Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 1039271

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Lou's response-psumperspktv » gadchik

Posted by Lou PIlder on March 2, 2013, at 13:30:18

In reply to Alarmed, posted by gadchik on February 25, 2013, at 13:40:16

> I called Roche(which is now genentech, I guess)to discuss splitting the 1mg pill which is not scored.(to save $ and not have to take the generic,which is ok,but I like roche)I became alarmed after the pharmacist there became alarmed that Ive been on klonopin for 4 yrs. She stated that they advise no more than 9 weeks use,that it was never tested beyond that. She suggested that I work out a taper with my doctor. This is a pharmacist that is working for Roche,so what does she know about benzos that we dont? Do I just need to get some perspective?

Friends,
It is written here,[...Do I just need to get some pespective?...].
I am prevented to post here what I think could save lives and prevent life-ruining conditions and addictions in regards to aspects of Benzodiazepines due to prohibitions posted to me here by Mr Hsiung.
You see, benzene is a substance that can cause cancer. And it has been used in mass-murder. A lot of the drugs promoted here have s one of their chemical constituants, benzene.
Now I think that if you knew what I know about benzene, you could make a more-informed decision as to take drugs that have benzene in their chemical composition. It is too bad that readers here do not have the opportunity to know what I know that is prohibited for me to post here. And there is another prohibiton to me that prevents me from posting a link to historical records that could not only be educational, but supportive as well.
Now you parents that are having your child drugged in collaboration with a psychiatrist/doctor and the drug has benzene as one of its chemical componants, I pity the child that had no knowledge of what you are putting into their body's structures and nervous system that could give them a lifetime of suffereing and misery. And more than that, the drug could put them in a mind -altered state to compel them to kill themselves and/or others. I'm talking about theaters, and schools an shopping centers and places where there are lots of innocent children and adults that could become victims of mass-murder. I pity the parents that were not told that the drugs could increase their thinking that could cause murder/suicide to the taker of the drug. And why were they not told? Why are there these prohibitions to me here that prohibit me from posting educational material that could give readers a better perspective of what these drugs are? And how many deaths will it take before they are allowed to hear me?
The answer, my friend, is seen on the admin board.
Lou

 

Re: Lou's response-Benzene

Posted by Lou PIlder on March 2, 2013, at 13:30:19

In reply to Lou's response-psumperspktv » gadchik, posted by Lou PIlder on February 25, 2013, at 16:24:46

> > I called Roche(which is now genentech, I guess)to discuss splitting the 1mg pill which is not scored.(to save $ and not have to take the generic,which is ok,but I like roche)I became alarmed after the pharmacist there became alarmed that Ive been on klonopin for 4 yrs. She stated that they advise no more than 9 weeks use,that it was never tested beyond that. She suggested that I work out a taper with my doctor. This is a pharmacist that is working for Roche,so what does she know about benzos that we dont? Do I just need to get some perspective?
>
> Friends,
> It is written here,[...Do I just need to get some pespective?...].
> I am prevented to post here what I think could save lives and prevent life-ruining conditions and addictions in regards to aspects of Benzodiazepines due to prohibitions posted to me here by Mr Hsiung.
> You see, benzene is a substance that can cause cancer. And it has been used in mass-murder. A lot of the drugs promoted here have s one of their chemical constituants, benzene.
> Now I think that if you knew what I know about benzene, you could make a more-informed decision as to take drugs that have benzene in their chemical composition. It is too bad that readers here do not have the opportunity to know what I know that is prohibited for me to post here. And there is another prohibiton to me that prevents me from posting a link to historical records that could not only be educational, but supportive as well.
> Now you parents that are having your child drugged in collaboration with a psychiatrist/doctor and the drug has benzene as one of its chemical componants, I pity the child that had no knowledge of what you are putting into their body's structures and nervous system that could give them a lifetime of suffereing and misery. And more than that, the drug could put them in a mind -altered state to compel them to kill themselves and/or others. I'm talking about theaters, and schools an shopping centers and places where there are lots of innocent children and adults that could become victims of mass-murder. I pity the parents that were not told that the drugs could increase their thinking that could cause murder/suicide to the taker of the drug. And why were they not told? Why are there these prohibitions to me here that prohibit me from posting educational material that could give readers a better perspective of what these drugs are? And how many deaths will it take before they are allowed to hear me?
> The answer, my friend, is seen on the admin board.
> Lou

