Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 1099908

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I used to come on this board a lot back in 2001

Posted by meltingpot on July 26, 2018, at 11:51:42

Hi,

I used to come on this board a lot back in 2001 when I was searching for answers and there are so many nice, helpful people on here. Especially SLS and Linkadge and EdUK. Pippa. I'm still searching for answers and I still lurk on this site now and again.

I rarely participate and I sometimes feel guilty because I don't help anyone on here like some people have helped me. I guess I don't really say a lot because I don't feel very reassured myself about hope for the future, especially when it comes to treating mental health illness. I also don't think there is any rhyme or reason as to why one drug can affect you awfully and another can help. There doesn't seem to be any scientific rationale.

I used to respond so well in my 20s to 20mg of Seroxat and now that amount makes me feel horrendous, I can't think straight, I feel sick, just want to lie around. I take 40mg and those symptoms seem to go away. I have no idea why.

Anyway, I just wanted to say thank you to anyone who has helped me in the past. I will try and post a bit more to offer support if I can.


Denise

 

Re: I used to come on this board a lot back in 2001 » meltingpot

Posted by SLS on July 26, 2018, at 12:54:48

In reply to I used to come on this board a lot back in 2001, posted by meltingpot on July 26, 2018, at 11:51:42

Just to stop in and say hi is enough, Denise.

How are you doing now, overall?

Your reports are extrememly valuable.

I have been having an extremely difficult time lately. I discontinued Parnate because my response to it was only partial and inadequate. Unfortunately, in a rush to start something new, I tapered it too fast and experienced an intense, suicidal depression. The depression has modererated, but I am now sensitive to serotonin reuptake inhibitors. Both Trintellix and Effexor produce a zombie state that is similar to what you describe when you take the lower dosage of paroxetine. My reaction to Effexor was particular severe. I have restarted Trintellix, but at a very low dosage. Hopefully, my brain will settle down and I can avoid provoking adverse cognitive reactions.


- Scott

 

Re: I used to come on this board a lot back in 2001 » meltingpot

Posted by ed_uk2010 on July 26, 2018, at 18:48:48

In reply to I used to come on this board a lot back in 2001, posted by meltingpot on July 26, 2018, at 11:51:42

That's great to hear you were helped. Thanks for posting :) 0 (sorry this is so brief, I really should be in bed!)

 

Re: I used to come on this board a lot back in 2001

Posted by rjlockhart37 on July 26, 2018, at 20:56:58

In reply to Re: I used to come on this board a lot back in 2001 » meltingpot, posted by ed_uk2010 on July 26, 2018, at 18:48:48

yeah i remember you, earlier posts, i started posting in 2003, but i didn't become an active till 2005, glad you found good board, i've just stayed here, i didn't really go to other boards, roots are too deep here

 

Re: I used to come on this board a lot back in 2001

Posted by Lamdage22 on July 27, 2018, at 8:46:37

In reply to Re: I used to come on this board a lot back in 2001 » meltingpot, posted by SLS on July 26, 2018, at 12:54:48

Hi Scott, where you overly activated? on Trintellix and Effexor?

 

Re: I used to come on this board a lot back in 2001

Posted by meltingpot on July 27, 2018, at 9:19:41

In reply to Re: I used to come on this board a lot back in 2001 » meltingpot, posted by SLS on July 26, 2018, at 12:54:48

Hi Scott,

I'm so sorry to hear that your experienced an intense suicidal reaction. How did you get the depression under control again?

Are you hoping to replace the Parnate with Trintellix?

I hope the Trintellix starts to work for you.

I wish somebody could find a cure for these horrible illnesses. I help out at a cancer research shop. People are always collecting money and doing things to get the funding for more research for Cancer but hardly anything seems to be done for mental health.

I've not had Cancer so I'm lucky in that respect but sometimes I think that suicidal depression is the worst thing you can go through.


Denise

 

Re: I used to come on this board a lot back in 2001

Posted by meltingpot on July 27, 2018, at 9:22:37

In reply to Re: I used to come on this board a lot back in 2001, posted by Lamdage22 on July 27, 2018, at 8:46:37

Hi Lamdage,

Yes, my roots are probably with this board as well. Just a shame that so many people are still on here after years and haven't got completely better. Still struggling with the same thing and we don't even know what it is.

