Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 830064

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High dose Lyrica is euphoric/addictive!

Posted by IAMtheWalrus on May 20, 2008, at 8:24:10

I take 700mgs. a day of Lyrica as prescribed. But, if i take more 1000mgs. plus, i get a high from it-i would say it's euphoric for me at 1000mgs. plus. Unfortunately, it poops out after a few days, and i don't have enough to take that high dose every day anyway. Anyway, i sure like the lift it gives my mood and i could see how this drug could be addictive.

Wally

 

Re: High dose Lyrica is euphoric/addictive!

Posted by James_Glasgow_UK on May 20, 2008, at 8:56:32

In reply to High dose Lyrica is euphoric/addictive!, posted by IAMtheWalrus on May 20, 2008, at 8:24:10

Hiya

When I first started seeing people explaining what it felt like to be on it and as it is license here in the UK for GAD (where Doctors do not like using benzodiazepines, I got a script for it for GAD the day after it was licensed), I was thinking it will not be long before it becomes controlled drug here and a good bit higher than schedule 5 as it is in the US.

After that I thought knowing the medical establishment who continually repeat the same mistakes of saying here is something new, oh and it has few side-effects, is not addictive, etc. etc. it may take a very long time and become a major problem similar to Seroxat/Paxil/Aropax and become valuable on the street too as word spreads.

James

 

Re: High dose Lyrica is euphoric/addictive! » James_Glasgow_UK

Posted by IAMtheWalrus on May 20, 2008, at 9:03:47

In reply to Re: High dose Lyrica is euphoric/addictive!, posted by James_Glasgow_UK on May 20, 2008, at 8:56:32

> Hiya
>
> When I first started seeing people explaining what it felt like to be on it and as it is license here in the UK for GAD (where Doctors do not like using benzodiazepines, I got a script for it for GAD the day after it was licensed), I was thinking it will not be long before it becomes controlled drug here and a good bit higher than schedule 5 as it is in the US.
>
> After that I thought knowing the medical establishment who continually repeat the same mistakes of saying here is something new, oh and it has few side-effects, is not addictive, etc. etc. it may take a very long time and become a major problem similar to Seroxat/Paxil/Aropax and become valuable on the street too as word spreads.
>
> James

Yeah, i totally agree with you. It is a great med however, if taken properly,i.e. it really helps my diabetic neuropathy, it's also used for chronic pain. So, it is a good med., but it does have addictive properties.

Wally

 

Re: High dose Lyrica is euphoric/addictive! » IAMtheWalrus

Posted by Phillipa on May 20, 2008, at 12:07:11

In reply to Re: High dose Lyrica is euphoric/addictive! » James_Glasgow_UK, posted by IAMtheWalrus on May 20, 2008, at 9:03:47

I think there are some thread on withdrawal. Heard it's great in the beginning and then it as someone wrote here harder to withdraw from than benzos. If it's prescribed and used for pain shouldn't it be okay? What dose for pain? Love Phillipa

 

Re: High dose Lyrica is euphoric/addictive!

Posted by bulldog2 on May 20, 2008, at 12:47:25

In reply to Re: High dose Lyrica is euphoric/addictive! » IAMtheWalrus, posted by Phillipa on May 20, 2008, at 12:07:11

Yes I'm curious as to what dose to use for pain.
Also does the pain relieving aspect of this med also poop out.

 

Re: High dose Lyrica is euphoric/addictive! » bulldog2

Posted by IAMtheWalrus on May 20, 2008, at 13:29:50

In reply to Re: High dose Lyrica is euphoric/addictive!, posted by bulldog2 on May 20, 2008, at 12:47:25

> Yes I'm curious as to what dose to use for pain.
> Also does the pain relieving aspect of this med also poop out.

For pain i would guess 200mgs-400mgs., and no it doesn't poop out for pain.

Wally

 

Re: High dose Lyrica is euphoric/addictive! » Phillipa

Posted by IAMtheWalrus on May 20, 2008, at 13:31:59

In reply to Re: High dose Lyrica is euphoric/addictive! » IAMtheWalrus, posted by Phillipa on May 20, 2008, at 12:07:11

> I think there are some thread on withdrawal. Heard it's great in the beginning and then it as someone wrote here harder to withdraw from than benzos. If it's prescribed and used for pain shouldn't it be okay? What dose for pain? Love Phillipa

I would say 200-400mgs. for pain. And, i've gone off of it many times with no trouble at all.

