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Re: Radical New Treatment With Fast Success

Posted by ParnateStarted2008 on May 23, 2009, at 1:40:41

In reply to Radical New Treatment With Fast Success, posted by bulldog2 on May 22, 2009, at 18:08:12

I bet I would have the best time of my life on that. It would be a sure glimour of a anxiety free life.
My doctor would look at me like Im in a psychosis if I asked for that tho.
Knowing me, it would'nt last very long and Id crash hard when the fun is over.
What a crazy mix! odd

 

Re: Radical New Treatment With Fast Success

Posted by Neal on May 23, 2009, at 1:58:24

In reply to Radical New Treatment With Fast Success, posted by bulldog2 on May 22, 2009, at 18:08:12

The important thing would be; Does it work in the long run. Keep us posted regularly.

 

Re: Radical New Treatment With Fast Success » bulldog2

Posted by SLS on May 23, 2009, at 5:38:23

In reply to Radical New Treatment With Fast Success, posted by bulldog2 on May 22, 2009, at 18:08:12

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> I'm using this for anxiety, depression and add.
>
> 1.10 milligrams percodan every 6 hours
>
> 2.600 milligrams neurontin every 6 hours
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> 3. 20 milligrams ritalin every 6 hours.
>
> Has abolished my depression, anxiety and add from the first day. Good for my pain of fibromyalgia also. P-doc calls it the blitkrieg treatment.

I don't know how you came up with this treatment, but it is a brilliant attempt. I hope it continues to work.


- Scott

 

Re: Radical New Treatment With Fast Success

Posted by bulldog2 on May 23, 2009, at 8:41:53

In reply to Re: Radical New Treatment With Fast Success, posted by Phillipa on May 23, 2009, at 0:14:26

> Whose idea was this?????? Phillipa

Was the p-docs's idea as I don't really respond well to ad's. P-doc went to a seminar where they discussed this combo for treatment resistant people. There seems to be evidence that tr depressives (in some cases) may have a shortage of endogenous opiates.

What is nice about this combo is the way everything blends together. The neurontin takes the sharp edges off the ritalin and makes me more sociable. The ritalin is good for drive.

Back in the old days before the advent of our new and wonderful era of ads the opiates were used for treatment of depression.

Just d/c a trial of parnate. Told the p-doc no more ad's. The p-doc asked if I wanted to try something radically different. I said yes.

 

Re: Radical New Treatment With Fast Success

Posted by bulldog2 on May 23, 2009, at 8:49:30

In reply to Re: Radical New Treatment With Fast Success » bulldog2, posted by SLS on May 23, 2009, at 5:38:23

> >
> > I'm using this for anxiety, depression and add.
> >
> > 1.10 milligrams percodan every 6 hours
> >
> > 2.600 milligrams neurontin every 6 hours
> >
> > 3. 20 milligrams ritalin every 6 hours.
> >
> > Has abolished my depression, anxiety and add from the first day. Good for my pain of fibromyalgia also. P-doc calls it the blitkrieg treatment.
>
> I don't know how you came up with this treatment, but it is a brilliant attempt. I hope it continues to work.
>
>
> - Scott

The p-doc is thinking of throwing some memantine in this to prevent tolerance. memantine seems to work on both amphetamine and opiate tolerance.

 

Re: Radical New Treatment With Fast Success

Posted by chumbawumba on May 23, 2009, at 13:32:13

In reply to Radical New Treatment With Fast Success, posted by bulldog2 on May 22, 2009, at 18:08:12

Jesus, 80 mg of Ritalin a day. How do you sleep?

I guess the percodan helps with that though.

Seems pretty "outside the box".

 

Re: Radical New Treatment With Fast Success

Posted by bulldog2 on May 23, 2009, at 13:40:44

In reply to Re: Radical New Treatment With Fast Success, posted by chumbawumba on May 23, 2009, at 13:32:13

> Jesus, 80 mg of Ritalin a day. How do you sleep?
>
> I guess the percodan helps with that though.
>
> Seems pretty "outside the box".

The neurontin plus the percodan take care of sleep problems.

 

Re: Radical New Treatment With Fast Success » bulldog2

Posted by Phillipa on May 23, 2009, at 19:51:01

In reply to Re: Radical New Treatment With Fast Success, posted by bulldog2 on May 23, 2009, at 13:40:44

I know for me the opiods do work and not at a high dose kind of low like yours. What seriously happened with the parnate? Could you let me know please?????? Love Phillipa

 

Re: Radical New Treatment With Fast Success

Posted by bulldog2 on May 23, 2009, at 20:01:16

In reply to Re: Radical New Treatment With Fast Success » bulldog2, posted by Phillipa on May 23, 2009, at 19:51:01

> I know for me the opiods do work and not at a high dose kind of low like yours. What seriously happened with the parnate? Could you let me know please?????? Love Phillipa

pooped out at 60 mg..Didn't want to go higher so I stopped. Sides not really bad.

