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Does Cytomel work With Synthroid?

Posted by Phillipa on July 7, 2007, at 12:07:02

Geez googled the rating for cytomel and not good. Say hair falls out and causes heart disease. Should I go back to just synthroid? Why this messed up thyroid so tired never was before. Love Phillipa ps I just don't get it.

 

Re: Does Cytomel work With Synthroid? » Phillipa

Posted by Glydin on July 7, 2007, at 19:44:28

In reply to Does Cytomel work With Synthroid?, posted by Phillipa on July 7, 2007, at 12:07:02

> Geez googled the rating for cytomel and not good. Say hair falls out and causes heart disease. Should I go back to just synthroid?

~~~ My suggestion for a "should" is that maybe you "should" stop googling. Hmm.. TOTAL stranger's input versus what your doc advises?

 

Re: Does Cytomel work With Synthroid? » Glydin

Posted by Phillipa on July 7, 2007, at 22:06:25

In reply to Re: Does Cytomel work With Synthroid? » Phillipa, posted by Glydin on July 7, 2007, at 19:44:28

Problem with that office is they can't get their info right. The first person RN who called me said to take a whole pill of synthroid everyday now . I was using samples they provided but they did call in cytomel and synthroid and guess what the synthroid is still a half a pill one day a week which to me makes no sense as 5mcg of cytomel is so miniscule. And for two weeks been taking a full pill everyday since I was told to do that. I see no sense in taking a half of a pill if my thyroid jumped so high. Love Phillipa

 

Re: » Phillipa

Posted by Glydin on July 8, 2007, at 8:21:56

In reply to Re: Does Cytomel work With Synthroid? » Glydin, posted by Phillipa on July 7, 2007, at 22:06:25

It's very unfortunate and unacceptable, IMO, that you get conflicting and unclear info about your dosing. I honestly believe you have the fortitude to address that with your doc.

My concern for you is the traits I once saw in myself. I was able to convince myself of any number of untoward events due to the info I gleamed from 'net immersion research. Yes, information is powerful and we should be informed consumers. There are well intentioned and true personal accounts but IMO, most are not going to be positive. Folks generally vent about stuff that did not turn out well. So, my concern is not so much about the specifics of your treatment - as I believe that is a very personal individual plan that happens face to face. My concern is: I don't want to continue to see you get very bogged and stuck into second guessing things that doesn't appear to lead you to a discussion with your prescriber - asking here: "Should I take _____ or not?". For me, that second guessing only led to foregoing treatments that turned out to be good for me. That being said, I'm on the 'net and giving you advice too - so, you can feel free to dismiss my musings also. (Smile)

 

Re: » Glydin

Posted by Phillipa on July 8, 2007, at 12:31:50

In reply to Re: » Phillipa, posted by Glydin on July 8, 2007, at 8:21:56

Never but when you call the doc three times get three nurses and three different directions. Then last night picked up prescriptions that were called in and been using samples of synthroid provided by them now the RX was called in for keeping synthroid the same and the person RN I talked to said to take a whole pill daily this is for the old RX a half one day a week and only change addition of 5mcg of cytomel. Love Phillipa

 

Re: » Phillipa

Posted by Honore on July 8, 2007, at 12:49:11

In reply to Re: » Glydin, posted by Phillipa on July 8, 2007, at 12:31:50

Phillipa, when I've discussed dosages with the doctor or nurses, and the bottle info conflicts, I follow the dosage pattern that I discussed in person. Maybe the pharmacist got confused.

The other option is to call the doctor and talk with someone and find out which is correct.

I really agree with Glydin, that the information you're getting online isn't helping. All meds have side effects-- the question really is whether you need the meds.

If you don't trust this doctor, maybe you need to get another one. If you do trust him/her, you could get another appointment to straighten out your concerns, and also the dosage levels. If the dosages don't seem correct to you, you should do one or the other-- since it seems as though you did need some change in your thyroid meds.

Sorry this is so mixed up, but it' s important to get it straight, so you can get better.

