Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 836061

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Ultram (Tramadol) for Anxiety and Depression

Posted by Mike_Cohen_2 on June 23, 2008, at 14:59:26

First, I have read many posts within and outside of Psychobabble where people have had great success with Ultram for both Anxiety and Depression. The debate seems to be "Addiction". And, they say it is similar to Effexor which I've never tried. I couldn't tolerate Wellbutrin and Zoloft at the same time, so I don't know if trying Effexor is even worth a try. However, I know from the past before all of this anxiety crap started that Narcotics work well for me. They give me a lift and of course euphoria and just make me feel good.

I am so sick of playing lab rat to my psychiatrist and being an RN, I can get my hands on Ultram through one of my doc. friends.

All of these meds are addicting, and from what I read there doesn't seem to be a tolerance issue for the people that use Ultram. It's a class 4 drug. Works on Serotonin and Norepi like Effexor. Also from what I've read, if you don't have past opiate addiction problems than you should be fine taking it and that also you don't get the Euphoria that you get from other narcotics.

If I had anxiety and depression, which I do, and added one more ailment such as a bad constant soar back, which I don't, I could have this prescribed and probably feel better. In fact this is how people have found out that Ultram has made them feel better from their anxiety and depression.

Pain is pain, whether it's physical or psychological. You have to taper off all the meds that are considered psychotrophic as they "ARE" addicting. Not trying to raise a debate here, but I guess my underlying question is this:

Does Ultram really, truly, work ?

 

Re: Ultram (Tramadol) for Anxiety and Depression Mike_Cohen_2

Posted by Midnightblue on June 23, 2008, at 15:59:20

In reply to Ultram (Tramadol) for Anxiety and Depression, posted by Mike_Cohen_2 on June 23, 2008, at 14:59:26

I tried it for pain. Physical pain and I hated it.

 

Re: Ultram (Tramadol) for Anxiety and Depression

Posted by Phillipa on June 23, 2008, at 16:23:10

In reply to Re: Ultram (Tramadol) for Anxiety and Depression Mike_Cohen_2, posted by Midnightblue on June 23, 2008, at 15:59:20

Percocet l tab a day had me laughing and it lifted depression and anxiety. It's almost a joke as they prescribe valium for me but not pain meds. Haven't tried ultram. Phillipa

 

Re: Ultram (Tramadol) for Anxiety and Depressio Mike_Cohen_2

Posted by ryno on June 23, 2008, at 16:51:11

In reply to Ultram (Tramadol) for Anxiety and Depression, posted by Mike_Cohen_2 on June 23, 2008, at 14:59:26

>
> All of these meds are addicting, and from what I read there doesn't seem to be a tolerance issue for the people that use Ultram. It's a class 4 drug. Works on Serotonin and Norepi like Effexor. Also from what I've read, if you don't have past opiate addiction problems than you should be fine taking it and that also you don't get the Euphoria that you get from other narcotics.


Tolerance is indeed an issue with ultram. I'd say the tolerance is about the same as any other opiate. Euphoria is less than other narcotics. As far as long term use, I'd say you'd be better off using oxycodone. Tramadol lowers the seizure threshold and from my personal experience it doesn't take long before your tolerance brings it to a dangerous level.

I used to get rx'd it over the internet, 180 50mg at a time. By the time the bottle was gone, i'd be up to at least 15 a day, needing 4 of them just to feel anything. I couldn't imagine what kind of doses i'd be using if I kept using them for months.

Bear in mind, I'm an addictive sort of person. Surely a responsible person could keep use to 200mg a day, but I doubt that would have much anti-depressant effect beyond a few weeks. As always, your mileage may vary.

Good Luck,
Ryan

 

Re: Ultram (Tramadol) for Anxiety and Depression

Posted by bleauberry on June 23, 2008, at 17:40:50

In reply to Ultram (Tramadol) for Anxiety and Depression, posted by Mike_Cohen_2 on June 23, 2008, at 14:59:26

Prior to revolution health being bought out and reformed, in their original archives of patient reviews of psych meds ultram was the highest rated of them all. Tolerance and dependence were mentioned often, but were not a problem with everyone.

