-Human on January 22, 2009, at 5:10:53

>is treated with disgust & disdain by the majority on this board.

An accurate observation

>is skewed, unbalanced, & frankly dangerous; & constitutes extreme harm for many people.

My honest opinion; which holds water.

>Despite some people here being intelligent; & there being a few good people who post here

An honest observation

>a very fixed & narrow agenda at work on this site; & it feels very wrong.

My honest opinion.

>Please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down, and please don't jump to conclusions about others (e.g., that they have a certain agenda).

It is quite obvious that many on this site do have a certain agenda.

>If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternate ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil

I read all of the site "rules" & the FAQ's

>Follow ups regarding these issues should be directed to Admin, and should of course, be civil. Dr. Bob has oversight over deputy decisions, and he may choose a different action.

--10derHeart, acting as deputy for Dr. Bob

Point taken; but I was being honest about how I felt & with the site. I'm a newer member & although a few have been very welcoming & friendly; some have not. Some replies have been very much "pro-psychiatric" & include put downs to my perspectives; based solely that some of my opinions are not in line with orthodox propaganda.

It appeared very much that things were pro-med & very much pro the orthodox view.

I have many issues with the medication I am on; & my views; although not strictly "anti-psychiatry" are concerned with finding what can best assist in a therapeutic framework.

I understand if you disagree; many sites purport to be impartial - while in truth they operate very much from a pro orthodox psychiatric agenda & perspective.

 

Re: Pro Psychiatric Agenda » Trans-Human

Posted by SLS on January 22, 2009, at 6:43:34

In reply to Pro Psychiatric Agenda, posted by Trans-Human on January 22, 2009, at 5:10:53

Were you given a reason for why you were sanctioned?


- Scott

 

Re: Pro Psychiatric Agenda

Posted by Trans-Human on January 22, 2009, at 6:59:27

In reply to Re: Pro Psychiatric Agenda » Trans-Human, posted by SLS on January 22, 2009, at 6:43:34

> Were you given a reason for why you were sanctioned?
>
>
> - Scott

Needing to be civil.

"Please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down, and please don't jump to conclusions about others (e.g., that they have a certain agenda)."

 

Re: Pro Psychiatric Agenda » Trans-Human

Posted by SLS on January 22, 2009, at 10:09:19

In reply to Re: Pro Psychiatric Agenda, posted by Trans-Human on January 22, 2009, at 6:59:27

> > Were you given a reason for why you were sanctioned?
> >
> >
> > - Scott
>
> Needing to be civil.
>
> "Please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down, and please don't jump to conclusions about others (e.g., that they have a certain agenda)."


I guess the word "agenda" is a trigger word. I've been cited for that one, too. As true as it may be that people have agendas, I guess it is not up to us to try to read the minds of others. As benign as having an agenda may be, in common parlance, it is somehow pejorative, as it is often used as an accusation. However, I wouldn't want to deem pejorative the agendas of the Founding Fathers of the U.S.A.


- Scott

 

Site guidelines » Trans-Human

Posted by Deputy Dinah on January 22, 2009, at 10:19:29

In reply to Pro Psychiatric Agenda, posted by Trans-Human on January 22, 2009, at 5:10:53

The guidelines for posting on this site are in the FAQ.

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil

They include the following:

"Please respect the views of others even if you think they're wrong. Please be sensitive to their feelings even if yours are hurt. Different points of view are fine, and in fact encouraged, but your freedom of speech is limited here. It can be therapeutic to express yourself, but this isn't necessarily the place.

Please don't be sarcastic, treat injury or death lightly, suggest that others harm (or use this site to exchange information that could be used to harm) themselves or others, jump to conclusions about others, post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down, harass or pressure others, use language that could offend others, disclose without permission information that identifies or private communications from another poster, post information that you know to be false, exaggerate or overgeneralize -- etc. Even if you're quoting someone else."

Believing something is true does not make it civil per site guidelines. You might wish to review these.

If you see posts that you believe are violating site guidelines, please use the "Notify Administrators" function at the bottom of each post window to let Administration know.

Dinah, acting as deputy to Dr. Bob

 

Re: Site guidelines

Posted by SLS on January 22, 2009, at 10:27:10

In reply to Site guidelines » Trans-Human, posted by Deputy Dinah on January 22, 2009, at 10:19:29

I can't find the word "agenda" anywhere in the FAQ page - unless my browser's Find function isn't working.

Scott has an agenda - several in fact. There. I said it.


- Scott

 

Re: Site guidelines » SLS

Posted by Dinah on January 22, 2009, at 10:38:20

In reply to Re: Site guidelines, posted by SLS on January 22, 2009, at 10:27:10

I don't believe any specific words are listed in the FAQ except in examples. However, context is also important.

 

Re: Pro Psychiatric Agenda

Posted by Trans-Human on January 22, 2009, at 11:51:39

In reply to Pro Psychiatric Agenda, posted by Trans-Human on January 22, 2009, at 5:10:53

It just seems that my "comments" have been made very much open to interpretation; based on the "agenda" of this site - namely that it operates under the assumed adherence to & pays homage to a predominantly unquestionable loyalty to Orthodox Psychiatry.

I think my comments were fair, justified & balanced. There were in response to other posters comments - which frankly are at least on a par with mine for "civility" & some have in all honesty been ruder & qualify in every way for what I am being accused of.

As far as I can see; the only basis for having reprimanded me; instead of them; or including them as well - is because they pay homage to the Orthodox Psychiatric viewpoint & no other reason.

Not only is that unbalanced, unfair & unjust - but it is also quite pathetic.

I am however prepared to let it go. I don't quite know what to make of it; this does seem to be one of the most bizarre forums I have ever come across. I don't really understand how any open conversation can be had with such a tyrannical application of forum rules; based almost entirely on the most arbitrary & subjective of interpretations. It seems quite ridiculous.