Friends,
Here is an article that I would like interested reader to see in relation to how Benzene was used.
Lou
To see this article;
A. Pull up Google
B. Type i:
[900 Russian,Polish,Czech, Benzene]
This is usually first and is a Wikipedia article. Eduard is in the subject line

 

Lou's reply-tockpsik » joe schmoe

Posted by Lou PIlder on March 2, 2013, at 13:30:20

In reply to Re: Lou's response-psumperspktv » Lou PIlder, posted by joe schmoe on February 25, 2013, at 16:50:18

> >
> > You see, benzene is a substance that can cause cancer. And it has been used in mass-murder. A lot of the drugs promoted here have s one of their chemical constituants, benzene.
> > Now I think that if you knew what I know about benzene, you could make a more-informed decision as to take drugs that have benzene in their chemical composition.
>
>
> Lou,
>
> Go go Wikipedia and look up serotonin, or dopamine, or norephinephrine. Look at the chemical structures for them. You will see all of them contain a benzene ring, like clonazepam. And they are made by the human body. You would die without them. They don't cause cancer.
>
> Benzene rings are not the same thing as benzene by itself. Please stop the scare disinformation.
>
> Friends,
If you have doubts concerning chemicals in mind-altering drugs effecting one's nervous system and organs when in the chemical structure of psychotropic drugs giver by a psychiatrist/doctor, I am requesting that you read the following.
lou
To see this article:
A. Bring up Google
B. Type in:
[FDA approves diet pill containing toxic Benzene]

 

Lou's reply-nytroughbz » joe schmoe

Posted by Lou PIlder on March 2, 2013, at 13:30:24

In reply to Re: Lou's reply-huzonpherst » Lou PIlder, posted by joe schmoe on February 26, 2013, at 7:02:05

> > > J_S
> > You wrote,[...benzene rings are not the same thing as benzene by itself...].
> > Really? If you could post answers to the following, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
> > A. Where did the benzene rings come from?
> > B. If they came from benzene, what is left out if the rings are different from benzene itself?
> > C. Is not the chemical structure of benzene in a ring configuration?
> > Lou
>
>
> Benzene rings are very common and are found in an enormous number of chemicals, including amino acids. Serotonin for example is made from tryptophan, an amino acid. Both contain benzene rings and are synthesized by living things. They are not made from benzene.
>
> You can't look at a structure in a chemical and conclude the chemical was made using that structure as a stand alone component. Even if it was, the stand alone component would no longer be stand alone once incorporated into the larger molecule. As I pointed out, a single oxygen atom is a radical and the body has the means to quench it to prevent it from doing damage. That does not mean oxygen gas, O2, is dangerous, quite the contrary, it is necessary to life. The fact it is made from two oxygen atoms does not make it unsafe.
>
> If you want to know how a chemical is made, you can Google for it, for example "clonazepam synthesis." You will be shown the precursor molecules and the steps of the reactions used to make it.
>
> Many useful chemicals are used by attaching things to a benzene ring in place of one or more hydrogen atoms. So what is left out is hydrogen.
>
> Yes a benzene ring is ring-shaped, thus the term benzene ring. It is a ring of carbons with a hydrogen sticking out at each corner. In this simple form it is dangerous. It is not dangerous when it is a component of a larger molecule.

