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Re: Protein

Posted by UgottaHaveHope on October 17, 2005, at 0:15:49

In reply to Re: Fatigue after eating?, posted by Declan on October 16, 2005, at 16:23:46

protein-only sounds like the way to go for you. best of luck.

and if i dont get caffeine in the afternoon, im tired the rest of the day.

sometimes, i think sleepiness can be a state of mind.

i'm never sleepy when i am around a beautiful woman!

 

Re: Fatigue after eating? What it was for me

Posted by shasling on October 17, 2005, at 9:52:08

In reply to Fatigue after eating?, posted by Regis Harold on October 15, 2005, at 15:46:45

I had the same thing for years. Also had an undiagnosed corticol insufficiency. I take low dose Cortef now and the fatigue after eating is gone.

 

Re: Fatigue after eating? What it was for me

Posted by Regis Harold on October 17, 2005, at 12:00:33

In reply to Re: Fatigue after eating? What it was for me, posted by shasling on October 17, 2005, at 9:52:08

shasling - How did you end up getting diagnosed? Were there any specific tests you took to determine that you had adrenal insufficiency? How did you end up getting prescribed hyrdrocortisone?

I have considered adrenal insufficiency being a possible cause. I took a product by Enzymatic Therapy that contained adrenal extract, but it didn't appear to be doing a lot of good after a bottle of that stuff.

 

Re: Fatigue after eating? » Regis Harold

Posted by Sarah T. on October 17, 2005, at 22:13:03

In reply to Fatigue after eating?, posted by Regis Harold on October 15, 2005, at 15:46:45

Hi Regis.

I have the same problem. It started about a year and half or two years ago. I've experimented with different foods, and that doesn't seem to help. Until this problem began, I used to eat mostly protein-based meals during the day, and I'd reserve the bulk of my carbohydrates for the night-time, when I want to be tired and groggy anyway. That helped until about two years ago.

The only thing that helps a little bit is to eat five or six tiny meals a day rather than several medium-sized or large ones. The trouble is, the meals have to be really tiny. For example, I can eat one protein bar or a container of yogurt or a small serving of cottage cheese or meat. This is so inconvenient. I love eating sandwiches for lunch, but if I ate a whole sandwich now, I'd be incapacitated for the rest of the day.

I've discussed this problem with several doctors, and they haven't been of much help. I'm uncertain whether cortisol is the problem. I actually have high urinary cortisol, not low cortisol. I will continue to try to figure out what's causing this. If I ever get to the bottom of this, I'll let you know.

Sarah

 

Re: Fatigue after eating?

Posted by Regis Harold on October 18, 2005, at 5:36:33

In reply to Re: Fatigue after eating? » Regis Harold, posted by Sarah T. on October 17, 2005, at 22:13:03

Sarah - I'm sorry to hear that you are having similar difficulties.

Now that I recall, I did get some blood work done and it appears that my blood cortisol is fairly normal (actually smack dab in the middle of the reference range). That is one of the reasons why I discounted hypoadrenia.

Right now I am looking into controlling amino acid ratios in the blood as Teck mentioned. I have done a small amount of research in the past about the interaction between eating and blood hormone levels. There have been a few articles regarding CCK that have piqued my interest, but it doesn't appear that there has been enough research done on it to construct a model that is helpful just yet. I think a lot more research has been done on the relationship between insulin release and amino acid ratios.

The past couple days I have eaten mainly proteinaceous diets during the day. I have felt somewhat better. I am going to continue eating protein-rich diets during the day, and perhaps add tyrosine to my morning meals as it is a precusor to dopamine (and norepinephrine), competes with tryptophan for the same transport protein, and is an amino acid that is cleared from the blood during rises in insuline levels.

If it is the case that I am sensitive to the effects of insulin to amino acid ratios, then adding tyrosine should be of added benefit. That's the assumption at least. I'll let you know how I progress.

