Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 1016104

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What are these symptoms?

Posted by Roslynn on April 21, 2012, at 11:16:35

Hi, I have been having these symptoms lately and wonder what they indicate:

negative thoughts, rumination, anxiety, strange dreams, panic/doom/"jump out of skin" feeling, the top of my head feels hot/churning, like there is a band around my head, mood is "ping-ponging" up and down, irritability, anger, extremely annoyed by little things,keyed up, feeling terrified, nightmarish quality of things, insomnia, songs running through my head faster and faster.

Does this sound familiar to anyone?

Thank you,
Roslynn

 

Re: What are these symptoms?

Posted by Phil on April 21, 2012, at 11:54:24

In reply to What are these symptoms?, posted by Roslynn on April 21, 2012, at 11:16:35

Well, depression, anxiety/panic, Your moods go up and down, how often? Maybe cyclothymia or depression / anxiety.

Maybe Bipolar II (particularly nasty) deep depression mostly rare mania / hypomania. With anxiety.

Are you seeing a pdoc?

 

Re: What are these symptoms? » Roslynn

Posted by gadchik on April 21, 2012, at 11:56:23

In reply to What are these symptoms?, posted by Roslynn on April 21, 2012, at 11:16:35

Hi,this sounds like me when I wasnt sleeping,and became psychotic. Have you recently stopped or started any meds?Btw,I love your signature.I used to have that thought when I was so down,and never thought I'd get well.I sure hope you can find out what's happening to you.

 

Re: What are these symptoms?

Posted by polarbear206 on April 21, 2012, at 17:25:41

In reply to Re: What are these symptoms?, posted by Phil on April 21, 2012, at 11:54:24

Mixed bipolar state.

 

Re: What are these symptoms?

Posted by Phil on April 21, 2012, at 18:00:48

In reply to Re: What are these symptoms?, posted by polarbear206 on April 21, 2012, at 17:25:41

Good point. Those are a barrel of laughs.

 

Re: What are these symptoms? » Roslynn

Posted by sleepygirl2 on April 21, 2012, at 20:06:58

In reply to What are these symptoms?, posted by Roslynn on April 21, 2012, at 11:16:35

Sounds awful :-(
Take good care of yourself.

 

Re: What are these symptoms?

Posted by Phillipa on April 21, 2012, at 20:37:00

In reply to Re: What are these symptoms? » Roslynn, posted by sleepygirl2 on April 21, 2012, at 20:06:58

I have some of those things? I guess just used to it. I live in fear. Phillipa

 

Re: What are these symptoms?

Posted by bleauberry on April 22, 2012, at 7:40:24

In reply to What are these symptoms?, posted by Roslynn on April 21, 2012, at 11:16:35

Those symptoms are within the anxiety spectrum primarily but overlap into depression and possibly schizo-affective spectrum. Go to 10 different doctors and they could tell you 10 different things because it is not clear cut. Not black and white.

To answer your question more directly, what are these symptoms, I would say one or all of these:
1. Too much adrenaline/epinephrine/norepinephrine stuff going on.
2. Not enough gaba/serotonin stuff going on.
3. Some sort of foreign substance interfering with neurotransmitter production, neuro regulation, or functionality of their respective receptors. Metals, plastics, petroleums, infection toxins.

What could cause these kinds of imbalances? Adrenal issues for sure....cortisol too low or cortisol too high or cortisol all over the map outside its intended pattern. Too low, too high, same symptoms....runaway adrenaline.

How to approach treatment depends on your personal comfort zone. There are some herbs that can calm that stuff down within minutes. There are a few for depression and anxiety. Some of them just happen to balance or modulate the adrenals/cortisol at the same time. Longterm = rhodiola rosea, short term = skullcap, lemon balm, passionflower, valerian. Vitamins include all of the Bs, C, and minerals.

Chromium might be especially important to help balance any sugar/glucose issues involved, and selenium to help negate some of the damage of toxic metals. I mention those things simply because they directly cause symptoms as you described.

Longterm chronic unsuspected occult infections can throw the brain into turmoil due to all the toxic chemicals they release into the bloodstream. Talking about things like lyme, similar other lyme-like bacteria, candida fungus, and a handful of others. There are a handful of herbs with the strength to suppress these things in general fashion since we will probably never know the exact pathogen involved.

Time to take a close detective look at foods that go in the grocery cart. People who have never suspected or identified a food sensitivity problem are usually stunned when they discover symptoms as severe as yours can actually come from eating the wrong stuff. It takes a bit of detective work doing rotation/elimination diets to probe for potential problems. The most common ones are gluten and dairy, others include citrus, nuts, and eggs, but any food is suspect. It's more expensive, but you will do better no matter what you do if your foods are organic not conventional and if they are fresh prepared not processed.

If you just want to go to a pdoc and get meds then who knows, those 10 doctors I mentioned earlier, well, your 10 scripts would probably include several choices of ssri antidepressants, a couple benzos, antipsychotics, and mood stabilizers. For fastest knock down of symptoms you would want to look at the benzos and antipsychotiucs, very low doses, but understand none of these are longterm fixes and none will do a thing to resist or reverse the actual disease process in place.

So basically, if it were me I would want some immediate relief which could be meds or herbs or both, but I would want to also put on my longterm detective cap to start eliminating....or finding...possible root causes.

Just a sidenote, at my worst my psychiatric symptoms could be described exactly as you described in your post. That is a rather common presentation in neuro lyme, which I have, but there are other things to rule in/rule out also.

