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Re: What can we do to help?/Jerry Larry Hoover

Posted by paulbwell on April 10, 2007, at 10:45:47

In reply to Re: What can we do to help?/Jerry JerryPharmStudent, posted by Larry Hoover on April 10, 2007, at 9:25:14

Jerry-I miss chating to you on MSN, stay in touch and reply to my babblemail-people here have come to know and care about you.

 

Re: What can we do to help?/Jerry Larry Hoover

Posted by KayeBaby on April 10, 2007, at 14:07:25

In reply to Re: What can we do to help?/Jerry JerryPharmStudent, posted by Larry Hoover on April 10, 2007, at 9:25:14

I agree with you, Larry.

I find it very inspiring to see people reach out when they need help. I am trying to learn to do this. I mostly dissappear from life when I am in a bad way.

I am more comfortable in the caretaking mode and people look to me when they need help. When I am ill I just am out of my element and don't even know how to ask for help.

I have come to realize that the give and take is a natural flow and to limit yourself to one role or the other disrupts this healing cycle.

Have a penny give a penny, need one take one.
This is good order in the universe.

Jerry,
How are you doing?

Take Care,
Kaye

 

Re: Hello, goodbye JerryPharmStudent

Posted by Deneb on April 11, 2007, at 1:20:42

In reply to Re: Hello, goodbye, posted by JerryPharmStudent on April 8, 2007, at 23:25:19

I'm sorry to hear you're not doing well.

Please don't kill yourself. People love you here

Deneb*

 

Has anyone heard from Jerry??????? (nm)

Posted by UgottaHaveHope on April 11, 2007, at 10:37:50

In reply to Re: Hello, goodbye JerryPharmStudent, posted by Deneb on April 11, 2007, at 1:20:42

 

Re: Has anyone heard from Jerry???????

Posted by KayeBaby on April 11, 2007, at 11:47:26

In reply to Has anyone heard from Jerry??????? (nm), posted by UgottaHaveHope on April 11, 2007, at 10:37:50

This is worrying.
Has anyone talked to him or know anything?

Kaye

 

Are you ok!?! Sebastian

Posted by Sebastian on April 11, 2007, at 15:18:17

In reply to Re: What can we do to help? JerryPharmStudent, posted by Sebastian on April 9, 2007, at 12:50:07

Have you found a solution? Bussy? Feeling worse or better? I hope I didn't give you bad advice? what meds are you taking?

 

Jerry, did you stop any of your meds yet?

Posted by stargazer on April 11, 2007, at 22:58:04

In reply to Are you ok!?! Sebastian, posted by Sebastian on April 11, 2007, at 15:18:17

Jerry, haven't heard from you in a few days and need to know you are Ok?

Read your post and agree med changes are in order...I'm on Abilify, low dose 5 mg, and would recommend it to you in lieu of perhaps Remeron, Lexapro and Buspar.

Sorry to hear of your recent state, it is never easy to try and climb back up from that place, but it can be done with the help of a good pdoc and friends here that will try and help you through the darkness.

Just let us suggest things that have worked for us or not worked or give you new things to try. You know many of us here have found better solutions to our depression than with our pdoc's suggestions. It can be really good to listen and try other things your doctor will not suggest. You may even need to get a second opinion if you have never had one, although you did have ECT and VNS so you must have had many other consultations.

Have any drugs ever worked for you? You say Hydrocodone and Adderall are useful but what do they not do that you are hoping other meds can do for you?

Write back. Stargazer

 

Re: Jerry, did you stop any of your meds yet?

Posted by JerryPharmStudent on April 12, 2007, at 0:51:18

In reply to Jerry, did you stop any of your meds yet?, posted by stargazer on April 11, 2007, at 22:58:04

I a overwhelmed at the respose. YOu people are thee most caring, sensitive, kind people I could ever know. Strangers willing to call places for me? I woul dhave NEVER thought anyone would even offer.

I have tears in my eyes from reading your responses. YOu are beautiful people.

I"m sorry to have worried you. I've been sleeping away reality since my last post. TOmorrow I see my therapist and will talk to him about all of this - especially about SS info and help.

I cannot that you people enough.......

Jerry

 

Re: Geodon or Abilify?

Posted by JerryPharmStudent on April 12, 2007, at 0:58:20

In reply to Re: What can we do to help? JerryPharmStudent, posted by UgottaHaveHope on April 9, 2007, at 0:50:17

Some of you have mentioned positive results using Abilify. I'mwondering how Abilify and Geodon differ as far as treating TRD? They both seem to hit many of the same subreceptors, etc - but someone mentioned that Abilify was good for motivation.