Thanks,
Regis

> Hi Regis.
>
> I have the same problem. It started about a year and half or two years ago. I've experimented with different foods, and that doesn't seem to help. Until this problem began, I used to eat mostly protein-based meals during the day, and I'd reserve the bulk of my carbohydrates for the night-time, when I want to be tired and groggy anyway. That helped until about two years ago.
>
> The only thing that helps a little bit is to eat five or six tiny meals a day rather than several medium-sized or large ones. The trouble is, the meals have to be really tiny. For example, I can eat one protein bar or a container of yogurt or a small serving of cottage cheese or meat. This is so inconvenient. I love eating sandwiches for lunch, but if I ate a whole sandwich now, I'd be incapacitated for the rest of the day.
>
> I've discussed this problem with several doctors, and they haven't been of much help. I'm uncertain whether cortisol is the problem. I actually have high urinary cortisol, not low cortisol. I will continue to try to figure out what's causing this. If I ever get to the bottom of this, I'll let you know.
>
> Sarah

 

Re: Fatigue after eating? » Regis Harold

Posted by Sarah T. on October 19, 2005, at 1:14:03

In reply to Re: Fatigue after eating?, posted by Regis Harold on October 18, 2005, at 5:36:33

> Sarah - I'm sorry to hear that you are having similar difficulties.> Now that I recall, I did get some blood work done and it appears that my blood cortisol is fairly normal (actually smack dab in the middle of the reference range). That is one of the reasons why I discounted hypoadrenia.>>

Hi Regis,
According to one of my doctors, the blood test for cortisol is probably the least useful of the various cortisol tests. Do you remember what time of day you had that blood test? The problem with a single blood test for cortisol is that it will tell you what the cortisol is only at the moment the blood was drawn. If you have the 24-hour urinary cortisol, that will indicate whether your total daily amount is normal or not. Another test that is more definitive is the salivary cortisol test, which is usually done late at night, around 11 p.m. Cortisol is supposed to be lower then. Have you seen an endocrinologist about the problem with fatigue after eating?

Thanks for mentioning the amino acid ratios. I want to read up on that. I think I have to be very meticulous about what I eat now. Today I was so hungry in the late afternoon. I really wanted to eat a normal-sized dinner, but I knew if I did, I'd have to lie down for several hours, and I wouldn't get anything done. I've wondered whether this might be some pre-diabetic state. My blood sugar has been normal in blood tests, and I did buy some Clinistix, which I use once or twice a month, just to be sure everything is OK. Actually, I have to use them for my cat, too!

Do you know of any good websites for a discussion of the amino acid ratios?

Thanks.

Sarah

 

Re: Fatigue after eating? What it was for me

Posted by Ryan2828 on October 19, 2005, at 6:28:27

In reply to Re: Fatigue after eating? What it was for me, posted by shasling on October 17, 2005, at 9:52:08

I have the same exact problem that the thread starter has, but I have always blamed it on the Effexor which I have been on for 4 years so drowsiness after meals would seem strange. My solution to this problem I encounter on a daily basis is to boost myself up on coffee. The feeling I get after I eat food at my lunch break is NO Motivation at all to do anything. I am constantly scratching my eyes and rubbing them wondering why I feel so foggy, lethargic, and lazy. Soon to realize that I am now getting addicted to more and more caffiene in order to cope, but in the end that is making it worse


Can someone please explain how to get hypoglycemic testing done and what tests do you go through? How do you get thryoid testing done?? and blood work??

 

Re: Fatigue after eating? What it was for me

Posted by Regis Harold on October 19, 2005, at 9:05:15

In reply to Re: Fatigue after eating? What it was for me, posted by Ryan2828 on October 19, 2005, at 6:28:27

Hey all,

I have to run off to work soon, so I'll post more later.

Ryan I just wanted to say that you should talk to your primary care physician about your concerns and have him do a blood glucose tolerance test (it should be done over the cours of several hours. you drink a sweet beverage after fasting overnight, then your blood is drawn every hour over the next few hours). Also, ask for tests for an underactive thyroid, and a coritsol test (the kind that Sarah recommended).

Sarah, I had a one blood cortisol test in the middle of the day. I'll look into getting the saliva cortisol test you mentioned. I have a book on adrenal fatigue that suggests this - thank you very much for reminding me. I haven't worked with an endocrinologist yet. I am working it though. Hopefully I will be talking to one soon.

