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Posted by Iansf on June 24, 2009, at 17:12:56
Posted by chumbawumba on June 25, 2009, at 18:24:20
In reply to Cabergoline and sex, posted by Iansf on June 24, 2009, at 17:12:56
Hmmm sounds good to me. That multiple orgasm stuff that women can do always made me jealous. Maybe now I can have multiple orgasms. I wonder what happens though when you run out of semen though, do you ejaculate dust?
Posted by atmlady on June 26, 2009, at 8:41:12
In reply to Cabergoline and sex, posted by Iansf on June 24, 2009, at 17:12:56
I actually bought a couple of these pills online a year or so ago, when I was looking for something to alleviate SSRI anorgasmia. But I've been too afraid to take any, what with all the warnings.
Has anyone actually used this with success? Any women? I am on 10 mg Lexapro and 300 Mg Wellbutrin. Have tried Viagra, which certainly had some pleasant effects, but no help in the orgasm department.
Posted by sukarno on June 26, 2009, at 12:30:52
In reply to Re: Cabergoline and sex - anyone actually tried?, posted by atmlady on June 26, 2009, at 8:41:12
I wouldn't take cabergoline because it is an ergot derivative. Those can cause fibrosis in the lungs and heart if I'm not mistaken.
If you need help in the sexual department I would go for a different dopamine agonist such as ropinirole (Requip) or pramipexole (Mirapex). I read about a doctor that had good results with Requip in his patients who suffered sexual dysfunction on SSRIs.
I suspect though that you could experience "poop out" on dopamine agonists as some people on psychobabble have taken them for depression and at first they worked very well, but within a month or two....poop out.
Good luck though. :-)
Posted by bulldog2 on June 26, 2009, at 17:48:15
In reply to Re: Cabergoline and sex - anyone actually tried?, posted by atmlady on June 26, 2009, at 8:41:12
> I actually bought a couple of these pills online a year or so ago, when I was looking for something to alleviate SSRI anorgasmia. But I've been too afraid to take any, what with all the warnings.
>
> Has anyone actually used this with success? Any women? I am on 10 mg Lexapro and 300 Mg Wellbutrin. Have tried Viagra, which certainly had some pleasant effects, but no help in the orgasm department.You used to take Ixel? What happened? I wanted take carb with all the warnings. Wellbutrin does not work that well to stmulate libido. Look through the archives there's a whole section on how to raise libido.
Posted by atmlady on June 26, 2009, at 20:43:52
In reply to Re: Cabergoline and sex - anyone actually tried?, posted by bulldog2 on June 26, 2009, at 17:48:15
Yes, I was taking Ixel this time last year, and it was good for a while. No large increase in appetite and could still orgasm, though it did take about double the time it would usually take. I slept well and the cold, achyness in my joints (no arthritis, just an old runner) disappeared - I can see why it would be good for fibro.
As it got closer to August I became quite anxious about starting law school. I was afraid the Ixel wasn't working well enough. I wanted to get away from serotonin re-uptake. I thought it would be better to approach from an ADD standpoint. I decided to switch to strattera and provigil. I had heard strattera could cause depression but ignored it. I found a doctor who would prescribe me what I wanted.
After a couple months in law school I became VERY depressed. Crying every day. It was hard to tell, though. All of the students were stressed out and depressed. I put it all off on school, instead of the med change. I had so much invested in "my" diagnosis, I wasn't about to say I was wrong. Heck no. I must say, the strattera really helped with attention, though it did make me quite sleepy. Oh yeah, and freaking depressed as hell.
So after exams in December, I said screw this, I'm not taking meds anymore at all. Everything was fine, sort of, I wasn't crying every day, but I was very fidgety in class. Then moot court began. You have to make an argument in front of the "supreme court" (really just upper classmen). The argument they want you to make is riddled with holes on purpose, so they can interrupt you and ask you a bunch of questions you can't possibly answer intelligently. I was SO nervous, but so was everyone else. You could hear a little tremor in every student's voice, not just mine. But that sick nervous feeling never went away. Weeks after the competition I was still a wreck, became so nervous and paranoid I couldn't talk in class anymore, was terrified of being called on. This was not a problem first semester.
It was then I knew I really NEEDED the serotonin re-uptake, not just to feel good, but to live my life as a normal person. I started back up with the Ixel on the last day of classes, and by exam time felt so much better. Just not good enough.
The lexapro that has been sitting in my cabinet for three years was singing a siren's song to me. Lexapro rings my bell, makes everything better. I wouldn't take it because of the weight gain and the anorgasmia. Spent 3 years of my life trying to find a way around it, find some magic combo that would make me feel like lexapro does, but without the side effects. So far, no luck.
