Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 1029238

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Feeling REALLY down

Posted by ChicagoKat on October 20, 2012, at 15:58:55

With the Nardil, I know I have to be patient. But if patience is a virtue, I am not virtuous.

I have been going up and down on the Nardil, but mostly down. And today I am feeling as bad as I did before I started it. Which hasn't happened since I started it. I am afraid that the trend is negative and that worries me about the ultimate efficacy of Nardil. God help me, but if Nardil ultimately fails on me, there will be absolutely nothing left for me to try. I'm really scared.
Kat

 

Re: Feeling REALLY down

Posted by Twinleaf on October 20, 2012, at 16:19:07

In reply to Feeling REALLY down, posted by ChicagoKat on October 20, 2012, at 15:58:55

Try to stay hopeful. I don't know how many weeks you have been on it, but I have read that one often needs to wait two months. There are other things to try - think of Scott's prazosin and minocycline, and TMS for me and several others who post here.

 

Lou's response-comowltphromthedhed » ChicagoKat

Posted by Lou Pilder on October 20, 2012, at 17:06:26

In reply to Feeling REALLY down, posted by ChicagoKat on October 20, 2012, at 15:58:55

> With the Nardil, I know I have to be patient. But if patience is a virtue, I am not virtuous.
>
> I have been going up and down on the Nardil, but mostly down. And today I am feeling as bad as I did before I started it. Which hasn't happened since I started it. I am afraid that the trend is negative and that worries me about the ultimate efficacy of Nardil. God help me, but if Nardil ultimately fails on me, there will be absolutely nothing left for me to try. I'm really scared.
> Kat

Chi Kat,
You wrote,[...mostly down...God help me...I'm really scared...].
You will be told by others here to take more drugs, drugs that could lead you down the path of death. And I have come here to tell you how you could be resurrected out from the dead.
You see, it has been revealed to me that death can be a living death. This death is the death in the mind that is so dark that people kill themselves in this death-state. And now there is evidence, that he drugs that you are taking can {increase} the thinking of the one taking the drug to kill themselves.
Now I will assume that the God that you reference here is the same God that the Jews give service and worship to. If not, then please state such here.
Now I have been writing here about a new realm. A realm of peace and joy that one can enter now. They enter by being translated from the death realm to the spiritual realm. It is a resurrection out from the dead. I am prohibited from posting how that can be done by the nature of the prohibitions posted to me here by Mr Hsiung. But I can post some aspects that could arouse your thinking to want to be resurrected out from the dead. And if you stop to think about all the members here that take drugs and post about the state of being that they are in, one can make up their own mind as to if the drugs are giving them a life of peace and joy or just perpetuating the darkness of depresson and addiction and a state of a living death.
Now if you want God to help you, I could tell you right now this day that it has been revealed to me that the God in question has in His Word that he will help you. Not only will He help you, but he will lead you beside the waters of tranquility where there will be rest for your soul and you will be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that brings forth his fruit in his season; his leaf will not wither and whatsoever he does shall prosper.
Lou

 

Re: Feeling REALLY down » ChicagoKat

Posted by SLS on October 20, 2012, at 18:38:45

In reply to Feeling REALLY down, posted by ChicagoKat on October 20, 2012, at 15:58:55

> With the Nardil, I know I have to be patient. But if patience is a virtue, I am not virtuous.


What is your current dosage of amitriptyline? If you haven't arrived at a minimum dosage of 150 mg/day yet, I would think about increasing the dosage before making any other changes.

If it were anyone else, I would suggest increasing the Nardil to 60 mg/day. Most people don't respond to dosages lower than this. How long did you remain at 60 mg/day of Nardil before the ataxia emerged? What about going to 52.5 mg/day for a week or two and then moving up to 60 mg/day?

> God help me, but if Nardil ultimately fails on me, there will be absolutely nothing left for me to try.

How do you know this?

> I'm really scared.

I would be, too.

Perhaps this is a good thing. It might force you to be more patient with your current treatment and encourage you to be receptive to others.

I hate to do this to you, but can you make three lists?