Yesterday was a hard day for me. Things were good in the morning. I ate a breakfast solely of eggs. Then I ate lunch, which was my downfall. I hate roast chicken (that's it!). And I had a good amount of it. I was knocked out for the entire day, literally. Today I am going to try to eat in little itty bitty tiny portions (like a strip of chicken hour or so), and we'll see how that goes.

Regis

> I have the same exact problem that the thread starter has, but I have always blamed it on the Effexor which I have been on for 4 years so drowsiness after meals would seem strange. My solution to this problem I encounter on a daily basis is to boost myself up on coffee. The feeling I get after I eat food at my lunch break is NO Motivation at all to do anything. I am constantly scratching my eyes and rubbing them wondering why I feel so foggy, lethargic, and lazy. Soon to realize that I am now getting addicted to more and more caffiene in order to cope, but in the end that is making it worse
>
>
> Can someone please explain how to get hypoglycemic testing done and what tests do you go through? How do you get thryoid testing done?? and blood work??

> I have the same exact problem that the thread starter has, but I have always blamed it on the Effexor which I have been on for 4 years so drowsiness after meals would seem strange. My solution to this problem I encounter on a daily basis is to boost myself up on coffee. The feeling I get after I eat food at my lunch break is NO Motivation at all to do anything. I am constantly scratching my eyes and rubbing them wondering why I feel so foggy, lethargic, and lazy. Soon to realize that I am now getting addicted to more and more caffiene in order to cope, but in the end that is making it worse
>
>
> Can someone please explain how to get hypoglycemic testing done and what tests do you go through? How do you get thryoid testing done?? and blood work??

 

Re: Fatigue after eating? » Regis Harold

Posted by Jakeman on October 20, 2005, at 21:32:42

In reply to Re: Fatigue after eating?, posted by Regis Harold on October 16, 2005, at 16:11:08

> Jake,
>
> Yup. What you're describing sounds very familiar to me. Hopefully the reason for this happening to you is more easily determined than what is happening to me.
>
> It might be a good idea to get a blood glucose tolerance test, even if your doctor(s) doesn't think it's necessary. As you are try to determine what the cause of your issues is, it helps to eliminate as many possible causes as possible. And who knows, you might in fact be hypoglycemic.
>
> I have also gotten a couple sleep studies done. Turns out that I don't have sleep apnea, which is a fairly common cause of daytime sleepiness. Although it turns out that I don't have sleep apnea, I'm glad I had the sleep studies done so I don't have to worry about going down that path and can focus my time and energies on other more probably causes of my condition.
>
> Jake, have you tried anything specifically figure out/cure your condition? Have you taken any tests, or tried any remedies?
>
> Regis
>

Regis,

I've had a number of tests, but not the fasting blood glucose test; I probably should get it done as well. I've had thyroid and other hormones tested (I'm on the low end for HGH). I've had a battery of allergy tests, all negative. I've had a sleep study and was diagnosed with mild sleep apnea. I tried a cpap machine for a while and couldn't sleep with it. Since then I've learned to sleep on my side. While my poor quality sleep certainly contributes to my problem, I feel there are other bio-chemical factors involved. With me it's not so much the desire to sleep after eating, but a rapid decline into foggy thinking and depression.

For the time being I'm tired (and broke) of seeing doctors so I'm just watching my diet and living with it.

warm regards ~Jake

 

Re: Fatigue after eating? Was antacid for me

Posted by GlennInMinneapolis on December 30, 2006, at 11:39:44

In reply to Re: Fatigue after eating?, posted by Regis Harold on October 16, 2005, at 16:00:50

I have been taking an antacid medication for GERD for a number of years, and started experiencing the exact thing that Regis has described: drowsy, foggy fatigue after eating in the moring, lasting until evening before bed.

Also, I would get light headed exercising, which would get worse right when I stopped exercising, such as waiting for a streetlight to cross a stredet while brisk walking.

