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Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences Alexanderfromdenmark

Posted by Sigismund on August 18, 2009, at 17:50:56

In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 18, 2009, at 7:42:32

>Does Agomelatine help anhedonia?

I dunno.

There are drugs that can create a feeling of pleasure (all of them of course illegal), though they do not actually help with anhedonia once they are gone.

It might.

Afobazol is good, as good for that as agomelatine.

Available OTC in Russia.

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences

Posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 19, 2009, at 2:57:54

In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences Alexanderfromdenmark, posted by Sigismund on August 18, 2009, at 17:50:56

> >Does Agomelatine help anhedonia?
>
> I dunno.
>
> There are drugs that can create a feeling of pleasure (all of them of course illegal), though they do not actually help with anhedonia once they are gone.
>
> It might.
>
> Afobazol is good, as good for that as agomelatine.
>
> Available OTC in Russia.

Yes, I don't live in Russia though...

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences

Posted by Sigismund on August 19, 2009, at 17:50:35

In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 19, 2009, at 2:57:54

>Yes, I don't live in Russia though.

You live a lot closer to it than I do.

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences

Posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 20, 2009, at 10:23:36

In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by Sigismund on August 19, 2009, at 17:50:35

> >Yes, I don't live in Russia though.
>
> You live a lot closer to it than I do.

Yes, maybe I'll go on a hike to Moscow tomorrow. The sun should be out. Gotta watch out for the bears though.

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences

Posted by Sigismund on August 20, 2009, at 16:32:30

In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 20, 2009, at 10:23:36

I get it from Poland, actually. You could just stop there.

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences

Posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 20, 2009, at 16:59:10

In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by Sigismund on August 20, 2009, at 16:32:30

Oh god no, Poland is full of pale famished jews.. I rather wrestle a bear with my shoes tied together.

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences

Posted by Sigismund on August 20, 2009, at 21:03:01

In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 20, 2009, at 16:59:10

>Poland is full of pale famished jews.

Not any more. Anyway, I'd like to see Krakow and the Carpathians.

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences

Posted by Bob12 on August 23, 2009, at 9:58:44

In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 20, 2009, at 16:59:10

> Oh god no, Poland is full of pale famished jews.. I rather wrestle a bear with my shoes tied together.


Kindly do not post offensive, uneducated, and anti-semetic posts here.

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences (nm) morganator

Posted by blynth on August 24, 2009, at 3:51:34

In reply to Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by morganator on August 15, 2009, at 18:21:01

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences morganator

Posted by blynth on August 24, 2009, at 3:53:19

In reply to Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by morganator on August 15, 2009, at 18:21:01

I combined 12.5 of agomelatine with 75 of venlafaxine (SNRI). Within 2 days I was hypomanic, and I have never had any hypomania ever before with any drug or combination. I had not been diagnosed bipolar. I have now gone off venlafaxine and am starting agomelatine on its own with a mood stabiliser. Just thought you should be aware of that before combining...

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences blynth

Posted by SLS on August 24, 2009, at 5:30:23

In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences morganator, posted by blynth on August 24, 2009, at 3:53:19

> I combined 12.5 of agomelatine with 75 of venlafaxine (SNRI). Within 2 days I was hypomanic, and I have never had any hypomania ever before with any drug or combination. I had not been diagnosed bipolar. I have now gone off venlafaxine and am starting agomelatine on its own with a mood stabiliser. Just thought you should be aware of that before combining...

Thanks for the idea!!!

Anything that is capable of making me manic is a blessing. I have been so areactive to previous treatments, that my doctors would be happy if I were to become manic because it is very easily controlled in me with Depakote. So, the thinking is that such a strategy would leave me euthymic.


- Scott

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences Alexanderfromdenmark

Posted by SLS on August 24, 2009, at 5:37:51

In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 20, 2009, at 16:59:10

> Oh god no, Poland is full of pale famished jews.. I rather wrestle a bear with my shoes tied together.

After reading this, I might be disinclined to interact with you. My grandparents were Polish, pale, famished Jews.

Is there anything you would like to add to your comments?

Would you prefer that I not offer you feedback in the future? I am still willing.


- Scott

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences

Posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 24, 2009, at 7:17:33

In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences Alexanderfromdenmark, posted by SLS on August 24, 2009, at 5:37:51

> > Oh god no, Poland is full of pale famished jews.. I rather wrestle a bear with my shoes tied together.
>
> After reading this, I might be disinclined to interact with you. My grandparents were Polish, pale, famished Jews.
>
> Is there anything you would like to add to your comments?
>
> Would you prefer that I not offer you feedback in the future? I am still willing.
>
>
> - Scott

Oh god it really is difficult to crack a joke on the internet without offending someone.

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences

Posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 24, 2009, at 7:19:08

In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by Sigismund on August 20, 2009, at 21:03:01

> >Poland is full of pale famished jews.
>
> Not any more. Anyway, I'd like to see Krakow and the Carpathians.

I thought the Carpathians were extinct.
Maybe i'm thinking about something else. I thought they were like the knights templar or something.

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences Alexanderfromdenmark

Posted by SLS on August 24, 2009, at 7:31:59

In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 24, 2009, at 7:17:33

> > > Oh god no, Poland is full of pale famished jews.. I rather wrestle a bear with my shoes tied together.

