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Re: But I don't feel like going...

Posted by jealibeanz on October 16, 2006, at 13:02:59

In reply to Re: But I don't feel like going..., posted by Phillipa on October 16, 2006, at 11:52:58

Phillipa, why does this have an impact on you? I didn't email you, and certainly never would do so because I don't want you hearing any more negative comments.

We are all different. I am going through life situations and medication adjustments that are causing my anxiety. We all have different situations. The world is not coming to an end. Anxiety isn't contagious.

Please disregarding any posts that cause you distress. I am one who tends to gravitate and remember the positive responses from members. You should do the same. I let the negatives go in one ear and out the other. You should as well.

 

Re: But I don't feel like going...

Posted by jealibeanz on October 16, 2006, at 13:06:07

In reply to Re: But I don't feel like going... » jealibeanz, posted by Squiggles on October 16, 2006, at 13:02:01

Hahaha... the cause of the problem? Not hidden at all! First of all, I've always had chronic GAD. This is greatly exacerbated by the fact that I'm in PA school! While not a horrible place, I like my friends, classmates, professors, and the entire atmosphere of the place. There's no avoiding that fact that these programs definitely trigger people who have had anxiety/depression in the past.

 

Re: But I don't feel like going... » jealibeanz

Posted by Squiggles on October 16, 2006, at 13:07:59

In reply to Re: But I don't feel like going..., posted by jealibeanz on October 16, 2006, at 13:06:07

What's PA school?

 

Re: But I don't feel like going...

Posted by jealibeanz on October 16, 2006, at 13:12:25

In reply to Re: But I don't feel like going... » jealibeanz, posted by Squiggles on October 16, 2006, at 13:07:59

physician assistant (aka the 15 months condensed, less scientific, version of med school) = overwhelming!!!!

 

Re: But I don't feel like going... » jealibeanz

Posted by Phillipa on October 16, 2006, at 19:07:20

In reply to Re: But I don't feel like going..., posted by jealibeanz on October 16, 2006, at 13:02:59

No No I didn't insinuate I hope that you had e-mailed me but it seemed very strange to me that people I e-mail with and don't have anxiety seem to have it in the last few days. I try and anaylze a lot. It's my personality. You haven't said or done anything that is upsetting to me. I know we are all different. But it's as if a full moon when I worked in psych we were innundated with admissions. that's all. An observation. Love Phillipa

 

Re: But I don't feel like going... » jealibeanz

Posted by Phillipa on October 16, 2006, at 19:12:48

In reply to Re: But I don't feel like going..., posted by jealibeanz on October 16, 2006, at 13:12:25

Ahhh but gratifying. And I do disagree as my RN was a two year course when it used to be three. I loved every moment of it. And didn't find it that stressful and the instructors were so kind to us and always there for us. Love Phillipa. ps if I'd graduated one year earlier I would have gone to PA school too. But that year they changed the rules so to speak and you then needed a Bachelors Degree first. Darn I would have loved it.

 

Re: But I don't feel like going...

Posted by jealibeanz on October 16, 2006, at 19:41:04

In reply to Re: But I don't feel like going... » jealibeanz, posted by Phillipa on October 16, 2006, at 19:12:48

Yes, but we are talking about two different careers and education pathways. I'm not saying RN is easy and void of stress by any means, but it's apples to oranges. We do have very supportive faculty, nonetheless, it's still extremely overwhelming, difficult, and scary to think how much responsibility and influence we will have.

 

Re: But I don't feel like going... » jealibeanz

Posted by Phillipa on October 16, 2006, at 19:56:16

In reply to Re: But I don't feel like going..., posted by jealibeanz on October 16, 2006, at 19:41:04

Not really as nurses run the codes and are responsible for orders MD's write. We have to know all meds and correct doses. And it won't be thrown at you all at once. You can do it I know you can. Please don't do what I do catastrophsize. And I do care . Love Phillipa

 

Re: But I don't feel like going...

Posted by jealibeanz on October 16, 2006, at 20:03:36

In reply to Re: But I don't feel like going... » jealibeanz, posted by Phillipa on October 16, 2006, at 19:56:16

Oh, I realize that nurses have an enormous amount of responsibility. Yet, there seems to be a common trend to PA/med students (although MD/DO's are certainly under much more stress and have to learn much more than PA's), that many become depressed. If not depressed, many do not like that period of their life. Of course there are exceptions. Some people are happy no matter what they're doing. Many of our faculty members have admitted this to us recently as they noticed we were struggling.