1. Drugs that have helped.
2. Drugs that have hurt.
3. Drugs that were neutral.

You can try to build a treatment regime using Nardil as its core. This would allow you to combine things like Lamictal, Wellbutrin, Ritalin, Dexedrine, lithium, Abilify, etc. However, you would need an enlightened doctor to realize that this can be done safely.

Please remain hopeful that something will eventually help. If an untried treatment can be conceived of, you cannot conclude that you are ultimately doomed. A bit of creativity might be needed.

I wish I had more time, but I am out the door...

You'll get there.


- Scott

 

Re: Feeling REALLY down

Posted by phillipa on October 20, 2012, at 20:09:22

In reply to Re: Feeling REALLY down » ChicagoKat, posted by SLS on October 20, 2012, at 18:38:45

Kat shoot I thought things a bit better? I'm sorry? I can't advise no experience with Nardil. Phillipa

 

Lou's response-

Posted by Lou Pilder on October 20, 2012, at 20:34:24

In reply to Lou's response-comowltphromthedhed » ChicagoKat, posted by Lou Pilder on October 20, 2012, at 17:06:26

> > With the Nardil, I know I have to be patient. But if patience is a virtue, I am not virtuous.
> >
> > I have been going up and down on the Nardil, but mostly down. And today I am feeling as bad as I did before I started it. Which hasn't happened since I started it. I am afraid that the trend is negative and that worries me about the ultimate efficacy of Nardil. God help me, but if Nardil ultimately fails on me, there will be absolutely nothing left for me to try. I'm really scared.
> > Kat
>
> Chi Kat,
> You wrote,[...mostly down...God help me...I'm really scared...].
> You will be told by others here to take more drugs, drugs that could lead you down the path of death. And I have come here to tell you how you could be resurrected out from the dead.
> You see, it has been revealed to me that death can be a living death. This death is the death in the mind that is so dark that people kill themselves in this death-state. And now there is evidence, that he drugs that you are taking can {increase} the thinking of the one taking the drug to kill themselves.
> Now I will assume that the God that you reference here is the same God that the Jews give service and worship to. If not, then please state such here.
> Now I have been writing here about a new realm. A realm of peace and joy that one can enter now. They enter by being translated from the death realm to the spiritual realm. It is a resurrection out from the dead. I am prohibited from posting how that can be done by the nature of the prohibitions posted to me here by Mr Hsiung. But I can post some aspects that could arouse your thinking to want to be resurrected out from the dead. And if you stop to think about all the members here that take drugs and post about the state of being that they are in, one can make up their own mind as to if the drugs are giving them a life of peace and joy or just perpetuating the darkness of depresson and addiction and a state of a living death.
> Now if you want God to help you, I could tell you right now this day that it has been revealed to me that the God in question has in His Word that he will help you. Not only will He help you, but he will lead you beside the waters of tranquility where there will be rest for your soul and you will be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that brings forth his fruit in his season; his leaf will not wither and whatsoever he does shall prosper.
> Lou
>
> ChiKat,
Now the members tell you to take more drugs. But can the combining of chances of drugs give rise to a greater chance of death?
You see, I have a great body of knowledge concerning the chemical reactions of the {combining} of mind-altering drugs. There is a greater probability of death when psychotropic drugs are combined, generally. You see, in combining drugs, there is a double shot of your doctor's drugs. And this double shot can increase the {magnitude}of the actions of the drugs. So thearfore depression could be magnified, magnified so much as to cause one to kill themselves. And when they told you to withdrawal, you could be wanting to kill yourself to.
(redacted by respondent) should have known better to combine the drugs, for (redacted by respondent)everything that you do. Now here is a link that has the statistics for those that combined Nardil with Lamictal and got depression. The percentage is very high. It is a risky chance to combine these two drugs ancd how a psychiatrist could take such a large chance in prescribing the two together is (redacted by respondent), for what if the taker of the drugs gets depression and they already had depression? Could they not then kill themselves?
Lou
http://www.ehealthme.com/nardil-and-lamictal/depression

 

correction: Lou's response-lamictal+Nardil

Posted by Lou Pilder on October 20, 2012, at 20:40:23

In reply to Lou's response-, posted by Lou Pilder on October 20, 2012, at 20:34:24

