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Least sedating benzo?

Posted by Johann on May 5, 2007, at 1:23:30

I moved from taking .5 mg of Klonopin at bed time, which was fine, to taking .5 mg 3/day. It made a real difference with my anxiety but made it hard to stay awake when I wasn't actively engaged in something. I've reduced the daytime amount to .25, but I still just want to rest--although I'm fine when I play tennis. I may be recuperating from the 1 1/2 mg, but I'm curious if anyone has data on which benzo is least sedating.
Thanks, Johann

 

GABA pills from health store (nm) » Johann

Posted by UgottaHaveHope on May 5, 2007, at 6:06:54

In reply to Least sedating benzo?, posted by Johann on May 5, 2007, at 1:23:30

 

Re: Least sedating benzo?

Posted by Phillipa on May 5, 2007, at 11:17:29

In reply to Least sedating benzo?, posted by Johann on May 5, 2007, at 1:23:30

Do you need them other than maybe at night? Love Phillipa

 

Re: Least sedating benzo?

Posted by cloudnine on May 5, 2007, at 12:26:47

In reply to Least sedating benzo?, posted by Johann on May 5, 2007, at 1:23:30

From personal experience
Clobazam (Frisium)no sedation at all, if taken aT NIGHT IT INTERFERS WITH SLEEP.
2 Bromazepam > also minimum sedation and reat for day use

 

Bromazepam (nm)

Posted by cloudnine on May 5, 2007, at 12:28:21

In reply to Least sedating benzo?, posted by Johann on May 5, 2007, at 1:23:30

 

Re: Least sedating benzo? » Johann

Posted by Quintal on May 5, 2007, at 13:02:44

In reply to Least sedating benzo?, posted by Johann on May 5, 2007, at 1:23:30

Xanax is often said to be the least sedating benzo at equivalent doses compared to other commonly used benzos.

Q

 

Re: Least sedating benzo? No comparative list?

Posted by Johann on May 5, 2007, at 15:59:48

In reply to Least sedating benzo?, posted by Johann on May 5, 2007, at 1:23:30

Thanks for your responses.

I was hoping to find a list comparing the various common benzos, but I can't come up with one in a web search.

For those of you taking Klonopin, did the sedation lessen over time? Do you find it getting in the way of your daily tasks? Because it has a longer half life, do you take one main dose at night?

Thanks, Johann

 

Re: Least sedating benzo? No comparative list? » Johann

Posted by Quintal on May 5, 2007, at 16:49:08

In reply to Re: Least sedating benzo? No comparative list?, posted by Johann on May 5, 2007, at 15:59:48

I don't think you'll be able to get one because sedation is so subjective and the differences between them aren't great enough to be able to chart it accurately.

>For those of you taking Klonopin, did the sedation lessen over time?

I can't really remember clearly but if you'd asked me at the time I'm certain I'd have told you it did. Looking back it seems I was fighting fatigue and drowsiness nearly all the time, but after a while I got so used to being impaired that it became almost normal and I was barely aware of it.

>Do you find it getting in the way of your daily tasks?

I found it easier to go about my daily life when anxiety was under control, so no not really, but my performance certainly wasn't as good as it could have been.

>Because it has a longer half life, do you take one main dose at night?

I usually divided my dose between morning and night.

Q

 

Re: Least sedating benzo? No comparative list?

Posted by Johann on May 5, 2007, at 17:03:51

In reply to Re: Least sedating benzo? No comparative list? » Johann, posted by Quintal on May 5, 2007, at 16:49:08

Thank you! Very helpful.

 

Re: Least sedating benzo? No comparative list? » Johann

Posted by cactus on May 5, 2007, at 23:27:46

In reply to Re: Least sedating benzo? No comparative list?, posted by Johann on May 5, 2007, at 17:03:51

Everyone is different, for me it was serax/serapax and ativan, they didn't sedate me at all.

 

Re: Least sedating benzo? » Johann

Posted by cmorhoun on May 7, 2007, at 13:43:37

In reply to Least sedating benzo?, posted by Johann on May 5, 2007, at 1:23:30

Ativan was the best for me but still sedating. GABA pills were hit or miss. Seemed like I built up a tolerance very quickly to GABA. L-Tryptophan can be very anxiolotic. Short lived effects though in my experience. But if you take it several times a day it may work well and also have an antidepresant effect. I'm currently trying a small dose of Lithium and so far it's very good. Slows things down without being tired. Lithium has a 24hr half life.

 

Re: Least sedating benzo?

