Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 984745

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Yes , Im waiting for a MED to cure me . Thats all

Posted by tepi on May 6, 2011, at 20:13:19


No no no , Im tired of hear , there is not a miracle drug , you need to do other things to overcome your problem... and you know what . Im tired of hearing that ! . Im not gonna do therapies or rare things , they dont work on me !!! I NEED A DRUG THAT CURE ME AND MAKE ME A NORMAL PERSON !!!
Yes , thats all I want , just take my pill everyday and be a normal person ! Is that too much to ask??? . No more therapies and docs ! I WANT A DRUG THAT MAKE FEEL IM PART OF THIS WORLD !

WHERE IS IT??????? MAYBE ITS NOT ON EARTH YET

Tepi

3600mg Neurontin
1.5 mg Tafil

Terrible Social phobia, depression , mild pyscho


 

Re: Yes , Im waiting for a MED to cure me . Thats all » tepi

Posted by Phillipa on May 6, 2011, at 23:08:38

In reply to Yes , Im waiting for a MED to cure me . Thats all, posted by tepi on May 6, 2011, at 20:13:19

Tepi I'm afraid not from what I read. You sound very angry. I don't feel you are alone in your frustration. Love Phillipa

 

Re: Yes , Im waiting for a MED to cure me . Thats all » tepi

Posted by SLS on May 7, 2011, at 3:35:06

In reply to Yes , Im waiting for a MED to cure me . Thats all, posted by tepi on May 6, 2011, at 20:13:19

Hi Tepi.

Let's not worry what other people think or say about you or your condition. Let's focus on your beliefs first.

What facts have convinced you that you have a biological mental illness? I am sure that you do, but I want to see how much you know about your own medical condition. It might help you to make a list. The goal here is to make it absolutely clear in your mind what you are being challenged with. You have to be sure of the nature of what you are experiencing to be able to explain it convincingly to those people who remain receptive to you.

It might help you to know that many of the people who challenge you in error do so because they care, but don't know how to help you. They suggest ineffective treatment strategies to you out of concern, frustration, and, unfortunately, well-intentioned ignorance.

Try to describe to me what are your reasons for believing that you have a biological brain disorder. List as many reasons as possible. We'll go from there.


- Scott


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> No no no , Im tired of hear , there is not a miracle drug , you need to do other things to overcome your problem... and you know what . Im tired of hearing that ! . Im not gonna do therapies or rare things , they dont work on me !!! I NEED A DRUG THAT CURE ME AND MAKE ME A NORMAL PERSON !!!
> Yes , thats all I want , just take my pill everyday and be a normal person ! Is that too much to ask??? . No more therapies and docs ! I WANT A DRUG THAT MAKE FEEL IM PART OF THIS WORLD !
>
> WHERE IS IT??????? MAYBE ITS NOT ON EARTH YET
>
> Tepi
>
> 3600mg Neurontin
> 1.5 mg Tafil
>
> Terrible Social phobia, depression , mild pyscho
>
>
>

 

Re: Yes , Im waiting for a MED to cure me . Thats all » tepi

Posted by SLS on May 7, 2011, at 4:01:53

In reply to Yes , Im waiting for a MED to cure me . Thats all, posted by tepi on May 6, 2011, at 20:13:19

Just a thought...

Have you ever tried combining Nardil with an antipsychotic? If not, then there is still hope for you. I am sure that there are many other drug combinations that you have not yet tried - even more reason to hope.

Here is an example of a medication regime that helps me:

Nardil 90mg
nortriptyline 150mg
Lamictal 200mg
Abilify 10mg
lithium 300mg

I have tried to discontinue or reduce the dosage of each agent to establish its necessity for "curing" me. I relapse when any one of these drugs is removed or reduced in dosage. It is a fine-tuned regime that works for me, and that uses the optimum dosage of each drug that had been established through experimentation in conjunction with my doctor.


- Scott

 

Re: Yes , Im waiting for a MED to cure me . Thats all

Posted by jms600 on May 7, 2011, at 8:57:13

In reply to Yes , Im waiting for a MED to cure me . Thats all, posted by tepi on May 6, 2011, at 20:13:19

I would agree with SLS - an MAO inhibitor plus an antipsychotic may be the answer. I want to try phenelzine but my doctor will not prescribe it as it's an MAOI.

I know what you mean about hearing those sort of things. I get told very similar things. I feel that other approaches have been very unsuccessful with me too.

