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Lou's response to aspects-phawstrheht

Posted by Lou Pilder on November 19, 2008, at 16:01:24

In reply to Re: My Vote for Best Block of 2008 » BayLeaf, posted by yxibow on November 19, 2008, at 8:27:10

Friends,
If you are considering posting in this thread or a parallel thread, I am requesting that you click on the offered link here that brings up a thread for your examination.
I think that if you do, that there could be more understanding of the issues involved here which are comming out in this thread that may have been unbeknownst to some.
I would like for those interested in my perspective to email me if they like after reading the thread in question via this link.
Lou
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20041109/msgs/429282.html

 

Re: jews and psychiatry

Posted by obsidian on November 19, 2008, at 16:27:51

In reply to Re: jews and psychiatry, posted by LostBoyinNCBecksDark on November 18, 2008, at 20:42:50

wow...geez man
you really think that?

As most everyone knows Freud was a neurologist, and I don't think that his departure to psychoanalysis made him leave it all behind
I think he really did try to understand the ways that things can manifest themselves physically as well as mentally

A lot of what is written about these days regarding neuroscience is not necessarily in contrast to freudian theories

"The Right Brain and the Unconscious"

 

Lou's response to aspects-hudou

Posted by Lou Pilder on November 19, 2008, at 16:59:13

In reply to Lou's response to aspects-phawstrheht, posted by Lou Pilder on November 19, 2008, at 16:01:24

Friends,
If you are considering responding here, I am requesting that you examine the thread that the following post brings up. If you could, I think that there could be a better understanding of the issues involved here.
Lou
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20041012/msgs/402039.html
and also;
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20041012/msgs/405068.html

 

Please remember guidelines/keep it administrative

Posted by Deputy 10derHeart on November 19, 2008, at 17:22:37

In reply to Lou's response to aspects-hudou, posted by Lou Pilder on November 19, 2008, at 16:59:13

a friendly caution for all....

While support and understanding of deputy actions is always *much* appreciated, please keep in mind that the guidelines apply to everyone, including blocked posters.

Posts which could be interpreted as 'celebrating' a block, or negatively characterizing what the blocked poster wrote, are likely to be in violation of the civility guidelines.

Any discussions of Freud or other non-administrative topics, should be held on the appropriate board(s).

Thanks in advance for helping keep Babble civil and [somewhat!?] organized...

-- 10der

 

Re: Please remember guidelines/keep it administrative » Deputy 10derHeart

Posted by BayLeaf on November 19, 2008, at 19:31:52

In reply to Please remember guidelines/keep it administrative, posted by Deputy 10derHeart on November 19, 2008, at 17:22:37

It is certainly worth the possibility of a block to do the right thing.

What we saw was vile hate speech - which should never be tolerated. I can't help but express gratitude that it was quickly stopped.

We complain a lot here. It seems to me that we should express thanks when appropriate as well. :-)

Bay

 

Lou's response to aspects-replatheoh » BayLeaf

Posted by Lou Pilder on November 19, 2008, at 20:43:40

In reply to Re: Please remember guidelines/keep it administrative » Deputy 10derHeart, posted by BayLeaf on November 19, 2008, at 19:31:52

> It is certainly worth the possibility of a block to do the right thing.
>
> What we saw was vile hate speech - which should never be tolerated. I can't help but express gratitude that it was quickly stopped.
>
> We complain a lot here. It seems to me that we should express thanks when appropriate as well. :-)
>
> Bay

Bay,
You wrote,[...do the right thing...hate speech..never be tolerated...]
The aspect of tolerating generally means to allow without sanction.
Hate speech is generally directed at groups of people. This could include racism which could include anti-Semitism.
I would like for interested members here to examine the thread that the following link brings up and email me if you like concerning the Law of Moses and how the Jews worship their God concerning that, and if you are going to post in this thread to consider the aspects in the thread that the post in the link brings up.
Lou
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20070702/msgs/776479.html
lpilder_1188@fuse.net

 

Please be civil » BayLeaf

Posted by Deputy 10derHeart on November 19, 2008, at 21:53:00

In reply to Re: Please remember guidelines/keep it administrative » Deputy 10derHeart, posted by BayLeaf on November 19, 2008, at 19:31:52

> It is certainly worth the possibility of a block to do the right thing.

Yes, everyone makes their choices, as each new situation dictates and according to their own conscience. I understand that.

> What we saw was vile hate speech

However, as Dr. Bob asks that the civility rules be applied to *all* posters, and the FAQ remind us "free speech is limited here," I'm going to ask you not to post anything that could lead others to feel accused and put down.