I rest my case.

 

Please be civil » Trans-Human

Posted by Deputy Dinah on January 22, 2009, at 12:15:34

In reply to Re: Pro Psychiatric Agenda, posted by Trans-Human on January 22, 2009, at 11:51:39

> There were in response to other posters comments - which frankly are at least on a par with mine for "civility" & some have in all honesty been ruder & qualify in every way for what I am being accused of.

Again, please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down.

Since you are new to the site, I really do encourage you to read the FAQ on civility.

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil

> As far as I can see; the only basis for having reprimanded me; instead of them; or including them as well - is because they pay homage to the Orthodox Psychiatric viewpoint & no other reason.

The basis for reprimanding *anyone* is the civility guidelines of this site.

It is not Dr. Bob's policy for Administration to read every post for incivilities. The site relies on poster notifications, through the notify administration button *not* on board, for consistency of administrative action. If you believe a post to be in violation of site guidelines, please report it to Administration through the button provided for that purpose.


> I don't really understand how any open conversation can be had with such a tyrannical application of forum rules; based almost entirely on the most arbitrary & subjective of interpretations. It seems quite ridiculous.

Per the FAQ:

"Different points of view are fine, and in fact encouraged, but your freedom of speech is limited here."

Open conversation is fine, as long as it is not in violation of site guidelines. I realize that some people might not agree with the rules. However, if anyone continues to violate site rules after a warning, they will be blocked from posting for one week. The lengths of blocks after that are calculated by the formula contained in the FAQ.

 

Re: Please be civil

Posted by Trans-Human on January 22, 2009, at 12:21:42

In reply to Please be civil » Trans-Human, posted by Deputy Dinah on January 22, 2009, at 12:15:34

> Since you are new to the site, I really do encourage you to read the FAQ on civility.
>
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
>

Thanks I read them before I posted anything.

> It is not Dr. Bob's policy for Administration to read every post for incivilities. The site relies on poster notifications, through the notify administration button *not* on board, for consistency of administrative action. If you believe a post to be in violation of site guidelines, please report it to Administration through the button provided for that purpose.
>
>
> > I don't really understand how any open conversation can be had with such a tyrannical application of forum rules; based almost entirely on the most arbitrary & subjective of interpretations. It seems quite ridiculous.
>
> Per the FAQ:
>
> "Different points of view are fine, and in fact encouraged, but your freedom of speech is limited here."

That is a very ambiguous & contradictory statement.

Right - I'm off to report some posts.

 

Re: Pro Psychiatric Agenda » Trans-Human

Posted by SLS on January 22, 2009, at 15:22:01

In reply to Re: Pro Psychiatric Agenda, posted by Trans-Human on January 22, 2009, at 11:51:39

> It just seems that my "comments" have been made very much open to interpretation; based on the "agenda" of this site - namely that it operates under the assumed adherence to & pays homage to a predominantly unquestionable loyalty to Orthodox Psychiatry.

I have been here since the year 2000. I have seen no such agenda on the part of Dr. Bob to foster one opinion over another. Psycho-Babble has neither encouraged nor discouraged the gathering of adversary opinions. Indeed, the rules of civility help guarantee that someone who stands alone in his opinion has as much protection to express that opinion as does the majority to express theirs.

Believe it or not...


- Scott

 

Re: Pro Psychiatric Agenda » Trans-Human

Posted by Sigismund on January 22, 2009, at 15:44:38

In reply to Re: Pro Psychiatric Agenda, posted by Trans-Human on January 22, 2009, at 11:51:39

Talking about a pro-psychiatric agenda will likely be more of a problem on the med board than Alternative or some of the other boards.

There are ways in which you can talk about what you need, and boards which are suitable for that, where you can find like-minded people.

I have an agenda too.

 

Re: Please be civil

Posted by Sigismund on January 22, 2009, at 15:53:27

In reply to Re: Please be civil, posted by Trans-Human on January 22, 2009, at 12:21:42

There was some time back a quite civil conversation about how we were all being turned into serfs on the Politics Board.

It would have required no effort to include psychiatry as one of the agents of control.

I only mention this to suggest that you can say what you want here, if you are friendly and careful, and I'm not implying for a minute that you are not.
I'm just trying to be helpful.

 

Re: Pro Psychiatric Agenda » SLS

Posted by 10derHeart on January 22, 2009, at 17:35:20

In reply to Re: Pro Psychiatric Agenda » Trans-Human, posted by SLS on January 22, 2009, at 15:22:01

That was exceptionally well put.

It's how I see it, too, and since you have been here twice as long as I, and well....you're you ( :-) )...what you're seen over the years and your conclusions based on that means at least "twice as much" as mine. I think.

And I think that was one of the most poorly constructed sentences I've ever written. Lol.

Seriously, thanks for posting that.

 

Re: Please be civil

Posted by Trans-Human on January 22, 2009, at 17:52:59

In reply to Re: Please be civil, posted by Sigismund on January 22, 2009, at 15:53:27

OK & thanks for the replies.

 

Re: Pro Psychiatric Agenda » 10derHeart

Posted by SLS on January 23, 2009, at 10:40:11

In reply to Re: Pro Psychiatric Agenda » SLS, posted by 10derHeart on January 22, 2009, at 17:35:20

10derHeart,

> and well....you're you ( :-) )...

THAT was one of the nicest things anyone has ever said to me. I mean it. The smiley means everything to me.

Thanks.


- Scott

 

another one, then :-) - and, you're welcome (nm) » SLS

Posted by 10derHeart on January 23, 2009, at 13:02:02

In reply to Re: Pro Psychiatric Agenda » 10derHeart, posted by SLS on January 23, 2009, at 10:40:11


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