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Posted by xean on June 1, 2012, at 20:44:38
Hello
I have been diagnosed with pstd, social anxiety and schizo-affective. Currently I take Cymbalta 60mg 2x daily, Latuda 80mg 1x daily, Trazodone 150mg 1x daily, Tramadol 50mg 4xdaily and Zanax 2mg 3x daily. This seems a lot to me but I feel great on this combination. I have tried going without each and go down hill. I think I have found the perfect combination for me. Some doctors argue about the Xanax but I have been on it for five years and it works for my social anxiety.
Posted by xean on June 1, 2012, at 21:16:24
In reply to Newbie here a little about me, posted by xean on June 1, 2012, at 20:44:38
Concerning my medications the only problem I am experiencing is being a bit foggy and slight memory problems. Compared to how I was the benefits outweigh these problems.
Posted by Phillipa on June 1, 2012, at 21:36:33
In reply to Re: Newbie here a little about me, posted by xean on June 1, 2012, at 21:16:24
Welcome to babble. So good to hear you have found what works for you. Are you planning on continuing with your current treatment? Phillipa
Posted by xean on June 1, 2012, at 21:48:36
In reply to Re: Newbie here a little about me » xean, posted by Phillipa on June 1, 2012, at 21:36:33
Yes I plan on staying with the meds I currently take. I don't want to go back to the way I was it was a nightmare.
Posted by xean on June 1, 2012, at 22:30:12
In reply to Re: Newbie here a little about me, posted by xean on June 1, 2012, at 21:48:36
After countless meds and years of therapy I had become hopeless a few times and attempted suicide. Twice I overdosed but the last time I had locked myself in my room. When I was found I needed 8 pints of blood and spent awhile in intensive care after which I spent time in a psych ward. Today I am so grateful that I hadn't succeeded because life is worth living and I have finally found what works for me. A good therapist and the right combination of meds. Just never give up you will eventually find what works. It took me 30 years of suffering and many psychiatrists and medications. Just don't give up you will find what works for you.
Posted by Solstice on June 2, 2012, at 8:10:56
In reply to Re: Many meds and given up / trigger, posted by xean on June 1, 2012, at 22:30:12
> Today I am so grateful that I hadn't succeeded because life is worth living and I have finally found what works for me. A good therapist and the right combination of meds. Just never give up you will eventually find what works. It took me 30 years of suffering and many psychiatrists and medications. Just don't give up you will find what works for you.
What a beautiful post, Xean. Welcome, and thanks for sharing.
Solstice
Posted by papillon2 on June 2, 2012, at 9:59:10
In reply to Re: Many meds and given up / trigger » xean, posted by Solstice on June 2, 2012, at 8:10:56
Welcome to Babble!
Posted by xean on June 2, 2012, at 13:38:10
In reply to Re: Many meds and given up / trigger, posted by papillon2 on June 2, 2012, at 9:59:10
Thank you all for welcoming me and I hope that I can give someone hope just don't give up and eventually you will find the right combination of meds and see just how beautiful living is.
Posted by Lou Pilder on June 2, 2012, at 16:43:20
In reply to Re: Many meds and given up / trigger, posted by xean on June 1, 2012, at 22:30:12
> After countless meds and years of therapy I had become hopeless a few times and attempted suicide. Twice I overdosed but the last time I had locked myself in my room. When I was found I needed 8 pints of blood and spent awhile in intensive care after which I spent time in a psych ward. Today I am so grateful that I hadn't succeeded because life is worth living and I have finally found what works for me. A good therapist and the right combination of meds. Just never give up you will eventually find what works. It took me 30 years of suffering and many psychiatrists and medications. Just don't give up you will find what works for you.
xean,
You wrote,[...after years of (mind-altering chemicals)...attempted suicide...you will eventually find what works. It took me 30 years of suffering..many (mind-altering chemicals)..you will find what works for you...].
