Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 971022

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So scared to stop my adderall and start vivactil!

Posted by Cydnie on November 22, 2010, at 17:42:35

Has anyone recently had any success with vivactil? I am absolutely terrified to stop using the one thing that has taken me out of my despair lately (adderall) to start something that may or may not work (vivactil). He says I cannot take them together even at small doses. He was adamant for me to try lamictal, and I had the worst side effect this weekend which almost landed me in the hospital (my instinct was to not take it, but I never trust that!) I was down for two days in bed, hysterically crying, but so sick with extreme dizziness, chills, tachycardia, and suicidal ideation (so unlike me to consider that). I'm still trying to get rid of the dizziness today though I didn't take it, and tomorrow have to take care of my baby alone on my new regimen of no adderall and this new small dose of vivictal. So scared because the only thing that's gotten me through my days was adderall, but the vivactil won't crash I guess, and no ssris, snris, anything I've tried has helped for the rest of the day (when the adderall wears off). Am I making a mistake? Has anyone had any success? I'm so scared. I know I'm not alone in that. God, I wish depression would be outlawed :) Tried to make an appointment with a new doc who is progressive and he told me his 1st consult is $625. This is nuts, I wish someone could help us! I wish there was a psychiatrist's list on this site for progressive thinking docs who don't cost half a year's salary. I'm venting. My husband's taking care of the baby and sick of dealing with me, and in a fit of rage this weekend told me I "suck" because I can't help because of all of this. He was just mad, but it sent me whirlwind into a worse depression. God, I freaking hate this! I'm so desperate, so alone.

 

Re: So scared to stop my adderall and start vivactil! » Cydnie

Posted by Phillipa on November 22, 2010, at 18:44:03

In reply to So scared to stop my adderall and start vivactil!, posted by Cydnie on November 22, 2010, at 17:42:35

Hi Cyndie hear your dispair and frustration. So you went off the lamictal cause of bad side effects? Was this a new med for you? I have a friend on vivactal that likes it a lot so may be worth trying since long acting. Why do you say low dose of vivactal? Phillipa

 

Re: So scared to stop my adderall and start vivactil!

Posted by morgan miller on November 22, 2010, at 21:08:37

In reply to So scared to stop my adderall and start vivactil!, posted by Cydnie on November 22, 2010, at 17:42:35

First of all, your husband is not being supportive, he needs a lesson in patience and love. I'm guessing he has some of his own issues so this makes it even harder for him to deal with yours. Saying you suck is simply juvenile, how old is this dude?

Secondly, I am sure you can find a more open minded psychiatrist that takes your insurance, you just have to keep looking. In the meantime, stick with your old one. It looks like vivactil may be a good replacement for adderall. It has a VERY long half life, hopefully this means one time daily dosing and no daily come down or withdrawal. I'm confused, is your old p doc prescribing the Vivactil? I say just take it and stop Adderall.

Do you have a good therapist? If not, I would try to find one ASAP.

To me it sounds like you need to just treat the derpession first and foremost, screw the ADD. You may not even really have ADD, it could very well be a symptom of your anxiety and depression. So treat the anxiety and depression with an effective antidepressant, maybe take fish oil, start eating well if you are not already, and definitely find time to exercise for 20 minutes 4 to 5 days a week. If you husband is really good to you, he will make it possible for you to find time to exercise.

It just sounds like your in a bad place and a very confusing bad place at that. Hopefully you can get some good advice and guidance from whomever with regard to medication treatment.

Can you list all of the antidepressant you've tried and briefly rate their effectiveness and describe side effects and why you stopped? This may help us help you find some potential AD's. You could even find yourself going back to one you've already tried. I know I keep saying this but I think it is important, if you get 70 percent relief with minimal side effects, this would be considered a huge success. With this, you should be strong enough to do what is necessary to both get more relief and improve the chances of keeping major depression at bay for a long time. I really think proper exercise, proper diet, some supplements, positive relationships, and therapy are those things that are necessary for long term success and extra relief from symptoms.