> > > With the Nardil, I know I have to be patient. But if patience is a virtue, I am not virtuous.
> > >
> > > I have been going up and down on the Nardil, but mostly down. And today I am feeling as bad as I did before I started it. Which hasn't happened since I started it. I am afraid that the trend is negative and that worries me about the ultimate efficacy of Nardil. God help me, but if Nardil ultimately fails on me, there will be absolutely nothing left for me to try. I'm really scared.
> > > Kat
> >
> > Chi Kat,
> > You wrote,[...mostly down...God help me...I'm really scared...].
> > You will be told by others here to take more drugs, drugs that could lead you down the path of death. And I have come here to tell you how you could be resurrected out from the dead.
> > You see, it has been revealed to me that death can be a living death. This death is the death in the mind that is so dark that people kill themselves in this death-state. And now there is evidence, that he drugs that you are taking can {increase} the thinking of the one taking the drug to kill themselves.
> > Now I will assume that the God that you reference here is the same God that the Jews give service and worship to. If not, then please state such here.
> > Now I have been writing here about a new realm. A realm of peace and joy that one can enter now. They enter by being translated from the death realm to the spiritual realm. It is a resurrection out from the dead. I am prohibited from posting how that can be done by the nature of the prohibitions posted to me here by Mr Hsiung. But I can post some aspects that could arouse your thinking to want to be resurrected out from the dead. And if you stop to think about all the members here that take drugs and post about the state of being that they are in, one can make up their own mind as to if the drugs are giving them a life of peace and joy or just perpetuating the darkness of depresson and addiction and a state of a living death.
> > Now if you want God to help you, I could tell you right now this day that it has been revealed to me that the God in question has in His Word that he will help you. Not only will He help you, but he will lead you beside the waters of tranquility where there will be rest for your soul and you will be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that brings forth his fruit in his season; his leaf will not wither and whatsoever he does shall prosper.
> > Lou
> >
> > ChiKat,
> Now the members tell you to take more drugs. But can the combining of chances of drugs give rise to a greater chance of death?
> You see, I have a great body of knowledge concerning the chemical reactions of the {combining} of mind-altering drugs. There is a greater probability of death when psychotropic drugs are combined, generally. You see, in combining drugs, there is a double shot of your doctor's drugs. And this double shot can increase the {magnitude}of the actions of the drugs. So thearfore depression could be magnified, magnified so much as to cause one to kill themselves. And when they told you to withdrawal, you could be wanting to kill yourself to.
> (redacted by respondent) should have known better to combine the drugs, for (redacted by respondent)everything that you do. Now here is a link that has the statistics for those that combined Nardil with Lamictal and got depression. The percentage is very high. It is a risky chance to combine these two drugs ancd how a psychiatrist could take such a large chance in prescribing the two together is (redacted by respondent), for what if the taker of the drugs gets depression and they already had depression? Could they not then kill themselves?
> Lou
> http://www.ehealthme.com/nardil-and-lamictal/depression
>
> correction:
http://www.ehealthme.com/lamictal-and-nardil/depression
>

 

Re: Feeling REALLY down

Posted by jono_in_adelaide on October 20, 2012, at 20:51:51

In reply to Feeling REALLY down, posted by ChicagoKat on October 20, 2012, at 15:58:55

What dose of Nardil are you taking?

Are you still using Ritalin?

 

Re: Feeling REALLY down » SLS

Posted by ChicagoKat on October 20, 2012, at 21:22:06

In reply to Re: Feeling REALLY down » ChicagoKat, posted by SLS on October 20, 2012, at 18:38:45

As always, thanks for your excellent advice and encouragement, Scott.