 

Re: But I don't feel like going... » jealibeanz

Posted by Phillipa on October 16, 2006, at 20:13:48

In reply to Re: But I don't feel like going..., posted by jealibeanz on October 16, 2006, at 20:03:36

Hummm interesting. They say pdocs have the highest rate of suicide. And Jelly you will be fine. I know you will you are billiant. Love Phillipa

 

Re: But I don't feel like going...

Posted by Jost on October 16, 2006, at 23:10:03

In reply to Re: But I don't feel like going... » jealibeanz, posted by Phillipa on October 16, 2006, at 20:13:48

Jeali, did you ever talk to you GP about the AD-- you were interested in Emsam, but even Parnate might be worth trying.

Maybe it's time to tell him more about what you've been experiencing emotionally.

If you're terribly worried about weight gain, Parnate or Emsam seem like good choices. And if, by some chance, you do gain weight-- it won't be much.

Plus one of those might give you more energy, and reduce some of the anxiety. I've found both of them anxiolytic--

It's hard to fight against negative thinking, and the sense of futility-- and therefore to do what might help for youself, when it feels so hard-- but this might be that point when you need to take it to a more honest level with your doctor. He didn't react as you'd feared, last time around.

Plus, I worry that the dose of xanax is getting high. Maybe it's okay for you-- but my pdoc, who's worked with physicians who've become addicted to xanax, says it's a really awful struggle to get off, if that happens.

He mentioned 4 mg a day as a dividing line around which you get into the more addictive levels. Try to be careful, maybe cut down on days when you can?

Jost

 

Re: But I don't feel like going...

Posted by jealibeanz on October 16, 2006, at 23:31:06

In reply to Re: But I don't feel like going..., posted by Jost on October 16, 2006, at 23:10:03

Yeah, the Xanax dosage worries me. It's not quite strong enough and only 9 hours or so is only half my day. I don't want to mention it because I know this is risky.

I'm tired of all this, having to worry about meds that help me not worry is ridiculous. I'd rather stop everything right now- medication, school, etc. I'm done with this game.

 

Re: But I don't feel like going...

Posted by jealibeanz on October 17, 2006, at 11:24:15

In reply to Re: But I don't feel like going..., posted by jealibeanz on October 16, 2006, at 23:31:06

Well, my worries about my problem were solved... I was held up in traffic for 30 min extra than planned. Since I was the last appt before lunch, I could just call and say I was going to be a little late. They won't let me reschedule for the only days I can make it, Saturdays, because those are generally reserved for sick people who can't come during the week or become sick that day and make an appointment, not for rechecks. They've bent this rule for me before, since I'm in an unusual situation, apparently we didn't want to be accomodating today. So, I'm screwed. The only breaks I have are days when the office is closed. I won't be able to come for 2 months now when my semester ends. Great.

 

Re: But I don't feel like going... » jealibeanz

Posted by Squiggles on October 17, 2006, at 11:51:25

In reply to Re: But I don't feel like going..., posted by jealibeanz on October 17, 2006, at 11:24:15

Where do you live?

Squiggles

 

Re: But I don't feel like going... » Squiggles

Posted by jealibeanz on October 17, 2006, at 12:43:54

In reply to Re: But I don't feel like going... » jealibeanz, posted by Squiggles on October 17, 2006, at 11:51:25

I appreciate your concern, but I'm not willing to give out info about where I live. There's enough details about my life on here. It's too risky.

 

Re: But I don't feel like going... » jealibeanz

Posted by Squiggles on October 17, 2006, at 12:48:26

In reply to Re: But I don't feel like going... » Squiggles, posted by jealibeanz on October 17, 2006, at 12:43:54

OK. I am asking because different
organizations may be more reliable
in different areas. In my area, Quebec,
i would trust the CLSCs, and hospitals,
rather than private clinics -- just my
experience.

Squiggles

 

Re: But I don't feel like going...