Friends,
Benzodiazepines are synthesized to have a benzene ring in their chemical structure, so where do these rings come from? Apple butter? Holes in the ground?
My friends, to have any constituant chemically as a benzene ring, there is benzene that it is from.
In Klonopin, there is {nitrobenzophenone} used in the synthesis. Now nitrobenzophenone comes from benzene.
Lou

 

Lou's reply-azperyn » SLS

Posted by Lou PIlder on March 2, 2013, at 13:30:29

In reply to Aspirin contains a benzene ring. » Lou PIlder, posted by SLS on February 26, 2013, at 17:30:24

> Aspirin is a derivative of benzene. Benzene is used in its manufacture.
>
> I'm sure your expertise in organic chemistry will allow you to appreciate the following diagram:
>
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b0/Aspirin-skeletal.png
>
> The body's natural chemical machinery utilizes benzene (aromatic) rings all of the time. These include amino acids and neurotransmitters.
>
> Norepinephrine:
>
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Noradrenaline_chemical_structure.png
>
> I do not have a degree in biochemistry, but what little I do know leads me to believe that your understanding of the chemistry of life is limited, and that most of your claims have no scientific basis. Benzene is poisonous. Compounds that include benzene rings are not necessarily poisonous, and are, in fact, critical to life.
>
>
> - Scott

Scott,
You wrote,[..Aspirin contains a benzen ring...Benzene is poisonous...]
Compounds that include benzene rings can be toxic. Aspirin is not any exception to that. In fact, aspirin can cause a host of adverse effects.
Now the taking of a benzodiazepine for long-term use is different from taking two aspirins a day for a few days. You see, it is when a drug is used foir more than a few weeks that the adverse effects can be probable. In BZDS, addiction can happen in a week. And long-term can have diasterous effects upon one's ability to think and be addictive that can result in horrific withdrawal effects.
People that take aspirin for long-term use are now seeing new information concerning the adverse effects of aspirin.
I don't think you have to be an "A" student, to understand that even aspirin can cause adverse effects. For it is a drug that has adverse effects. That benzene can be used in its synthesis, does not annul the fact that benzene can kill in compunds that are derivatives of such.

 

Lou's reply-azperyn/death

Posted by Lou PIlder on March 2, 2013, at 13:30:29

In reply to Lou's reply-azperyn » SLS, posted by Lou PIlder on February 26, 2013, at 18:15:40

> > Aspirin is a derivative of benzene. Benzene is used in its manufacture.
> >
> > I'm sure your expertise in organic chemistry will allow you to appreciate the following diagram:
> >
> > http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b0/Aspirin-skeletal.png
> >
> > The body's natural chemical machinery utilizes benzene (aromatic) rings all of the time. These include amino acids and neurotransmitters.
> >
> > Norepinephrine:
> >
> > http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Noradrenaline_chemical_structure.png
> >
> > I do not have a degree in biochemistry, but what little I do know leads me to believe that your understanding of the chemistry of life is limited, and that most of your claims have no scientific basis. Benzene is poisonous. Compounds that include benzene rings are not necessarily poisonous, and are, in fact, critical to life.
> >
> >
> > - Scott
>
> Scott,
> You wrote,[..Aspirin contains a benzen ring...Benzene is poisonous...]
> Compounds that include benzene rings can be toxic. Aspirin is not any exception to that. In fact, aspirin can cause a host of adverse effects.
> Now the taking of a benzodiazepine for long-term use is different from taking two aspirins a day for a few days. You see, it is when a drug is used foir more than a few weeks that the adverse effects can be probable. In BZDS, addiction can happen in a week. And long-term can have diasterous effects upon one's ability to think and be addictive that can result in horrific withdrawal effects.
> People that take aspirin for long-term use are now seeing new information concerning the adverse effects of aspirin.
> I don't think you have to be an "A" student, to understand that even aspirin can cause adverse effects. For it is a drug that has adverse effects. That benzene can be used in its synthesis, does not annul the fact that benzene can kill in compunds that are derivatives of such.
>

Friends,
Lou
http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/aspirin/death

 

Re: Lou's reply-the real killer » CamW

Posted by Phillipa on March 2, 2013, at 13:30:31

In reply to Re: Lou's reply-the real killer » Lou PIlder, posted by CamW on February 26, 2013, at 18:50:46

Incredible. Key word some. Phillipa

 

Lou's response-

Posted by Lou PIlder on March 2, 2013, at 13:30:33

In reply to Re: Lou's reply-the real killer » Phillipa, posted by CamW on February 26, 2013, at 19:05:59