There have been a few updates; perhaps you have missed them. 1. I'm still on Nortriptyline, but I only take it twice a day, for a total of 50mg/day. Then I take amitriptyline 50mg qhs for sleep. As I'm sure you're well aware, amitriptyline is metabolized to Nortriptyline, so the thought is that I should be therapeutic with my TCAs. 2. I went ahead and increased my dose of Nardil to 60mg/day about a week ago. My pdoc would probably never approve, but I really want this to work. I'm carefully monitoring my gait b/c it is a good warning sign..once it gets funny the falls start happening a few days later. So if I get the funny gait I will immediately go back to 45mg/day. So far, no problems after a week. 3. And, I have to admit, when I'm feeling really low I do take some Ritalin. My BP is generally low b/c of the Nardil, but with the Ritalin I need to take an antihypertensive or two. But it is otherwise well tolerated. And it really helps to get me through this period of waiting.

I will work on my lists, but I can pretty much tell you that most all drugs fall into the not worked/hurt category. And I mean *everything* The only exceptions are MAOIs and Ritalin, they fall into the helped category. It's funny, Ritalin works so well for me, but amphetamines either have no effect or they make me very anxious.

Anyways, this post is getting long, and I believe I've fully filled you in on the changes that have been made to my therapy. I hope you approve. Now I just have to wait...but as I've said, I'm an impatient person! Thank goodness for Ritalin! I'm feeling much better tonight thanks to it.
And again, thank you so much for helping. You're the best. And I'm so happy you are feeling better.
Take care,
Kat

> What is your current dosage of amitriptyline? If you haven't arrived at a minimum dosage of 150 mg/day yet, I would think about increasing the dosage before making any other changes.
>
> If it were anyone else, I would suggest increasing the Nardil to 60 mg/day. Most people don't respond to dosages lower than this. How long did you remain at 60 mg/day of Nardil before the ataxia emerged? What about going to 52.5 mg/day for a week or two and then moving up to 60 mg/day?
>
> > God help me, but if Nardil ultimately fails on me, there will be absolutely nothing left for me to try.
>
> How do you know this?
>
> > I'm really scared.
>
> I would be, too.
>
> Perhaps this is a good thing. It might force you to be more patient with your current treatment and encourage you to be receptive to others.
>
> I hate to do this to you, but can you make three lists?
>
> 1. Drugs that have helped.
> 2. Drugs that have hurt.
> 3. Drugs that were neutral.
>
> You can try to build a treatment regime using Nardil as its core. This would allow you to combine things like Lamictal, Wellbutrin, Ritalin, Dexedrine, lithium, Abilify, etc. However, you would need an enlightened doctor to realize that this can be done safely.
>
> Please remain hopeful that something will eventually help. If an untried treatment can be conceived of, you cannot conclude that you are ultimately doomed. A bit of creativity might be needed.
>
> I wish I had more time, but I am out the door...
>
> You'll get there.
>
>
> - Scott
>
>

 

Lou's response-Ritalin+Nardil

Posted by Lou Pilder on October 20, 2012, at 21:25:23

In reply to correction: Lou's response-lamictal+Nardil, posted by Lou Pilder on October 20, 2012, at 20:40:23

