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Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety?

Posted by mogger on January 19, 2014, at 11:10:54

Are there any atypical antipsychotic's besides zyprexa, seroquel and risperdal that are good for anxiety and potentially good for OCD/depression as an ad on to an anti depressant? Zyprexa made me emotionless and seroquel has unfortunately helped my depression and anxiety but also has caused restlessness that is too rough to continue. My pdoc added 4mgs of remeron that perhaps has made the restlessness worse but I can't tell nor do I want to decrease remeron as I am not doing too well. My pdoc wants to keep me on an atypical though preferably zyprexa. Thank for your thoughts,

Mogger

Mogger

 

Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety? » mogger

Posted by mogger on January 19, 2014, at 13:42:36

In reply to Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety?, posted by mogger on January 19, 2014, at 11:10:54

Sorry,

Meant to say 45mgs of Remeron. They don't make a 4mg tablet. :)

 

Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety?

Posted by LouisianaSportsman on January 19, 2014, at 21:05:39

In reply to Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety?, posted by mogger on January 19, 2014, at 11:10:54

I am a fan of Latuda, primarily as an add-on. I one day see it becoming the next Abilify (approved as an add-on by the FDA). Abilify is another option.

Also consider Geodon.

As you can see, I am a fan of the third generation antipsychotics. Zyprexa carries a lot of weight. Literally.

 

Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety? » LouisianaSportsman

Posted by mogger on January 19, 2014, at 21:12:27

In reply to Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety?, posted by LouisianaSportsman on January 19, 2014, at 21:05:39

Thank you for your reply. So do you think that Latuda has anti anxiety properties potentially for OCD? Thanks again

 

Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety? » mogger

Posted by phidippus on January 19, 2014, at 21:48:06

In reply to Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety?, posted by mogger on January 19, 2014, at 11:10:54

Abilify and Latuda seem to be the obvious choices. Geodon is also a viable option. I have OCD too and have thrown every atypical I can at it. I'd have to say Abilify provided the most robust response.

Atypicals work in treating OCD by decreasing dopamine levels in the brain, which tend to be increased in those with OCD.

Eric

 

Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety?

Posted by LouisianaSportsman on January 19, 2014, at 21:51:03

In reply to Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety? » LouisianaSportsman, posted by mogger on January 19, 2014, at 21:12:27

I would say that it has no more advantage than Zyprexa (which would like be superior, honestly), but it is good on the side effects part of the equation and would be similar to olanzapine in terms of effectiveness in treating your OCD. Antipsychotics really shouldn't be a first-line remedy for OCD, but both Zyprexa and Latuda are possible candidates.

 

Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety?

Posted by LouisianaSportsman on January 19, 2014, at 21:54:06

In reply to Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety?, posted by LouisianaSportsman on January 19, 2014, at 21:51:03

> I would say that it has no more advantage than Zyprexa (which would like be superior, honestly), but it is good on the side effects part of the equation and would be similar to olanzapine in terms of effectiveness in treating your OCD. Antipsychotics really shouldn't be a first-line remedy for OCD, but both Zyprexa and Latuda are possible candidates.

I meant Seroquel (quietipine ). I was mistaken by your post. I think you can cure the restlessness with a higher dose of it and alteration of your mirtazapine. I think this is a good option since you'r familiar with the drug and have had good benefits. This is the point I was trying to make.

 

Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety? » phidippus

Posted by mogger on January 19, 2014, at 21:54:44

In reply to Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety? » mogger, posted by phidippus on January 19, 2014, at 21:48:06

Thanks Eric I appreciate the response. I must admit I am a bit timid to take abilify as my sister took it for depression (she has absolutely no ocd in her) and while she was on it she actually developed ocd. She would check everything over and over. She went off abilify and it immediately subsided. I am not opposed though. Zyprexa I was on at 5mgs and it was excellent for anxiety but moderate weight gain.

 

Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety? » LouisianaSportsman

Posted by mogger on January 19, 2014, at 21:58:19

In reply to Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety?, posted by LouisianaSportsman on January 19, 2014, at 21:54:06

Thanks for your feedback. I am encouraged to hear that you think the remeron could be a contributing factor to the restlessness.

 

Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety? » mogger

Posted by phidippus on January 23, 2014, at 20:36:39

In reply to Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety? » phidippus, posted by mogger on January 19, 2014, at 21:54:44

Atypicals can cause OCD as they antagonize seratonin receptors. If you're treating your OCD with an AD (except Wellbutrin)then there's not much of a risk of exacerbating your OCD with Abilify.

Invega is my favorite for treating the symptoms of OCD. Zyprexa is good too.

Eric

 

Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety?

Posted by mogger on January 23, 2014, at 21:04:34

In reply to Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety? » mogger, posted by phidippus on January 23, 2014, at 20:36:39

The past year and a half I have battled with seroquel's restlessness and tachardia. My sister does well on it and sleeps soundly. As Louisianasportsman pointed out and is correct the added mirtazipine I am sure contributed to it however even without mirtazipine I still had restlessnesses and depression kicked in this week so my doctor has put me on latuda as he said it is good for depression. Hoping it works! Thanks for all the thoughts and ideas.

Mogger

 

Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety?

Posted by jono_in_adelaide on January 25, 2014, at 6:15:49

In reply to Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety?, posted by mogger on January 23, 2014, at 21:04:34

Geodon 20mg. was found to be as effective as diazepam (Valium) 10mg in relieving pre dental surgery anxiety, and it also helps control depression, usualy with a more conventional antidepressant.

Mirtazapine can be a potent anxiety relieving drug as well as helping depression

 

Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety?