Wally

 

Re: High dose Lyrica is euphoric/addictive!

Posted by bulldog2 on May 20, 2008, at 15:32:43

In reply to Re: High dose Lyrica is euphoric/addictive! » Phillipa, posted by IAMtheWalrus on May 20, 2008, at 13:31:59

> > I think there are some thread on withdrawal. Heard it's great in the beginning and then it as someone wrote here harder to withdraw from than benzos. If it's prescribed and used for pain shouldn't it be okay? What dose for pain? Love Phillipa
>
> I would say 200-400mgs. for pain. And, i've gone off of it many times with no trouble at all.
>
> Wally


So you take Lyrica for three days and stop? Than you wait another week and restart? Do you always restart at 700 mg?

 

Re: High dose Lyrica is euphoric/addictive!

Posted by bulldog2 on May 20, 2008, at 15:36:20

In reply to Re: High dose Lyrica is euphoric/addictive!, posted by bulldog2 on May 20, 2008, at 15:32:43

> > > I think there are some thread on withdrawal. Heard it's great in the beginning and then it as someone wrote here harder to withdraw from than benzos. If it's prescribed and used for pain shouldn't it be okay? What dose for pain? Love Phillipa
> >
> > I would say 200-400mgs. for pain. And, i've gone off of it many times with no trouble at all.
> >
> > Wally
>
>
> So you take Lyrica for three days and stop? Than you wait another week and restart? Do you always restart at 700 mg?
>

Do you take the dose in the morning and does it's effects last all day?

 

Re: High dose Lyrica is euphoric/addictive! » bulldog2

Posted by IAMtheWalrus on May 20, 2008, at 15:43:16

In reply to Re: High dose Lyrica is euphoric/addictive!, posted by bulldog2 on May 20, 2008, at 15:32:43

> > > I think there are some thread on withdrawal. Heard it's great in the beginning and then it as someone wrote here harder to withdraw from than benzos. If it's prescribed and used for pain shouldn't it be okay? What dose for pain? Love Phillipa
> >
> > I would say 200-400mgs. for pain. And, i've gone off of it many times with no trouble at all.
> >
> > Wally
>
>
> So you take Lyrica for three days and stop? Than you wait another week and restart? Do you always restart at 700 mg?
>

Actually i occasionally take 1000mgs. a day to get the "lift" i was talking about...i do it for 2-3 days, then i go back to 700mgs. a day. I only do this a couple of times a month. Sometimes i'll reduce my dose all the way down to 200mgs. for a week, then i go up to 1000mgs plus for a real nice lift for a few days. For me, it feels Great!! I wish it would last longer.

Wally

 

Re: High dose Lyrica is euphoric/addictive! » bulldog2

Posted by IAMtheWalrus on May 20, 2008, at 15:47:19

In reply to Re: High dose Lyrica is euphoric/addictive!, posted by bulldog2 on May 20, 2008, at 15:36:20

> > > > I think there are some thread on withdrawal. Heard it's great in the beginning and then it as someone wrote here harder to withdraw from than benzos. If it's prescribed and used for pain shouldn't it be okay? What dose for pain? Love Phillipa
> > >
> > > I would say 200-400mgs. for pain. And, i've gone off of it many times with no trouble at all.
> > >
> > > Wally
> >
> >
> > So you take Lyrica for three days and stop? Than you wait another week and restart? Do you always restart at 700 mg?
> >
>
> Do you take the dose in the morning and does it's effects last all day?

My doc told me to split it 300 in the morning 400 in the early afternoon. But i prefer to take it all at once in the morning. I don't know what it's half life is, but if i take a high dose 1000mgs. plus, it lasts longer than a day for me...sometimes i still feel the affects the next morning.

Wally

 

Re: High dose Lyrica is euphoric/addictive!