> > > > With the Nardil, I know I have to be patient. But if patience is a virtue, I am not virtuous.
> > > >
> > > > I have been going up and down on the Nardil, but mostly down. And today I am feeling as bad as I did before I started it. Which hasn't happened since I started it. I am afraid that the trend is negative and that worries me about the ultimate efficacy of Nardil. God help me, but if Nardil ultimately fails on me, there will be absolutely nothing left for me to try. I'm really scared.
> > > > Kat
> > >
> > > Chi Kat,
> > > You wrote,[...mostly down...God help me...I'm really scared...].
> > > You will be told by others here to take more drugs, drugs that could lead you down the path of death. And I have come here to tell you how you could be resurrected out from the dead.
> > > You see, it has been revealed to me that death can be a living death. This death is the death in the mind that is so dark that people kill themselves in this death-state. And now there is evidence, that he drugs that you are taking can {increase} the thinking of the one taking the drug to kill themselves.
> > > Now I will assume that the God that you reference here is the same God that the Jews give service and worship to. If not, then please state such here.
> > > Now I have been writing here about a new realm. A realm of peace and joy that one can enter now. They enter by being translated from the death realm to the spiritual realm. It is a resurrection out from the dead. I am prohibited from posting how that can be done by the nature of the prohibitions posted to me here by Mr Hsiung. But I can post some aspects that could arouse your thinking to want to be resurrected out from the dead. And if you stop to think about all the members here that take drugs and post about the state of being that they are in, one can make up their own mind as to if the drugs are giving them a life of peace and joy or just perpetuating the darkness of depresson and addiction and a state of a living death.
> > > Now if you want God to help you, I could tell you right now this day that it has been revealed to me that the God in question has in His Word that he will help you. Not only will He help you, but he will lead you beside the waters of tranquility where there will be rest for your soul and you will be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that brings forth his fruit in his season; his leaf will not wither and whatsoever he does shall prosper.
> > > Lou
> > >
> > > ChiKat,
> > Now the members tell you to take more drugs. But can the combining of chances of drugs give rise to a greater chance of death?
> > You see, I have a great body of knowledge concerning the chemical reactions of the {combining} of mind-altering drugs. There is a greater probability of death when psychotropic drugs are combined, generally. You see, in combining drugs, there is a double shot of your doctor's drugs. And this double shot can increase the {magnitude}of the actions of the drugs. So thearfore depression could be magnified, magnified so much as to cause one to kill themselves. And when they told you to withdrawal, you could be wanting to kill yourself to.
> > (redacted by respondent) should have known better to combine the drugs, for (redacted by respondent)everything that you do. Now here is a link that has the statistics for those that combined Nardil with Lamictal and got depression. The percentage is very high. It is a risky chance to combine these two drugs ancd how a psychiatrist could take such a large chance in prescribing the two together is (redacted by respondent), for what if the taker of the drugs gets depression and they already had depression? Could they not then kill themselves?
> > Lou
> > http://www.ehealthme.com/nardil-and-lamictal/depression
> >
> > correction:
> http://www.ehealthme.com/lamictal-and-nardil/depression
> >
> ChiKat,
Don't let ignorance catch you cryin'. The tools of ignorance are tactics that could keep you from knowing the truth. Any repression of my speech here could lead to your death. You see, when two drugs are combined, their effects are made greater, so if the two are both CND, then the depression could be such as to kill the person by respiratory failure and such.
Now if you take nardil and Ritalin together, that could cause great addiction with the potential for you to have to withdrawal and then kill yourself in the withdrawal phase.
Lou
http://www.ehealthme.com/ritalin-and-nardil/drug-dependence
>

 

Re: Feeling REALLY down » phillipa

Posted by ChicagoKat on October 20, 2012, at 21:25:34

In reply to Re: Feeling REALLY down, posted by phillipa on October 20, 2012, at 20:09:22

> Kat shoot I thought things a bit better? I'm sorry? I can't advise no experience with Nardil. Phillipa

Philliipa, it's really up and down with Nardil, but lately it's been mostly down :( And I know logically that it can take weeks to months for the benefits of Nardil to fully kick in, but I am not known for my patience! I'm adding a little Ritalin to my therapy, just for when I feel really bad, and it really helps. So I feel better now, thank goodness.

How are you doing?
My best,
Kat

 

Re: Feeling REALLY down » ChicagoKat

Posted by phillipa on October 20, 2012, at 22:01:01

In reply to Re: Feeling REALLY down » phillipa, posted by ChicagoKat on October 20, 2012, at 21:25:34

Better as reupped the luvox. And drove to Mountains again. Will be adding pics later with any luck.

Explain how what I think of as an upper ritalin can work if also anxious. This I seriously don't get and never have?

Thankfully you are feeling better now. It will be uphill from here.

Thanks and feel good Phillipa

 

Re: up and down

Posted by Dr. Bob on October 20, 2012, at 22:14:49

In reply to Re: Feeling REALLY down » phillipa, posted by ChicagoKat on October 20, 2012, at 21:25:34

> it's really up and down with Nardil, but lately it's been mostly down :( And I know logically that it can take weeks to months for the benefits of Nardil to fully kick in, but I am not known for my patience!

It occurs to me that up and down moods are associated with optimistic and pessimistic views of the future. And that both of those views are expressed on this board.

Bob

 

Re: up and down

Posted by jono_in_adelaide on October 20, 2012, at 23:11:25

In reply to Re: up and down, posted by Dr. Bob on October 20, 2012, at 22:14:49

Did the nortriptyline make you feel worse, or merely not help you sleep, so you changed to amitriptyline?