 

Re: Yes , Im waiting for a MED to cure me . Thats all

Posted by mtdewcmu on May 7, 2011, at 11:22:19

In reply to Yes , Im waiting for a MED to cure me . Thats all, posted by tepi on May 6, 2011, at 20:13:19

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> No no no , Im tired of hear , there is not a miracle drug , you need to do other things to overcome your problem... and you know what . Im tired of hearing that ! . Im not gonna do therapies or rare things , they dont work on me

I find it annoying to confide my issues in someone only to find out that they have their own anti-med philosophy. There is no response that can convince someone that you have really tried their positive-thinking method and had it fail, because the fact that you are still suffering proves to them that you haven't. It's especially hard when they are convinced you need more religion and try to convert you or get you to go to their church. My friend said to me this week that my method was "meds" and her method was Jesus, and so obviously mine was inferior. I don't see how meds and Jesus are mutually exclusive. I doubt that med use is nonexistent among believers, or that religion amounts to a surefire cure. I probably would have come across this surprising fact in the newspaper if it were true.

 

Re: Yes , Im waiting for a MED to cure me . Thats all » SLS

Posted by tepi on May 8, 2011, at 11:13:26

In reply to Re: Yes , Im waiting for a MED to cure me . Thats all » tepi, posted by SLS on May 7, 2011, at 3:35:06

> Hi Tepi.
>
> Let's not worry what other people think or say about you or your condition. Let's focus on your beliefs first.
>
> What facts have convinced you that you have a biological mental illness? I am sure that you do, but I want to see how much you know about your own medical condition. It might help you to make a list. The goal here is to make it absolutely clear in your mind what you are being challenged with. You have to be sure of the nature of what you are experiencing to be able to explain it convincingly to those people who remain receptive to you.
>
> It might help you to know that many of the people who challenge you in error do so because they care, but don't know how to help you. They suggest ineffective treatment strategies to you out of concern, frustration, and, unfortunately, well-intentioned ignorance.
>
> Try to describe to me what are your reasons for believing that you have a biological brain disorder. List as many reasons as possible. We'll go from there.
>
>
> - Scott
>
>

Hi Scott , what do you exactly mean? Sorry , english is not my first language.. You want me to tell you why I think my brain is not working well?
Why I think Im a sick people?

Im always sad all the time Im thinking that Im sick and there is nothing that can calm me down or take away these daily thougths
I run away from people , I cant stand looking at people eyes . I fear them so much . I feel so vulnerable to what they may think about me I cant even talk to a bartender
I have no friends, I have no girls in my life

This happen to me:


""I saw this guy walking on the street (about six meters away), and he reminded me of someone I know as a friend. Before this friday´s events it would have been extremely distressing to just look at him (even if sure about that it was my friend walking there). He looked at me and I looked at him in a curious way.
Mind: Hi, who are you? Do I know you? No, probably not... oh why bother. I hope you´re having a good time. (We did not verbally interact.)
Suddenly he stops to greet and share a hug with a woman (what I suppose to be his girlfriend). I feel happy for them and know that they like being in each others company. It all looks very nice and beautiful. Love, friendship or whatever it might have been.
I remembered how I had felt about this kind of scenario before. Don´t look at me! Is it him? I can´t look at him... Oh no he has seen me... Was it my "friend"? Sh*t, what if it was? Dammit, now I must go and talk to him and act nice.... Those kind of strange things would occur. Negative beliefs in that situation that would have been greatly reduced, had a cigarette been smoked just about then.""

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> > No no no , Im tired of hear , there is not a miracle drug , you need to do other things to overcome your problem... and you know what . Im tired of hearing that ! . Im not gonna do therapies or rare things , they dont work on me !!! I NEED A DRUG THAT CURE ME AND MAKE ME A NORMAL PERSON !!!
> > Yes , thats all I want , just take my pill everyday and be a normal person ! Is that too much to ask??? . No more therapies and docs ! I WANT A DRUG THAT MAKE FEEL IM PART OF THIS WORLD !
> >
> > WHERE IS IT??????? MAYBE ITS NOT ON EARTH YET
> >
> > Tepi
> >
> > 3600mg Neurontin
> > 1.5 mg Tafil
> >
> > Terrible Social phobia, depression , mild pyscho
> >
> >
> >
>
>

 

Re: Yes , Im waiting for a MED to cure me . Thats all

Posted by sigismund on May 8, 2011, at 13:11:09

In reply to Re: Yes , Im waiting for a MED to cure me . Thats all » SLS, posted by tepi on May 8, 2011, at 11:13:26

The point is academic anyway, given the treatments available. You have tried Nardil, Tep, and went off it because you felt frightened rather than depressed and it wasn't helping much. (Is that right?)