So after exams, first part of June, went back to the pdoc and got the lexapro, and wellbutrin in the hopes it would help with the anorgasmia. It hasn't, but the pdoc says give it time. OK, so I'm giving it time, this time. I have not been happy in SO LONG. Just faking it and feeling like everyone else in the world was happy and I'm just pretending.
Just as I thought, the lexapro has helped tremendously already. I'm starting to feel like a normal human being again. I wish it didn't have these side effects, then again, I suppose I'm lucky to have found something that works so well, that doesn't cause me to bleed from my eyeballs or worse.
Still, I know me. I'll be feeling better and I'll think Oh, I don't need this anymore, I want to have orgasms again. I'll switch to back to Ixel, maybe. It really is a good med, it just doesn't get me to where I want to be mood-wise. It lifts, just not high enough for me. Though here's something interesting: Ixel and Lexapro are made by the same people so I read.
So there's my long boring story, why I haven't posted in so long. Busy with school, but more just too depressed and overwhelmed to write.
Heather
Posted by bulldog2 on June 27, 2009, at 17:50:49
In reply to Re: Cabergoline and sex - anyone actually tried?, posted by atmlady on June 26, 2009, at 20:43:52
> Yes, I was taking Ixel this time last year, and it was good for a while. No large increase in appetite and could still orgasm, though it did take about double the time it would usually take. I slept well and the cold, achyness in my joints (no arthritis, just an old runner) disappeared - I can see why it would be good for fibro.
>
> As it got closer to August I became quite anxious about starting law school. I was afraid the Ixel wasn't working well enough. I wanted to get away from serotonin re-uptake. I thought it would be better to approach from an ADD standpoint. I decided to switch to strattera and provigil. I had heard strattera could cause depression but ignored it. I found a doctor who would prescribe me what I wanted.
>
> After a couple months in law school I became VERY depressed. Crying every day. It was hard to tell, though. All of the students were stressed out and depressed. I put it all off on school, instead of the med change. I had so much invested in "my" diagnosis, I wasn't about to say I was wrong. Heck no. I must say, the strattera really helped with attention, though it did make me quite sleepy. Oh yeah, and freaking depressed as hell.
>
> So after exams in December, I said screw this, I'm not taking meds anymore at all. Everything was fine, sort of, I wasn't crying every day, but I was very fidgety in class. Then moot court began. You have to make an argument in front of the "supreme court" (really just upper classmen). The argument they want you to make is riddled with holes on purpose, so they can interrupt you and ask you a bunch of questions you can't possibly answer intelligently. I was SO nervous, but so was everyone else. You could hear a little tremor in every student's voice, not just mine. But that sick nervous feeling never went away. Weeks after the competition I was still a wreck, became so nervous and paranoid I couldn't talk in class anymore, was terrified of being called on. This was not a problem first semester.
>
> It was then I knew I really NEEDED the serotonin re-uptake, not just to feel good, but to live my life as a normal person. I started back up with the Ixel on the last day of classes, and by exam time felt so much better. Just not good enough.
>
> The lexapro that has been sitting in my cabinet for three years was singing a siren's song to me. Lexapro rings my bell, makes everything better. I wouldn't take it because of the weight gain and the anorgasmia. Spent 3 years of my life trying to find a way around it, find some magic combo that would make me feel like lexapro does, but without the side effects. So far, no luck.
>
> So after exams, first part of June, went back to the pdoc and got the lexapro, and wellbutrin in the hopes it would help with the anorgasmia. It hasn't, but the pdoc says give it time. OK, so I'm giving it time, this time. I have not been happy in SO LONG. Just faking it and feeling like everyone else in the world was happy and I'm just pretending.
>
> Just as I thought, the lexapro has helped tremendously already. I'm starting to feel like a normal human being again. I wish it didn't have these side effects, then again, I suppose I'm lucky to have found something that works so well, that doesn't cause me to bleed from my eyeballs or worse.
>
> Still, I know me. I'll be feeling better and I'll think Oh, I don't need this anymore, I want to have orgasms again. I'll switch to back to Ixel, maybe. It really is a good med, it just doesn't get me to where I want to be mood-wise. It lifts, just not high enough for me. Though here's something interesting: Ixel and Lexapro are made by the same people so I read.
>
> So there's my long boring story, why I haven't posted in so long. Busy with school, but more just too depressed and overwhelmed to write.
>
> HeatherHeather such a pretty name. Thanks for you informative post. That is often the delimna we face. The one that works makes us lose something we value. I took parnate for a while and it had no side effects sexually but it also didn't do the trick. Took me out of depression but it did not brighten the mood and make me happy. I will try and find that info in the archives about anidotes for the ssro sex problems.
Posted by bulldog2 on June 27, 2009, at 18:07:27
In reply to Re: Cabergoline and sex - anyone actually tried?, posted by atmlady on June 26, 2009, at 20:43:52
> Yes, I was taking Ixel this time last year, and it was good for a while. No large increase in appetite and could still orgasm, though it did take about double the time it would usually take. I slept well and the cold, achyness in my joints (no arthritis, just an old runner) disappeared - I can see why it would be good for fibro.