If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternate ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil

Follow ups regarding these issues should be directed to Admin, and should of course, be civil. Dr. Bob has oversight over deputy decisions, and he may choose a different action.

> We complain a lot here. It seems to me that we should express thanks when appropriate as well. :-)

Thank you, BayLeaf.

--10derHeart, acting as deputy for Dr. Bob

 

Lou's request for identification/rationale » Deputy 10derHeart

Posted by Lou Pilder on November 21, 2008, at 4:52:55

In reply to Please be civil » BayLeaf, posted by Deputy 10derHeart on November 19, 2008, at 21:53:00

> > It is certainly worth the possibility of a block to do the right thing.
>
> Yes, everyone makes their choices, as each new situation dictates and according to their own conscience. I understand that.
>
> > What we saw was vile hate speech
>
> However, as Dr. Bob asks that the civility rules be applied to *all* posters, and the FAQ remind us "free speech is limited here," I'm going to ask you not to post anything that could lead others to feel accused and put down.
>
> If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternate ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
>
> Follow ups regarding these issues should be directed to Admin, and should of course, be civil. Dr. Bob has oversight over deputy decisions, and he may choose a different action.
>
> > We complain a lot here. It seems to me that we should express thanks when appropriate as well. :-)
>
> Thank you, BayLeaf.
>
> --10derHeart, acting as deputy for Dr. Bob

Deputy 10derHeart,
I am unsure as to your rationale for what you have posted here to Bayleaf.
You wrote to what Bayleaf posted in,[...to do the right thing...]
[[Yes...I understand that...]]
I am unsure as to if you are wanting to mean that what BayLeaf posted is unacceptsble to you in relation to the guidlines of the forum or not and if it is not acceptab;e to you, could you post here a citation of the part of the TOS that BayLeaf's statement falls under to be unacceptable to you? If you could, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly, for it is unclear to me why you cited Bayleaf's statement when your subject line is concerning asking the member to be civil.
In Bayleaf's statement that is something like,[...What is seen...], you posted to Bayleaf's statement,[[...I'm going to ask you not to post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down...]].
I am unsure as to who the {others} could be in your statement here and what the criteria are that you used to write that the statemnt could lead another or others to feel accused or put down. Could you identify the {others}, and the criteria used, that are in your thinking by listing those here? If you could, then I could have a better understanding of why you posted to the forum here your statement in question concerning that BayLeaf identified what she thinks could be seen. And if that is done here, then I could also try to determine as to if there is or is not a question in your mind as to if what BayLeaf posted as to what could be seen is self-evident to you or not and then respond accordingly as to why Bayleaf is told by you to not post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down.
Lou Pilder

 

Re: Lou's request for identification/rationale » Lou Pilder

Posted by Deputy 10derHeart on November 21, 2008, at 13:34:44

In reply to Lou's request for identification/rationale » Deputy 10derHeart, posted by Lou Pilder on November 21, 2008, at 4:52:55

Sorry if the format of my post was confusing, Lou.

This:

> What we saw was vile hate speech

is the portion I was indicating was uncivil. Any negative characterization of what a poster posts is generally considered uncivil.

Hope that clarifies things.

-- 10derHeart

 

Lou's request for clarification-negchar? » Deputy 10derHeart

Posted by Lou Pilder on November 21, 2008, at 17:38:44

In reply to Re: Lou's request for identification/rationale » Lou Pilder, posted by Deputy 10derHeart on November 21, 2008, at 13:34:44

> Sorry if the format of my post was confusing, Lou.
>
> This:
>
> > What we saw was vile hate speech
>
> is the portion I was indicating was uncivil. Any negative characterization of what a poster posts is generally considered uncivil.
>
> Hope that clarifies things.
>
> -- 10derHeart

