Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 1003056

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Generic Zyprexa. Day one

Posted by Zyprexa on November 19, 2011, at 6:34:29

So I took the first 10mg teva olanzapine. And feeling very positive about it. Not a huge difference.

 

Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one

Posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 8:03:46

In reply to Generic Zyprexa. Day one, posted by Zyprexa on November 19, 2011, at 6:34:29

>Not a huge difference.

Excellent. Also, don't forget that you'll have good days and bad days whatever brand you take. That's life. Some people are too keen to attribute everything that happens to the specific brand that they are taking.

 

Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one

Posted by SLS on November 19, 2011, at 9:36:48

In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one, posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 8:03:46

> > Not a huge difference.

> Some people are too keen to attribute everything that happens to the specific brand that they are taking.

I once read that more people are sensitive to changes in brands of anticonvulsants than most other types of drugs. My failure to respond to generic lamotrigine would be an example of this. Mylan was the worst.


- Scott

 

Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one

Posted by Zyprexa on November 19, 2011, at 9:42:33

In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one, posted by SLS on November 19, 2011, at 9:36:48

There was a big change from wellbutrin sr to generic. Thats why I was worried about it.

So far I think the zyprexa is going well. See what happens in few days.

 

Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one

Posted by Zyprexa on November 19, 2011, at 9:45:20

In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one, posted by SLS on November 19, 2011, at 9:36:48

There was also a noticable difference between the two generics of perphenazine, had me concerned.

 

Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one

Posted by Phillipa on November 19, 2011, at 9:53:45

In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one, posted by Zyprexa on November 19, 2011, at 9:45:20

Xanax the same with Greenstone being superior. I wish could afford to see with valium. As haven't taken brand in years. Phillipa

 

Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one

Posted by Christ_empowered on November 19, 2011, at 12:19:44

In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one, posted by Phillipa on November 19, 2011, at 9:53:45

I think (and hope) you'll be just fine with the generic. Like SLS posted, the difference between brand and generic anticonvulsants can be so pronounced that some doctors keep patients on brand to avoid the hassle with generics (I had a doc do this with me on depakote).

Good luck, and do keep up posted.

 

Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one » Christ_empowered

Posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 13:04:44

In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one, posted by Christ_empowered on November 19, 2011, at 12:19:44

>Like SLS posted, the difference between brand and generic anticonvulsants can be so pronounced that some doctors keep patients on brand to avoid the hassle with generics

It's not that the difference between branded and generic anticonvulsants is greater than other types of meds, it's just that epileptics may be sensitive to small changes in blood levels and the consequences could be more severe.

 

Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one » ed_uk2010

Posted by SLS on November 19, 2011, at 14:12:25

In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one » Christ_empowered, posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 13:04:44

> > Like SLS posted, the difference between brand and generic anticonvulsants can be so pronounced that some doctors keep patients on brand to avoid the hassle with generics

> It's not that the difference between branded and generic anticonvulsants is greater than other types of meds, it's just that epileptics may be sensitive to small changes in blood levels and the consequences could be more severe.


This is correct. Generics are sometimes inferior - period.


- Scott

 

Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one » SLS

Posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 14:20:38

In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one » ed_uk2010, posted by SLS on November 19, 2011, at 14:12:25

>This is correct. Generics are sometimes inferior - period.

I didn't say that. An unstable epileptic patient could remain on the same manufacturer's generic, instead of the same manufacturer's brand.

 

Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one » SLS

Posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 14:25:29

In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one, posted by SLS on November 19, 2011, at 9:36:48

>My failure to respond to generic lamotrigine would be an example of this. Mylan was the worst.

Hmm, but how do you know you weren't spontaneously worse when taking the Mylan product? Even if the bioavailability is not quite the same as Lamictal, it will only be marginally different. Changes in mood are often independent of medication.

 

Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one » ed_uk2010

Posted by SLS on November 19, 2011, at 14:34:51

In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one » SLS, posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 14:25:29

> >My failure to respond to generic lamotrigine would be an example of this. Mylan was the worst.
>
> Hmm, but how do you know you weren't spontaneously worse when taking the Mylan product?

Please, Ed.