I tried it in low doses about a year ago since it is easy to get on the web. I was feeling a little better for a few days when I added Modafinil to it, since that one was the second highest rated drug. How could I go wrong with the top 2 meds? Anyway, I got really really depressed. Very bad. Stopped them both and recovered to baseline in about 3 days. With the benefit of hindsight, it is Modafinil that does that to me. No idea how things would have gone had I stayed with Ultram. I guess the whole addiction/tolerance thing had me scared of getting in over my head.

 

Re: Ultram (Tramadol) for Anxiety and Depressio

Posted by Horned One on June 23, 2008, at 18:37:49

In reply to Re: Ultram (Tramadol) for Anxiety and Depression, posted by bleauberry on June 23, 2008, at 17:40:50

I was one of the original posters on RemedyFind (now revolution health). There was another poster from here called AmeSansVie who also contributed. I was first prescribed tramadol for pain, and with hindsight suffered a bout of severe depression after I stopped it. Later I discovered its 'mood elevating' effect and started buying it from online pharmacies. Tolerance developed very quickly, within a month or so I went from taking 50mg every four hours to 800mg several times a day - double the recommened maximum daily dose. I had to quit it cold turkey several times and the withdrawal symptoms were harsh.

I think tramadol was more euphoric than the codeine I'm addicted to now, but that could be just because it was in pure form and I could raise the dose as I needed it. I haven't tried any other opiates so I can't compare it them. I'm vaguely hoping I might get to try buprenorphine some day.

-Horny

 

Re: Ultram (Tramadol) for Anxiety and Depressio Horned One

Posted by Phillipa on June 23, 2008, at 20:19:41

In reply to Re: Ultram (Tramadol) for Anxiety and Depressio, posted by Horned One on June 23, 2008, at 18:37:49

AmesSanVie is no longer with us on this earth.Phillipa

 

Re: Ultram (Tramadol) for Anxiety and Depressio

Posted by Valero on June 23, 2008, at 23:41:38

In reply to Ultram (Tramadol) for Anxiety and Depression, posted by Mike_Cohen_2 on June 23, 2008, at 14:59:26

Tramadol certainly does have antidepressant qualaties.

What I find especially interesting about Tramadol, is that the real mood boost kicks in 2 days after taking it. I get the actual effects of the drug on day one,( which are ok but nothing special) half of day two is fine, then comes a mild withdrawal phase of some 12 hrs, after that I feel
on top of the world for 2-3 days, before starting the cycle again. Which means taking just 2 x 50mg a week. Tolerance is not an issue when used like this. I've put it down as a potential drug induced inter- dose mild hypomanic phase, which cools off again on reintroduction of the drug.

The secret (for me )to using all of these meds. is to listen to what your body tells you, and act accordingly. Everybody is different, Doctors often don't know what's best for you, but by the same token, upping the dose of a favourite drug to combat tolerance seldom if ever works in the long term.

 

Re: Ultram (Tramadol) for Anxiety and Depressio

Posted by Sigismund on June 24, 2008, at 0:32:09

In reply to Re: Ultram (Tramadol) for Anxiety and Depressio, posted by Valero on June 23, 2008, at 23:41:38

>What I find especially interesting about Tramadol, is that the real mood boost kicks in 2 days after taking it. I get the actual effects of the drug on day one,( which are ok but nothing special) half of day two is fine, then comes a mild withdrawal phase of some 12 hrs, after that I feel
on top of the world for 2-3 days, before starting the cycle again. Which means taking just 2 x 50mg a week. Tolerance is not an issue when used like this. I've put it down as a potential drug induced inter- dose mild hypomanic phase, which cools off again on reintroduction of the drug.


That's very interesting.

I don't think I remember it like that, but thank you anyway.

 

Re: Ultram (Tramadol) for Anxiety and Depressio

Posted by francineus on June 26, 2008, at 7:11:16

In reply to Re: Ultram (Tramadol) for Anxiety and Depressio, posted by Sigismund on June 24, 2008, at 0:32:09

I would steer clear of it. It's very addictive, just
like all narcotic like painkillers. The potential for abuse is very high. And unlike most AD's it gives you a "high" after taking it.


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