> Phillipa - I just wanted to point out that while medications can kill, there are some things that kill many more. A certain person should not say that one should replace the other.
>
> I don't deny that there is good in both, but let's keep it real.
>
> How many more deaths would there be without psychotropic medications? A certain person does not see this.
>
> - Cam

Friends,
There is a continuing body of knowledge that shows that psychotropic drugs increase thinking about killing one's self and/or others.
The mechanism is well-known. Yet today, psychiatrists/doctors can prescribe psychotropic drugs to those that are contemplating suicide.
Lou,
http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/klonopin/death

 

Re: Alarmed » SLS

Posted by joe schmoe on March 2, 2013, at 13:30:33

In reply to Re: Alarmed » joe schmoe, posted by SLS on February 26, 2013, at 19:05:12

> > The trick, William Potter, is *not minding* that it hurts.
>
> Who is William Potter?
>
> I was once treated by a William Z. Potter.
>
>
> - Scott


That is a line from Lawrence of Arabia, which is also echoed in the film Prometheus.

 

Re: Lou's response- » Lou PIlder

Posted by Phillipa on March 2, 2013, at 13:30:34

In reply to Lou's response-, posted by Lou PIlder on February 26, 2013, at 19:25:26

Lou are you okay? Seriously though lots of docs prescribe a baby aspirin a day. I was but never took it does this mean I will die of a heart attack? I take calcium supplements also and now they say that this can clog the arteries and also cause death. The way I see it I'm doomed. Phillipa

 

Re: Lou's response-

Posted by CamW on March 2, 2013, at 13:30:35

In reply to Re: Lou's response- » Lou PIlder, posted by Phillipa on February 26, 2013, at 21:23:50

> The way I see it I'm doomed. Phillipa

Please don't take him seriously. He is just trying to get a reaction. He is fear mongering & the information he is using is being selectively cherry-picked; not telling the full story.

Lou is being totally irresponsible, & his behaviour is reprehensible.

Seriously - Cam

 

Re: drugs with benzene rings are dangerous » Lou PIlder

Posted by Dr. Bob on March 2, 2013, at 17:31:15

In reply to Lou's response-psumperspktv » gadchik, posted by Lou PIlder on March 2, 2013, at 13:30:18

> You see, benzene is a substance that can cause cancer.
> Now I think that if you knew what I know about benzene, you could make a more-informed decision as to take drugs that have benzene in their chemical composition.

Lou,

What I hear you saying is that drugs with benzene rings are dangerous. Is that right?

Everybody else,

Please refrain from replying while I talk with Lou.

Thanks,

Bob

 

Lou's reply-bhnzeadeth » Dr. Bob

Posted by Lou PIlder on March 3, 2013, at 9:00:11

In reply to Re: drugs with benzene rings are dangerous » Lou PIlder, posted by Dr. Bob on March 2, 2013, at 17:31:15

> > You see, benzene is a substance that can cause cancer.
> > Now I think that if you knew what I know about benzene, you could make a more-informed decision as to take drugs that have benzene in their chemical composition.
>
> Lou,
>
> What I hear you saying is that drugs with benzene rings are dangerous. Is that right?
>
> Everybody else,
>
> Please refrain from replying while I talk with Lou.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bob

Mr Hsiung,
You wrote,
[...What I hear you saying is that drugs with benzene rings are dangerous. Is that right?...].
Yes, I am saying what you are hearing, in that drugs with benzene rings can be dangerous. This is all because benzene causes cancer.
Now here is a link to drugs having benzene rings in its chmical composition that are dangeroous. The psychotropic drugs that use benzene to produce derivatives can also be dangerous. Benzodiazepines are benzene fuse with a diazepine. Does the benzene change to apple butter when it is fused with a diazepine?
Cancer is only one potential result. The damaging of brain cells from benzene derivatives from psychotropic drugs is another topic that your rules posted to me here prevent me from posting what I think could save lives, prevent life-ruining conditions and addictions. I could show how benzene is used to bond fluoride and chloride compounds to make a derivative that can cause brain damage from psychotropic drugs.
Here is a link to cancer from benzene.
Lou
http://www.benzenecausescancer.info/home/benzene-in-medicine