> > After reading this, I might be disinclined to interact with you. My grandparents were Polish, pale, famished Jews.
> >
> > Is there anything you would like to add to your comments?
> >
> > Would you prefer that I not offer you feedback in the future? I am still willing.

> Oh god it really is difficult to crack a joke on the internet without offending someone.


Sorry, but I don't buy it.


- Scott

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences

Posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 24, 2009, at 11:09:41

In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences Alexanderfromdenmark, posted by SLS on August 24, 2009, at 7:31:59

> > > > Oh god no, Poland is full of pale famished jews.. I rather wrestle a bear with my shoes tied together.
>
> > > After reading this, I might be disinclined to interact with you. My grandparents were Polish, pale, famished Jews.
> > >
> > > Is there anything you would like to add to your comments?
> > >
> > > Would you prefer that I not offer you feedback in the future? I am still willing.
>
> > Oh god it really is difficult to crack a joke on the internet without offending someone.
>
>
> Sorry, but I don't buy it.
>
>
> - Scott

You think I'm a jew hater?

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences Alexanderfromdenmark

Posted by clipper40 on August 24, 2009, at 15:29:22

In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 24, 2009, at 11:09:41

It sure sounded like it to me. You may have intended it to be a joke, but some things just aren't funny.

(BTW, my grandparents were Polish Jews who got out of Poland just in time.)

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences

Posted by SLS on August 24, 2009, at 15:42:13

In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 24, 2009, at 11:09:41

> > > > > Oh god no, Poland is full of pale famished jews.. I rather wrestle a bear with my shoes tied together.


> > > > After reading this, I might be disinclined to interact with you. My grandparents were Polish, pale, famished Jews.
> > > >
> > > > Is there anything you would like to add to your comments?
> > > >
> > > > Would you prefer that I not offer you feedback in the future? I am still willing.


> > > Oh god it really is difficult to crack a joke on the internet without offending someone.


> > Sorry, but I don't buy it.


> You think I'm a jew hater?


I cannot know what is in your mind or in your heart.

I doubt it would be productive for us to discuss this any more.


- Scott

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences

Posted by Sigismund on August 24, 2009, at 16:26:00

In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences Alexanderfromdenmark, posted by clipper40 on August 24, 2009, at 15:29:22

I feel like my digressions have kicked this off. The view east from Western Europe may be a little different to the view from New York. Denmark was the only European country to save its Jewish population. The Carpathians will not become extinct any time soon.

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences

Posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 25, 2009, at 9:01:08

In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by SLS on August 24, 2009, at 15:42:13

I agree

Peace out

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences

Posted by ellec on August 25, 2009, at 11:29:23

In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 25, 2009, at 9:01:08

Just started Valdoxan last night. Slept fairly well, woke up a few times but went back to sleep easily. I just stopped my Lexapro dose which I brought down to 5 mg yesterday as well.
During the day I had experienced almost no side effects. A very pleasant surprise after so many hideous side effects with SSRI's or SSNI's.
I will update as I go.

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences ellec

Posted by morganator on August 25, 2009, at 22:33:22

In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by ellec on August 25, 2009, at 11:29:23

Are you on anything else? I would love to hear how things are going for you in the next 3 or 4 weeks.

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences/Liver Enzymes

Posted by CaptainAmerica1967 on August 30, 2009, at 12:47:05

In reply to Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by morganator on August 15, 2009, at 18:21:01

I'm going to try agomelatine (added to my Parnate for severe treatment/refractory depression I've had for approx 30 years) in several weeks as I plan to order Valdoxan from Canada. I wouldn't mind ordering the less expensive agomelatine from Ukranian-Russian pharmacies but not sure if I'd get the real thing.

Just wondering about individuals experiences regarding liver enzyme tests; has everyone been getting a baseline test; any adverse elevations after a second liver test?

I'm a strong believer that many of us with various forms of depression have some type of overative brain, sleep malfunction and that's why so many respond at least partially to sleep deprivation.

It's time for new innovative drugs for depression. If all the available ones out there were the key to successful treatment for everyone, then all of us wouldn't be on psychobabble trying to figure out what to try next or why the current therapy hasn't produced complete remission.

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences

Posted by FredPotter on September 2, 2009, at 20:48:20

In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences blynth, posted by SLS on August 24, 2009, at 5:30:23

I agree Scott. Don't let them medicalise happiness I say! I was happier than most people a lot of the time I was on Nardil I think and I adored being around people. I stopped because of weight gain and sexual malfunction. I thought I'd try Parnate instead. After 6 weeks up to 50mg/day and 50-75mg Nortriptyline in the evening, I may be responding regards depression. But It now has been replaced by panic attacks (non-respiratory sub-type) for which I take 2mg Xanax as needed. This really works for me and fast. The trouble is my Dr has put an upper daily limit of 4.5mg/day so I'll run out. Something else to worry about
Fred

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences

Posted by Rob N. on September 20, 2009, at 19:55:19

In reply to Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by morganator on August 15, 2009, at 18:21:01

> Anyone want to chyme in on their recent experiences with Agomelatine?
>
> I would also like to know if anyone is taking Agomelatine with another antidepressant, especially an SSRI like Zoloft.

I've been taking it for a week - IMHO it's great - was on Wellbutrin XL 300. I'm getting complete nights of sleep - and this nifty new feeling of 'centered inner peace and .... okayness' ?!


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