Well, stopping the Prevacid cleared this up. I tried it 2 times, an each time, after restarting the Prevacid, the fatigue and lightheadedness problems returned soon.

It happened with both Prevacid and Prilosec for me.

 

Re: Fatigue after eating?

Posted by FredPotter on January 2, 2007, at 17:07:59

In reply to Fatigue after eating?, posted by Regis Harold on October 15, 2005, at 15:46:45

I had this too. It was accompanied by inner restlessness. When I gave up drinking beer all the time, it diminished considerably

 

Re: Fatigue after eating is HUMAN NATURE » UgottaHaveHope

Posted by yxibow on January 7, 2007, at 0:21:05

In reply to Re: Fatigue after eating is HUMAN NATURE, posted by UgottaHaveHope on October 15, 2005, at 23:42:54

> everyone gets a little tired after eating. everyone. you know what i'm talking about, about an hour after lunch when you start yawning a little bit at work. then you go to the soda machine and load up on caffeine to make it to the 5 o'clock bell.
>
> i have found the only way to minimize this fatigue after eating ... is to eat healthier. when you eat a lot or certain foods, your body uses most available energy for digestion, hence the fatigue.
>
> probably the best remedy not eating three big meals per day, but 6-8 small meals over the day. light meals. it is supposed to also help you lose weight, as your metabolism is steadied throughout the day.


I missed the first post because PB seems to have eaten it, but at least "ordinary tiredness" is normal after eating. Some stores in Spain and Italy and Mexico take siesta breaks and open later in the day.

Digestion is a natural sleep inducer, as blood is utilized in the process and pulled away from the brain, causing drowsiness.

http://www.parenthood.com/articles.html?article_id=7801

-- Jay

 

Re: Fatigue after eating?

Posted by Sagar on August 25, 2007, at 23:30:35

In reply to Fatigue after eating?, posted by Regis Harold on October 15, 2005, at 15:46:45

I had the same symptoms. I did a thorough test and it was found I had a YEAST infection which made me light headed and foggy especially after lunch.
Apart from yeast infection, I was allergic to wheat, soya (almost all deserts, ice cream, chocolate, chinese food has soya lecithin), corn, etc. I feel so much better now that I did a yeast elimination diet and avoiding all these foods.

Please get yourself tested ASAP for these.

 

Re: Fatigue after eating?

Posted by Mimim on March 2, 2008, at 15:22:11

In reply to Re: Fatigue after eating? » Regis Harold, posted by Sarah T. on October 19, 2005, at 1:14:03

Regis,
Did you ever figure out what was wrong with you?
I have the same problems.

 

Re: Fatigue after eating? » Mimim

Posted by sagar on April 2, 2008, at 8:40:34

In reply to Re: Fatigue after eating?, posted by Mimim on March 2, 2008, at 15:22:11

Mimim,
I can bet u have some sort of food allergy OR a leaky gut syndrome. my problems resolved after I eliminated ALL grains and cereals. Start by checking if you have candida, gluten intolerance or leaky gut. All 3 are different but cause very smilar symptoms.


> Regis,
> Did you ever figure out what was wrong with you?
> I have the same problems.

 

Re: Fatigue after eating?

Posted by CougarAZ on July 16, 2008, at 19:40:02

In reply to Re: Fatigue after eating?, posted by Regis Harold on October 16, 2005, at 16:11:08

HERE IS YOUR ANSWER to FATIGUE AFTER EATING. I had the same problem and when I'm not careful it raises it's ugly head. It's called insulin sensitivity. You need to be diagnosed by an endrochrinologist. Tell them what you suspect and ask them to perform the tests.

The cure: Don't eat carbohydrates. Eat very low glycemic foods. There is a small pocket book that you can carry with you to measure the GI of foods called New Glucose Revolution: Shopper's guide to GI Values 2008. Don't eat anything over a reading of 50. You can also do a refine the culprit foods by getting a glucose monitor and eat an large portion of just one food at a sitting (all by itself) then after waiting the appropriate length of time (and when you start to feel sleepy) take a reading. You'll find out the foods that make you sleepy. Stay away from them and you'll be fine. There is no pill or quick fix. Eliminating the foods that spike your blood sugar (which causes the sleepiness) will eliminate the sleepiness. After 30 days you should have it under control.