Posted by bulldog2 on May 20, 2008, at 17:04:04

In reply to Re: High dose Lyrica is euphoric/addictive! » bulldog2, posted by IAMtheWalrus on May 20, 2008, at 15:47:19

> > > > > I think there are some thread on withdrawal. Heard it's great in the beginning and then it as someone wrote here harder to withdraw from than benzos. If it's prescribed and used for pain shouldn't it be okay? What dose for pain? Love Phillipa
> > > >
> > > > I would say 200-400mgs. for pain. And, i've gone off of it many times with no trouble at all.
> > > >
> > > > Wally
> > >
> > >
> > > So you take Lyrica for three days and stop? Than you wait another week and restart? Do you always restart at 700 mg?
> > >
> >
> > Do you take the dose in the morning and does it's effects last all day?
>
> My doc told me to split it 300 in the morning 400 in the early afternoon. But i prefer to take it all at once in the morning. I don't know what it's half life is, but if i take a high dose 1000mgs. plus, it lasts longer than a day for me...sometimes i still feel the affects the next morning.
>
> Wally

so you never really go off but just reduce the dose? how much weight have you gained on lyrica?

 

Re: High dose Lyrica is euphoric/addictive! » bulldog2

Posted by IAMtheWalrus on May 20, 2008, at 18:01:25

In reply to Re: High dose Lyrica is euphoric/addictive!, posted by bulldog2 on May 20, 2008, at 17:04:04

> > > > > > I think there are some thread on withdrawal. Heard it's great in the beginning and then it as someone wrote here harder to withdraw from than benzos. If it's prescribed and used for pain shouldn't it be okay? What dose for pain? Love Phillipa
> > > > >
> > > > > I would say 200-400mgs. for pain. And, i've gone off of it many times with no trouble at all.
> > > > >
> > > > > Wally
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So you take Lyrica for three days and stop? Than you wait another week and restart? Do you always restart at 700 mg?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Do you take the dose in the morning and does it's effects last all day?
> >
> > My doc told me to split it 300 in the morning 400 in the early afternoon. But i prefer to take it all at once in the morning. I don't know what it's half life is, but if i take a high dose 1000mgs. plus, it lasts longer than a day for me...sometimes i still feel the affects the next morning.
> >
> > Wally
>
> so you never really go off but just reduce the dose? how much weight have you gained on lyrica?

I have to stay on 200mgs. minimum for diabetic neuropathy in my feet. I haven't gained any weight on Lyrica.

Wally

 

Re: High dose Lyrica is euphoric/addictive!

Posted by James_Glasgow_UK on May 21, 2008, at 3:26:43

In reply to Re: High dose Lyrica is euphoric/addictive! » bulldog2, posted by IAMtheWalrus on May 20, 2008, at 18:01:25

> > > > > > > I think there are some thread on withdrawal. Heard it's great in the beginning and then it as someone wrote here harder to withdraw from than benzos. If it's prescribed and used for pain shouldn't it be okay? What dose for pain? Love Phillipa
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I would say 200-400mgs. for pain. And, i've gone off of it many times with no trouble at all.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wally
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > So you take Lyrica for three days and stop? Than you wait another week and restart? Do you always restart at 700 mg?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Do you take the dose in the morning and does it's effects last all day?
> > >
> > > My doc told me to split it 300 in the morning 400 in the early afternoon. But i prefer to take it all at once in the morning. I don't know what it's half life is, but if i take a high dose 1000mgs. plus, it lasts longer than a day for me...sometimes i still feel the affects the next morning.
> > >
> > > Wally
> >
> > so you never really go off but just reduce the dose? how much weight have you gained on lyrica?
>
> I have to stay on 200mgs. minimum for diabetic neuropathy in my feet. I haven't gained any weight on Lyrica.
>
> Wally


I was about to ask the same question as I was wondering about your neuropathy. So does it continue to keep the pain at bay despite losing the euphoric effect? Here in the UK my GP said it is being widely used now as they have found it to be a very effective medicine. It certainly took away my post herpetic neuralgia after shingles but it did make me stagger about rather alot as the dose was increased.