 

Lou's reply-ben/cancer/death

Posted by Lou PIlder on March 3, 2013, at 10:54:15

In reply to Lou's reply-bhnzeadeth » Dr. Bob, posted by Lou PIlder on March 3, 2013, at 9:00:11

> > > You see, benzene is a substance that can cause cancer.
> > > Now I think that if you knew what I know about benzene, you could make a more-informed decision as to take drugs that have benzene in their chemical composition.
> >
> > Lou,
> >
> > What I hear you saying is that drugs with benzene rings are dangerous. Is that right?
> >
> > Everybody else,
> >
> > Please refrain from replying while I talk with Lou.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bob
>
> Mr Hsiung,
> You wrote,
> [...What I hear you saying is that drugs with benzene rings are dangerous. Is that right?...].
> Yes, I am saying what you are hearing, in that drugs with benzene rings can be dangerous. This is all because benzene causes cancer.
> Now here is a link to drugs having benzene rings in its chmical composition that are dangeroous. The psychotropic drugs that use benzene to produce derivatives can also be dangerous. Benzodiazepines are benzene fuse with a diazepine. Does the benzene change to apple butter when it is fused with a diazepine?
> Cancer is only one potential result. The damaging of brain cells from benzene derivatives from psychotropic drugs is another topic that your rules posted to me here prevent me from posting what I think could save lives, prevent life-ruining conditions and addictions. I could show how benzene is used to bond fluoride and chloride compounds to make a derivative that can cause brain damage from psychotropic drugs.
> Here is a link to cancer from benzene.
> Lou
> http://www.benzenecausescancer.info/home/benzene-in-medicine

Mr Hsiung,
In any response to me, please include the content in the following links.
Lou Pilder
http://www/toxicpsychiatry.com/psychiatric-drugs-and-cancer
http://www.drugs.com/news/sleeping-pills-linked-raised-risk-death-cancer-study-36691.html

 

Re: all drugs are dangerous

Posted by Dr. Bob on March 3, 2013, at 14:03:42

In reply to Lou's reply-bhnzeadeth » Dr. Bob, posted by Lou PIlder on March 3, 2013, at 9:00:11

> > What I hear you saying is that drugs with benzene rings are dangerous. Is that right?
>
> Yes, I am saying what you are hearing, in that drugs with benzene rings can be dangerous.

Lou,

I'm glad I heard you accurately. Would you go so far as to say all drugs are dangerous?

Bob

 

Lou's reply-eydownoizonthird » Dr. Bob

Posted by Lou PIlder on March 3, 2013, at 18:13:55

In reply to Re: all drugs are dangerous, posted by Dr. Bob on March 3, 2013, at 14:03:42

> > > What I hear you saying is that drugs with benzene rings are dangerous. Is that right?
> >
> > Yes, I am saying what you are hearing, in that drugs with benzene rings can be dangerous.
>
> Lou,
>
> I'm glad I heard you accurately. Would you go so far as to say all drugs are dangerous?
>
> Bob

Mr Hsiung,
You wrote[...Would you go so far as to say that all drugs are dangerous?...].
What the topic is concerning here is {mind-altering} drugs. If you are including all other drugs, then what the word {dangerous} means comes into this discussion and also what a {drug} is or is not.
Lou Pilder

 

Re: mind-altering drugs are dangerous

Posted by Dr. Bob on March 3, 2013, at 21:48:54

In reply to Lou's reply-eydownoizonthird » Dr. Bob, posted by Lou PIlder on March 3, 2013, at 18:13:55

> > I'm glad I heard you accurately. Would you go so far as to say all drugs are dangerous?
>
> What the topic is concerning here is {mind-altering} drugs.

OK, would you go so far as to say all mind-altering drugs are dangerous?