If you don't control your diet it will eventually turn into diabetis. I found that if I mistakenly eat something that makes me feel sleepy I sometimes can counter act the sleepiness by immediately eating some protein and walk briskly for 15 minutes. Both of those will bring down the spike in blood sugar which the offending foods just caused.

There was a Doctor I consulted with 25 years ago, long before the work Insulin Sensitivity was coined. His name is Theron Randolph. He is now deceised. He felt depression, sleepiness or Chronic Fatigue was caused by food allergies. He was on the right track...but it's the High Glycemic Foods that cause your sleepiness, depression and CFS and a host of other diseases. There are a great many books written on Insulin Sensitivty: Syndrom X, Sugar Blues, The best book I hqave found is the New Glucose Revolution. The best diet that most closely controls our problem is the Southbeach Diet. I've been on a modified version of it for 6 months. The dietitian I was referred to, told me to eat beans, sweet potatos or brown Rice combined with protein and green veggies. She too, was on the right track, but beans, sweet potations and brown rice all make my bood sugar go up to around 200. So even she did not know what she was talking about. Eliminating most all carbohydrates from my diet is extremely difficult, but is the ONLY cure for this disease. The benefit was I 15 pounds in 6 months.

You have to figure this all out for yourself. I still get very sleepy after some meals, like this morning: I ate 2 gluten free waffles with Ricotta cheese and lots of blue berries. After a morning far away from my books, I had all I could do to keep my eyes open. When I got home I looked in the GI book and discovered 2 pancakes combines with lots of blueberries takes me way over the 30 gr. of allowable carbohydrates that you are allowed at each meal. Now if I eat just one waffle I'm OK. If I want another I must wait 3 hours do I don't go over the 30 grams of carbs allowed every 3 hours. Every time I get sleepy, I can usually find the culprit by looking everying I just digested in my GI values book...and sure enough one of the foods I just ate, or a combination of different foods (like fruit combined with cheese and rice) or Potatoes with rice and peas) or (pizza, bread and grains which are big culprits unless you only eat a slice - but it takes 2 to make a sandwich)will send you to you bed in about 10 minutes.

Good luck and once you try this and find out things I might not be aware of, please post.

I haven't learned all there is to know yet...I'm still struggling. I don't know anyone else who suffers from this as badly as I do. I spent years and years going to general practitions, nutritionists, alternative medicine doctors.....about 5 years ago I went to an endrochrinologist and told him what I suspected and he told me I needed a psychiatrist.
But just about 5 months ago, when I thought I was going to die from too much fatigue, sleepiness etc, I looked in the phone book for a Female endrochrinologist from India who I believe to be the best doctors in the world. She suspected what was wrong with me after talking to me for 10 minutes. Her blood tests confirmed it: Insulin Sensitivity. The East Indian doctors are better schooled than the USA doctors...so my recommendation is to find a female East Indian Endrochrinologist to either find out if IS is the culprit or pre-diabetis or none of the above.

 

CougarAZ

Posted by brooke484 on July 16, 2008, at 22:57:05

In reply to Re: Fatigue after eating?, posted by CougarAZ on July 16, 2008, at 19:40:02

Could you tell me what kind of bloodwork she did? I'm supposed to get some kind of glucose test done - the one where you drink some liquid and then wait 3 hours. I forget the name though. My doctor thinks I may have some of these issues also.

Thanks,

brooke

 

Re: Fatigue after eating?