Honore

 

Re: » Honore

Posted by Phillipa on July 8, 2007, at 20:13:23

In reply to Re: » Phillipa, posted by Honore on July 8, 2007, at 12:49:11

I agree with both you and Glyndin. When I picked up the prescriptions the parmacist said she was the one to take the message and it definitely was ordered as a whole pill. Google Endocrinologists in Charlotte NC and you will see Dr. Kramer and most of the others focus is diabetes he one of the only ones that lists thyroid and he lectures at the medical school here. Also can google Mecklenburgmedicalgroup.org. You will find him and Gary Rolbans there. Love Phillipa

 

Re: drug interaction web site

Posted by Zyprexa on July 11, 2007, at 15:43:03

In reply to Does Cytomel work With Synthroid?, posted by Phillipa on July 7, 2007, at 12:07:02

Try this link, it free, and tells all the interactions of different meds, etc...

https://www.epocrates.com/sessionManager.do?referurl=/online.do&refernext=https://online.epocrates.com

Zyprexa

 

Re: Does Cytomel work With Synthroid?

Posted by rocklobsterwoman on July 12, 2007, at 4:42:52

In reply to Re: » Honore, posted by Phillipa on July 8, 2007, at 20:13:23

This is the first time I have posted on this site, in fact on any medical site. So I may be out of sequence, for I am a bit lost on of where some of these dialogues start. But that won't prevent me from throwing in my 2 cents here. I've been googling my eyeballs out the past week or so, while withdrawaling from Effexor XR-cold turkey! Somehow I ended up here and what caught my eye was your inquiry into Synthroid and T3 combo. I have 16 books on thyroid and I am somewhat of an "expert"-not saying much-at least compared to the idiots I have been seeing for hypothyroidism that have the audacity to label themselves as "endocrinologists". The vast majority of them specialize in diabetes and "dabble" in thyroid treatment. It's also partly the fault of the insurance co's and largely due to the greedy pharmaceutical companies that have a stranglehold on thyroid treatment, with the inferior synthetic hormones, as opposed to natural Armour thyroid. It's MUCH more profitable to push T4 on people than what their body needs. Armour naturally has T4,T3,T2 and T1. T3 is the most metabolically active form. I was on a stingy amount of Levoxl and I begged for Armour, knowing from my research that it was better. After 3 yrs. of going to a bunch of idiots, I FINALLY found someone that prescribed Armour,increased the dose significantly, and my heart rate went DOWN. The nervousness went away that Levoxyl created-I'm much calmer now. Certainly, the fact that someone is at least giving you T3 is a good thing , but 5 mg is stingy

 

Re: Does Cytomel work With Synthroid? » rocklobsterwoman

Posted by Phillipa on July 12, 2007, at 20:39:36

In reply to Re: Does Cytomel work With Synthroid?, posted by rocklobsterwoman on July 12, 2007, at 4:42:52

How did you find someone to prescribe Armour what kind of a doc. Maybe the t3 is low as I have incredible anxiety but since the cytomel even more any idea why? I was on synthroid itself for ll years and my life stopped had to stop nursing and stay home. I'm 60 now maybe brittle bones and hair loss as side effects of cytomel from what I read this is a trial. Love Phillipa

 

Re: Does Cytomel work With Synthroid? » Phillipa

Posted by Rocklobsterwoman on July 14, 2007, at 2:12:50

In reply to Re: Does Cytomel work With Synthroid? » rocklobsterwoman, posted by Phillipa on July 12, 2007, at 20:39:36

I found a D.O., and since I've seen him, I am to understand that D.O's are more likely to prescribe Armour. It appears that D.O.'s are more integrative medicine in their approach. My experience is that they are more knowledgable about the body. Of course Naturopathic doctors are more likely to prescribe Armour. I found my D.O. on this site:

www.thyroid-info.com/

As you can see on the right hand side you can choose which state you want to find a doctor in.

I do know that after going on Armour and leaving Levoxyl and Cytomel in the dust, my "jittery" feelings have gone away.

Most doctors do not run enough tests and aren't even sure how to read the one's they do run.

I would definitely find a doctor through the site above. The way I found my doc is that I found the one that had the most and best reviews, and who would prescribe Armour; in fact my doc prefers Armour, because he is that rare doctor that has above average intelligence.

Google the hell out of Armour Thyroid and testimonials, etc.

