Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 847238

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Drinking while on Nardil...

Posted by daryl2926 on August 19, 2008, at 14:56:53

I am meeting an old friend this week and will probably be drinking a few bottles of beer. However I have just started Nardil (60mg a day)5-6 days ago. I understand that I need to be cautious drinking too much because of the Tyramine content (will be drinking from bottles not Tap) But I am concerned that this may affect my progress with the Nardil kicking in. I have heard that drinking Alcohol while on SSRI's stops them working, but is this the same for MAOI's like Nardil? Will having a few bottles of beer stop the Nardil from working properly? (Bearing in mind also that this is only one occasion)

Thanks,
Daryl

 

Re: Drinking while on Nardil...

Posted by ricker on August 19, 2008, at 21:30:00

In reply to Drinking while on Nardil..., posted by daryl2926 on August 19, 2008, at 14:56:53

I was on Nardil in 1989 for 3 months. My pdoc quickly stopped it after I was delivered to the emerg. dept one night.
I went to bed with a cough. Woke up in the middle of the night and took 2 teaspoons of cough syrup...I was half asleep , but still not a good excuse.
I remember sitting at the kitchen table, a police officer staring at me and then an ambulance showing up.
My wife said I was acting like a zombie. I'll have to take her word as I didn't remember much. She said the ambulace left our house with it's lights on, she was following, 2 minutes into the trip on came the siren?

I don't know what they administered to counter the reaction but I do remember my pdoc showing up in the emerg. that morning.

I described how I felt, it was kinda like I was in a outside myself, but I could not control anything, very frightening.

He had me stop Nardil for 2 weeks and then started me on clomipramine.

Long story short, do not consumme alchol while taking maoi's.

 

Re: Drinking while on Nardil... » ricker

Posted by desolationrower on August 19, 2008, at 21:48:17

In reply to Re: Drinking while on Nardil..., posted by ricker on August 19, 2008, at 21:30:00

Um.....a few drinks now and then is fine.

Cough syrup, or decongestant, or stuff like that can kill you. Read the ingredient list, please pay attention.

 

Re: Drinking while on Nardil...

Posted by ricker on August 19, 2008, at 21:58:41

In reply to Re: Drinking while on Nardil... » ricker, posted by desolationrower on August 19, 2008, at 21:48:17

> Um.....a few drinks now and then is fine.
>
> Cough syrup, or decongestant, or stuff like that can kill you. Read the ingredient list, please pay attention.


True enough. To be completley honest, I was never told by my d/doc what had caused the reaction.
I had always asummed it was the alchol in the cough syrup? Perhaps not.

Good advise to really understand what is "safe" to consume while on maoi's.

I would still proceed with caution though. Alchol consumption may impair one's judgement... with or without meds.

 

Re: Read ALL labels on cough syrups » ricker

Posted by UGottaHaveHope on August 20, 2008, at 0:02:50

In reply to Re: Drinking while on Nardil..., posted by ricker on August 19, 2008, at 21:58:41

Ricker, most if not all cough syrups have MAOI warnings on them. Here are details on the dangerous MAOI interaction:

Dextromethorphan - found in many cold and cough medications, especially any drug with DM or Tuss in its name. These include Bromarest-DM or -DX, Dimetane-DX cough syrup, Dristan Cold & Flu, Phenergan with Dextromethorphan, Robitussin-DM, several Tylenol cold, cough, and flu preparations, and many others

 

Re: Drinking while on Nardil... » daryl2926

Posted by UGottaHaveHope on August 20, 2008, at 0:03:54

In reply to Drinking while on Nardil..., posted by daryl2926 on August 19, 2008, at 14:56:53

Every med affects everyone differently, but I have a few social drinks and it has never affected my experience with Nardil.

Of course, as Ricker said, be careful always with alcohol.

 

Re: Read ALL labels on cough syrups

Posted by ricker on August 20, 2008, at 0:53:48

In reply to Re: Read ALL labels on cough syrups » ricker, posted by UGottaHaveHope on August 20, 2008, at 0:02:50

I apologize if my first post sounded somewhat negative. In no way did I mean to insight fear towards Nardil.
I believe it is an excellant medication and has proved invaluable to many.
As mentioned, my incident occured in 1989, but I'm sure the warnings would have been on cough syrup back then.

I have always been one to appreciate the potential for drugs, both positive and negative.
If I can error with a medication dosing, then just having this thread may prevent someone from making the same mistake.