I have also read the list of mind-altering chemicals that you now take together, Cymbalta,Lunest, tramadol, trazadone.
Now the FDA has posted warnings on drugs that can increase suicdal thinking, so it is a possibility that when you thought of killing yourself, that those thoughts could have been induced in you by the drugs that you were taking then, if they are on the list that the FDA has warnings in a black-box. So if the ones that you are taking now have that warning, then you could have an increase in thinking about killing youself. There is a growing body of evidence to support the conclusion that those that take some of the psychotropic drugs could also have thoughts to commit mass-murder.
The combination of drugs that you take could be deadly. There are CNS depressants combined that could supresss respiration and the combination could also potententiate the risk of serotonin syndrome which can be fatal. When the syndrome starts, one could have altered consciousness and confusion and hallucinations that could cause suicide or homocide thoughts and adverse physiological effects such as tachardia, siezures, (in particular with Tramadol and SSRIs) and could go into a coma. When and if one is lucky to be taken to an ER, how could the doctors know that serotonin syndrome has caused the coma?
You see, I would like for you to have your psychiatrist, if one gave you these drugs, that gave you all these potentally fatal drugs togeather that could also cause a mind-altered state to compel you to want to kill yourself and/or others. In any discussion that we could have, I could provide him/her with educational material that I am prohibited by Mr. Hsiung to post here the could then be given to you. I think that the material could save your life or prevent you from getting a life-ruining condition or addiction.
There were 42,000 people generally agreed by many that died ss a result from psychotropic drugs last year by one means or another. There is a school of thought that for each reported death, there are 100 unreported deaths. I am now leaning to the 100 to 1 ratio for when one dies of a heart attack while taking psychotropic drugs,the family of the dead one does not always have an autopsy to see what caused the heart attack.
Now for those reading this that are considering getting mind-altering for life, from a psychiatrist, I ask for you to ask yourselves:
A. Do you really want to take 30 years to find {the right combination}?
B. What are the chances, if you know, of your death before the 30 years run?
C. What are the chances of a life-ruining condition, if you know?
D. What are the chances of addiction, if you know?
E. Could you ask your doctor if he/she would give you such a combination of drugs, and if so, could you have him/her contact me?
Lou
Posted by xean on June 2, 2012, at 17:20:54
In reply to Lou's response-azyerdogdor » xean, posted by Lou Pilder on June 2, 2012, at 16:43:20
I am aware of the potential of certain meds causing suicidal and homicidal ideation but a am very content and have none of these side affects. I am finally happy and have no more voices telling me these things. I can't conceive the thought of going back to where I was it was torture. I feel no health problems and no thoughts of hurting anyone including myself. I have looked into the interactions of the medications I'm on and the possibility of serotonin syndrome but I feel the maybe my levels were so low that I need these meds. I have no signs of the syndrome. I am always keeping an eye on my health and mental state and if I notice the slightest problem will do something about it. Others around me are educated and keep an eye out as well. Thank you for your post.
Posted by Lou Pilder on June 2, 2012, at 19:41:22
In reply to Lou's response-azyerdogdor » xean, posted by Lou Pilder on June 2, 2012, at 16:43:20
> > After countless meds and years of therapy I had become hopeless a few times and attempted suicide. Twice I overdosed but the last time I had locked myself in my room. When I was found I needed 8 pints of blood and spent awhile in intensive care after which I spent time in a psych ward. Today I am so grateful that I hadn't succeeded because life is worth living and I have finally found what works for me. A good therapist and the right combination of meds. Just never give up you will eventually find what works. It took me 30 years of suffering and many psychiatrists and medications. Just don't give up you will find what works for you.
>
> xean,
> You wrote,[...after years of (mind-altering chemicals)...attempted suicide...you will eventually find what works. It took me 30 years of suffering..many (mind-altering chemicals)..you will find what works for you...].
> I have also read the list of mind-altering chemicals that you now take together, Cymbalta,Lunest, tramadol, trazadone.