James

 

Lyrica withdrawal v. benzo withdrawal

Posted by cedar on May 28, 2008, at 15:15:13

In reply to Re: High dose Lyrica is euphoric/addictive! » IAMtheWalrus, posted by Phillipa on May 20, 2008, at 12:07:11

In response to Phillipa's message about the addictive potential and withdrawal issues with Lyrica--here are my two cents. I added Lyrica to a regimen of Benzos about a year ago and found it incredibly helpful for anxiety at first (even helped to reduce Benzo dosage), and actually found it helpful for depression too at first, though I think it may have made the depression worse in the long term. But although I don't use illicit drugs, I inevitably abuse any prescription drug that is even slightly addictive, and after about 6 months I had to go off of it. For me, cold turkey withdrawal, especially after taking a whole bunch in attempt to achieve the euphoria described in this thread, was definitely uncomfortable--it felt like all my nerve endings were on fire--which I guess makes sense given that it is intended for a particular type of nerve pain. But with a gradual taper of only about 10 days, I actually felt completely fine. And this is coming from someone who has had repeated hellish experiences withdrawing from klonopin and other benzos (including seizures, and ultimately the need to be hospitalized for borderline psychosis), as well as the usual protracted pain of withdrawal from things like paxil and effexor, so I consider myself incredibly sensitive to withdrawal.

There's no question that everybody is different, but if you suspect or find that Lyrica is helpful to you, and you are able to use it without abusing it, I don't think you should be overly concerned about withdrawal--certainly be sure to taper and do so under a doctor's supervision, but I don't think you will experience anything even remotely comparable to benzo withdrawal.

 

Re: Lyrica withdrawal v. benzo withdrawal

Posted by SLS on May 28, 2008, at 15:26:46

In reply to Lyrica withdrawal v. benzo withdrawal, posted by cedar on May 28, 2008, at 15:15:13

> I added Lyrica to a regimen of Benzos about a year ago and found it incredibly helpful for anxiety at first (even helped to reduce Benzo dosage), and actually found it helpful for depression too at first, though I think it may have made the depression worse in the long term.

I experienced the same thing with Lyrica. I initially found it to be mildly antidepressant. However, this effect was lost and replaced by an exacerbation of depression that lingered for weeks after discontinuing the drug. Neurontin does exactly the same thing to me. I plan to stay away from alpha2delta subunit ligands of the calcium channel in the future. Both of these drugs have this property in common.


- Scott

 

Re: Lyrica withdrawal v. benzo withdrawal

Posted by IAMtheWalrus on May 28, 2008, at 15:51:21

In reply to Lyrica withdrawal v. benzo withdrawal, posted by cedar on May 28, 2008, at 15:15:13

> In response to Phillipa's message about the addictive potential and withdrawal issues with Lyrica--here are my two cents. I added Lyrica to a regimen of Benzos about a year ago and found it incredibly helpful for anxiety at first (even helped to reduce Benzo dosage), and actually found it helpful for depression too at first, though I think it may have made the depression worse in the long term. But although I don't use illicit drugs, I inevitably abuse any prescription drug that is even slightly addictive, and after about 6 months I had to go off of it. For me, cold turkey withdrawal, especially after taking a whole bunch in attempt to achieve the euphoria described in this thread, was definitely uncomfortable--it felt like all my nerve endings were on fire--which I guess makes sense given that it is intended for a particular type of nerve pain. But with a gradual taper of only about 10 days, I actually felt completely fine. And this is coming from someone who has had repeated hellish experiences withdrawing from klonopin and other benzos (including seizures, and ultimately the need to be hospitalized for borderline psychosis), as well as the usual protracted pain of withdrawal from things like paxil and effexor, so I consider myself incredibly sensitive to withdrawal.
>
> There's no question that everybody is different, but if you suspect or find that Lyrica is helpful to you, and you are able to use it without abusing it, I don't think you should be overly concerned about withdrawal--certainly be sure to taper and do so under a doctor's supervision, but I don't think you will experience anything even remotely comparable to benzo withdrawal.

Thanks for being so honest. Unfortunately Lyrica's affects didn' last for me either. I also took more to try to get back to that original euphoria.

-W

 

Re: High dose Lyrica is euphoric/addictive!

Posted by RICE on August 1, 2008, at 14:48:55

In reply to Re: High dose Lyrica is euphoric/addictive! » bulldog2, posted by IAMtheWalrus on May 20, 2008, at 15:47:19

High dose Lyrica, say around 1400mg and up, is really interesting.

Dreaming and, reality mix intractably at night, and the day more seems simpler andless worrisome

It eradicates anxiety/depression for me at these doses, but only works for a about 4 days. Cycling at ones optimal dose seems to be the best bet.


Eric
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