Posted by Johann on May 7, 2007, at 14:32:45

In reply to Re: Least sedating benzo? » Johann, posted by cmorhoun on May 7, 2007, at 13:43:37

Thanks for your helpful response. I'm on 750 mg of lithium now, and while it's been great for my depression, it hasn't helped with anxiety, which appears to be the Holy Grail of mood problems, meaning that no one can get ahold of it. EMSAM doesn't treat my anxiety well enough, though it helps some. I guess I'll just have to keep experimenting. I may go back to a low dose of Risperidal. Who knows. I'll just put my energies on getting through the day.--Johann


> Ativan was the best for me but still sedating. GABA pills were hit or miss. Seemed like I built up a tolerance very quickly to GABA. L-Tryptophan can be very anxiolotic. Short lived effects though in my experience. But if you take it several times a day it may work well and also have an antidepresant effect. I'm currently trying a small dose of Lithium and so far it's very good. Slows things down without being tired. Lithium has a 24hr half life.

 

Re: Least sedating benzo? » Johann

Posted by cmorhoun on May 8, 2007, at 8:32:47

In reply to Re: Least sedating benzo?, posted by Johann on May 7, 2007, at 14:32:45

You might try stimulants like Adderall or Concerta. It probalby sounds insane for anxiety but they actually have a calming focusing effect. They are a bit tricky because they often loose umph over time but if you don't chase the high that they often initially provide, they can be very beneficial. My personal experience with them, and I'm insanely sensetive to drugs, is that when I take them in the morning, I often get pretty anxious for the next 1/2 hour or so and then I calm down considerably. They can tend to give you sort of an emotional rollercoaster ride but for many people, they are great. Very fast acting, you'll feel the effects immediately.

Otherwise you might look at things like Buspar, Abilify or some of the TCAs. Nardil is supposed to be very calming since it works on GABA and the same with Neurontin.

Benzos loose their effect over time and can some times add to depression. In my experience, they are a very weak answer to anxiety which I struggle with imensly.


> Thanks for your helpful response. I'm on 750 mg of lithium now, and while it's been great for my depression, it hasn't helped with anxiety, which appears to be the Holy Grail of mood problems, meaning that no one can get ahold of it. EMSAM doesn't treat my anxiety well enough, though it helps some. I guess I'll just have to keep experimenting. I may go back to a low dose of Risperidal. Who knows. I'll just put my energies on getting through the day.--Johann
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Re: Least sedating benzo?

Posted by Johann on May 8, 2007, at 12:47:40

In reply to Re: Least sedating benzo? » Johann, posted by cmorhoun on May 8, 2007, at 8:32:47

Have tried all of these except Nardil. Benzos have been best so far. Thanks.


> You might try stimulants like Adderall or Concerta. It probalby sounds insane for anxiety but they actually have a calming focusing effect. They are a bit tricky because they often loose umph over time but if you don't chase the high that they often initially provide, they can be very beneficial. My personal experience with them, and I'm insanely sensetive to drugs, is that when I take them in the morning, I often get pretty anxious for the next 1/2 hour or so and then I calm down considerably. They can tend to give you sort of an emotional rollercoaster ride but for many people, they are great. Very fast acting, you'll feel the effects immediately.
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> Otherwise you might look at things like Buspar, Abilify or some of the TCAs. Nardil is supposed to be very calming since it works on GABA and the same with Neurontin.
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> Benzos loose their effect over time and can some times add to depression. In my experience, they are a very weak answer to anxiety which I struggle with imensly.
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> > Thanks for your helpful response. I'm on 750 mg of lithium now, and while it's been great for my depression, it hasn't helped with anxiety, which appears to be the Holy Grail of mood problems, meaning that no one can get ahold of it. EMSAM doesn't treat my anxiety well enough, though it helps some. I guess I'll just have to keep experimenting. I may go back to a low dose of Risperidal. Who knows. I'll just put my energies on getting through the day.--Johann
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> > > Ativan was the best for me but still sedating. GABA pills were hit or miss. Seemed like I built up a tolerance very quickly to GABA. L-Tryptophan can be very anxiolotic. Short lived effects though in my experience. But if you take it several times a day it may work well and also have an antidepresant effect. I'm currently trying a small dose of Lithium and so far it's very good. Slows things down without being tired. Lithium has a 24hr half life.
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Re: Least sedating benzo? » Johann

Posted by madeline on May 8, 2007, at 13:27:26

In reply to Least sedating benzo?, posted by Johann on May 5, 2007, at 1:23:30

I was going to say klonopin. I'm sorry it's putting you to sleep.

Because it really does a number on anxiety.

Julie


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