Can anyone share experiences with either med? I've been on Seroquel before - which only knocked me out for days and days - even at small doses and made me gain tremendous amounts of weight.

thanks again......I lvove you alll

Jerry

 

Re: Geodon or Abilify?/Tried both

Posted by stargazer on April 12, 2007, at 10:56:19

In reply to Re: Geodon or Abilify?, posted by JerryPharmStudent on April 12, 2007, at 0:58:20

Jerry, you're in luck, I've tried both. The only problem is that I have no mental recall of Geodon's effectiveness. All I can say is that if I didn't stick with it, the results must not been very good. Uh let me consult my journal, yeah, here it is...
2/15/05 1st dose of Geodon 20, makes me dizzy, sleepy right away... (Phillipa...sounds good at perhaps lower dose for insomnia)
2/18 having headaches continuously...Psychobabble posting says it's a Satan drug(!) at higher doses like 80 mg. Average dose is 40 mg, BID dosing recommended.
3/22 still on Geodon at 20 mg, 10 mg/am, 10 mg/ pm.

*NOte: I was also on Wellbutrin 150, Adderall 30 and Celexa 40 mg.

5/05 I stopped Geodon for some unknown reason. Only reason I woulddothis was for bad side effects as I increased it and no effects atthe tolerated dose (20 mg).

Abilify: started 5 mg only on March 20. Seemed to increase my motivation and focus almost right away. Suggestions from my pdoc to increase the dosage have been rejected by me since I want to avoid SE's and this dose is doing something positive.

So my vote is for Abilify, 5 mg to start and if an increase is indicated, try and keep dose low, 15 mg or less.

Good luck Jerry. We're behind you since we know how your pain feels. My family is clueless too, I rarely tell them anything anymore. The last time I discussed it with my mother she started to tell me to "find religion" and I started screaming at her out of frustration. Very out of character for me but I just wanted to drill the point home, she gave up telling me what she thought I should do...

Stargazer

 

Re: Abilify!!!!

Posted by Sebastian on April 12, 2007, at 13:29:30

In reply to Re: Geodon or Abilify?, posted by JerryPharmStudent on April 12, 2007, at 0:58:20

I strongly suggest abilify over geodon. For one, abilify will realy lose weight, and lower blood sugar, increase metabolism. It doesn't take much, 15mg and you will have dramatic effects of this. also I gained weight on geodon. Lost all the weight on abilify. Still take a small dose of abilify, 5mg. Abilify is more likely to make happy instead of angry. Very energizing too. Plus a lot of people including me had bad side-effects with geodon, like blurry vision and blinking eyes.

 

Re: Geodon or Abilify?

Posted by KayeBaby on April 12, 2007, at 15:47:18

In reply to Re: Geodon or Abilify?, posted by JerryPharmStudent on April 12, 2007, at 0:58:20

My vote is for abilify. See if you can start low and take it slow.

If it amps your motivation you will be on your way!

It might make you sleepy at first so don't worry.
This has been a great med for lots of people with your symptoms.

We are pulling for you!
(((((((Jerry))))))))


Peace,
Kaye

 

Re: Geodon or Abilify?

Posted by Phillipa on April 12, 2007, at 19:24:34

In reply to Re: Geodon or Abilify?, posted by KayeBaby on April 12, 2007, at 15:47:18

I think one of the meds in Scott's cocktail is also ambilify. And hes in remission. Love Phillipa

 

Re: Abilify!!!! Sebastian

Posted by theo on April 12, 2007, at 21:57:53

In reply to Re: Abilify!!!!, posted by Sebastian on April 12, 2007, at 13:29:30

Is best time to take Abilify morning or evening?

 

Re: Geodon or Abilify?/Tried both stargazer

Posted by theo on April 12, 2007, at 21:58:36

In reply to Re: Geodon or Abilify?/Tried both, posted by stargazer on April 12, 2007, at 10:56:19

Do you take your Abilify morning or evening?

 

Re: Geodon or Abilify? KayeBaby

Posted by theo on April 12, 2007, at 21:59:12

In reply to Re: Geodon or Abilify?, posted by KayeBaby on April 12, 2007, at 15:47:18

Do you take Abilify morning or evening?

 

Re: Geodon or Abilify?