Deputy 10derHeart,
You wrote,[...Any negative characterization of what a poster posts is...uncivil...].
I am unsure as to what you are wanting to mean by {negative characterization} of what a poster posts here in relation to what BayLeaf posted as you cited.
The generally accepted meanings of {negative} and {characerization} are unknown to me as to how by stateing what one sees could fall into the catagory of being a {negative characterization} based upon my understanding of the grammatical structure of your statement.
If you could explain here what you are wanting to mean by a negative characterization in as to how Bayleaf's statement of what she sees is doing anything as to characterizing what the member posted as {negative}, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly if I was to know what you are wanting to mean here by {negative}.
I am unsure as to what if Bayleaf prefaced the statement with {I believe} as to if then that would have been left without administrative sanction or not. If you could write here as to if that would be acceptable or not, then I could respond accordingly.
I am also unsure as to if BayLeaf posted the statement you cited in an article in a link, let's say from a group that Bayleaf belongs to, that wrote that the type of words used that Bayleaf identified are of the nature that Bayleaf identified as in what your sanction to Bayleaf includes, would then be also notated as being uncivil or not, or would you ask Bayleaf to revise the link which could mean that Bayleaf could repost something else in its place, while the link remained intact, and not be sanctioned as being asked to be civil. If you could write here as to if that could be acceptable or not, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
Lou

 

Lou

Posted by Bobby on November 21, 2008, at 21:16:09

In reply to Lou's request for clarification-negchar? » Deputy 10derHeart, posted by Lou Pilder on November 21, 2008, at 17:38:44

You were the first person to offer me a kind word when I first came here to Babble--I haven't forgotten that gesture. You have been scrutinized and blocked more and longer than anyone I've seen here. It must be near unbearable to live under such a microscope --walking on eggshells. I'm sorry for the way things have evolved here for you Lou. I have not consciously tried to encourage the current state of affairs here. In fact, I try to stay as nuetral as possible on Admin. I sure do wish you could speak your mind here. I've never been offended by anything you've said---but the world suffers from a host of maladies and people are not as free to give their opinions here as once existed. Bob Dylan was right when he proclaimed that the times were changing. I reckon it's the natural progression when you have a bunch of folks who suffer from being human--it's an often untreatable condition. My hat's off to you Lou. You've endured a lot and have,so far, managed to maintain your composure. I suppose that I'm trying to say , "Hang in there" in my own round about way--and I have faith that you will. Later friend...

 

Re: Lou » Bobby

Posted by Dena on November 21, 2008, at 22:40:58

In reply to Lou, posted by Bobby on November 21, 2008, at 21:16:09

You have a good and gracious heart, Bobby.

Thanks for speaking out for Lou this way -- yes, Lou has given a lot of people many gifts.

May he find a way to share his heart, so that others can be blessed.

Shalom, Dena

 

Re: Lou » Bobby

Posted by Justherself54 on November 22, 2008, at 12:41:47

In reply to Lou, posted by Bobby on November 21, 2008, at 21:16:09

That was a really nice post.

 

Re: Lou's request for clarification-negchar? » Lou Pilder

Posted by Deputy 10derHeart on November 22, 2008, at 22:52:49

In reply to Lou's request for clarification-negchar? » Deputy 10derHeart, posted by Lou Pilder on November 21, 2008, at 17:38:44

>If you could explain here what you are wanting to mean by a negative characterization in as to how Bayleaf's statement of what she sees is doing anything as to characterizing what the member posted as {negative}, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly if I was to know what you are wanting to mean here by {negative}.

1. It's uncivil at Psycho-Babble to post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down.

2. Describing what I wrote in a post - *any* post - as "vile" could make me feel both accused and put down. I don't believe "vile" is a positive, supportive adjective - see below.

Definitions of *vile* per M-W:

1 a: morally despicable or abhorrent
b: physically repulsive : foul
2: of little worth or account
3: tending to degrade
4: disgustingly or utterly bad : obnoxious , contemptible
------------------------------
As for the rest, I prefer not to answer hypothetical questions.

Lou, I think it's probable I didn't answer your question(s), and possible you may have more questions. I'm sorry for my limitations, however, I don't know how to explain this admin action any further. Perhaps another poster, deputy or Dr. Bob can help.

Respectfully,

-- 10derHeart

 

Lou's response to aspects of the deputy's post-vl » Deputy 10derHeart

Posted by Lou Pilder on November 25, 2008, at 7:55:30

In reply to Re: Lou's request for clarification-negchar? » Lou Pilder, posted by Deputy 10derHeart on November 22, 2008, at 22:52:49

> >If you could explain here what you are wanting to mean by a negative characterization in as to how Bayleaf's statement of what she sees is doing anything as to characterizing what the member posted as {negative}, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly if I was to know what you are wanting to mean here by {negative}.
>
> 1. It's uncivil at Psycho-Babble to post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down.
>
> 2. Describing what I wrote in a post - *any* post - as "vile" could make me feel both accused and put down. I don't believe "vile" is a positive, supportive adjective - see below.
>
> Definitions of *vile* per M-W:
>
> 1 a: morally despicable or abhorrent
> b: physically repulsive : foul
> 2: of little worth or account
> 3: tending to degrade
> 4: disgustingly or utterly bad : obnoxious , contemptible
> ------------------------------
> As for the rest, I prefer not to answer hypothetical questions.
>
> Lou, I think it's probable I didn't answer your question(s), and possible you may have more questions. I'm sorry for my limitations, however, I don't know how to explain this admin action any further. Perhaps another poster, deputy or Dr. Bob can help.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> -- 10derHeart