If it was just the sleep thing I would restart nortriptyline at 75mg at night, and also take amitriptyline (oe even better doxepin 25mg) for sleep, you will be hitting your depression with the 1-2 knockout punch, and still remain within normal doseage limits for a tricyclic.

I agree with scott, a list of what drugs have helped and which ones havent would be very usefull.

If things are realy bad, would your insurance cover a short period of treatment in a specialised institution, for example, the Menninger Clinic?

 

Re: Feeling REALLY down » ChicagoKat

Posted by phidippus on October 20, 2012, at 23:36:52

In reply to Feeling REALLY down, posted by ChicagoKat on October 20, 2012, at 15:58:55

Kat,

Do you have a therapist that you work with? I'm wondering if some of your depression might be better handled psychologically.

How many antidepressants have you been on? Have you ever been on two at the same time? List them all for me :)

Eric

 

Re: up and down » Dr. Bob

Posted by ChicagoKat on October 21, 2012, at 0:40:53

In reply to Re: up and down, posted by Dr. Bob on October 20, 2012, at 22:14:49

> > it's really up and down with Nardil, but lately it's been mostly down :( And I know logically that it can take weeks to months for the benefits of Nardil to fully kick in, but I am not known for my patience!
>
> It occurs to me that up and down moods are associated with optimistic and pessimistic views of the future. And that both of those views are expressed on this board.
>
> Bob

How true, Dr. Bob! Sometimes I feel like I'm attending Psycho Babble High School. It seems people have been more negative of late; perhaps that's contributing to a worsening of my symptoms. I like it when the board is just full of people who understand what others are going through, and give them advice and support. Hopefully things will start to get that way more and more in the near future.
My best,
Kat

 

Re: up and down » jono_in_adelaide

Posted by ChicagoKat on October 21, 2012, at 0:49:40

In reply to Re: up and down, posted by jono_in_adelaide on October 20, 2012, at 23:11:25

Thanks for the advice Jon. There have been updates to my therapy, but maybe you missed them.
1. I'm taking 50mg/day bid (25mg) of Nortriptyline. Then I am taking 50mg qhs of amitryptiline...it helps me sleep, but as I'm sure you know amitryptiline is metabolized to Nortriptyline. So that pretty much covers the TCA side of my therapy.
2. I went up to 60mg/day of Nardil
3. If I ever feel really awful I take some Ritalin.
4. pdoc prescribed Klonopin + Neurontin for the anxiety, which has been much improved since.

Kat


> Did the nortriptyline make you feel worse, or merely not help you sleep, so you changed to amitriptyline?
>
> If it was just the sleep thing I would restart nortriptyline at 75mg at night, and also take amitriptyline (oe even better doxepin 25mg) for sleep, you will be hitting your depression with the 1-2 knockout punch, and still remain within normal doseage limits for a tricyclic.
>
> I agree with scott, a list of what drugs have helped and which ones havent would be very usefull.
>
> If things are realy bad, would your insurance cover a short period of treatment in a specialised institution, for example, the Menninger Clinic?

 

Re: Feeling REALLY down » phillipa

Posted by ChicagoKat on October 21, 2012, at 0:51:52

In reply to Re: Feeling REALLY down, posted by phillipa on October 20, 2012, at 20:09:22

> Kat shoot I thought things a bit better? I'm sorry? I can't advise no experience with Nardil. Phillipa

Things *were* a bit better, but now they're worse. It's like being on a see saw..can't wait til effects truly kick in...that is, if they do

Kat

 

Re: Feeling REALLY down » phidippus

Posted by ChicagoKat on October 21, 2012, at 0:56:17

In reply to Re: Feeling REALLY down » ChicagoKat, posted by phidippus on October 20, 2012, at 23:36:52

I have a very excellent therapist who is really helping me.