 

Re: What are these symptoms?

Posted by Roslynn on April 23, 2012, at 16:30:38

In reply to What are these symptoms?, posted by Roslynn on April 21, 2012, at 11:16:35

Hi all,

I should have specified that these symptoms are not all happening at once. There is no thought disorder or psychosis. I am not hearing things, I just have a song stuck in my head.

I think it's either extreme anxiety or something along the bipolar spectrum. I wanted to see what you guys thought. Thanks for your opinions!

Roslynn

 

Re: What are these symptoms?

Posted by TiredofChemicals on April 29, 2012, at 11:42:09

In reply to What are these symptoms?, posted by Roslynn on April 21, 2012, at 11:16:35

> Hi, I have been having these symptoms lately and wonder what they indicate:
>
> negative thoughts, rumination, anxiety, strange dreams, panic/doom/"jump out of skin" feeling, the top of my head feels hot/churning, like there is a band around my head, mood is "ping-ponging" up and down, irritability, anger, extremely annoyed by little things,keyed up, feeling terrified, nightmarish quality of things, insomnia, songs running through my head faster and faster.
>
> Does this sound familiar to anyone?
>
> Thank you,
> Roslynn


^^^
You know what's funny!? I have had almost all of those symptoms and many other painful psychiatric conditions. The "funny" part to me was that they were exaggerated when I was seeing a psychiatrist.

You know? How they will give you a little form asking about the exact conditions that you are experiencing and more. But the kicker (for me) is that they're going to give you a; man-made chemical, or combination of chemicals to fix the problems that they suggest!

I hope not to discourage others in seeking psychiatric help.

For me, I believe now, that I was often taking psychiatric chemicals to improve conditions that, may have been present, but they were exaggerated when I would visit a psychiatrist.

Is it too much to consider that the psychiatrists are magnifying psychiatric conditions? Is it also possible that they are capitalizing on these conditions (through the power of suggestion)?

These doctors have a government issued and approved certification to dispense chemicals, that are dangerous and sometimes, produce life ruining conditions (as Lou calls them).

Is it also too much to consider that these doctors
have a already-built franchise with free will to dispense dangerous chemicals for conditions that they have exaggerated or even manufactured through the power of suggestion?

Is depression even a human condition at all? I believe that "depression" does exist. For me though, "depression" would not be the correct description towards my mental anguish.

I have come to realize (through ten years of psychiatric treatment) and also, some introspect and self evaluation as well as personal inventory of my "state of being" that I am just a miserable son of a bitch!


I am often a miserable person but it is not due to some recent life experiences or even some "chemical imbalance" in my brain that somehow developed.

I am a miserable person that goes all the way back to my earliest days and upbringing. There is no pill or chemical that is going to correct my "depression" because I am not depressed.

I am saddened and angry because of life experiences and; family, social, work abuse issues throughout my life!

If that is what has caused my "depression", there is no magic pill that is going to "fix" my present state of being.......well.......maybe ECT as it may wipe out bad memories of life experiences. lol

The option of giving me an ant-psychotic "medication" addresses my mental issues, in that,
ant-psychotics turn me into a zombie, not having the ability to feel good or bad! lol

I'll stick to my opiates and/or medical marijuana as they make me feel good, even euphoric at times! I am actually reducing my opiate intake so that I will be in a state of not being physically addicted to opiate pain killers.

Marijuana and all the issues that are involved with that benign (in my opinion) plant are in direct conflict with Big Pharmaceuticals and federal law for very specific reasons!

Big Pharmaceuticals don't want marijuana to be legalized as that would put a very big negative, economic impact in their wallet!

Federal government does not want marijuana legalized for many reasons as most of you are aware. Prohibition is not the answer in regards to marijuana. I believe that the majority of the american population is starting to realize this.

Many lives have been (and still are) being ruined from the laws surrounding marijuana. Is it too much to consider that the government is in better financial condition with laws that prohibit marijuana?

Consider also that, the government wants as much control over it's citizens that they can legally harass and take all physical property from individuals involved with marijuana.

That is a very powerful position to be in! I do not want the government to have that much control over the majority of, otherwise, law abiding citizens, except for the simple act of using marijuana for; responsible, recreational and medical uses!

I have direct knowledge of law enforcements illegal activity and involvement with marijuana. THAT to me is the most astounding and enraging (as it should you!) result of the laws against marijuana!


I may have gotten off topic.......sorry, had a buzz lol.


Regards



 

Re: What are these symptoms?

Posted by phidippus on April 30, 2012, at 21:58:46

In reply to What are these symptoms?, posted by Roslynn on April 21, 2012, at 11:16:35

Sounds very mixed mood, bipolar, if you know what I mean.

I think you could use a mood satbilzer and AP tto ocalm down the agggressive feelings.

Eric

 

Re: What are these symptoms?

Posted by lawgrindmeintoground on May 4, 2012, at 19:37:09

In reply to What are these symptoms?, posted by Roslynn on April 21, 2012, at 11:16:35

Bit of a late post, I realize, but that's almost exactly what I'm going through right now. People (by that I mean the general public and not the knowing participants here) tend to forget that mania isn't always happy. That irritability and anger along with energy and racing thoughts sound like classic manic symptoms to me. Try bipolar spectrum. Beware of antidepressants (at least not in conjunction with other stabilizers), as they are well known for making it worse.


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