Friends,
The response from the administration here to me is one that I would like for the community to see from my perspective concerning how a Jew could see what was written to him as a reply to his concerns.
The understanding that I have concerning the deputy's reply to me is that it is my understanding that her reply to me is a reply that could be from all the administration, being Mr. Hsiung and the other deputies as well. I base that on that I have requested from Mr. Hsiung concerning responses to me from his deputies and from him as to how the ones not listed stood in relation to the reply.
Here is a link to a post to a thread that gives some clarification to that.
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20061018/msgs/705186.html
I ask; Is a reply to be considerd a reply from all of the administration? If so, if Mr. Hsiung or another deputy does not consider that the reply to me here from the deputy does reflect their thinking, I invite them, if there are any, to post here their postion if different.
In another aspect of the importance to me of this reply to me here from the deputy, I would like for those that are considering posting to this thread to examine the post and thread that is brought up and take that into consideration in any post that you may want to post here.
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20041109/msgs/429282.html
Then there could be a question as to what is considered here to be an antisemitic post. Here is a link to a post and thread that I would like for you to examine if you are going to pst here to consider what is the definition of an anti-Semitic post.
http//www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20041218/msgs/439314.html
The deputy here writes to me,[...it's probable I didn't answer your question(s)..you may have more...I don't know how to explain this administrative action..another deputy, poster or (Mr. Hsiung) can...].
The invitation from the deputy also involves questions that the deputy thinks I could have, and I do. Before I post those here for members to consider posting their answers to if they would like, I am asking that others email me if they would like to have a better understanding of my perspective concerning this thread's aspects.
One question, though, is that I am asking you to examine the deputy's statement to me,[...describing what I wrote in a post-*any* post-as "vile" could make me feel both accused and put down...]
Now after reading that, I have the following questions that the deputy invites others to explain the administrative action taken, and if you are one wanting to accept that invitation, then,
A. Does the grammatical structure of the statement in question indicate, in your opiniion, that the statement in question that was sanctioned in Bayleaf's post in question indicate that it is the word used as an adjective that makes the statement uncivil and that the statement in question could be civil if the adjective in question was not used?
Lou
lpilder_1188@fuse.net


 

Re: Lou's response to aspects of the deputy's post-vl » Lou Pilder

Posted by gardenergirl on November 25, 2008, at 11:19:32

In reply to Lou's response to aspects of the deputy's post-vl » Deputy 10derHeart, posted by Lou Pilder on November 25, 2008, at 7:55:30

> A. Does the grammatical structure of the statement in question indicate, in your opiniion, that the statement in question that was sanctioned in Bayleaf's post in question indicate that it is the word used as an adjective that makes the statement uncivil and that the statement in question could be civil if the adjective in question was not used?

Grammatical structure aside, Dr. Bob does not and has not typically made a practice of enumerating all aspects of a post or posts that he might consider to be uncivil when he asks a person to be civil. He may only quote one sentence or phrase even if there are others within the same post or in other posts within the same time period that he could use as the example. I've noticed the deputies tend to follow his lead on that. Thus, one cannot assume that simply removing the one word that Deputy 10derheart used in her clarification to you would mean the phrase meets the civility guidelines.

gg

 

Lou's response to aspects of post-ahthzwrd » gardenergirl

Posted by Lou Pilder on November 25, 2008, at 20:24:08

In reply to Re: Lou's response to aspects of the deputy's post-vl » Lou Pilder, posted by gardenergirl on November 25, 2008, at 11:19:32

> > A. Does the grammatical structure of the statement in question indicate, in your opiniion, that the statement in question that was sanctioned in Bayleaf's post in question indicate that it is the word used as an adjective that makes the statement uncivil and that the statement in question could be civil if the adjective in question was not used?
>
> Grammatical structure aside, Dr. Bob does not and has not typically made a practice of enumerating all aspects of a post or posts that he might consider to be uncivil when he asks a person to be civil. He may only quote one sentence or phrase even if there are others within the same post or in other posts within the same time period that he could use as the example. I've noticed the deputies tend to follow his lead on that. Thus, one cannot assume that simply removing the one word that Deputy 10derheart used in her clarification to you would mean the phrase meets the civility guidelines.
>
> gg