Bob

 

Lou's reply-nonotwun? » Dr. Bob

Posted by Lou PIlder on March 4, 2013, at 7:21:00

In reply to Re: mind-altering drugs are dangerous, posted by Dr. Bob on March 3, 2013, at 21:48:54

> > > I'm glad I heard you accurately. Would you go so far as to say all drugs are dangerous?
> >
> > What the topic is concerning here is {mind-altering} drugs.
>
> OK, would you go so far as to say all mind-altering drugs are dangerous?
>
> Bob
>
Mr Hsiung,
To determine as to if all mind-altering drugs are dangerous or not, one could use the generally accepted meaning of {dangerous} to make that conclusion, which is {likely to cause harm or cause injury}.
One way to prove, as in this case, could be to show one such in the class of psychotropic drugs that does not at all cause any harm or injury. I know of none.
For as the sun goes from the East to the West, all of he psychotropic drugs that I know of can cause harm or injury in that they can either induce suicidal and/or homocidal thoughts ending in the taker of the drug killing themselves and/or others, or inducing diabetes, or tardive dyskinesia, or heart problems, or liver problems, or other organ problems, or huge weight gain, or sexual dysfunction, or blood disease, or eye problems, or depression of the central nervous system, or tardvie dystonia, or addiction, or a host of other harmful or injurious outcomes to not only the taker of the drug, but to innocent bystnders as a result of the taker of the drug going on shooting rsmpage and even killing their own children and mother or spouse.
Now I ask for a name of a psychotropic drug that can not do any of those things to be posted here, then I could conclude that all psychotropic drugs can cause harm or injury if one is not found to be exempt from what the list of injuries and harm that I have posted here.
Lou Pilder

 

Re: mind-altering drugs are dangerous

Posted by Dr. Bob on March 5, 2013, at 16:58:45

In reply to Lou's reply-nonotwun? » Dr. Bob, posted by Lou PIlder on March 4, 2013, at 7:21:00

> To determine as to if all mind-altering drugs are dangerous or not, one could use the generally accepted meaning of {dangerous} to make that conclusion, which is {likely to cause harm or cause injury}.
> One way to prove, as in this case, could be to show one such in the class of psychotropic drugs that does not at all cause any harm or injury. I know of none.
> For as the sun goes from the East to the West, all of he psychotropic drugs that I know of can cause harm or injury in that they can either induce suicidal and/or homocidal thoughts ending in the taker of the drug killing themselves and/or others, or inducing diabetes, or tardive dyskinesia, or heart problems, or liver problems, or other organ problems, or huge weight gain, or sexual dysfunction, or blood disease, or eye problems, or depression of the central nervous system, or tardvie dystonia, or addiction, or a host of other harmful or injurious outcomes to not only the taker of the drug, but to innocent bystnders as a result of the taker of the drug going on shooting rsmpage and even killing their own children and mother or spouse.
> Now I ask for a name of a psychotropic drug that can not do any of those things to be posted here, then I could conclude that all psychotropic drugs can cause harm or injury if one is not found to be exempt from what the list of injuries and harm that I have posted here.

Lou,

So did I get that right? You're saying all mind-altering drugs are dangerous?

Bob

PS: Everybody else, please refrain from replying while I try to understand what Lou's saying.

 

Lou's request -dayngueruz? » Dr. Bob

Posted by Lou PIlder on March 5, 2013, at 21:08:47

In reply to Re: mind-altering drugs are dangerous, posted by Dr. Bob on March 5, 2013, at 16:58:45

> > To determine as to if all mind-altering drugs are dangerous or not, one could use the generally accepted meaning of {dangerous} to make that conclusion, which is {likely to cause harm or cause injury}.
> > One way to prove, as in this case, could be to show one such in the class of psychotropic drugs that does not at all cause any harm or injury. I know of none.
> > For as the sun goes from the East to the West, all of he psychotropic drugs that I know of can cause harm or injury in that they can either induce suicidal and/or homocidal thoughts ending in the taker of the drug killing themselves and/or others, or inducing diabetes, or tardive dyskinesia, or heart problems, or liver problems, or other organ problems, or huge weight gain, or sexual dysfunction, or blood disease, or eye problems, or depression of the central nervous system, or tardvie dystonia, or addiction, or a host of other harmful or injurious outcomes to not only the taker of the drug, but to innocent bystnders as a result of the taker of the drug going on shooting rsmpage and even killing their own children and mother or spouse.
> > Now I ask for a name of a psychotropic drug that can not do any of those things to be posted here, then I could conclude that all psychotropic drugs can cause harm or injury if one is not found to be exempt from what the list of injuries and harm that I have posted here.
>
> Lou,
>
> So did I get that right? You're saying all mind-altering drugs are dangerous?
>
> Bob
>
> PS: Everybody else, please refrain from replying while I try to understand what Lou's saying.