 

Re: Radical New Treatment With Fast Success

Posted by bulldog2 on May 23, 2009, at 20:01:55

In reply to Re: Radical New Treatment With Fast Success » bulldog2, posted by Phillipa on May 23, 2009, at 19:51:01

> I know for me the opiods do work and not at a high dose kind of low like yours. What seriously happened with the parnate? Could you let me know please?????? Love Phillipa

pooped out at 60 mg..Didn't want to go higher so I stopped. Sides not really bad.

 

Re: Radical New Treatment With Fast Success » bulldog2

Posted by Sigismund on May 23, 2009, at 20:14:22

In reply to Radical New Treatment With Fast Success, posted by bulldog2 on May 22, 2009, at 18:08:12

Oh yes, the drugs you can't get work like a charm.

 

Re: Radical New Treatment With Fast Success » bulldog2

Posted by Phillipa on May 23, 2009, at 21:23:50

In reply to Re: Radical New Treatment With Fast Success, posted by bulldog2 on May 23, 2009, at 20:01:55

There has to be a reason you chose not to go higher. What's the reason. Sounds not like poop out but dose not being high enough that early in treatment. Come on please let us in on all the facts. Opiods are awesome. Phillipa

 

Re: Radical New Treatment With Fast Success » bulldog2

Posted by Neal on May 24, 2009, at 18:38:37

In reply to Radical New Treatment With Fast Success, posted by bulldog2 on May 22, 2009, at 18:08:12

Bulldog,

Re: the Neurontin. Be careful with driving, etc. as Neurontin can cause a slightly uncoordinated or dizzy effect in some, especially if you take over the 600mg dose.

 

Re: Radical New Treatment With Fast Success

Posted by bulldog2 on May 25, 2009, at 10:05:16

In reply to Re: Radical New Treatment With Fast Success » bulldog2, posted by Phillipa on May 23, 2009, at 21:23:50

> There has to be a reason you chose not to go higher. What's the reason. Sounds not like poop out but dose not being high enough that early in treatment. Come on please let us in on all the facts. Opiods are awesome. Phillipa

Maybe you should consider asking your p-doc to drop your luvox and let you try percocet 5 mg every 5-6 hours. You also would be able to than drop your benzos as the percocet addresses anxiety.

 

Re: Radical New Treatment With Fast Success » bulldog2

Posted by Phillipa on May 25, 2009, at 20:00:42

In reply to Re: Radical New Treatment With Fast Success, posted by bulldog2 on May 25, 2009, at 10:05:16

Don't have a pdoc right now mine was in a car accident and in ICU and no idea if she will ever return to work. Thinking of quitting everything cold turkey see what happens as I really don't care anymore. It's my right. Phillipa

 

Re: Radical New Treatment With Fast Success

Posted by Neal on May 25, 2009, at 22:36:44

In reply to Re: Radical New Treatment With Fast Success » bulldog2, posted by Phillipa on May 25, 2009, at 20:00:42

> Don't have a pdoc right now mine was in a car accident and in ICU and no idea if she will ever return to work. Thinking of quitting everything cold turkey see what happens as I really don't care anymore. It's my right. Phillipa

Phillipa,

What's the matter . . ?

 

Re: Radical New Treatment With Fast Success

Posted by ParnateStarted2008 on May 26, 2009, at 8:41:45

In reply to Re: Radical New Treatment With Fast Success » bulldog2, posted by Phillipa on May 25, 2009, at 20:00:42

> Don't have a pdoc right now mine was in a car accident and in ICU and no idea if she will ever return to work. Thinking of quitting everything cold turkey see what happens as I really don't care anymore. It's my right. Phillipa

last time you quit luvox you ended in the ER.. Damn these meds can get frustrating hey.. your regular doctor should be of help since your pdoc is in ICU! Dont CT, even tapering off meds can have real crappy withdrawl especialy since you've been on them for a while....
hmmm.. well are luvox 50mg taperable? are they solid? or capsuls with little sphere's or powder?
If you do decide to go off please taper slowly. It took me forever chopping down 20mg paxil's, then 10mg paxils until I could handel the withdrawl.
I ran out of Nardil once and was in the ER within 3 days with brain zaps that would literally drop me to my knees.

 

Re: Radical New Treatment With Fast Success

Posted by bulldog2 on May 26, 2009, at 15:22:59

In reply to Re: Radical New Treatment With Fast Success » bulldog2, posted by Phillipa on May 25, 2009, at 20:00:42

> Don't have a pdoc right now mine was in a car accident and in ICU and no idea if she will ever return to work. Thinking of quitting everything cold turkey see what happens as I really don't care anymore. It's my right. Phillipa

Unfortunately after your years on an ssri you more than likely have disrupted your dopamine system which in turn has has played havoc with healthy opiod production. Healthy opiod production relies on a healthy dopamine neuroendicine susbsystem. Some symtoms of a subpar opiod system would be thyroid problems, anxiety issues, and chronic aches and pains. You need to use hormones and or medications to try and rebalance your dopamine system. The smallest patch of emsam might help with dopamine rebalancing. In spite of dopamine rebalancing your opiod system may be permanently injured thru ssri insult and you would require permanent opiate supplementation (low dose ) to relieve your symptoms.