Hope you find a good doc!!!!! :)

 

Re: Does Cytomel work With Synthroid? » Rocklobsterwoman

Posted by Phillipa on July 14, 2007, at 20:56:23

In reply to Re: Does Cytomel work With Synthroid? » Phillipa, posted by Rocklobsterwoman on July 14, 2007, at 2:12:50

Guess what this is my endo did I google wrong? Love Phillipa ps go to Charlotte not good at the copy and paste and Kramer is the one wanted Rolbans.

Aberdeen

Roger Waddell, MD, General Practitioner, Bonnie Brook Road, Aberdeen, (910) 944-7777. A reader shares the following; "He listens to patients fully, evaluates their symptoms as well as test results, and is willing to work with the patients when a particular line of treatment doesn’t seem to give the desired results. He has used T3 treatment as well as Armour Thyroid and Westhroid in treating my hypothyroidism."

A reader writes:
"He listens, and treats clinically" (Added Apr 06)

Arden

Dr. Flechas, Fibromyalgia, Arden, N.C. 828-687-2324. A reader writes: After first seeing me he noticed I had no body hair and very dry skin. I told him I was sick and he said yes you are and we will work to get you well. After being told for years nothing was wrong though the thyroid condition was known and I was on Synthroid nothing was done by the other doctor. I had lumps in throat and could not swallow Dr. Flechas listen and found the lumps to be the beginning of a goiter due to severe hypothyroidism. My metabolism was shutting down to lack of T3 and my meds were changed to Unithroid and T3 and iodine capsules to reduce the nodules in neck. It has worked great and the T3 gave me my energy back . This doctor really listens." (Added 2/03)

Asheville

David A. Hester endocrinologist, Asheville Endocrinology Consultants, PA750 Alliance Court Asheville, NC 28806 (828) 670-6812. A reader tells us, "For several years I was made to feel like a hypochondriac, even though I have been through a documented case of Graves disease, radioactive iodine, a 3-year anaphylactic allergic reaction, and diagnosed hypothyroidism. I then went for my first visit with this doctor and he encouraged me to research as much information as possible (unlike my family physician), treated me like a human being, never told me how fat I was, sympathized with me when I mentioned symptoms and pains, and told me that even when I reach "normality" per lab results if I was still experiencing hypothyroidism symptoms, he would work with me and possibly use T-3 meds to treat me. I just felt like I was taken seriously and that someone understood how I was feeling and CARED."

Another reader writes:
"I was very impressed with Dr. Hester's ability to deal with a patient who has done research on her disease. He was not offended at all when, at my last appointment, I brought up the subject of T3. I was not feeling better on just Levoxyl. He increased my dose of that medication and added Cytomel (5mg. 2x's per day) to treat the T3. He is very empathetic and truly seems to LISTEN to your concerns!" (Added Dec. 04)

A reader writes:
"I have just found your website and would like to comment on Dr. Hester. He has been my endocrinologist for 12 years now. From day one, he has listened to me first and foremost. He encourages me to try alternative/homeopathic treatments and research as much as possible to help improve my health. I have recommended him to many friends and all of them have thanked me. Before Dr. Hester, I was told by other doctor's that my levels were in the "normal" range. He told me that he was more concerned about my symptoms along with my test results as opposed to test results only. He will not shove your name in a pile with all the rest. You are unique and he will diagnose and treat you as such. I highly recommend him." (Added Dec. 2006)

Asheville

Ronald R. Parks, MD Integrative Medicine and Psychiatry 162 West Chestnut St, Asheville, NC 28801 828-298-7638 http://www.macrohealthmedicine.com. A Reader writes: "He takes the time necessary to look at all the factors contributing to the problems at hand. He uses the best testing available to get to the roots of problems and offers the appropriate treatments, including T-3 and T-4." (Added 11/02)

Asheville

John L. Wilson, Jr., M.D., F.A.A.E.M. holistic 1312 Patton Avenue, Asheville, N.C. 28806 phone# 828-252-9833 A reader shares, "In addition to my thyroid he found I had low B-12 levels and that my adrenals were stressed. He is very patient and willing to listen to what you have to say. He is also concerned with how you feel not just your lab results. He treats with T4 and T3 thyroid medicine."