Friends,
It is written here,[...Grammatical structure aside...].
The grammatical structure of what is posted is what can be seen. My post is about what can be seen, which is the grammatical structure of the statements.
Mr. Hsiung writes that not untiil he can see it can he know it. I agree in that respect with Mr. Hsiung and thearfore that is why I stated in my post concerning the grammatical structure as what could be seen. The gramatical structure is what we go by for what can not be seen IMO is something else. If we put the grammatical structure aside, then could we put BayLeaf's adjective, which is part of a grammatical structure, aside? Mr Hsiung has posted,[...Please don't post links to ant-Semitic sites, period...] (Robert Hsiung May 23, 2002). Now the generally accepted meaning of {period} in that context is that there are no exceptions and that the grammatical structure is not being put aside. I took Mr. Hsiung at his word.
Lou

 

Re: Lou's response to aspects of post-ahthzwrd

Posted by Deputy 10derHeart on November 25, 2008, at 21:40:51

In reply to Lou's response to aspects of post-ahthzwrd » gardenergirl, posted by Lou Pilder on November 25, 2008, at 20:24:08

Thanks gg, and I agree with what you wrote.

In this instance, I would have also considered it to be uncivil without the adjective *vile."

IMO, posting

"What we saw was hate speech"

could lead the author of the post to feel accused.

I speak for myself, and not for the other deputies, or Dr. Bob.

-- 10derHeart

 

Lou's reply to deputy-eighvhy? » Deputy 10derHeart

Posted by Lou Pilder on December 4, 2008, at 16:28:05

In reply to Re: Lou's request for clarification-negchar? » Lou Pilder, posted by Deputy 10derHeart on November 22, 2008, at 22:52:49

> >If you could explain here what you are wanting to mean by a negative characterization in as to how Bayleaf's statement of what she sees is doing anything as to characterizing what the member posted as {negative}, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly if I was to know what you are wanting to mean here by {negative}.
>
> 1. It's uncivil at Psycho-Babble to post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down.
>
> 2. Describing what I wrote in a post - *any* post - as "vile" could make me feel both accused and put down. I don't believe "vile" is a positive, supportive adjective - see below.
>
> Definitions of *vile* per M-W:
>
> 1 a: morally despicable or abhorrent
> b: physically repulsive : foul
> 2: of little worth or account
> 3: tending to degrade
> 4: disgustingly or utterly bad : obnoxious , contemptible
> ------------------------------
> As for the rest, I prefer not to answer hypothetical questions.
>
> Lou, I think it's probable I didn't answer your question(s), and possible you may have more questions. I'm sorry for my limitations, however, I don't know how to explain this admin action any further. Perhaps another poster, deputy or Dr. Bob can help.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> -- 10derHeart

10derHeart,
You wrote,[...I didn't answer your questions...]
The question that I can not find an answer to is my question as to who are the {others} that you write here that could feel put down by reading Bayleaf's statement identifying what she sees that you sanctioned her for.
When I read your statement here that {others} could feel put down by reading Bayleaf's statement of identification as to what she sees in the poster's statement about Jews, and then try to understand your statement that {others} could feel put down by what BayLeaf posted as to her identification of the speech in question, I ask myself who the {others} could be. And then I ask myself if what Bayleaf wrote and was sanctioned for could be seen by others as something as uncivil as what the poster of the statement that Bayleaf identified was sanctioned for.
Then in what you wrote in that it is uncivil to post anything that could lead one here to feel accused or put down, I would like for those that are considering posting in this thread or parallel threads to read the aspects in the threads that the links here below bring up and consider the issues presented in any reply here. If you could, then I think that you could have a better ubnderstanding of the issues involved here, including but not limited to what could lead a Jew to feel put down.
Lou
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20070702/msgs/776479.html
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20041109/msgs/429282.html

 

Re: Lou's reply to deputy-eighvhy? » Lou Pilder

Posted by Dinah on December 5, 2008, at 21:56:14

In reply to Lou's reply to deputy-eighvhy? » Deputy 10derHeart, posted by Lou Pilder on December 4, 2008, at 16:28:05

The "others" is the original poster whose post was being described.

 

Lou's request for clarification-phtduck » Dinah

Posted by Lou Pilder on December 9, 2008, at 8:53:45

In reply to Re: Lou's reply to deputy-eighvhy? » Lou Pilder, posted by Dinah on December 5, 2008, at 21:56:14

> The "others" is the original poster whose post was being described.