Posted by KayeBaby on April 12, 2007, at 22:49:47

In reply to Re: Geodon or Abilify? KayeBaby, posted by theo on April 12, 2007, at 21:59:12

> Do you take Abilify morning or evening?

I have not taken Abilify. Just been reading a lot about it and following the people here who have been taking it.


Peace,
kaye

 

Re: Abilify!!!! theo

Posted by Sebastian on April 13, 2007, at 8:31:41

In reply to Re: Abilify!!!! Sebastian, posted by theo on April 12, 2007, at 21:57:53

Morning! Right after breakfast.

 

Re: Are you ok!?!

Posted by JerryPharmStudent on April 13, 2007, at 17:07:11

In reply to Are you ok!?! Sebastian, posted by Sebastian on April 11, 2007, at 15:18:17

ugh..my phone was turned off.....I'm hoping my parents will help me out.

 

Re: Are you ok!?! JerryPharmStudent

Posted by Phillipa on April 13, 2007, at 18:58:46

In reply to Re: Are you ok!?!, posted by JerryPharmStudent on April 13, 2007, at 17:07:11

Hi Jerry feeling any better or able to face the world? Hope so Love Phillipa

 

Re: Are you ok!?!

Posted by Deniseuk190466 on April 16, 2007, at 9:57:08

In reply to Re: Are you ok!?!, posted by JerryPharmStudent on April 13, 2007, at 17:07:11

Jerry,

I remember you from 2001 onwards as Jerrympls (I think). I'm not feeling great myself so made me feel worse to see your note.

I thought you'd gone off to live a happy life on opiates.

I know nothing I can say can help as far as your depression goes but I do hope your circumstances get better. Depression has an awful knock on effect doesn't it?? Some people say they wouldn't wish depression on their worst enemy, well I know I would. I couldn't think of a better punishment, years and years of depression and anxiety.

I thought yougottahavehope's post was really good and encouraging and you should bear it in mind.

Also, keep trying new treatments, I know you've tried so many already but there is always Deep Brain Stimulation (that sounds something like the line from Casablanca). It looked really promising to me.


Denise

 

Re: Are you ok!?! JerryPharmStudent

Posted by Sebastian on April 16, 2007, at 13:42:47

In reply to Re: Are you ok!?!, posted by JerryPharmStudent on April 13, 2007, at 17:07:11

What meds are you taking? And did you take abilify? What kind of response did you get?

 

Re: Are you ok!?! Deniseuk190466

Posted by JerryPharmStudent on April 19, 2007, at 7:14:16

In reply to Re: Are you ok!?!, posted by Deniseuk190466 on April 16, 2007, at 9:57:08

> Jerry,
>
> I remember you from 2001 onwards as Jerrympls (I think). I'm not feeling great myself so made me feel worse to see your note.
>
> I thought you'd gone off to live a happy life on opiates.
>
> I know nothing I can say can help as far as your depression goes but I do hope your circumstances get better. Depression has an awful knock on effect doesn't it?? Some people say they wouldn't wish depression on their worst enemy, well I know I would. I couldn't think of a better punishment, years and years of depression and anxiety.
>
> I thought yougottahavehope's post was really good and encouraging and you should bear it in mind.
>
> Also, keep trying new treatments, I know you've tried so many already but there is always Deep Brain Stimulation (that sounds something like the line from Casablanca). It looked really promising to me.
>
>
> Denise

OPiate augmentation has been the lifesaver in my treatment. I'm still on 5mg 4x daily and it still works. Just unfortunate how depression can overwhelm things and come at your like a title wave.

 

Re: Are you ok!?!

Posted by KayeBaby on April 20, 2007, at 22:15:57

In reply to Re: Are you ok!?! Deniseuk190466, posted by JerryPharmStudent on April 19, 2007, at 7:14:16

Look who's back!

I have been worried about you!
Are you feeling any better?

Peace,
Kaye

 

Re: Are you ok!?!

Posted by JerryPharmStudent on April 20, 2007, at 23:17:11

In reply to Re: Are you ok!?!, posted by KayeBaby on April 20, 2007, at 22:15:57

> Look who's back!
>
> I have been worried about you!
> Are you feeling any better?
>
> Peace,
> Kaye

I'm doing OK for now. I see my Psych Doc on Monday and will ask about swtching to Ability. I worried he'll insist on switching to Geodon - he can be subborn.

I thank you all for being so caring. Im so alone....it helps tho.


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