Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 694606

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new here seeking for avoidant personality helpmeds

Posted by avoidant on October 13, 2006, at 22:08:46

Hello to all, i am "new" here, because it's my first post but for many months i came here to seek relief.
Reading about avoidant personality disorder i have the conclusion that i have that type of disorder. I'm 23 years old, dropped out the college about 3 months and stayed alone in my room all that time. I am seeinga a dcotor and proven a lot of meds (Cymbalta, olanzapine, remeron, paxil, effexor but none works) The only thing that work is high dose clonazepam which causes me severe impairment in memory (clonazepam only works in doses from 8 to 12 mg)When i take that dose i feel "live" "free". But the side effects on cognition are trrible for mei don't know to write i'm very dull because of clonazepam. This is the first post on any board that i have written because of AvP , i'am always shame of my writing .and i'm writing thanks to clonazepam .Here are my questions:
1 does a drug can reverse the cognitive effects of cclonazpeam?
2 there is a drug without the side effects of clonazepam for extreme AvP ?

Thanks for reading my post, any help would greatly aprreciated

 

read up on Nardil, get pdoc to consider it. (nm) » avoidant

Posted by iforgotmypassword on October 14, 2006, at 12:28:47

In reply to new here seeking for avoidant personality helpmeds, posted by avoidant on October 13, 2006, at 22:08:46

 

Re: read up on Nardil, get pdoc to consider it. » iforgotmypassword

Posted by avoidant on October 14, 2006, at 12:40:21

In reply to read up on Nardil, get pdoc to consider it. (nm) » avoidant, posted by iforgotmypassword on October 14, 2006, at 12:28:47

thanks, i have already ordered Parnate, it's usefulto avp? how it compares to nardil in that subject? do they have cognitive problems? (i love to play chess)

, Thanks you very much iforgotmypassword =)

 

Re: read up on Nardil, get pdoc to consider it.

Posted by iforgotmypassword on October 14, 2006, at 15:12:59

In reply to Re: read up on Nardil, get pdoc to consider it. » iforgotmypassword, posted by avoidant on October 14, 2006, at 12:40:21

no prob.

nardil is the social phobia MAOI, due to it's unique GABA effects. it can slow down the thought of SOME people reportedly, though i am doubtful that this involves a majority of people on the drug. many people even find it stimulating, and i believe some few people have even gone off of it due to stimulating effects. it is a very effective antidepressant when it works, much like parnate in this regard.

obviously, it is a LOT like parnate pharmacologically, despite the fact that a lot of people have a clear preference for one over the other. some people even respond to one not the other. the main obvious distinguising factor in the phramacology technically is the GABA effects and PERHAPS the balance of it's type of MAOI inhibition, but this is hard to find genuine confirmation of.

i would say that switching to nardil is likely worth a shot. if you do, make sure you get up to at least 45-60mg before you make any judgments of it (unless 30mg turns out to be enough.) what dosage of parnate are you on, and how has that worked for you? i heard brief mention a long time ago of people adding Neurontin to Parnate to make it "Nardil-like" due to neurontin's GABA effects, but i am skeptical of it actually doing anything. i am sort of skeptical of neurontin in general. seems to have helped some fibro and even CFS patients though. strange drug.

there is a page that may be helpful to you. i will find it.

 

Re: read up on Nardil, get pdoc to consider it.

Posted by iforgotmypassword on October 14, 2006, at 15:15:19

In reply to Re: read up on Nardil, get pdoc to consider it., posted by iforgotmypassword on October 14, 2006, at 15:12:59

here it is:
http://www.socialfear.com/

if you end up trying Nardil, let us know how you do!

 

Re: read up on Nardil, get pdoc to consider it.

Posted by avoidant on October 14, 2006, at 16:01:46

In reply to Re: read up on Nardil, get pdoc to consider it., posted by iforgotmypassword on October 14, 2006, at 15:15:19

Very thanks for your help iforgotmypassword. Unfortunaelty i live in Chile where the only MAOI available is Moclobemide which have poor efects.
Today i´m on 4 mg clonazepam and tommorrow i wil be on 2 mg clonazepam decreasing the dose to supress it. Also starting taking Buspar and started Lyrica (750 mg) which gave me ataxia. I will suspend Lyrica which have bad effects on cognition. I also ordered Tianeptine which i hope arrive next week.

iforgotmypassword: do you have any reliable source to buy Nardil that accepts international orders?

