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Posted by stjames on August 13, 2003, at 10:58:05
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/psycho/20030711/msgs/250402.html
Redirecting just the original post kills the thread, at least it has in the past. Do you expect people who post before you redirect just the first post in the thread to then go back a redirect their threads ?
Posted by Dr. Bob on August 13, 2003, at 19:56:21
In reply to ? about re-directs, posted by stjames on August 13, 2003, at 10:58:05
> Redirecting just the original post kills the thread, at least it has in the past. Do you expect people who post before you redirect just the first post in the thread to then go back a redirect their threads ?
Just one post without those before or after it, you mean? Now I'm not saying this is necessarily the best way to do it, but the way I do it, I only repost a bunch of posts when I'm deleting them. If I'm leaving them there, I'll just repost one, usually the latest one.
Is your concern that people on the new board might miss out on other posts in the original thread? The way it works now, the the first post on the new board automatically includes a link to the post on the original board that it's a copy of, so it's easy to get from the new thread back to the original thread.
No, I don't expect anyone else to do anything. But if they wanted to, that would be fine...
Bob
Posted by stjames on August 13, 2003, at 23:30:27
In reply to Re: re-directs, posted by Dr. Bob on August 13, 2003, at 19:56:21
I think leaving the posts in place when the thread splits just encourages people to post in the wrong place. Esp. when it is heated & in general this requires reminders from the moderators. Leave one post where
the thread started, indicating the thread split has moved. No different than what you do now. Remove the links from the original board & relocate them to the new board.
Posted by Dr. Bob on August 14, 2003, at 19:34:23
In reply to Re: re-directs, posted by stjames on August 13, 2003, at 23:30:27
> I think leaving the posts in place when the thread splits just encourages people to post in the wrong place.
Well, the redirect is right there in the thread listing, people don't even have to click on it. And it's less work this way. Also, sometimes posts are only partly off-topic, so what would I do then?
Bob
Posted by stjames on August 14, 2003, at 22:48:53
In reply to Re: re-directs, posted by Dr. Bob on August 14, 2003, at 19:34:23
> > I think leaving the posts in place when the thread splits just encourages people to post in the wrong place.
>
> Well, the redirect is right there in the thread listing, people don't even have to click on it. And it's less work this way. Also, sometimes posts are only partly off-topic, so what would I do then?
>
> BobMove the posts that are off topic, and part of the new topic. Leave the ones that are mixed.
Be flexable ?
Posted by Dr. Bob on August 15, 2003, at 23:28:43
In reply to Re: re-directs, posted by stjames on August 14, 2003, at 22:48:53
> Move the posts that are off topic, and part of the new topic. Leave the ones that are mixed.
But what if someone replies to an off-topic post with an on-topic post? If I move the off-topic one, then the on-topic one is just kind of out there...
Bob
Posted by stjames on August 16, 2003, at 13:45:25
In reply to Re: re-directs, posted by Dr. Bob on August 15, 2003, at 23:28:43
> > Move the posts that are off topic, and part of the new topic. Leave the ones that are mixed.
>
> But what if someone replies to an off-topic post with an on-topic post? If I move the off-topic one, then the on-topic one is just kind of out there...
>
> BobWhat does this have to do with what we are talking about ? Clearly you don't want user input. Nevermind.
Posted by Dinah on August 16, 2003, at 14:05:43
In reply to Re: re-directs, posted by stjames on August 16, 2003, at 13:45:25
I think he's talking about thread integrity and maintaining links.
Plus, you know, everyone sees these redirect questions differently. Dr. Bob recently got a lot of heat for redirecting.
Is there a particular thread that exemplifies what you're asking about?
Posted by stjames on August 16, 2003, at 15:04:54
In reply to Re: re-directs » stjames, posted by Dinah on August 16, 2003, at 14:05:43
Dr. Bob recently got a lot of heat for redirecting.
More the reason to LISTEN to input. That is not happening and I am not intrested in your questions by proxy. Nothing personal to you Dinah.
Posted by Dinah on August 16, 2003, at 15:32:02
In reply to Re: re-directs, posted by stjames on August 16, 2003, at 15:04:54
How could I possibly take that personally? You know, I was just interested because I do redirects sometimes too.
But never mind. Forgive my intrusion.
Posted by stjames on August 17, 2003, at 9:54:23
In reply to Re: re-directs » stjames, posted by Dinah on August 16, 2003, at 15:32:02
I was just interested because I do redirects sometimes too.
You do them in the manner I describe; at least the ones I remember. Thanks.Say a discussion starts on the med board and you see the discussion has split into social issues. You move these links to the social board in such a way that the linlks are no longer on the meds board (but your leave a note indicating discussion for <whatever> has moved to social) If a user loads social, the threads for med appear on the main social page.
Users here are not, generally, web savy. I understand the way bob does things. But I have a problem when users give input and bob just justifies his way of doing things. We are the users, incicating we don't understand. justifacation at this point reads as "your user imput is not important. Do it my way"
Posted by Dr. Bob on August 18, 2003, at 3:38:51
In reply to Re: re-directs, posted by stjames on August 17, 2003, at 9:54:23
> I understand the way bob does things. But I have a problem when users give input and bob just justifies his way of doing things. We are the users, incicating we don't understand. justifacation at this point reads as "your user imput is not important. Do it my way"
If we don't understand each other, that's one thing. If we do, but don't agree, I wish you'd take it as "your user input is important, but I have administrator concerns that I think are important, too, and after trying to weigh the various pros and cons, I'm not going to make a change at this time".
Bob
Posted by stjames on August 18, 2003, at 11:44:42
In reply to Re: re-directs, posted by Dr. Bob on August 18, 2003, at 3:38:51
> If we don't understand each other, that's one thing. If we do, but don't agree, I wish you'd take it as "your user input is important, but I have administrator concerns that I think are important, too, and after trying to weigh the various pros and cons, I'm not going to make a change at this time".
>
> BobYes, that would be an option, but in this case you
history here I cannot help but feel otherwise.
Posted by Dr. Bob on August 18, 2003, at 11:53:47
In reply to Re: re-directs, posted by stjames on August 18, 2003, at 11:44:42
> Yes, that would be an option, but in this case you
> history here I cannot help but feel otherwise.OK. I'm sorry you feel that way, but I do hope to keep getting your user input. Best wishes,
Bob
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