Posted by jealibeanz on October 17, 2006, at 13:13:50

In reply to Re: But I don't feel like going... » jealibeanz, posted by Squiggles on October 17, 2006, at 12:48:26

OK, I can give the country:) US

 

to phillipa

Posted by nickguy on October 17, 2006, at 14:58:50

In reply to Re: But I don't feel like going..., posted by jealibeanz on October 16, 2006, at 19:41:04

Phillipa,
My dad is a very well respected surgeon and is not superstitous, or even religious at all. Therefore, he's the last person I'd expect to hear something like this from- but, he swears by the fact that on full moons theres always a marked surplus of a certain kind of surgery needing to be done. ( I think appedectomys, I'm not positive though) It's always interesting to wonder about things like that.

 

Re: to phillipa » nickguy

Posted by Squiggles on October 17, 2006, at 15:29:57

In reply to to phillipa, posted by nickguy on October 17, 2006, at 14:58:50

> Phillipa,
> My dad is a very well respected surgeon and is not superstitous, or even religious at all. Therefore, he's the last person I'd expect to hear something like this from- but, he swears by the fact that on full moons theres always a marked surplus of a certain kind of surgery needing to be done. ( I think appedectomys, I'm not positive though) It's always interesting to wonder about things like that.


Well, if a statistical cluster is to happen
at some time, it has to happen at some time,
right?

Squiggles

 

Re: to phillipa » nickguy

Posted by Phillipa on October 17, 2006, at 16:56:22

In reply to to phillipa, posted by nickguy on October 17, 2006, at 14:58:50

Nickguy really? And appendectomies? And they also say the ER's pile up with patients. We'll have to watch this board and see if more people experience problems on a fullmoon. Anyone know when the next one is? Love Phillipa

 

Re: to phillipa

Posted by Jost on October 17, 2006, at 21:51:02

In reply to Re: to phillipa » nickguy, posted by Phillipa on October 17, 2006, at 16:56:22

Maybe turning into a werewolf isn't good for your appendix?

Jost

 

Re: to phillipa » Jost

Posted by Phillipa on October 17, 2006, at 22:10:23

In reply to Re: to phillipa, posted by Jost on October 17, 2006, at 21:51:02

Well that's a thought hummmm Love Phillipa how about a pumpkin?

 

Re: But I don't feel like going...

Posted by nickguy on October 19, 2006, at 1:50:41

In reply to Re: But I don't feel like going..., posted by jealibeanz on October 17, 2006, at 13:13:50

jealibeanz- I really hope things work out for you. Try not to put too much pressure on yourself. I know it seems like your career path is everything, but in the end it is very little. It's just a part of your life. Maybe theres some ways (besides the ADD) that your suffering can help you in school. For example, you endure more pain than the people around you. Perhaps you can apply this endurance to your work. Believe in yourself, even if you feel hopeless. I hope you can find a med that helps you. Does the xanax help you with school at all? When I explained to my pyschologist that I was worried that ativan might intrude on my schoolwork, he explained to me that there is a certain level of anxiety that interferes with work, and that ativan could actually help me do better in school.

 

Re: But I don't feel like going...

Posted by jealibeanz on October 19, 2006, at 3:05:09

In reply to Re: But I don't feel like going..., posted by nickguy on October 19, 2006, at 1:50:41

The Xanax does help. You're right about the level of concentration. If anxiety is too high, my concentration is horrible (on top of ADHD!). I never really have enough in my system that it severely inhibits me and prevents me from doing work.

I don't think I'll find an AD that is tolerable for me. Not anytime soon. Not until they come out with meds that have absolutely nothing to do with serotonin/NE.

A classmate and I were just talking about our frustration with meds/treatment/side effects etc associated with various chronic conditions we both have. I certainly have more empathy than the average person. Most docs don't know what it's like to struggle like this.

Many don't believe side effects or don't understand how intrusive they are. They don't understand the burden that is placed on a patient to try to be aware of how meds are affecting them compared to no treatment or previous meds, while still trying to live a life.

They get angry when patients are noncompliant. I never would because I admit that I don't always take meds as prescribed or D/C them w/o consultation. Things happen.

 

Re: But I don't feel like going... » jealibeanz

Posted by Phillipa on October 19, 2006, at 19:35:42

In reply to Re: But I don't feel like going..., posted by jealibeanz on October 19, 2006, at 3:05:09

You are so right!!!!!!!Love Phillipa and I know you can do it.


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