Posted by alfbarks007 on February 10, 2014, at 9:54:21

In reply to Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety? » mogger, posted by phidippus on January 19, 2014, at 21:48:06

Did you try Risperdal yet?
I was trying it at only .25 mgs and had relief from body tension type anxiety and run around thoughts in my head that led to anxiety. Sadly I stopped it for fear of side effects but am trying to work up the courage to go back on it at the .25 but my Dr. felt .50 would be good enough for anxiety. I think a lot of people who quit meds from side effects do so because the high doses are just too high and they don't try lower doses first..just my thoughts but I hardly feel qualified yet to give much advice any then my own experience which was a good one!

 

Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety? » alfbarks007

Posted by mogger on February 10, 2014, at 10:50:49

In reply to Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety?, posted by alfbarks007 on February 10, 2014, at 9:54:21

Thanks for your message. Haven't tried Risperdal. Looking for something to kick the depression too. I am on 40mgs of Latuda right now and it is definitely an interesting medication. Very activating and helpful. No tachycardia which is great but not sure how much it is doing for the depression. Only on it for 12 days so hopefully it will continue to improve.

 

Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety?

Posted by alfbarks007 on February 10, 2014, at 11:22:18

In reply to Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety? » alfbarks007, posted by mogger on February 10, 2014, at 10:50:49

My experience though not depressed but depressed with issues of home life and heath I did find risperdal to help with clearer thinking and to keep me calm when turmoil was around me such as 4 grandkids running around with 2 puppys, homework needing to be done, snacks made and kids arguing, it normally stressed me out to tears almost but I found an inner calm and strength and quietness within and I didn't argue with hubby and grown kids and definitely didn't thrown things and was able to walk away when irritated. I did read several reviews I this med and I found so many that says it helps their depression

 

Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety? » alfbarks007

Posted by mogger on February 10, 2014, at 11:24:36

In reply to Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety?, posted by alfbarks007 on February 10, 2014, at 11:22:18

Awesome. It sounds like you were on such a small dose that I do hope that you can give it another shot. I have a friend who is on 1.5mgs of Risperdal and is greatly helped by it with no side effects except she sleeps like a baby! Be well,

mogger

 

Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety?

Posted by alfbarks007 on February 10, 2014, at 11:32:38

In reply to Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety? » alfbarks007, posted by mogger on February 10, 2014, at 11:24:36

I was trying to help you not brag about how much it helped me...sorry

 

Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety? » alfbarks007

Posted by mogger on February 10, 2014, at 11:36:12

In reply to Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety?, posted by alfbarks007 on February 10, 2014, at 11:32:38

Oh no I hope you didn't think I was being sarcastic in any way. I hope I didn't offend you. I seriously appreciate it and am going to talk to my doctor about it. In closing I was just trying to help you as well as you were trying to help me as well. I just genuinely hope that you can get back on it so it can help you again. I meant everything with the best intentions. I am sorry if it came across the wrong way.

mogger

 

Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety? » mogger

Posted by alfbarks007 on February 10, 2014, at 12:37:54

In reply to Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety? » alfbarks007, posted by mogger on February 10, 2014, at 11:36:12

its so hard on boards to understand a persons intention but I didn't want to come across as talking about myself but I guess I did lol

its all good!

 

Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety? » alfbarks007

Posted by mogger on February 10, 2014, at 13:53:19

In reply to Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety? » mogger, posted by alfbarks007 on February 10, 2014, at 12:37:54

:) I agree about miscommunication on boards! No you didn't talk all about yourself your experience is why I am going to ask my doctor about so thank you! :)

 

Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety? » alfbarks007

Posted by phidippus on February 11, 2014, at 16:00:24

In reply to Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety?, posted by alfbarks007 on February 10, 2014, at 9:54:21

You need to understand thaat the risperidal is treating your mania, which is causing the anxiety and racing thoughts.

Eric

 

Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety? » phidippus

Posted by alfbarks007 on February 11, 2014, at 17:28:47

In reply to Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety? » alfbarks007, posted by phidippus on February 11, 2014, at 16:00:24

yes I agree and when I was taking it I didn't have racing thoughts per se but I still had a ton of fear and I was hoping that it would helped my anxiety towards the fear, maybe in time it would of but the fear was too over powering...maybe I can get through it this time. I was taking 2.5 mgs of valium to help me get through the anxiety of taking it lol it helped and I may have to do that again for a few days till I get use it again.

 

Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety? » alfbarks007

Posted by phidippus on February 12, 2014, at 20:21:58

In reply to Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety? » phidippus, posted by alfbarks007 on February 11, 2014, at 17:28:47

Why do you have such anxiety about having a seizure?

Eric

 

Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety? » phidippus

Posted by alfbarks007 on February 13, 2014, at 13:39:41

In reply to Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety? » alfbarks007, posted by phidippus on February 12, 2014, at 20:21:58

Because when I've had them they have all been the big daddy of them all, the tonic clonic or grand mal, you lose totally consciousness, wet your pants, foam at the mouth, lose your memory, can have brain damage from it, if I was driving I could kill someone if I didn't get the aura, the aura is similar to the visual migraines I get and they terrify me because sometimes I wonder if it is a seizure aura or an actual migraine, thankfully its always the migraine...need I say more? it just a horrible thing to have to go through mentally for me..they terrify me!

 

Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety? » alfbarks007

Posted by phidippus on February 13, 2014, at 22:13:52

In reply to Re: Atypical besides zypr.., sero.. good for anxiety? » phidippus, posted by alfbarks007 on February 13, 2014, at 13:39:41

Then I really don't understand why you're not on an anticonvulsant - it will help like the risperidal and keep the seizures from happening.

Eric


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