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Recent doc visit please read

Posted by willyee on October 13, 2006, at 12:20:58

First i want to start out by saying upon re-starting nuerontion,and stopping my lyrcia short lived trial,i felt like a soothing relief when getting it back into my system.

Right now i have a parnate-klonopin-nuerontion system which has helped me a lot,im up functioning near 100 percent,and doing a lot better.

I still have severe problems but thats not where i wanna aim this post for the moment.


Today,only minutes ago i seen my p-doc.I brought my mother along to show her that im not lying when i tell her she is in a dream world about the help she believes exisits for me.

My appt was at 11.15 am,i arrived 5 minutes early to hear by the assitant who has been tremdonous help,tell me the actual doc isnt even in yet.

I sit and my mother right away is very upset,im just casual as can be as this is the normal.


We are called by the doc at ten min to 12,as she is literaly on her way in with her bag on her side.


She comes into the extravagant huge office,and first thing she chooses to do is go on about lyrcia,how she was right about me asking for it.


Upon being late,she chooses to start the session with my i suppose wrong doings,i bit my tongue until this was said...."and he wants to read to much about it"

I leaned in and asked her,i get 15 min with you,you are late,30 min late,you have stopped 3 times in this session to answer a audio activated pager,disrupting the session.

Am i supposed to rely on this as my sole treatment,and not read myself and do what i can.


She then ignored obviously the question and addresed the beeper issue,telling me she works for the hospital also.

It begain to become intensified now as i was already lite up,i am that type,when im lite i just go,keeping from getting lite is the tast i try to do.


So i tell her,even so,i never heard of a doc answering pages in the midle of a session,unless it was an emergency,you have answered that 3 times already,and you have answered your phone in previous meetings.


Skipping ahead as we all tried to argue without arguing here,she says well you have tried everything,you refused ect...


I said of course,i said that is not an option for me,at all,and i dont see why that is a problem.

My mother asks what is this,and i tell her a seizure induced state.

She cuts in,and we battle for who is speaking,and i ask her,yes or no,is it a induced siezure?

She slowly and unwantingly says yess.I say ok then,im not opting for that,i understand its done extremly different now,but its still what it is,and i do not wish to discuss it.

Im so upset rigt now i cant put into words the remainder of the meeting.Im wondering if i was wrong to question the beeper incident,as it got very personal at that point,but she was going on and on about me,when the clock was ticking,dont talk about yesterday,when im paying for today.


Id appreciate some questions so i can explain this more,as i dont know how to post the entire session,maybe some questions can help,but questions,views,opinins on how i handled it are all welcome.

I just asked her for a current scrupt of my normal meds,nothing else,and even there a problem arose.

I told her she had me on a certain dose of klonopin,she said i was wrong.Luckly i had the bottle on me,and she seen.What am i too do,i cant go on jumping docs,why are they all acting this way.It cant be me.

I stayed calm which im proud of,there was a hug at the end of the session between me and the doc,but the tension that was there,this cant be healthy or normal can it?

Would jumping ship to another doc be my anxiety,and should i understand this maybe happens and stay.Will she hold a grudge now?All these things are going on in my thoughts.

I really have been doing so much better too with the regimine i am using,this week ive accomplished so much,i dont know if its the other parnate kicking in,or what.

 

Re: Recent doc visit please read » willyee

Posted by Crazy Horse on October 13, 2006, at 13:43:17

In reply to Recent doc visit please read, posted by willyee on October 13, 2006, at 12:20:58

