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All this hype about Psilocybin and my experience

Posted by denise1904 on May 23, 2022, at 11:20:57

With all this hype about Psilocybin, I'm just wondering how many people on this board have tried it.

Around 6 years ago I was accepted on a study for Psilocybin at the Imperial College and then backed out as I was feeling anxious about it.

I then changed my mind and tried to get on another study but didn't meet the criteria.

So, I managed to get hold of Magic Mushrooms. Being quite nervous about taking them, I took them with a male friend (who had taken them before).

I came off SSRIs for about four days as I wanted to be completely clean when I took them.

That evening I was all set for the experience with my friend. I took a small amount to start with and felt nothing, so took some more and still felt nothing, so eventually I was eating bowl fulls of Shrooms until I started to have visuals and feel like I was tripping.

I didn't have any mystical experiences on it, I had a good time, couldn't stop laughing and felt like a huge weight just dropped from my chest. But that was it. The next day I felt back to normal, with the same low feelings.

I've also tried LSD with my friend since then. Again I seemed to have to take massive amounts compared to my friend to get the same affect as him (who by the way is 6ft 3 and built like a brick house where as I'm slender and 5'5. I had no mystical experiences on LSD either, nor did I remember events from my childhood that might have triggered off depression and anxiety in later years. However, my friend has this cross legged Budha in his statue and I could see tears rolling down the face of the statue and this immense feeling of sadness about the world and yet acceptance. I felt that I could have reached out and touched those tears.

I'm just wondering if anyone has any ideas why this is? Also, wondering if anyone has tried Shrooms and felt that it has helped their depression.

I read this hype about Psilocybin now and they make it sound like the cure all, Like it somehow erradicates depression and anxiety and heals you completely. I long for this kind of cure (as I imagine most people on this board do) and so it was so disappointing for it not to work for me. I'm asking myself should I try and get on a proper study or does the fact that I've tried large amounts of Shrooms with little success indicate that I wouldn't be a psilocybin trial responder.


Denise

 

Re: All this hype about Psilocybin and my experience

Posted by Hugh on May 23, 2022, at 11:38:50

In reply to All this hype about Psilocybin and my experience, posted by denise1904 on May 23, 2022, at 11:20:57

I've tried psilocybin three times and LSD twice. Four out of these five times, I had very pleasant, but not life-changing experiences. Only once did psychedelics (psilocybin) have a lasting effect on me. I had been deeply depressed for months, and had been feeling suicidal for weeks. This psilocybin trip was my only bad trip, but it lifted me out of my suicidal depression. My suicidal ideation vanished as a result of this trip. I didn't become happy. I just went back to being my normal, mildly to moderately depressed self, and it would be years before I would become deeply depressed again.

 

Re: All this hype about Psilocybin and my experience

Posted by SLS on May 23, 2022, at 12:19:56

In reply to Re: All this hype about Psilocybin and my experience, posted by Hugh on May 23, 2022, at 11:38:50

Don't you have to be guided by a facilitator during the experience in order to navigate your specific and unique issues?


- Scott

 

Re: All this hype about Psilocybin and my experience » SLS

Posted by Hugh on May 23, 2022, at 12:50:31

In reply to Re: All this hype about Psilocybin and my experience, posted by SLS on May 23, 2022, at 12:19:56

The next time I try psychedelics, it will be with a facilitator. It's best to wear an eye mask during the trip, which I never did during my five trips. The eye mask helps you to have an inward journey rather than an outward one. (During one of my LSD trips, I spent a long time marveling at the stunningly beautiful complexity of carpet fibers.)

> Don't you have to be guided by a facilitator during the experience in order to navigate your specific and unique issues?
>
>
> - Scott

 

Re: All this hype about Psilocybin and my experience

Posted by sigismund on May 24, 2022, at 0:55:43

In reply to Re: All this hype about Psilocybin and my experience » SLS, posted by Hugh on May 23, 2022, at 12:50:31

1970 was my first year at university and both LSD and psilocybin were available and often taken. Hundreds of times for me.

After all that I have the hang of what they do. I don't feel the urge to take them much now though I could.

But I do think they are good for me.

They somehow affect one's thinking in ways I cannot put into words.

 

Re: All this hype about Psilocybin and my experience » sigismund

Posted by SLS on May 24, 2022, at 6:43:45

In reply to Re: All this hype about Psilocybin and my experience, posted by sigismund on May 24, 2022, at 0:55:43

Hi, Sigi.

> 1970 was my first year at university and both LSD and psilocybin were available and often taken. Hundreds of times for me.
>
> After all that I have the hang of what they do. I don't feel the urge to take them much now though I could.
>
> But I do think they are good for me.
>
> They somehow affect one's thinking in ways I cannot put into words.


Is there such a thing as "flashbacks"? What would be your guess as to what percentage of people who take LSD have flashbacks? For those who experience them, how long do they linger for? Months? Years? Indefinitely?

Thanks for any insights you have to offer.
ts- Scott

 

Re: All this hype about Psilocybin and my experience

Posted by sigismund on May 25, 2022, at 1:29:54

In reply to Re: All this hype about Psilocybin and my experience » sigismund, posted by SLS on May 24, 2022, at 6:43:45

Flashbacks are not something I've experienced.

The trip is so profound that real fear may recur perhaps.

If those drugs are taken repeatedly and with chronic marijuana use naturally one feels dazed.

People who take psychedelics all the time report increasing occurrence of negative experiences.

These drugs cannot be used in an instrumental way. More like giving yourself up to the experience, allowing it to happen. For me fear was often there at the beginning. I'd lie down and it would pass.