In spite of your p-doc being in the icu life moves on and you need a psychopharmacologist well versed in cutting edge philosophy and practices that would use opiates in their treatment.

I find it ironic that before the advent of modern psychiatry opiates were used for depression and a variety of mental disorders. A drug that comes from mother earth and is effective from day 1. Yet dispite billions spent by big pharm and a 100 years of research they have really not given us anything better than the opiates and in most cases vastly inferior. Makes you wonder. Maybe the answer was there all along!

Your task is to find a p-doc that is willing to work and think outside the box.

 

Re: Radical New Treatment With Fast Success

Posted by Phillipa on May 26, 2009, at 19:44:43

In reply to Re: Radical New Treatment With Fast Success, posted by bulldog2 on May 26, 2009, at 15:22:59

Yesterday was a really bad day rain and just couldn't get it together. Bulldog on bioidentical hormones now. Staying with the luvox and benzos. Sorry I just was so mad at me for not being normal whatever that is. I guess the old me. Love and thanks for all our your concern. Phillipa

 

Re: Radical New Treatment With Fast Success » bulldog2

Posted by garnet71 on May 26, 2009, at 19:59:48

In reply to Re: Radical New Treatment With Fast Success, posted by bulldog2 on May 26, 2009, at 15:22:59

Bulldog2, How do you know this to be true?

"Unfortunately after your years on an ssri you more than likely have disrupted your dopamine system which in turn has has played havoc with healthy opiod production. Healthy opiod production relies on a healthy dopamine neuroendicine susbsystem. Some symtoms of a subpar opiod system would be thyroid problems, anxiety issues, and chronic aches and pains. You need to use hormones and or medications to try and rebalance your dopamine system. The smallest patch of emsam might help with dopamine rebalancing. In spite of dopamine rebalancing your opiod system may be permanently injured thru ssri insult and you would require permanent opiate supplementation (low dose ) to relieve your symptoms. "

 

Re: Radical New Treatment With Fast Success » bulldog2

Posted by Sigismund on May 27, 2009, at 17:07:03

In reply to Re: Radical New Treatment With Fast Success, posted by bulldog2 on May 26, 2009, at 15:22:59

>I find it ironic that before the advent of modern psychiatry opiates were used for depression and a variety of mental disorders. A drug that comes from mother earth and is effective from day 1. Yet dispite billions spent by big pharm and a 100 years of research they have really not given us anything better than the opiates and in most cases vastly inferior. Makes you wonder. Maybe the answer was there all along!

Every second indigenous culture had psychoactive plants more satisfactory than the drugs created by the pharmaceutical industry.

 

Re: Radical New Treatment With Fast Success

Posted by Neal on May 28, 2009, at 0:51:47

In reply to Re: Radical New Treatment With Fast Success » bulldog2, posted by Sigismund on May 27, 2009, at 17:07:03

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> >I find it ironic that before the advent of modern psychiatry opiates were used for depression and a variety of mental disorders. A drug that comes from mother earth and is effective from day 1. Yet dispite billions spent by big pharm and a 100 years of research they have really not given us anything better than the opiates and in most cases vastly inferior.

I agree, Sigismund, but also think that it wouldn't work for everyone. Maybe I0%-20% would respond long-term positively.

The America of the I9th century had the so-called "patent" medicines that were often opiates or alcohol by other names. People often medicated themselves with laudenum, which was an alcoholic herbal preparation of opium. The medical profession was in it's infancy, with many quacks and just plain ignorant people practicing medicine. People were really on their own, and even if they could afford a doctor, they avoided them.


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Re: Radical New Treatment With Fast Success » Phillipa

Posted by Neal on May 28, 2009, at 1:53:42

In reply to Re: Radical New Treatment With Fast Success, posted by Phillipa on May 26, 2009, at 19:44:43

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"Bulldog on bioidentical hormones now."

. . . wait a minute, bulldog who? you mean bulldog whose post started this thread? I'm confused :)


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Re: Radical New Treatment With Fast Success » Neal

Posted by Phillipa on May 28, 2009, at 19:00:01

In reply to Re: Radical New Treatment With Fast Success » Phillipa, posted by Neal on May 28, 2009, at 1:53:42

Neal glad to see someone else gets confused!!!! Just telling Bulldog I'm taking bioidentical hormones now. Babblemail if need more info. Love Phillipa

 

Re: Radical New Treatment With Fast Success » Phillipa

Posted by Neal on May 29, 2009, at 0:08:51

In reply to Re: Radical New Treatment With Fast Success » Neal, posted by Phillipa on May 28, 2009, at 19:00:01

> Neal glad to see someone else gets confused!!!! Just telling Bulldog I'm taking bioidentical hormones now. Babblemail if need more info. Love Phillipa

I'm in the midst of moving, so I'm really confused. What are bioidentical hormones? Is it like "Invasion of the Body Snatchers", and someone is growing an identical body to yours in the greenhouse?


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