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Messianic Narcissism?

Posted by Lamdage22 on December 30, 2021, at 3:57:24

I asked my mother yesterday if there is any story that is too crazy for her to believe. She said that she didn't believe our ex-chancellor was recruited by satanists, with tonation like she now knows that chancellor was recruited. She didn't even understand the question. I believe she has messianic narcissism and/or psychosis. She needs treatment, however she is very unlikely to seek it. I am at my witts end. I cannot listen to that b*llsh*t anymore. And I wont.

She believes 90% of conspiracy theories that exist about COVID. And she simply knows they are true when she reads them. Reason is useless.

 

Re: Messianic Narcissism?

Posted by NKP on December 30, 2021, at 8:01:16

In reply to Messianic Narcissism?, posted by Lamdage22 on December 30, 2021, at 3:57:24

My mother also believes all the Covid conspiracy theories that get circulated via WhatsApp and Facebook. It is very frustrating and is beginning to harm our relationship.

 

Re: Messianic Narcissism?

Posted by Lamdage22 on December 30, 2021, at 8:21:46

In reply to Re: Messianic Narcissism?, posted by NKP on December 30, 2021, at 8:01:16

> It is very frustrating and is beginning to harm our relationship.

Same here.

 

Re: Messianic Narcissism?

Posted by Lamdage22 on December 30, 2021, at 8:26:10

In reply to Re: Messianic Narcissism?, posted by NKP on December 30, 2021, at 8:01:16

Mine always wants me to approve of her clairvoyant abilies. That strikes me as narcissistic. I am not saying anything about corona to her, but she makes it a sport to try to convince me.

 

Re: Messianic Narcissism?

Posted by Christ_empowered on January 3, 2022, at 19:44:51

In reply to Re: Messianic Narcissism?, posted by NKP on December 30, 2021, at 8:01:16

not to play amateur sociologist here, but...

frustrating as this is when it plays out in the lives of individuals in one's life, I think the problem itself is social. I don't know anything about German culture, but in the US...

there's been a long, long, long retreat...inwards, towards feeling and emotion and away from reason, logic, -science- , etc. One can see it in religion, even...

the -rapid- growth of Charismatic groups, for instance, coupled with the decline of "mainline" Protestant groups. That concerns me at a number of levels because...

the Charismatic groups have lent themselves well to the new hardline "conservatism" (read: marching towards fascism...) that somehow often claims a Christian facade.

anyway, a lot of stuff...retreat into fantasy and conspiracy theories, distrust of science and scientists and intellectuals as a whole...

has been going on in US culture for some time now. I seem to recall reading "The Culture of Narcissism" sometime ago, and now...

I kind of wonder if things have both changed and accelerated, so what was once perceived as "narcissism," at a cultural level, has become a sort of fascism, covered in layer upon layer of fantasy and denial of reality and authoritarian (but oddly emotional and therapeutic, it seems) forms of religion, and...and...

yeah. point is, when dealing with this as with many other problems with others...

without sounding cliche or anything, try to remember that the old mantra, "the personal is political," is not The Ultimate Truth, but it is worth taking into consideration, as one deals with people taken in by fascist fairytales.

 

Re: Messianic Narcissism?

Posted by undopaminergic on January 5, 2022, at 10:32:40

In reply to Re: Messianic Narcissism?, posted by Christ_empowered on January 3, 2022, at 19:44:51

>
> without sounding cliche or anything, try to remember that the old mantra, "the personal is political," is not The Ultimate Truth, but it is worth taking into consideration, as one deals with people taken in by fascist fairytales.
>

National socialism (Nazism) can be seen as a form of *collective* narcissism. Glorifying and aggrandising the race in relation to other races, in place of the individual relative to other individuals.

-undopaminergic

 

Re: Messianic Narcissism?

Posted by Lamdage22 on January 5, 2022, at 10:59:18

In reply to Re: Messianic Narcissism?, posted by undopaminergic on January 5, 2022, at 10:32:40

The family members I deem narcissistic are racist.

 

Re: Messianic Narcissism?

Posted by undopaminergic on January 5, 2022, at 11:29:12

In reply to Re: Messianic Narcissism?, posted by Lamdage22 on January 5, 2022, at 10:59:18

> The family members I deem narcissistic are racist.

Interesting. It appears to me, as an outside observer, that racism is taboo in Germany nowadays.

-undopaminergic

 

Re: Messianic Narcissism?

Posted by Lamdage22 on January 5, 2022, at 11:40:45

In reply to Re: Messianic Narcissism?, posted by undopaminergic on January 5, 2022, at 11:29:12

It is but they dont care


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