> Now the FDA has posted warnings on drugs that can increase suicdal thinking, so it is a possibility that when you thought of killing yourself, that those thoughts could have been induced in you by the drugs that you were taking then, if they are on the list that the FDA has warnings in a black-box. So if the ones that you are taking now have that warning, then you could have an increase in thinking about killing youself. There is a growing body of evidence to support the conclusion that those that take some of the psychotropic drugs could also have thoughts to commit mass-murder.
> The combination of drugs that you take could be deadly. There are CNS depressants combined that could supresss respiration and the combination could also potententiate the risk of serotonin syndrome which can be fatal. When the syndrome starts, one could have altered consciousness and confusion and hallucinations that could cause suicide or homocide thoughts and adverse physiological effects such as tachardia, siezures, (in particular with Tramadol and SSRIs) and could go into a coma. When and if one is lucky to be taken to an ER, how could the doctors know that serotonin syndrome has caused the coma?
> You see, I would like for you to have your psychiatrist, if one gave you these drugs, that gave you all these potentally fatal drugs togeather that could also cause a mind-altered state to compel you to want to kill yourself and/or others. In any discussion that we could have, I could provide him/her with educational material that I am prohibited by Mr. Hsiung to post here the could then be given to you. I think that the material could save your life or prevent you from getting a life-ruining condition or addiction.
> There were 42,000 people generally agreed by many that died ss a result from psychotropic drugs last year by one means or another. There is a school of thought that for each reported death, there are 100 unreported deaths. I am now leaning to the 100 to 1 ratio for when one dies of a heart attack while taking psychotropic drugs,the family of the dead one does not always have an autopsy to see what caused the heart attack.
> Now for those reading this that are considering getting mind-altering for life, from a psychiatrist, I ask for you to ask yourselves:
> A. Do you really want to take 30 years to find {the right combination}?
> B. What are the chances, if you know, of your death before the 30 years run?
> C. What are the chances of a life-ruining condition, if you know?
> D. What are the chances of addiction, if you know?
> E. Could you ask your doctor if he/she would give you such a combination of drugs, and if so, could you have him/her contact me?
> LouFriends,
If you are considering being a discussant in this thread, I am requesting that you view the following videos.
If you could, I think that there could be some information unbeknownst to some that hold to the psychiatric theory of serotonin in relation to depression and such.
Lou
To view these videos:
A. Bring up Google
B. Type in:
[youtube, Dr Timothy Scott, serotonin]
There usually will be two at the top. I would like for you to view them.
Posted by Phillipa on June 2, 2012, at 19:50:55
In reply to Lou's request-cykidhaphrd, posted by Lou Pilder on June 2, 2012, at 19:41:22
Lou babble is to support others not try and scare them. Let people enjoy what works for them. Is it possible you could benefit from some meds also? Phillipa
Posted by xean on June 2, 2012, at 20:38:25
In reply to Lou's request-cykidhaphrd, posted by Lou Pilder on June 2, 2012, at 19:41:22
Outcome speaks volumes. As I have said I feel great. There is no reason to try and change something that is working unless the persons health is declining. I do understand your concern but I'm not depressed now. I feel healthy and I continue to see my family doctor as well as a psychiatrist and counselor. They are all keeping an eye on my health and well being. The only problem is a bit of clouded thinking and slight memory problems. for example it takes me a a little more time to think of a response but it does come to me. Hopefully in time this will clear up because the cymbalta latuda and trazodone are pretty new. The xanax and tramadol I have been on for years and at first made me tired and clouded but that wore off as I hope will happen with cymbalta and latuda. Thanks for your post but everyone is different.
Posted by Lou Pilder on June 3, 2012, at 3:33:28
In reply to Re: Lou's request-cykidhaphrd » Lou Pilder, posted by Phillipa on June 2, 2012, at 19:50:55
> Lou babble is to support others not try and scare them. Let people enjoy what works for them. Is it possible you could benefit from some meds also? Phillipa
h is flat, [support}
Phillipa,
You wrote what you wrote above.