Thanks iforgotmypassword you are very generous.

 

Re: read up on Nardil, get pdoc to consider it.

Posted by iforgotmypassword on October 14, 2006, at 18:08:31

In reply to Re: read up on Nardil, get pdoc to consider it., posted by avoidant on October 14, 2006, at 16:01:46

don't worry that's what were here for. it's a really good community here. do not hesistate to ask any questions here, there are so many who are very knowlegeable and understanding.

i will look for you for a good and legal source. i will just have to go out with my dad for dinner, so i'll have to do it in a few hours.

i live in canada, so i think we still have some good international internet pharmacies here. i will try to find out which is best.

 

Re: read up on Nardil, get pdoc to consider it.

Posted by iforgotmypassword on October 15, 2006, at 1:18:09

In reply to Re: read up on Nardil, get pdoc to consider it., posted by iforgotmypassword on October 14, 2006, at 18:08:31

argh, i'm sorry. it seems very expensive online for such an old med. (you will likely go through more than 100 pills a month) :(

http://www.candrugstore.com/SiteMap/Nardil_phenelzine.htm

this is just one place, and it was more expensive than another i found which was a few dollars cheaper. i don't know how i found it, though. there are probably many, many places you can find on google.

i'm sorry i thought i would actually be able to recommend a place since internet pharmacies were in the news so much a while ago because the U.S. hates how we run things (for economic reasons.) i couldn't find much though... this may be worth asking everybody here, maybe...

 

Re: read up on Nardil, get pdoc to consider it. » iforgotmypassword

Posted by willyee on October 15, 2006, at 12:03:21

In reply to Re: read up on Nardil, get pdoc to consider it., posted by iforgotmypassword on October 15, 2006, at 1:18:09

Not just neurontion,but various benzos and gaba drugs can be added to parnate to create that effect,along with parnate also having its own calming effects too.

I am starting to think the differance is the form of drug.Nardil is a hydrazine,is that how its spelled.

Nardil takes longer to become solid where parnate has a kinda fast amphet kinda of effect.


My view would be


Nardil,takes longer to start really working.However when it does,it is more solid in your system,meaning it wont kinda just disappear in effect if you miss a dose.

Parnate kinda like some strong coffee,effects of the drug happen usualy very fast,however its life is short,it has a strong hard come on,but also a sharp removal,so dosing is important,many people will tell you if they are not on time with there parnate dose,the negative effects seep in fast.


The pros and cons go on and on,but again i think the main differance between the two is how they hang out in your system,its funny its almost as if you can write a profile for xanax/parnate.....to klonopin/narddil and explain the differance rather closly.

 

Re: read up on Nardil, get pdoc to consider it.

Posted by willyee on October 15, 2006, at 12:44:57

In reply to Re: read up on Nardil, get pdoc to consider it., posted by iforgotmypassword on October 14, 2006, at 15:15:19

Ive come across this page millions of times as its embedded in any social anxiety keyword search on google,just on the way the keywords are used to when it appears.

One thing about this page is it speaks rather permantly.What i mean is speaks as if the information it puts fourth is the absolute truth.

The two examples and only ones i noticed since i am part of them are,...parnate is not effective for SP,and occasionaly will work.

I dont know,esepcialy with the reformulation ordeal,id say a majority of people using parnate will come in numbers close to nardil.Its highly possable nardil will have more,but i dont think it will be as extreme as the page makes it.

Also the labeling of anti convulsants not being very effective,almost to the degree of not at all.

I dunno,with a benzo,i believe the various options on these drugs are crucial.

Many of them deal with over active glutmate activity,and its probuably a good argument that they serve more effective in anxiety then seizures.

I know a lot of anti convulsants for me have worked well with aiding a benzo.


Its still a extremly extrmely informative page,and it runs on very accurate lines,least i think,just the dominance of what it is saying kinda gets me.

That page,and remeyfind too i think are real good sources for someone just starting to look into the web for help.


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