Posted by Mimim on July 17, 2008, at 14:02:37

In reply to Re: Fatigue after eating?, posted by CougarAZ on July 16, 2008, at 19:40:02

> HERE IS YOUR ANSWER to FATIGUE AFTER EATING. I had the same problem and when I'm not careful it raises it's ugly head. It's called insulin sensitivity. You need to be diagnosed by an endrochrinologist. Tell them what you suspect and ask them to perform the tests.
>
> The cure: Don't eat carbohydrates. Eat very low glycemic foods. There is a small pocket book that you can carry with you to measure the GI of foods called New Glucose Revolution: Shopper's guide to GI Values 2008. Don't eat anything over a reading of 50. You can also do a refine the culprit foods by getting a glucose monitor and eat an large portion of just one food at a sitting (all by itself) then after waiting the appropriate length of time (and when you start to feel sleepy) take a reading. You'll find out the foods that make you sleepy. Stay away from them and you'll be fine. There is no pill or quick fix. Eliminating the foods that spike your blood sugar (which causes the sleepiness) will eliminate the sleepiness. After 30 days you should have it under control.
>
> If you don't control your diet it will eventually turn into diabetis. I found that if I mistakenly eat something that makes me feel sleepy I sometimes can counter act the sleepiness by immediately eating some protein and walk briskly for 15 minutes. Both of those will bring down the spike in blood sugar which the offending foods just caused.
>
> There was a Doctor I consulted with 25 years ago, long before the work Insulin Sensitivity was coined. His name is Theron Randolph. He is now deceised. He felt depression, sleepiness or Chronic Fatigue was caused by food allergies. He was on the right track...but it's the High Glycemic Foods that cause your sleepiness, depression and CFS and a host of other diseases. There are a great many books written on Insulin Sensitivty: Syndrom X, Sugar Blues, The best book I hqave found is the New Glucose Revolution. The best diet that most closely controls our problem is the Southbeach Diet. I've been on a modified version of it for 6 months. The dietitian I was referred to, told me to eat beans, sweet potatos or brown Rice combined with protein and green veggies. She too, was on the right track, but beans, sweet potations and brown rice all make my bood sugar go up to around 200. So even she did not know what she was talking about. Eliminating most all carbohydrates from my diet is extremely difficult, but is the ONLY cure for this disease. The benefit was I 15 pounds in 6 months.
>
> You have to figure this all out for yourself. I still get very sleepy after some meals, like this morning: I ate 2 gluten free waffles with Ricotta cheese and lots of blue berries. After a morning far away from my books, I had all I could do to keep my eyes open. When I got home I looked in the GI book and discovered 2 pancakes combines with lots of blueberries takes me way over the 30 gr. of allowable carbohydrates that you are allowed at each meal. Now if I eat just one waffle I'm OK. If I want another I must wait 3 hours do I don't go over the 30 grams of carbs allowed every 3 hours. Every time I get sleepy, I can usually find the culprit by looking everying I just digested in my GI values book...and sure enough one of the foods I just ate, or a combination of different foods (like fruit combined with cheese and rice) or Potatoes with rice and peas) or (pizza, bread and grains which are big culprits unless you only eat a slice - but it takes 2 to make a sandwich)will send you to you bed in about 10 minutes.
>
> Good luck and once you try this and find out things I might not be aware of, please post.
>
> I haven't learned all there is to know yet...I'm still struggling. I don't know anyone else who suffers from this as badly as I do. I spent years and years going to general practitions, nutritionists, alternative medicine doctors.....about 5 years ago I went to an endrochrinologist and told him what I suspected and he told me I needed a psychiatrist.
> But just about 5 months ago, when I thought I was going to die from too much fatigue, sleepiness etc, I looked in the phone book for a Female endrochrinologist from India who I believe to be the best doctors in the world. She suspected what was wrong with me after talking to me for 10 minutes. Her blood tests confirmed it: Insulin Sensitivity. The East Indian doctors are better schooled than the USA doctors...so my recommendation is to find a female East Indian Endrochrinologist to either find out if IS is the culprit or pre-diabetis or none of the above.
>
>

I went to see an endocrine, did some tests(5hr glucose tolerance test), and found out that I too have Insulin Sensitivity. Right now I am working on the carb/protein ratio. Just as you said, it works when I get it right. The problem is that I play sports-need a lot of carbs.

I have been struggling with this thing for over 2 years now. IS made me measearable. I lost 20lbs in the process-I am so skinny! I hope I get it under control. Because if IS, host of other deseases invaded. High blood pressure, frequent colds, and depression. I am slowly getting better though.