Denise

 

Re: I used to come on this board a lot back in 2001 » Lamdage22

Posted by SLS on July 27, 2018, at 10:01:03

In reply to Re: I used to come on this board a lot back in 2001, posted by Lamdage22 on July 27, 2018, at 8:46:37

> Hi Scott, where you overly activated? on Trintellix and Effexor?

I wasn't overly activated. With both drugs, I was cognitively blunted and in a foggy, detached state that made me feel like a zombie. In addition to that, I experienced some background anxiety for which I found it necessary to take Ativan to relieve. When these effects were most severe, I found myself trying to vomit on an empty stomach - dry heaves. It happened when I tried to brush my teeth, so I think it was an exaggerated gag reflex. I also experienced bruxism. I couldn't drive. One can interpret these things as being a sort of hyperserotonergic state. A few days after restarting Trintellix at 2.5 mg/day, adverse cognitive effects returned to a mild degree, but have been gradually dissipating. I am guarded in my optimism, but am not wallowing in pessimism. It has been a real struggle that has taken a toll on me. I was not expecting this. Still, I know that switching drugs was logical. It was my impatience that lead me to discontinue Parnate too rapidly. My guess is that doing this sensitized serotonin receptors and led to the hypersensitivity to Trintellix and Effexor.


- Scott

 

Re: I used to come on this board a lot back in 2001

Posted by SLS on July 27, 2018, at 10:19:04

In reply to Re: I used to come on this board a lot back in 2001, posted by meltingpot on July 27, 2018, at 9:19:41

Hi, Denise.

> I'm so sorry to hear that your experienced an intense suicidal reaction. How did you get the depression under control again?

The suicidal depression was likely a rebound withdrawal reaction. It resolved over time. Adding Trintellix after a 10 day wash-out probably helped get me past the worst of it. Unfortunately, after 10 days of Trintellix therapy, adverse cognitive effects emerged.

> Are you hoping to replace the Parnate with Trintellix?

The plan was to d/c the Parnate and replace it with one of the following:

1. Trintellix
2. Effexor
3. Nardil

> I hope the Trintellix starts to work for you.

Thanks. Because I am starting so low and moving up so gradually, I can expect that it will take 6 weeks to see results. This will frustrate me, but it is the right thing to do given my previous reaction to higher dosages.

We are what we think and feel. Biogenic depression greatly diminishes how we experience life. It is nothing less than an altered state of consciousness. Depression is debilitating, painful, and endless. It makes me feel sub-human.


- Scott

 

Re: I used to come on this board a lot back in 2001 » SLS

Posted by bleauberry on July 28, 2018, at 9:44:06

In reply to Re: I used to come on this board a lot back in 2001, posted by SLS on July 27, 2018, at 10:19:04

De-sensitized receptors you mentioned. That makes sense to me too.

I'm usually pretty sensitive to most things. They say it is common with lymies and other mystery diseases. So I share your frustration and wish the journey was smoother.

I'm trying to get onto St Johns Wort right now, for a variety of reasons not really psychiatric, and it's taken 2 weeks of it daily just to have the lowest dose I could find become invisible - 150mg. Goal is 900mg and that will take me a couple or three months. The first time I went up to 300mg it felt bad, sort of like you said, and I had to back off. Second time was smoother and now 2 days into 300mg.

I sure wish your journey was smoother! You know, when ordinary healthy people face frustrations that's one thing. But when struggling people - like all of us here - face frustrations we're already in a weak state and it isn't fair!

 

Re: I used to come on this board a lot back in 2001 » bleauberry

Posted by SLS on July 28, 2018, at 10:43:50

In reply to Re: I used to come on this board a lot back in 2001 » SLS, posted by bleauberry on July 28, 2018, at 9:44:06

Thanks, BB.

:-)


- Scott

 

To SLS

Posted by meltingpot on July 28, 2018, at 11:55:46

In reply to Re: I used to come on this board a lot back in 2001, posted by SLS on July 27, 2018, at 10:19:04

Scott,

You are so patient! I know what you mean by depression making you feel sub human. I feel like some kind of deranged monster when I'm feeling really bad. It's horrible.

I think I tried Trintellix, another one where too little of it made me feel six and anxious but when I took the full dose I felt better.

I hope it works for you.


Denise


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