Asheville

Lewis F. Bissell, Internal Medicine Nutrition, 440 Montford Ave., Asheville, N.C. 28801, 828-285-9355. A reader writes: "Dr. Bissell`s approach toward my hypothyroidism, is life saving for me, after 16 years of Synthroid, and Levoxyl I am finally feeling better and am on the road to a much healthier life, I`m using Naturethroid." (Added 4/04)

Banner Elk

Charles Wiley -- NO LONGER LISTED

Chapel Hill

Dr. David Ontjes -- NO LONGER LISTED

Charlotte

Enrico Belgrave, M.D. Internal Medicine Camryn Valley Pkwy Charlotte, NC 28211 704-770-3200 http://www.carolinas.org/facilities/cpn/introduction.nos?practice_id=30 A reader writes: "He takes a holistic approach to patient care. He has treated my hypothyroidism aggressively. He split my Armour into two dose and increased it until my symptoms were alleviated, virtually suppressing my TSH." (Added 2/03)

Charlotte

Dr. Gary Rolband, Endocrinologist, Mecklenburg Medical Group, Randolph Road Office, 704 365 0760. A reader writes: "After 'knowing' that I had a thyroid problem for more than 3 years, and being treated as a hypochondriac, I saw Dr. Rolband. He listened to all my symptoms, and did numerous tests to find that I had a B12 deficiency as well as a thyroid disease problem. Six months later, my Grave's disease was in full flower, and I had RAI therapy soon after. He made a huge difference by actually listening and saying that, " obviously something was making me feel this bad, and we were going to work until we figured out what that was."

Another reader recommends Dr. Rolband:
"He listens & is truly concerned!! He is willing to research if answers are not immediately clear." (added 1/04)

More praise from a reader for Dr. Rolband:
"I saw Dr. Rolband for a thyroid goiter and hypothyroidism that had been treated poorly in the past by 2 family physicians. Dr. Rolband was wonderful! He is working with me to treat my disease and listens to you. He doesn't make you feel like a constant complainer. He did numerous tests and spent over an hour with me. He is great!" (added 1/04)

Another reader writes:
"Dr Rolband has been by doctor for over 10 years. He listens! I have several diseases and he has been helpful with 90% of them. If he doesn't know the answer he is more than willing to help find a source that will help. He is always open to questions and new information. He is without a doubt the best physician I have ever encountered." (Added 6/05)

Charlotte

W. T. Geissinger, surgeon, Charlotte Surgical Group. 3535 Randolph Road Charlotte, NC 28211 704-364-8100. A reader tells us, "Dr. Geissinger is very thorough and explains in understandable terms his diagnosis and the treatment options, consequences, problems etc. He is very forthright and caring."

Another reader writes:
"Thorough, Caring, Compassionate" (Added 6/03)

Charlotte

G. Obi Uzomba -- NO LONGER LISTED (June 2006)

Charlotte

Norman Jack Kramer, Endocrinology, Mecklenburg Medical Group Randolph Road, NC, 704.3650760. A reader writes: "Dr. Kramer is extremely thorough, knowledgeable, and concerned. He did not rush through the exam but listened to my entire 10 year history and symptoms of Hashimoto's. He is very concerned and caring." (Added 6/05)

A reader writes:
"It great to have a Dr that slows down and takes the time to explain what is going on in my body. I would highly recommend Dr. Kramer and his great staff!" (Added Apr 06

 

Re: Does Cytomel work With Synthroid? » Rocklobsterwoman

Posted by Phillipa on July 14, 2007, at 20:57:44

In reply to Re: Does Cytomel work With Synthroid? » Phillipa, posted by Rocklobsterwoman on July 14, 2007, at 2:12:50

Rolband and Kramer are partners and endocrinologists and they don't answer phones hardest docs I've ever tried to contact. Love Phillipa

 

Re: Does Cytomel work With Synthroid?

Posted by Phillipa on July 14, 2007, at 21:25:10

In reply to Re: Does Cytomel work With Synthroid? » Rocklobsterwoman, posted by Phillipa on July 14, 2007, at 20:57:44

Why not babblemail me? Love Phillipa

 

Re: Does Cytomel work With Synthroid? » Phillipa

Posted by Rocklobsterwoman on July 16, 2007, at 4:45:11

In reply to Re: Does Cytomel work With Synthroid? » Rocklobsterwoman, posted by Phillipa on July 14, 2007, at 20:56:23

http://www.thyroid-infoinf.com/topdrs/northcarolina.htm

 

Re: Does Cytomel work With Synthroid? » Phillipa

Posted by Rocklobsterwoman on July 16, 2007, at 5:56:51

In reply to Re: Does Cytomel work With Synthroid? » Rocklobsterwoman, posted by Phillipa on July 14, 2007, at 20:56:23

I just looked at Charlotte, sent you a link to "copy and paste". There seems to be several individuals to choose from. Personally, I can recommend only ONE person, based on my empirical evidence, but he is in Phoenix, AZ.