The only other problem is lack of sleep. I have to re-learn how to sleep. I spent so many sleepless nights wondering what was wrong with me. The doctor said that lack of sleep does not help at all. I REALLY HOPE THAT I RECOVER FROM THIS! My life sucked in the last 2 years(still does). Best of luck everyone fighting this.

 

Re: CougarAZ

Posted by CougarAZ on July 17, 2008, at 15:59:05

In reply to CougarAZ, posted by brooke484 on July 16, 2008, at 22:57:05

> Could you tell me what kind of bloodwork she did? I'm supposed to get some kind of glucose test done - the one where you drink some liquid and then wait 3 hours. I forget the name though. My doctor thinks I may have some of these issues also.
>
> Thanks,
>
> brooke

Brooke - yes, that is the correct blood test to use, but it's important what results within that blood test the doctor orders. If it goes for 5 hours it will tell you if it is hypoglycemia (I think that is also important to know). If it goes for 3 hours, the doc is probably testing your diabetes. My test which was three hours tested (and I am reading from the results)
FTT
ACTH
C-Peptide
Insulin Stim
Cortisol Stim

It was the insulin stim on mine that was high at the 2 hour mark. I do know that
While I am clear that I have Insulin Sensitivity even after reading all the books on it, I'm confused. After eating certain things I get so sleepy I feel like I'm going to die. Today I ate a Healthy choice Fudge Bar. It's approved by weight watchers, only has 16 carbs which is within the 30 you are allowed at each meal and has 4 grams of protein which is a good ratio carbs to protein, but within 20 minutes I was so sleepy I could not function. I am having a great deal of difficulty determining what exactly it is that makes me sleepy. This morning I had eggs mixed with zuchini, peppers, onions and put salsa on it and I felt like a tiger until I ate the bar at 2pm. Does anyone know how to solve the "sleepy" puzzle?

 

Re: CougarAZ

Posted by brooke484 on July 17, 2008, at 22:06:43

In reply to Re: CougarAZ, posted by CougarAZ on July 17, 2008, at 15:59:05

The doctor who manages my medication wants me to have the 3 hour test, but I think after I speak with my family doctor, he'll order even more tests, maybe even the 5 hour one. I also have blood pressure issues that I believe are contributing to my fatigue, weakness, confusion, etc. Tonight when I measured it, it was 74/42.

I'm glad you found some answers. I'm going on 15 years with depression, anxiety, fatigue, etc. I would love to find some answers myself. Maybe these tests will show something.

Thanks for sharing your story.

brooke

 

Re: CougarAZ

Posted by HuskyDog on October 10, 2008, at 23:17:31

In reply to Re: CougarAZ, posted by CougarAZ on July 17, 2008, at 15:59:05

> > Could you tell me what kind of bloodwork she did? I'm supposed to get some kind of glucose test done - the one where you drink some liquid and then wait 3 hours. I forget the name though. My doctor thinks I may have some of these issues also.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > brooke
>
> Brooke - yes, that is the correct blood test to use, but it's important what results within that blood test the doctor orders. If it goes for 5 hours it will tell you if it is hypoglycemia (I think that is also important to know). If it goes for 3 hours, the doc is probably testing your diabetes. My test which was three hours tested (and I am reading from the results)
> FTT
> ACTH
> C-Peptide
> Insulin Stim
> Cortisol Stim
>
> It was the insulin stim on mine that was high at the 2 hour mark. I do know that
> While I am clear that I have Insulin Sensitivity even after reading all the books on it, I'm confused. After eating certain things I get so sleepy I feel like I'm going to die. Today I ate a Healthy choice Fudge Bar. It's approved by weight watchers, only has 16 carbs which is within the 30 you are allowed at each meal and has 4 grams of protein which is a good ratio carbs to protein, but within 20 minutes I was so sleepy I could not function. I am having a great deal of difficulty determining what exactly it is that makes me sleepy. This morning I had eggs mixed with zuchini, peppers, onions and put salsa on it and I felt like a tiger until I ate the bar at 2pm. Does anyone know how to solve the "sleepy" puzzle?
>

Even though the Healthy Choice Fudge Bar might have relatively few carbohydrates, the glycemic index (GI) is high because there isn't much fat or fiber to delay absorption. Most packaged and processed foods have a high GI, so you might try getting your carbohydrates from more natural, unrefined foods like fresh fruits and vegetables. Even refined foods that are typically seen as healthy (e.g. 100% whole wheat bread) often have high GI's and could cause insulin spikes and fluctuations in blood sugar.