 

Re: All this hype about Psilocybin and my experience » sigismund

Posted by Jay2112 on June 1, 2022, at 16:27:52

In reply to Re: All this hype about Psilocybin and my experience, posted by sigismund on May 25, 2022, at 1:29:54

> Flashbacks are not something I've experienced.
>
> The trip is so profound that real fear may recur perhaps.
>
> If those drugs are taken repeatedly and with chronic marijuana use naturally one feels dazed.
>
> People who take psychedelics all the time report increasing occurrence of negative experiences.
>
> These drugs cannot be used in an instrumental way. More like giving yourself up to the experience, allowing it to happen. For me fear was often there at the beginning. I'd lie down and it would pass.

I personally think the psychedelics are best used in/for trauma, grief, and existential depression. The type of depression and fear like people with a terminal illness face. I best describe it as a silent lucidity, which makes us feel less scared, less hurt, and a warmth in that this life is MUCH more than our regular conscience can comprehend. And, it makes us more LOVING, emoting love like that we had at birth. The anti-drug people want us to conform to be robots in a greedy, capitalist system. Work ourselves with the mundane to death. Retire, than look forward to death...like an assembly line. We spend all of our lives, looking back to our birth, forward to our demise. F*&k that!!! We have an endless universe, and after death, I don't think our minds could EVER comprehend what is ahead. Maybe nothing, but maybe some lucid experience...maybe we just become light, an eternal energy. Sh*t, I don't know...nobody does. But, I WANT to access the parts of our brain that 'regular' living doesn't. "What's so bad about Peace, Love, and Happiness?"

Jay

 

Re: All this hype about Psilocybin and my experience » Jay2112

Posted by SLS on June 1, 2022, at 16:51:13

In reply to Re: All this hype about Psilocybin and my experience » sigismund, posted by Jay2112 on June 1, 2022, at 16:27:52

Hi, Jay.

You're pretty cool.

- Scott


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> I personally think the psychedelics are best used in/for trauma, grief, and existential depression. The type of depression and fear like people with a terminal illness face. I best describe it as a silent lucidity, which makes us feel less scared, less hurt, and a warmth in that this life is MUCH more than our regular conscience can comprehend. And, it makes us more LOVING, emoting love like that we had at birth. The anti-drug people want us to conform to be robots in a greedy, capitalist system. Work ourselves with the mundane to death. Retire, than look forward to death...like an assembly line. We spend all of our lives, looking back to our birth, forward to our demise. F*&k that!!! We have an endless universe, and after death, I don't think our minds could EVER comprehend what is ahead. Maybe nothing, but maybe some lucid experience...maybe we just become light, an eternal energy. Sh*t, I don't know...nobody does. But, I WANT to access the parts of our brain that 'regular' living doesn't. "What's so bad about Peace, Love, and Happiness?"
>
> Jay
>
>

 

Re: All this hype about Psilocybin and my experience

Posted by Lamdage22 on June 2, 2022, at 1:19:05

In reply to Re: All this hype about Psilocybin and my experience » Jay2112, posted by SLS on June 1, 2022, at 16:51:13

> "What's so bad about Peace, Love, and Happiness?"

Not as profitable?

 

Re: All this hype about Psilocybin and my experience » SLS

Posted by Jay2112 on June 2, 2022, at 18:17:01

In reply to Re: All this hype about Psilocybin and my experience » Jay2112, posted by SLS on June 1, 2022, at 16:51:13

Hey, thanks Scott. :) That honestly means a lot coming from you. I don't know *how many* times I have used that amazing drug description chart you put up on the site years ago. You are a major braniac on all things, psychiatry,neurology especially!! It's amazing how many years we have been on this site, and it is always a nice thing to see your posts.

You know, I think it was Dr. Peter D. Kramer I was reading, who said that if we are going to go through the experience of taking psych drugs, we mind as well damn expect that we can, and should, go for 120 percent remission. That is, better than 'better'. That is why I see yours and other's endless 'racing against the night', NEVER giving up, to be such a positive influence.

So, as Neil Young sings, "..keep on rockin' in the free world"..and hopefully it WILL stay 'free'.

Jay


> Hi, Jay.
>
> You're pretty cool.
>
> - Scott
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>
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>
> > I personally think the psychedelics are best used in/for trauma, grief, and existential depression. The type of depression and fear like people with a terminal illness face. I best describe it as a silent lucidity, which makes us feel less scared, less hurt, and a warmth in that this life is MUCH more than our regular conscience can comprehend. And, it makes us more LOVING, emoting love like that we had at birth. The anti-drug people want us to conform to be robots in a greedy, capitalist system. Work ourselves with the mundane to death. Retire, than look forward to death...like an assembly line. We spend all of our lives, looking back to our birth, forward to our demise. F*&k that!!! We have an endless universe, and after death, I don't think our minds could EVER comprehend what is ahead. Maybe nothing, but maybe some lucid experience...maybe we just become light, an eternal energy. Sh*t, I don't know...nobody does. But, I WANT to access the parts of our brain that 'regular' living doesn't. "What's so bad about Peace, Love, and Happiness?"
> >
> > Jay
> >
> >
>
>

 

Re: All this hype about Psilocybin and my experience » Lamdage22

Posted by Jay2112 on June 2, 2022, at 18:19:22

In reply to Re: All this hype about Psilocybin and my experience, posted by Lamdage22 on June 2, 2022, at 1:19:05

> > "What's so bad about Peace, Love, and Happiness?"
>
> Not as profitable?
>
>

PERFECT...so perfect point, Lamdage!!

Jay :)

 

Re: All this hype about Psilocybin and my experience

Posted by Lamdage22 on June 7, 2022, at 10:49:35

In reply to Re: All this hype about Psilocybin and my experience » Lamdage22, posted by Jay2112 on June 2, 2022, at 18:19:22

Health is also not profitable.


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