It's late and I'm too sleepy to list all the meds I've been on, but suffice it to say, I've pretty much been on them all. And yes, I've taken two at a time. I'll work on a list tomorrow when I'm not fighting to keep my eyes open. :)

Kat


> Kat,
>
> Do you have a therapist that you work with? I'm wondering if some of your depression might be better handled psychologically.
>
> How many antidepressants have you been on? Have you ever been on two at the same time? List them all for me :)
>
> Eric

 

Re: up and down

Posted by Dr. Bob on October 21, 2012, at 2:13:16

In reply to Re: up and down » Dr. Bob, posted by ChicagoKat on October 21, 2012, at 0:40:53

> > It occurs to me that up and down moods are associated with optimistic and pessimistic views of the future. And that both of those views are expressed on this board.
>
> How true, Dr. Bob! Sometimes I feel like I'm attending Psycho Babble High School. It seems people have been more negative of late; perhaps that's contributing to a worsening of my symptoms. I like it when the board is just full of people who understand what others are going through, and give them advice and support. Hopefully things will start to get that way more and more in the near future.

Hopefully! In the meantime, how did you get through high school?

Bob

 

Re: up and down

Posted by jono_in_adelaide on October 21, 2012, at 2:14:56

In reply to Re: up and down » jono_in_adelaide, posted by ChicagoKat on October 21, 2012, at 0:49:40

Damn, not sure what to suggest - thats a pretty potent cocktail that you're on, once its had a chance to fully kick it, but it isnt the end of the road by a long shot.

I'm realy hopeing for you that the drus start to kick in soon, I know how deep the abyss can be.

thinking of you

J

 

psychiatry's HOLT GRAIL ???

Posted by Jeroen on October 21, 2012, at 6:00:52

In reply to Lou's response-, posted by Lou Pilder on October 20, 2012, at 20:34:24

psychiatry's HOLT GRAIL ???

are those the glutamate anti psychotics?
or any known medicine..

it propably hasnt been invented yet

what it should do is, minimal side effects, no serious ones like diabetes, TD, neuroleptic maligniant syndrome, dystonia, cardiac side effects


Cures, depression(s), psychosis(es), acute psychosis


When will it come and what will be the name of the medication?

I once had this effect on seroquel i summer of 2004, complete remission, it pooped out on me, maybe because seroquel is a salt, and in some people the body adjust to it...

then there's a story about namenda that it can combat poopout, but i cant try this it will worsen psychosis or do other bad things :(

 

Re: up and down » Dr. Bob

Posted by ChicagoKat on October 21, 2012, at 9:41:56

In reply to Re: up and down, posted by Dr. Bob on October 21, 2012, at 2:13:16

> > > It occurs to me that up and down moods are associated with optimistic and pessimistic views of the future. And that both of those views are expressed on this board.
> >
> > How true, Dr. Bob! Sometimes I feel like I'm attending Psycho Babble High School. It seems people have been more negative of late; perhaps that's contributing to a worsening of my symptoms. I like it when the board is just full of people who understand what others are going through, and give them advice and support. Hopefully things will start to get that way more and more in the near future.
>
> Hopefully! In the meantime, how did you get through high school?
>
> Bob

Me, I got through high school by being invisible :)

 

Re: up and down » jono_in_adelaide

Posted by ChicagoKat on October 21, 2012, at 9:49:19

In reply to Re: up and down, posted by jono_in_adelaide on October 21, 2012, at 2:14:56

> Damn, not sure what to suggest - thats a pretty potent cocktail that you're on, once its had a chance to fully kick it, but it isnt the end of the road by a long shot.
>
> I'm realy hopeing for you that the drus start to kick in soon, I know how deep the abyss can be.
>
> thinking of you
>
> J
>
>
Thanks Jon.

And how's the Wellbutrin going for you?

Kat

 

Re: up and down

Posted by sleepygirl2 on October 21, 2012, at 10:19:07

In reply to Re: up and down » Dr. Bob, posted by ChicagoKat on October 21, 2012, at 9:41:56

I hated high school. I was miserable, ANXIOUS.
I alternated between that extreme anxiety to numbness, those were the good days.
I got by on fantasy. I imagined someone in my head that I was always talking to, not voices, but the way you might run through conversations with other people in your head.
It's just the ultimate belief that someone could care, will help you figure things out.


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