>
> As it got closer to August I became quite anxious about starting law school. I was afraid the Ixel wasn't working well enough. I wanted to get away from serotonin re-uptake. I thought it would be better to approach from an ADD standpoint. I decided to switch to strattera and provigil. I had heard strattera could cause depression but ignored it. I found a doctor who would prescribe me what I wanted.
>
> After a couple months in law school I became VERY depressed. Crying every day. It was hard to tell, though. All of the students were stressed out and depressed. I put it all off on school, instead of the med change. I had so much invested in "my" diagnosis, I wasn't about to say I was wrong. Heck no. I must say, the strattera really helped with attention, though it did make me quite sleepy. Oh yeah, and freaking depressed as hell.
>
> So after exams in December, I said screw this, I'm not taking meds anymore at all. Everything was fine, sort of, I wasn't crying every day, but I was very fidgety in class. Then moot court began. You have to make an argument in front of the "supreme court" (really just upper classmen). The argument they want you to make is riddled with holes on purpose, so they can interrupt you and ask you a bunch of questions you can't possibly answer intelligently. I was SO nervous, but so was everyone else. You could hear a little tremor in every student's voice, not just mine. But that sick nervous feeling never went away. Weeks after the competition I was still a wreck, became so nervous and paranoid I couldn't talk in class anymore, was terrified of being called on. This was not a problem first semester.
>
> It was then I knew I really NEEDED the serotonin re-uptake, not just to feel good, but to live my life as a normal person. I started back up with the Ixel on the last day of classes, and by exam time felt so much better. Just not good enough.
>
> The lexapro that has been sitting in my cabinet for three years was singing a siren's song to me. Lexapro rings my bell, makes everything better. I wouldn't take it because of the weight gain and the anorgasmia. Spent 3 years of my life trying to find a way around it, find some magic combo that would make me feel like lexapro does, but without the side effects. So far, no luck.
>
> So after exams, first part of June, went back to the pdoc and got the lexapro, and wellbutrin in the hopes it would help with the anorgasmia. It hasn't, but the pdoc says give it time. OK, so I'm giving it time, this time. I have not been happy in SO LONG. Just faking it and feeling like everyone else in the world was happy and I'm just pretending.
>
> Just as I thought, the lexapro has helped tremendously already. I'm starting to feel like a normal human being again. I wish it didn't have these side effects, then again, I suppose I'm lucky to have found something that works so well, that doesn't cause me to bleed from my eyeballs or worse.
>
> Still, I know me. I'll be feeling better and I'll think Oh, I don't need this anymore, I want to have orgasms again. I'll switch to back to Ixel, maybe. It really is a good med, it just doesn't get me to where I want to be mood-wise. It lifts, just not high enough for me. Though here's something interesting: Ixel and Lexapro are made by the same people so I read.
>
> So there's my long boring story, why I haven't posted in so long. Busy with school, but more just too depressed and overwhelmed to write.
>
> HeatherCan't find the archive discussion right now but I remember a few possible solutions for ssri sexual issues.
1. ginkgo biloba certified extract sometimes works. Possibly has some dopamine activity.
2. supplement with ritalin
3. wellbutrin usually doesn't work.
4. Buspar. I read about this in another book. A p-doc has a very high rate of nullifying ssri sex problems with buspar. It may block some serotonin receptors that ssri stimulate and cause sexual issues.
Posted by Elanor Roosevelt on July 3, 2009, at 1:05:21
In reply to Re: Cabergoline and sex - anyone actually tried?, posted by bulldog2 on June 27, 2009, at 18:07:27
Posted by atmlady on July 3, 2009, at 8:24:00
In reply to Re: Cabergoline and sex - anyone actually tried?, posted by bulldog2 on June 27, 2009, at 18:07:27
Thanks, bulldog! I've tried the ginko with no luck, and asked my new pdoc about buspar last time I was in. He said he'd heard the rumors but that most of his patients said it didn't do a thing for them. Next time I go in, I'm gonna ask about other options and I'll report back what he says. I would be shocked if he prescribed me ritalin, but you never know. My last pdoc was a woman, and she absolutely wouldn't. I wonder if my new male pdoc will be more sympathetic to my issue. Guys maybe understand that this side effect is more than just a nuisance....
Posted by sukarno on July 3, 2009, at 11:12:10
In reply to Re: Cabergoline and sex - anyone actually tried?, posted by atmlady on July 3, 2009, at 8:24:00
I wonder if SAM-e might work without causing sexual dysfunction. Has anyone here tried it? It is a bit expensive from what I've been told, but works as an antidepressant when taken regularly.
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