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should psychiatry be restricted to -severe- cases?

Posted by Christ_empowered on February 6, 2019, at 10:49:36

its not my idea. E. Fuller Torrey...the antipsychiatry shrink turned lock 'em up, drug 'em up activist...has proposed restricting psych treatment to the severely ill. I disagree with him on most things (forced treatment, for 1), but I think he makes a valid point here...


however, even in "Bipolar I" and the Schizo-spectrum disorders, there are many who just don't benefit from the drugs and such. what is to be done, then? reduce the prison population by bringing back the state hospital, version 2.0 ?

so, I don't know. I do see, however, that even in my area (not terribly urban, not fabulous), the "well-regarded" and "prominent" psychiatrists...don't treat severe mental illness. And the psych docs who do treat severe mental illness...often do so with contempt towards the "patients." ugh.

its been easier for me, because of my parents' status and such. in my area, one's status or the status of one's family is a -huge- factor in psych treatment, a fact that only dawned on me after I'd reconciled with my now well established family. in other areas...

it seems that state hospitals are still a thing, as they say, so it takes more status and clout to effectively protect against the force of that end of psychiatry. ugh. shrinks...

can't live with 'em, can't live without 'em. LOL.

 

Re: should psychiatry be restricted to -severe- cases?

Posted by bleauberry on February 6, 2019, at 12:32:44

In reply to should psychiatry be restricted to -severe- cases?, posted by Christ_empowered on February 6, 2019, at 10:49:36

I've had a long journey that has involved all aspects of psychiatry and all angles of it. With that in mind, I have formed my own world-view opinions.

My opinion is that the vast majority of psychiatric patients should be treated with natural supplements and herbs as first line treatments. And that prescriptions are second-tier when all else has failed. Basically, the exact opposite of the way the world is today.

That of course depends on the severity of the case. Obviously if you've got a deranged crazy delusional violent looney tune totally out of control, maybe that person needs an immediate antipsychotic or benzodiazepine.

I also think first-line treatments should include inflammation screening, genetic screening, toxin screening, mold screening, diet management. From that information you can get a decent big picture view from a distance. And then it's not such a mystery when you have to make decisions on what to prescribe the patient.

Here's one example. I've seen half dozen similar examples. These are people I know, work with, personal experiences. This one girl had unexplained brain fog, slight balance problems, and a down mood, all for no reason. And she had some minor skin issues that she was trying to get treated, unsuccessfully. She was young and healthy. Her doctor tested her for gluten sensitivities and then put her on a gluten free diet. ALL of her problems were gone within a month.

Had that same girl not gotten a gluten diagnosis, what you do you think would have happened? Well, let's take a walk down that road.
1.She might have been subjected to a variety of expensive and useless tests for the brain fog and nothing would be found. Who knows if they would prescribe her something. Maybe a stimulant.
2.Balance issues. Again, probably a sequence of expensive tests with no helpful results. Maybe she gets prescribed some medication to help with balance. I don't know.
3. For the depression she gets Zoloft, Prozac, or Lexapro, likely. Poor girl just lost her sex life from that.And you can imagine if her brain fog and balance were issues to begin with, just imagine how much worse those get when she has to withdraw from these SSRIs that did not work.
4.For the skin issues she gets referred to a specialist who does more testing and is prescribed a variety of medicitions and creams, all of which don't thoroughly do the job.

And all it really took was avoiding swallowing any food that had wheat in it. That was a complete total cure.

My own case is another good example. I didn't need Paxil, prozac, Zoloft, celexa, lexapro, Effexor, zyprexa, seroquel, abilify, parnate, depakote, lithium, busprione, xanax, valium, or any other drugs that were actually prescribed to me and I took them. What did I need? Simple. Just a good diagnosis. Which was lyme, not depression. Depression was only the symptom. What I needed was Doxycylcine, rifampin, Ceftin, Levaquiin, Factive, and a few others, but with the benefit of hindsight, I could probably have covered the entire journey much easier with just Minocycline and Rifampin.

Anyway I think prescription psychiatric meds have a definite role in the world, a very important role, but that that role is being abused and mismanaged in today's medical community, generally speaking. There are some good clinicians out there.

 

Re: should psychiatry be restricted to -severe- cases?

Posted by LarsHoney1 on February 11, 2019, at 17:00:03

In reply to should psychiatry be restricted to -severe- cases?, posted by Christ_empowered on February 6, 2019, at 10:49:36

The least we can do, is fully inform the public about all known effects these chemicals can have on the brain, mind and body. End the sweeping 🧹 psychiatrys victims under the rug. Dr David Healy stated that to deny the suffering, and death of these most unfortunate victims of psychiatry, is akin to hollocaust denial. That line sounded a bit off the wall to me at first. But after thinking about it, I believe hes on par.

I developed HypoPituitarism while taking these chemicals. And it has tormented me. While Eli Lilly, doctors and hospitals only got richer.


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