Sorry your are going through such a tough time. Hang in there.

Morgan

 

Re: So scared to stop my adderall and start vivactil!

Posted by Phillipa on November 22, 2010, at 21:37:10

In reply to Re: So scared to stop my adderall and start vivactil!, posted by morgan miller on November 22, 2010, at 21:08:37

Cyndie Morgan has very valid points. Phillipa

 

Re: So scared to stop my adderall and start vivactil!

Posted by Cydnie on November 23, 2010, at 9:56:05

In reply to Re: So scared to stop my adderall and start vivactil!, posted by Phillipa on November 22, 2010, at 21:37:10

Thank you both so much. For the first time ever I think, last night I was so scared that I wouldn't make it through. I told my husband I just wanted to end the pain, not die, but just stop hurting. I've been in chronic pain for so long, and have dealt with so so so many nasty doctors and nurses, I've become more sensitive to it instead of less, more of a doormat, and that makes that kind of person treat you even worse. I am in too much of a hole to get angry, I am too depressed and it scares me. I even told me husband yes, he could bring me to the hospital because I was saying my baby wouldn't even remember me, everyone would be fine eventually, and my husband was so scared. I then decided to just go to bed, and he called my mom who never never never comes over to see me or my baby, and I don't know what the heck he told her, but she came over last night while I was sleeping. I have to go to a doctor's appt in a few minutes, and expect I will cry alot because I can't seem to stop, and my husband is going with me (He has his awful moments, and his great! I guess like all of us, but I know I need counseling when I can't think of one great or even good thing I've done). I feel like, am I being punished, is that why life is so hard? Does anyone else ever feel like that? I think my parents would probably think so (they are very religious, my husband is jewish and told me they are like orthodox jews) and wonder maybe a lot of the guilt I am feeling is coming from that. Oh, I'm late. Sorry. Thanks for writing!!

 

Re: So scared to stop my adderall and start vivactil!

Posted by ed_uk2010 on November 23, 2010, at 15:42:12

In reply to So scared to stop my adderall and start vivactil!, posted by Cydnie on November 22, 2010, at 17:42:35

>His 1st consult is $625.

HOW MUCH? Does that include brain surgery or something?

 

Re: So scared to stop my adderall and start vivactil!

Posted by Cydnie on November 23, 2010, at 18:40:02

In reply to Re: So scared to stop my adderall and start vivactil!, posted by ed_uk2010 on November 23, 2010, at 15:42:12

Believe it or not, that was the least expensive of one of the "specialists" I tried to see (the other was an astounding $1500 for consult) - I found them through someone I know, very nice, but doubt he knows how much they charge. One works at McLean hospital, I guess that reputation helps some of them find patients.

 

Re: So scared to stop my adderall and start vivactil!

Posted by emmanuel98 on November 23, 2010, at 19:37:55

In reply to Re: So scared to stop my adderall and start vivactil!, posted by Cydnie on November 23, 2010, at 18:40:02

I saw a consultant who charged $375 and didn't take insurance. A lot, but it turned out to be worth it. I went to McLean and they implemented his recommendations and I got better. If you're involved with McLean, you must be in MA/NH. If you want this guy's name, it's Carl Salzman and he is associated with Mass Mental and Beth Israel Deaconess hospitals. He has an office in Boston and in Brookline, MA.

 

Re: So scared to stop my adderall and start vivactil! » Cydnie

Posted by ed_uk2010 on November 25, 2010, at 15:43:32

In reply to Re: So scared to stop my adderall and start vivactil!, posted by Cydnie on November 23, 2010, at 18:40:02

> Believe it or not, that was the least expensive of one of the "specialists" I tried to see (the other was an astounding $1500 for consult) - I found them through someone I know, very nice, but doubt he knows how much they charge. One works at McLean hospital, I guess that reputation helps some of them find patients.

Most people here see NHS doctors and pay nothing. If you do choose to see a doctor privately, it can cost anything from £50 upwards. It would never be as expensive as what you paid.


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