You state that you are 60 yo. In a perfect world - money not being a hindrance - we would all have our MANY hormone levels tested and addressed appropriately. But, the insurance company/whores, along with the pharmaceutical company/whores wrongly think this is more profitable, as most short-sighted, unethical, greedy institutions surmise. It actually ends up costing them more! Yet, you and I, and numerous others suffer at the hands of their ineptitude and ignorance!!!!!! Oh well.

I mean, isn't it their job just to throw some T4 at you (one of the big names of course) and hope for the best, and when that doesn't do the trick, they just gaslight your symptoms. I mean, who the hell are you - just the person that resides in your body 24/7. Who are you to question these "gods"? I mean they have spent a WHOLE 10 minutes with you.

But why would one expect a so-called endocrinologist take into account the numerous hormones that are important to the healthful function of the human body. One would have to assume that an "endocrinologist" would be able to prescribe something other than Levoxyl and Synthroid, thus not being a GIANT WHORE for the pharmaceutical PIMPS.

I mean one would assume (God only knows why) that an "endocrinologist" would know the hormonal effects on the body.

I mean, who am I to question the genuis of the self-described "god's" that barely even know WHERE YOUR THYROID IS LOCATED, much less know how it FUNCTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Copy and paste": http://www.thyroid-info.com/topdrs/northcarolina.htm

It appears Dr. Weir has her fan base; at least she is open to prescribing T3. Most dr's are so entirely STUPID, they do not realize that this is what the body really needs, and if you do not convert T4 to T3, you have a high rT3, etc. Most endocrinologists are RETARDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND do not deserve the title of doctor, much less Endocrinologist.

Any SO-CALLED endocrinologists have the humility to read these posts and want to be educated about hypothyroidism, just send me a post.

You must decide what person you feel is most applicable to your individual needs, whom you most feel fits your needs.

Dr. Weir:

This doctor really listens to you and cares about your feelings as well as symptoms. She discusses treatment options with you and does not talk down to you. She changed my medication at my request - I had been wanting to try some Cytomel because I believed that it would make me feel better as well as control some of my symptoms that the Synthroid was not helping. She also did some of the most complete blood work that I have ever had done. I highly recommend this doctor!"

She is "doctoring the patient, not the lab".
Winston-Salem
Winston-Salem

Enrico Piva Alternative Medicine, General Practice, Allergy 1411 B Plaza West Rd, Winston-Salem, NC27106, 336-7600240 "Does Barnes tests, puts you on natural thyroid, then checks thyroid function."

Winston-Salem

Dr. Graham Erlacher, Shallowford Family Medical Center, Thyroid/hormones, 3641 Westgate Center Circle #B,NC 27103, 336-336-659-4646. A reader writes: "Dr. Erlacher spent time listening to my symptoms and my research. He suggested several options and we started with compounded my thyroid med to get just the right dose of T4/T3. I had spent a year and a half on Armour that ended up being a little too high in T3 for me and I couldn't get the exact right grams. He is now also helping me with my hormones. He's very personable and open." (Added 6/05)


 

Re: Does Cytomel work With Synthroid? » Phillipa

Posted by Rocklobsterwoman on July 16, 2007, at 15:57:09

In reply to Re: Does Cytomel work With Synthroid? » Rocklobsterwoman, posted by Phillipa on July 14, 2007, at 20:57:44

Why do you not try the many other doctors on the site?

 

Re: Does Cytomel work With Synthroid? » Rocklobsterwoman

Posted by Phillipa on July 16, 2007, at 19:26:45

In reply to Re: Does Cytomel work With Synthroid? » Phillipa, posted by Rocklobsterwoman on July 16, 2007, at 15:57:09

Well believe it not I am seeing one on the site Dr. Kramer and Dr. Rolband is his partner. You know what you read on the internet isn't always the case. Love Phillipa


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