Now {support} and {reinforcement} are two different aspects of dialog. If one writes that they want to obtain or exchamnge illegal drugs through the mail with posters here, to go along with that hypothetical poster could be {reinforcement}, but I would not consider it {supportive }.
Now if a hypothetical poster posts that taking alcohol with benzos is good, and it makes them feel good, I would not consider reinforceing that combination for it could cause death. Instead, I would post the {facts} about that combination, facts that could mark the difference between a live person and a corpse. and that's what I call support.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on June 3, 2012, at 6:13:44
In reply to Re: Lou's request-cykidhaphrd » Lou Pilder, posted by xean on June 2, 2012, at 20:38:25
> Outcome speaks volumes. As I have said I feel great. There is no reason to try and change something that is working unless the persons health is declining. I do understand your concern but I'm not depressed now. I feel healthy and I continue to see my family doctor as well as a psychiatrist and counselor. They are all keeping an eye on my health and well being. The only problem is a bit of clouded thinking and slight memory problems. for example it takes me a a little more time to think of a response but it does come to me. Hopefully in time this will clear up because the cymbalta latuda and trazodone are pretty new. The xanax and tramadol I have been on for years and at first made me tired and clouded but that wore off as I hope will happen with cymbalta and latuda. Thanks for your post but everyone is different.
xean,
You wrote,
[...they are all keeping an eye...xanax and tramadol...].
Do they sit with you while you are taking a bath, if you take one?
You see, the two drugs are CNS depressants and can supress respiratory function. Taken together, the two have a greater supression than if only one is taken. One could drown in a bathtub.
Now you say that everyone is differernt. I am unsure as to what you are wanting to mean by that. If you could post answers to the following, then I could hav the opportunity to respond accordingly.
A. When 1000 people take the combo that you list here, what are the chances of the combo causing death, if you know?
B. Now Xanax is a drug where those taking it could have to go through a horrifying withdrawal if they stop the drug. Do you plan to ever stop that drug or are you thinking of taking it for life?
C. Are you aware that tardive dyskinesia can result by taking the drugs that you list here? If so, do you know if or if not you could be afflicted with that, or what the chances are of others that take any of those drugs of getting that?
D. If the medical liturature states that it is contraindicated, and could cause death, to take the combination of drugs that you list together, could you post here by asking your psychiatrist what his/her rationale could be for prescribing the drugs all at once to you?
E. If the prescriber's rationale is so that you will not feel depressed, in your opinion then, could someone take heroine without having to be criminalized and go to jail, on the same basis because that drug could make them feel not depressed?
F. Are you aware that more people die each month from psychiatric drugs than were killed in the 911 attacks?
Lou
Posted by xean on June 3, 2012, at 11:49:47
In reply to Lou's reply-ehvrieghwundif » xean, posted by Lou Pilder on June 3, 2012, at 6:13:44
Can yo honestly say that everyone has the same brain chemistry. Isn't it possible that I have such a low amount of serotonin that the amount I am receiving is adequate for me. There is no sign or hint of tardive dyskinesia or serotonin syndrome. I am aware of the xanax withdrawal. No the doctor doesn't monitor me in the bath that would unethical and I'm not out of it. People see medications like xanax and tramadol and automatically think the person is high. I do not feel high I feel alert and alive. Lou you have to consider everyone is different. Everyone reacts to medications differently some good some bad. The whole practice of medicine is trial and error. In the end lets hope people find the right combinations even if you don't agree.
Posted by Phillipa on June 3, 2012, at 19:44:23
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-ehvrieghwundif » Lou Pilder, posted by xean on June 3, 2012, at 11:49:47
So glad you are doing well. Phillipa
Posted by xean on June 3, 2012, at 19:48:35
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-ehvrieghwundif » xean, posted by Phillipa on June 3, 2012, at 19:44:23
Thank you
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