Friends,
If you are interested in the dialog here betwen me and Mr Hsiung, I am requesting that you read the following article.
Lou
To see thgis article:
A. Bring up Google
B. Type in:
[encognitive,1185]
could be first...the 1185 is in thecolored strip

 

Lou's request -harrmphule?

Posted by Lou PIlder on March 5, 2013, at 21:47:02

In reply to Lou's request -dayngueruz? » Dr. Bob, posted by Lou PIlder on March 5, 2013, at 21:08:47

> > > To determine as to if all mind-altering drugs are dangerous or not, one could use the generally accepted meaning of {dangerous} to make that conclusion, which is {likely to cause harm or cause injury}.
> > > One way to prove, as in this case, could be to show one such in the class of psychotropic drugs that does not at all cause any harm or injury. I know of none.
> > > For as the sun goes from the East to the West, all of he psychotropic drugs that I know of can cause harm or injury in that they can either induce suicidal and/or homocidal thoughts ending in the taker of the drug killing themselves and/or others, or inducing diabetes, or tardive dyskinesia, or heart problems, or liver problems, or other organ problems, or huge weight gain, or sexual dysfunction, or blood disease, or eye problems, or depression of the central nervous system, or tardvie dystonia, or addiction, or a host of other harmful or injurious outcomes to not only the taker of the drug, but to innocent bystnders as a result of the taker of the drug going on shooting rsmpage and even killing their own children and mother or spouse.
> > > Now I ask for a name of a psychotropic drug that can not do any of those things to be posted here, then I could conclude that all psychotropic drugs can cause harm or injury if one is not found to be exempt from what the list of injuries and harm that I have posted here.
> >
> > Lou,
> >
> > So did I get that right? You're saying all mind-altering drugs are dangerous?
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > PS: Everybody else, please refrain from replying while I try to understand what Lou's saying.
>
> Friends,
> If you are interested in the dialog here betwen me and Mr Hsiung, I am requesting that you read the following article.
> Lou
> To see thgis article:
> A. Bring up Google
> B. Type in:
> [encognitive,1185]
> could be first...the 1185 is in thecolored strip

Friends,
If you are interested in this dialog here between me and Mr Hsiun, I am requesating that you view the following video.
Lou
To see this video:
A. Bring up Google
B. Type in:
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Re: mind-altering drugs are dangerous

Posted by Dr. Bob on March 8, 2013, at 16:14:42

In reply to Re: mind-altering drugs are dangerous, posted by Dr. Bob on March 5, 2013, at 16:58:45

> So did I get that right? You're saying all mind-altering drugs are dangerous?

Lou,

Or did I get that wrong? Are you not saying that?

Bob

 

Lou's reply-nhoenhot » Dr. Bob

Posted by Lou Pilder on April 24, 2013, at 19:38:07

In reply to Re: mind-altering drugs are dangerous, posted by Dr. Bob on March 8, 2013, at 16:14:42

> > So did I get that right? You're saying all mind-altering drugs are dangerous?
>
> Lou,
>
> Or did I get that wrong? Are you not saying that?
>
> Bob

Mr Hsiung,
See my previous post in this thread where I ask for one to list a mind altering drug that they think is not dangerous. Do you want to list here a mind altering drug that you think is not dangerous?
Lou Pilder

 

Re: Lou's reply-nhoenhot » Lou Pilder

Posted by SLS on May 5, 2013, at 3:36:24

In reply to Lou's reply-nhoenhot » Dr. Bob, posted by Lou Pilder on April 24, 2013, at 19:38:07

> Do you want to list here a mind altering drug that you think is not dangerous?

Just so that I may understand what your criteria are, could you please list here a drug that you think is not dangerous?


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