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Posted by alchemy on June 24, 2019, at 19:51:29
I have 20 years of googling and study related to my depression. I want to share my unique experience related to depression after eating. This isn't the distinct cause of my depression - but I am positive that there is a correlation between a large meal and/or saturated fat consumption. I found a couple other posts online for some that have had this same experience, although there may just be a few of us. (Age = wisdom = all bodies are different)
My body's reaction stood out more when PROBIOTICS made the food reactions worse (specifically the kind that are "supposed" to help your mood).
For a short while I wondered if cashews were doing something to my mood because I noticed if I ate a lot of them I was more down in an hour or two. I already noticed that if I had fatty meat, especially with a large meal, I headed for a definite depression in a couple of hours.
My best guess is it is due to the gram-negative bacteria in my gut that release endotoxins/lipopolysaccharides - which trigger an immune reaction (we all know that the immune system can affect the mood). Saturated fat increases these endotoxins. Studies have been done that show injecting endotoxins = depression.
I also now realize that this is probably related to why I got depressed when trying to go Keto (besides carbs = tryptophan). I have always not physically felt well when I eat sugar, even a banana. So I assumed carbs were the problem - nope, it's the fat.
I also think I have SIBO (sm intestinal bacterial overgrowth). Taking the antibiotic flagyl made me depressed (I think it temporarily increases endotoxins when it kills the bacteria.)
The Omega 3s (fish) are supposed to lower the endotoxins. So fish and just eating less food improves my mood. Still depressed, just not as depressed. And the less depression the better!
Posted by alchemy on June 24, 2019, at 20:02:56
In reply to Depression after Eating - Microbiome, posted by alchemy on June 24, 2019, at 19:51:29
I would also like to add that I still take meds. Alternative health doctors have screwed me up more than helped. Hopefully science one day advances to where there are solutions for every treatment resistant case.
Posted by beckett2 on June 27, 2019, at 6:49:09
In reply to Depression after Eating - Microbiome, posted by alchemy on June 24, 2019, at 19:51:29
Interesting. My acupuncturist would say (among many other things) certain heavy foods (like nuts)can congest the liver a big deal in TCM. Does a little red meat help you?
> I also think I have SIBO (sm intestinal bacterial overgrowth). Taking the antibiotic flagyl made me depressed (I think it temporarily increases endotoxins when it kills the bacteria.)
When I took an antiviral I became suicidal within days, and I havent found an explanation.
Posted by alchemy on June 27, 2019, at 19:28:55
In reply to Re: Depression after Eating - Microbiome » alchemy, posted by beckett2 on June 27, 2019, at 6:49:09
> Interesting. My acupuncturist would say (among many other things) certain heavy foods (like nuts)can congest the liver a big deal in TCM. Does a little red meat help you?
---- Sometimes red meat just hits the spot, everything is so complicated.> When I took an antiviral I became suicidal within days, and I havent found an explanation.
---Fascinating. Wikipedia says some of the antivirals don't focus on the pathogen but stimulate the immune system. This would be something like Interferon, which science has known for a long time can cause depression.
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