Regards, Rick

 

Re: Read ALL labels on cough syrups » ricker

Posted by Amigan on August 20, 2008, at 3:17:56

In reply to Re: Read ALL labels on cough syrups, posted by ricker on August 20, 2008, at 0:53:48

Your incident had nothing to do with alcohol.

 

Re: Drinking while on Nardil...

Posted by daryl2926 on August 20, 2008, at 5:10:25

In reply to Re: Drinking while on Nardil... » daryl2926, posted by UGottaHaveHope on August 20, 2008, at 0:03:54

Thanks for the replies everyone, but I was already aware of the potential dangers of drinking too much alcohol, I guess I just really wanted to know about given the fact that I am still waiting to get the major effect from Nardil, and I am still in the early stages of taking it, could this light drinking session hamper or stop the drug from reaching is full effeciveness?

Thanks
Daryl

 

Re: Drinking while on Nardil...

Posted by blueboy on August 20, 2008, at 11:34:29

In reply to Drinking while on Nardil..., posted by daryl2926 on August 19, 2008, at 14:56:53

Nardil is a dangerous drug. Get a list of substances that you cannot ingest while taking Nardil, memorize it, and follow it like your life depends on it -- because it does.

The warnings about not drinking have nothing (afaik) to do with alcohol. The primary problem is tyramine content. You shouldn't drink beer even if it is "no alcohol" beer. Same with wine.

I'd advise you to stick to vodka. And please, study up until you get a really good idea of what foods and drugs you need to avoid.

 

Re: Drinking while on Nardil...

Posted by Vik07 on August 20, 2008, at 15:12:24

In reply to Drinking while on Nardil..., posted by daryl2926 on August 19, 2008, at 14:56:53

> I am meeting an old friend this week and will probably be drinking a few bottles of beer. However I have just started Nardil (60mg a day)5-6 days ago. I understand that I need to be cautious drinking too much because of the Tyramine content (will be drinking from bottles not Tap) But I am concerned that this may affect my progress with the Nardil kicking in. I have heard that drinking Alcohol while on SSRI's stops them working, but is this the same for MAOI's like Nardil? Will having a few bottles of beer stop the Nardil from working properly? (Bearing in mind also that this is only one occasion)
>
> Thanks,
> Daryl

I have never heard taking alcohol stops Nardil from working. Just been on Nardil for five days myself. If you stay away from tap bear, some wines, and do not drink much, I think you will be fine. I do not drink any alcohol while on Nardil, but that's just because my brain feels a bit foggy these days. Good luck with the Nardil and meeting your friend!

 

Re: Read ALL labels on cough syrups

Posted by ricker on August 20, 2008, at 15:25:22

In reply to Re: Read ALL labels on cough syrups » ricker, posted by Amigan on August 20, 2008, at 3:17:56

> Your incident had nothing to do with alcohol.

Thanks for the additional reminder. I believe desolationrower pointed that out.

 

Re: Drinking while on Nardil...

Posted by Merge on August 20, 2008, at 17:32:09

In reply to Drinking while on Nardil..., posted by daryl2926 on August 19, 2008, at 14:56:53

I have no idea about whether or not alcohol will hinder your progress on an MAOI. However, when I was on an MAOI, my doctor gave me a complete list of foods and drinks I should not consume - and beer and wine were on that list (even non-alcoholic versions) because of the potential tyramine reaction. He actually said to me, "I hope you don't drink, but if you feel the urge, DO NOT DRINK BEER OR WINE. Drink vodka."

I would be much more worried about having a hypertensive crisis from drinking beer than I would be about alcohol reducing the effectiveness of Nardil.

 

Re: Read ALL labels on cough syrups » ricker

Posted by UGottaHaveHope on August 21, 2008, at 3:14:34

In reply to Re: Read ALL labels on cough syrups, posted by ricker on August 20, 2008, at 0:53:48

Ricker, no apologies needed, as you were simply kind enough to try to help. Thanks for contributing on this board. Take care, Michael

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> I apologize if my first post sounded somewhat negative. In no way did I mean to insight fear towards Nardil.
> I believe it is an excellant medication and has proved invaluable to many.
> As mentioned, my incident occured in 1989, but I'm sure the warnings would have been on cough syrup back then.
>
> I have always been one to appreciate the potential for drugs, both positive and negative.
> If I can error with a medication dosing, then just having this thread may prevent someone from making the same mistake.
>
> Regards, Rick
>


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