I know you have felt frightened for a very long time.
How do you feel now, compared to before you started benzos?
I wonder if they give you short term relief and in the long term make you worse?

That's not much hope is it?
To give up the only thing that makes life almost bearable to see if things improve?

I once walked into a bar and stood there and waited to be served. As things got worse and worse, I pretended that things were OK as best as I could. Then I pretended I had to leave. Maybe I stood there 10 minutes?

Young people hold themselves to such ridiculous standards. If they could see themselves as older people see them they would cheer up immediately....so young, so healthy, so good looking.

 

Re: Yes , Im waiting for a MED to cure me . Thats all

Posted by mtdewcmu on May 8, 2011, at 15:42:00

In reply to Re: Yes , Im waiting for a MED to cure me . Thats all, posted by sigismund on May 8, 2011, at 13:11:09

> I once walked into a bar and stood there and waited to be served.

Sounds like the buildup to a joke.

>
> Young people hold themselves to such ridiculous standards. If they could see themselves as older people see them they would cheer up immediately....so young, so healthy, so good looking.

Youth is fleeting, so you don't want to waste it feeling awful.

 

Re: Yes , Im waiting for a MED to cure me . Thats all » tepi

Posted by floatingbridge on May 8, 2011, at 16:50:31

In reply to Yes , Im waiting for a MED to cure me . Thats all, posted by tepi on May 6, 2011, at 20:13:19

Tepi, I am so sorry. I agree with the comment that people suggest anything to a distressed person to try and be helpful. Expressing care is difficult. In my own life, someone who loves me very much is angry at me being ill and also having the psychological issues I do. She alternates between being alright to becoming verbally abusive. She firmly thinks if I withdraw from one particular medication (that I take a silly small amount of) I will suddenly be full of love of life and be a zippy, fun-loving person. It truly is absurd. I've been through this with her so many times, it isn't as hurtful as it used to be. But it still hurts!

You do need a med to help you. I understand. May I say in my experience, (many decades), that pain and fear run grooves into my brain, body, thoughts, and behavior that adds only adds to the load I already started with.

I am glad you get out Tepi. That's great right there. And that you can feel some happiness for other's happiness is brilliant. Do you know how wonderful that is, and how much strength you already have?


I don't have it near as deep as you. Yet I feel, especially in the past like a spiritual orphan. It's so lonely sometimes. I have said to myself what I think you have said, something like not having a place on this earth. It's a terrible feeling. I think I look o k. on the outside. But few know how terrible it can feel. Isn't that how it is for many people. I have spent years in a
prison of envy, thinking 'everyone' else is 'o.k.' Well, I know most maybe are where I live--. But again, many live with pain they don't talk about. I bet very few people can 'see' how difficult some things are for you.

I'm still avoidant and fearful. I vacillate daily. Now here's the advice: I have to keep pushing. Just a little. And work on my behavior. I'm not even suggesting you go out and behave as if you aren't terrified. Just remember to keep going out and hold onto your desire for connection. That's healthy. Wanting to ne with people is healthy. Then, with the proper medication, (and do you ever try
therapy of some sort), just small victories.

So neurontin is a bust? Did you make any decisions about lyrica?

Please know I write what I do to try to help, not to lecture or assume I know anything more than my own experience. I'm glad you seem to be posting more frequently.

fb

 

Re: Yes , Im waiting for a MED to cure me . Thats all » tepi

Posted by Phillipa on May 8, 2011, at 20:44:53

In reply to Re: Yes , Im waiting for a MED to cure me . Thats all » SLS, posted by tepi on May 8, 2011, at 11:13:26

Tepi weren't you doing better on the nardil? And then you could not obtain it so discontinued? Love Phillipa

 

Re: Yes , Im waiting for a MED to cure me . Thats all » sigismund

Posted by tepi on May 11, 2011, at 2:02:53

In reply to Re: Yes , Im waiting for a MED to cure me . Thats all, posted by sigismund on May 8, 2011, at 13:11:09

> The point is academic anyway, given the treatments available. You have tried Nardil, Tep, and went off it because you felt frightened rather than depressed and it wasn't helping much. (Is that right?)
>

Yes , I was receiving some relief but I still feel like I was dead . Not emotions on me..