Dinah,
You wrote,[...the "others" is the original poster...]
I am unsure then as to what your rationale could be to think that the original poster whose post was being identified by Bayleaf in relation to Jews was of the nature as to cause the original poster to feel put down.
This is because there are generally accepted meanings of what constitutes a statement that could lead someone to feel put down. And could it not be that the original poster wound need to be contacted to ask particular questions as to how the statement was perceived by him to make a determinationn as to if the statement by Bayleaf does or does not lead him to feel put down? If you could identify the rationale of what constitutes someone to feel put down that you used here to state that the original poster could feel put down by what Bayleaf posted, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
Lou

 

Lou's request for a redaction and exception-gudfr

Posted by Lou Pilder on December 19, 2008, at 16:27:37

In reply to Lou's request for clarification-phtduck » Dinah, posted by Lou Pilder on December 9, 2008, at 8:53:45

> > The "others" is the original poster whose post was being described.
>
> Dinah,
> You wrote,[...the "others" is the original poster...]
> I am unsure then as to what your rationale could be to think that the original poster whose post was being identified by Bayleaf in relation to Jews was of the nature as to cause the original poster to feel put down.
> This is because there are generally accepted meanings of what constitutes a statement that could lead someone to feel put down. And could it not be that the original poster wound need to be contacted to ask particular questions as to how the statement was perceived by him to make a determinationn as to if the statement by Bayleaf does or does not lead him to feel put down? If you could identify the rationale of what constitutes someone to feel put down that you used here to state that the original poster could feel put down by what Bayleaf posted, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
> Lou

Mr. Hsiung and his deputies,
I am requesting that the sanction to Bayleaf for what IMO that there is the potential for a Jew to consider to be a statement by her to be standing up for Jews here. I am requesting that the sanction to her to please be civil be redacted until a member of the administration posts here their criteria used to write here that Bayleaf's post could lead the original poster to feel put down.
I am also requesting that I be allowed to post more than 3 consecutive posts here to respond to the administration sanctioning IMO a statement that comes to the aid of Jews here and writing that Bayleaf's statement could lead the original poster to feel put down until the administration posts their criteria used to support such. And if they do post a criteria, then my posts could be redacted and then I could have the opportunity to then respond to the criteria that they post if they do post such. I think that the exception to allow me to post more than 3 consecutive post here could be good for the communty as a whole.
Lou Pilder

 

Re: Lou's request for a redaction and exception-gudfr

Posted by Dena on December 22, 2008, at 1:26:16

In reply to Lou's request for a redaction and exception-gudfr, posted by Lou Pilder on December 19, 2008, at 16:27:37

This strikes me as utterly ridiculous.

Rules for the sake of rules are backfiring, and creating a contentious environment, where no one seems to notice that someone is indeed being, as well as feeling, "put down": Lou.

Rules have been created just to censor him, just to limit him. How does anyone imagine they'd feel in his shoes? "Put down" certainly comes to mind.

This reminds me of "Animal Planet"... where everyone is equal, but some are more equal than others...! Beyond absurd.

This situation has put Lou into a state of perpetually reminding those who make the rules, to abide by their very own rules ... sort of a posters' purgatory.

Is this some sort of bizzare experiment, designed to provoke others into insanity?

Where's common sense and human dignity...?

Where's mere *kindness*..?

Shalom (something I wish for all here),
Dena

 

Please be civil » Dena

Posted by Deputy Dinah on December 22, 2008, at 14:57:13

In reply to Re: Lou's request for a redaction and exception-gudfr, posted by Dena on December 22, 2008, at 1:26:16

> Rules have been created just to censor him, just to limit him.

> Is this some sort of bizzare experiment, designed to provoke others into insanity?

Please don't jump to conclusions or post anything that could lead others, including Dr. Bob and the deputies, to feel accused or put down.

If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ:

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil

Dr. Bob is always free to override deputy decisions. His email is on the bottom of each page. Please feel free to email him if you believe this decision was made in error.

Dinah, acting as deputy to Dr. Bob

 

Re: Please be civil

Posted by Dena on December 22, 2008, at 21:51:18

In reply to Please be civil » Dena, posted by Deputy Dinah on December 22, 2008, at 14:57:13

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So - the one who points out the problem *becomes* the problem...?

Reprimanding, censoring, or even banishing me, would not solve the problem, when the probelm is inherent with the system.

Shalom, Dena


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