 

Re: Fatigue after eating? 4 years on

Posted by ARVI on May 20, 2009, at 4:25:52

In reply to Fatigue after eating?, posted by Regis Harold on October 15, 2005, at 15:46:45

I have this problem of excessive sleep and tiredness from feb 2005. so many tests but no real findings but I live in hope. Last 4 months, I started keeping daily record of what I do, how I feel, when my energy goes low etc. etc. I think I am a with a good doctor now who is trying to help. If anyone has gone through this sleep problem / helped recover, please comment on my current thought process:
* Eating carb food every 3 hours is important. i have to eat something heavy - being hungry has much a very negative effect which is impossible to recover.
* I have to careful of what I eat from morning till dinner. Anything for dinner is fine but I prefer to take a very heavy carb meal and some milk just before I go to sleep. I just don't want to have a light / disturbed sleep
* I tried eating protien food for e.g. just eggs but after eating 3-4 eggs, my brain still sends signal that I am starving and have no energy to function - so protien alone as diet is out. I mix it now
* I can't eat oily / fried / packaged food. It just knocks me down completely. At home I cook food with olive oil - that seems to be ok.
* No ciggarettes or alchol - increases the fatigue for next couple of days
* jogging / brisk walk helps in the morning but not on empty stomach. Must eat 4 slices of bread with milk or 4 spoons of OAT with milk
* sometimes I feel that sex increases the fatigue but not sure as sometimes it makes me feel good.
* Fatigue levels are very high if not had at least 6 hours good night sleep
* In 2003 I moved to a place which rarely got sunlight plus I work in IT so no chance of sunlight. My Vitamin D levels went very low (15), on 6 week medication - its six weeks now, have to check this week. Doc says this may be causing the fatigue. there is no problem with the bones / calcium level etc.
* Trial & Errors already done in the last 4 years - atypical depression & idiopathic hypersomnia. several tests done with normal results: GTT, sleep apnea, CBC, brain scan, colonscopy. Now possible suspect vitamin d deficiency or adrenal related fatigue

My symptons: when the sleep attack hits (I still don't know exactly why) - I can't focus, I feel sleepy, alertness dips considerably. The only way it comes back to normal is to sleep for 2-3 hours during the day time but not on empty stomach.

 

Re: Fatigue after eating? 4 years on

Posted by desolationrower on May 20, 2009, at 14:14:57

In reply to Re: Fatigue after eating? 4 years on, posted by ARVI on May 20, 2009, at 4:25:52

fewer carbs unless you do a lot of exercise

-d/r

 

Re: Fatigue after eating? 4 years on » ARVI

Posted by MsFanatsic on August 24, 2009, at 1:19:56

In reply to Re: Fatigue after eating? 4 years on, posted by ARVI on May 20, 2009, at 4:25:52

Hi - I'm new here and joined because I have the same problem with fatigue after eating.

I'm not under medical supervision and trying to sort it out myself.

Cutting carbs helps and so does eating alkaline foods. But really the cause is not that easy to isolate. Basically though it seems to be commected with insulin sensitivity.

But being so fatigued after eating does make life hard and your brain cannot work at optimum potential. I'm very thin because I eat so little so I can stay awake to function.

 

Re: Fatigue after eating? 4 years on

Posted by SLS on August 24, 2009, at 5:25:54

In reply to Re: Fatigue after eating? 4 years on » ARVI, posted by MsFanatsic on August 24, 2009, at 1:19:56

> Hi - I'm new here and joined because I have the same problem with fatigue after eating.

I imagine you've looked at hyperinsulinism and hypoglycemia.


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