> I know you have felt frightened for a very long time.
> How do you feel now, compared to before you started benzos?
> I wonder if they give you short term relief and in the long term make you worse?
>

Maybe a fake little relief that Im used to....

> That's not much hope is it?
> To give up the only thing that makes life almost bearable to see if things improve?
>
> I once walked into a bar and stood there and waited to be served. As things got worse and worse, I pretended that things were OK as best as I could. Then I pretended I had to leave. Maybe I stood there 10 minutes?
>
> Young people hold themselves to such ridiculous standards. If they could see themselves as older people see them they would cheer up immediately....so young, so healthy, so good looking.

I love your posts sigsi. You seem like a real good caring person

Tepi

 

Re: Yes , Im waiting for a MED to cure me . Thats all » floatingbridge

Posted by tepi on May 11, 2011, at 2:17:33

In reply to Re: Yes , Im waiting for a MED to cure me . Thats all » tepi, posted by floatingbridge on May 8, 2011, at 16:50:31

> Tepi, I am so sorry. I agree with the comment that people suggest anything to a distressed person to try and be helpful. Expressing care is difficult. In my own life, someone who loves me very much is angry at me being ill and also having the psychological issues I do. She alternates between being alright to becoming verbally abusive. She firmly thinks if I withdraw from one particular medication (that I take a silly small amount of) I will suddenly be full of love of life and be a zippy, fun-loving person. It truly is absurd. I've been through this with her so many times, it isn't as hurtful as it used to be. But it still hurts!
>
> You do need a med to help you. I understand. May I say in my experience, (many decades), that pain and fear run grooves into my brain, body, thoughts, and behavior that adds only adds to the load I already started with.
>
> I am glad you get out Tepi. That's great right there. And that you can feel some happiness for other's happiness is brilliant. Do you know how wonderful that is, and how much strength you already have?
>
>
>
>
> I don't have it near as deep as you. Yet I feel, especially in the past like a spiritual orphan. It's so lonely sometimes. I have said to myself what I think you have said, something like not having a place on this earth. It's a terrible feeling. I think I look o k. on the outside. But few know how terrible it can feel. Isn't that how it is for many people. I have spent years in a
> prison of envy, thinking 'everyone' else is 'o.k.' Well, I know most maybe are where I live--. But again, many live with pain they don't talk about. I bet very few people can 'see' how difficult some things are for you.
>
> I'm still avoidant and fearful. I vacillate daily. Now here's the advice: I have to keep pushing. Just a little. And work on my behavior. I'm not even suggesting you go out and behave as if you aren't terrified. Just remember to keep going out and hold onto your desire for connection. That's healthy. Wanting to ne with people is healthy. Then, with the proper medication, (and do you ever try
> therapy of some sort), just small victories.
>
> So neurontin is a bust? Did you make any decisions about lyrica?
>
> Please know I write what I do to try to help, not to lecture or assume I know anything more than my own experience. I'm glad you seem to be posting more frequently.
>
> fb
>

Thank you for your words floating... Its hard to believe for me that there is more people out there suffering the same things than me.. My ego its alway telling Im alone in this world and leads me to believe 100% that there is no one outhere with this disease but me...

 

Re: Yes , Im waiting for a MED to cure me . Thats all » Phillipa

Posted by tepi on May 11, 2011, at 2:19:10

In reply to Re: Yes , Im waiting for a MED to cure me . Thats all » tepi, posted by Phillipa on May 8, 2011, at 20:44:53

> Tepi weren't you doing better on the nardil? And then you could not obtain it so discontinued? Love Phillipa

No no phillipa , I was receining the same relief no matter the dose .. then I ran out of it and I didnt feel depressed so I keep living without meds... then Im looking for other options..

 

Re: Yes , Im waiting for a MED to cure me . Thats all » tepi

Posted by Phillipa on May 11, 2011, at 19:29:30

In reply to Re: Yes , Im waiting for a MED to cure me . Thats all » Phillipa, posted by tepi on May 11, 2011, at 2:19:10

Tepi would you consider this a relapse? When you were involved in your relationship were you also on meds. I've forgotten. Love Phillipa


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