- Scott

 

Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one » SLS

Posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 15:34:05

In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one » ed_uk2010, posted by SLS on November 19, 2011, at 14:34:51

>>Hmm, but how do you know you weren't spontaneously worse when taking the Mylan product?
>
> Please, Ed.

I guess that only happens to the rest of us.

 

Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one » Phillipa

Posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 15:34:36

In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one, posted by Phillipa on November 19, 2011, at 9:53:45

> Xanax the same with Greenstone being superior.

Evidence, please?

 

Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one

Posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 15:36:46

In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one » ed_uk2010, posted by SLS on November 19, 2011, at 14:34:51

I am starting to remember why I stopped posting here.

 

Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one » ed_uk2010

Posted by SLS on November 19, 2011, at 15:44:31

In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one » SLS, posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 15:34:05

> >>Hmm, but how do you know you weren't spontaneously worse when taking the Mylan product?
> >
> > Please, Ed.
>
> I guess that only happens to the rest of us.


I'm sure you meant to speak only for yourself.


- Scott

 

Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one

Posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 15:46:46

In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one » ed_uk2010, posted by SLS on November 19, 2011, at 15:44:31

> > >>Hmm, but how do you know you weren't spontaneously worse when taking the Mylan product?
> > >
> > > Please, Ed.
> >
> > I guess that only happens to the rest of us.
>
>
> I'm sure you meant to speak only for yourself.
>
>
> - Scott

No, not a all. Virtually everyone with mental health problems gets better and worse and then better and worse.


 

Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one

Posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 15:51:52

In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one, posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 15:46:46

>Virtually everyone with mental health problems gets better and worse and then better and worse.

...and funnily enough, not everything is due to what brand of meds you are on.

 

Ed, did i tell you lucky the cat is no longer? :(

Posted by Jeroen on November 19, 2011, at 15:59:32

In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one, posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 15:51:52

Ed, did i tell you lucky the cat is no longer? :(

 

Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one » ed_uk2010

Posted by SLS on November 19, 2011, at 16:15:50

In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one, posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 15:51:52

> >Virtually everyone with mental health problems gets better and worse and then better and worse.
>
> ...and funnily enough, not everything is due to what brand of meds you are on.


I see nothing funny about any of this.

I think most of us would like generic drugs to be equally functional as the original products.

I can't be bothered to explain why I was able to take 500 mg of Mylan lamotrigine without receiving benefit or experiencing side effects. Excipients perhaps? If I took 500 mg of GSK Lamictal, I wouldn't be able to remember my own name. Teva was better, but inadequate at 200 mg. Upon my return to Lamictal 200 mg, I was able to recapture its antidepressant effect within 48 hours. My doctor is not the only one to see defects in generic lamotrigine.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=18695164

- Scott

 

Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one

Posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 16:20:46

In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one » ed_uk2010, posted by SLS on November 19, 2011, at 16:15:50

>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=18695164

That is not a very impressive study, but thanks for posting, it sure makes it feel very scientific.

 

ti took GSK 25 mg lamictal and got psychotic

Posted by Jeroen on November 19, 2011, at 16:21:06

In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one » ed_uk2010, posted by SLS on November 19, 2011, at 16:15:50

ti took GSK 25 mg lamictal and got psychotic within the hour of taking it, no jokes, psychosis onset due lamictal, still have it.... so f*cked up

 

Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one

Posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 16:22:17

In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one » ed_uk2010, posted by SLS on November 19, 2011, at 16:15:50

> Upon my return to Lamictal 200 mg, I was able to recapture its antidepressant effect within 48 hours.

And what is that? You do not seem to experience much benefit from anything you take.

 

Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one » ed_uk2010

Posted by SLS on November 19, 2011, at 16:24:15

In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one, posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 16:22:17

> > Upon my return to Lamictal 200 mg, I was able to recapture its antidepressant effect within 48 hours.
>
> And what is that? You do not seem to experience much benefit from anything you take.
>


Nice, Ed.


- Scott

 

Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one » ed_uk2010

Posted by SLS on November 19, 2011, at 16:25:22

In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one, posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 16:20:46

> >http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=18695164
>
> That is not a very impressive study,


What did you find so obviously wrong with it?


- Scott


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