> First i want to start out by saying upon re-starting nuerontion,and stopping my lyrcia short lived trial,i felt like a soothing relief when getting it back into my system.
>
> Right now i have a parnate-klonopin-nuerontion system which has helped me a lot,im up functioning near 100 percent,and doing a lot better.
>
> I still have severe problems but thats not where i wanna aim this post for the moment.
>
>
> Today,only minutes ago i seen my p-doc.I brought my mother along to show her that im not lying when i tell her she is in a dream world about the help she believes exisits for me.
>
> My appt was at 11.15 am,i arrived 5 minutes early to hear by the assitant who has been tremdonous help,tell me the actual doc isnt even in yet.
>
> I sit and my mother right away is very upset,im just casual as can be as this is the normal.
>
>
> We are called by the doc at ten min to 12,as she is literaly on her way in with her bag on her side.
>
>
> She comes into the extravagant huge office,and first thing she chooses to do is go on about lyrcia,how she was right about me asking for it.
>
>
> Upon being late,she chooses to start the session with my i suppose wrong doings,i bit my tongue until this was said...."and he wants to read to much about it"
>
> I leaned in and asked her,i get 15 min with you,you are late,30 min late,you have stopped 3 times in this session to answer a audio activated pager,disrupting the session.
>
> Am i supposed to rely on this as my sole treatment,and not read myself and do what i can.
>
>
> She then ignored obviously the question and addresed the beeper issue,telling me she works for the hospital also.
>
> It begain to become intensified now as i was already lite up,i am that type,when im lite i just go,keeping from getting lite is the tast i try to do.
>
>
> So i tell her,even so,i never heard of a doc answering pages in the midle of a session,unless it was an emergency,you have answered that 3 times already,and you have answered your phone in previous meetings.
>
>
> Skipping ahead as we all tried to argue without arguing here,she says well you have tried everything,you refused ect...
>
>
> I said of course,i said that is not an option for me,at all,and i dont see why that is a problem.
>
> My mother asks what is this,and i tell her a seizure induced state.
>
> She cuts in,and we battle for who is speaking,and i ask her,yes or no,is it a induced siezure?
>
> She slowly and unwantingly says yess.I say ok then,im not opting for that,i understand its done extremly different now,but its still what it is,and i do not wish to discuss it.
>
> Im so upset rigt now i cant put into words the remainder of the meeting.Im wondering if i was wrong to question the beeper incident,as it got very personal at that point,but she was going on and on about me,when the clock was ticking,dont talk about yesterday,when im paying for today.
>
>
> Id appreciate some questions so i can explain this more,as i dont know how to post the entire session,maybe some questions can help,but questions,views,opinins on how i handled it are all welcome.
>
> I just asked her for a current scrupt of my normal meds,nothing else,and even there a problem arose.
>
> I told her she had me on a certain dose of klonopin,she said i was wrong.Luckly i had the bottle on me,and she seen.What am i too do,i cant go on jumping docs,why are they all acting this way.It cant be me.
>
> I stayed calm which im proud of,there was a hug at the end of the session between me and the doc,but the tension that was there,this cant be healthy or normal can it?
>
> Would jumping ship to another doc be my anxiety,and should i understand this maybe happens and stay.Will she hold a grudge now?All these things are going on in my thoughts.
>
> I really have been doing so much better too with the regimine i am using,this week ive accomplished so much,i dont know if its the other parnate kicking in,or what.

Absolutely unbelieveable and unacceptable! I would be looking for a new doc myself..it shouldn't be too hard to find someone better than this disrespectful Bitch.

-Monte

 

Re: Recent doc visit please read

Posted by willyee on October 13, 2006, at 13:59:30

In reply to Re: Recent doc visit please read » willyee, posted by Crazy Horse on October 13, 2006, at 13:43:17

Ez guy,the last thing i want is the guilt of getting someone yelled at here,if anything ill take the blame lol.

Aside from that,this is a close knit city,and the docs are work in the same area,and are identical,my last one i had for 5 years before she moved away,i was happy i had settled down,prior i was all over different docs,this one now reminds me of those days,and im not sure if i wanna test the waters on the area docs again,when i did,as i aid it was one after another,but thanks thats one vote for that option wwhich is one ill be debating this weekend.

Thanks,and trust me,what i wrote is words,and cant describe the absurd appt,wish i could have recorded it.

 

Re: Recent doc visit please read

Posted by JOP on October 13, 2006, at 15:11:43

In reply to Recent doc visit please read, posted by willyee on October 13, 2006, at 12:20:58

> First i want to start out by saying upon re-starting nuerontion,and stopping my lyrcia short lived trial,i felt like a soothing relief when getting it back into my system.
>
> Right now i have a parnate-klonopin-nuerontion system which has helped me a lot,im up functioning near 100 percent,and doing a lot better.
>
> I still have severe problems but thats not where i wanna aim this post for the moment.
>
>
> Today,only minutes ago i seen my p-doc.I brought my mother along to show her that im not lying when i tell her she is in a dream world about the help she believes exisits for me.
>
> My appt was at 11.15 am,i arrived 5 minutes early to hear by the assitant who has been tremdonous help,tell me the actual doc isnt even in yet.
>
> I sit and my mother right away is very upset,im just casual as can be as this is the normal.
>
>
> We are called by the doc at ten min to 12,as she is literaly on her way in with her bag on her side.
>
>
> She comes into the extravagant huge office,and first thing she chooses to do is go on about lyrcia,how she was right about me asking for it.
>
>
> Upon being late,she chooses to start the session with my i suppose wrong doings,i bit my tongue until this was said...."and he wants to read to much about it"
>
> I leaned in and asked her,i get 15 min with you,you are late,30 min late,you have stopped 3 times in this session to answer a audio activated pager,disrupting the session.
>
> Am i supposed to rely on this as my sole treatment,and not read myself and do what i can.
>
>
> She then ignored obviously the question and addresed the beeper issue,telling me she works for the hospital also.
>
> It begain to become intensified now as i was already lite up,i am that type,when im lite i just go,keeping from getting lite is the tast i try to do.
>
>
> So i tell her,even so,i never heard of a doc answering pages in the midle of a session,unless it was an emergency,you have answered that 3 times already,and you have answered your phone in previous meetings.
>
>
> Skipping ahead as we all tried to argue without arguing here,she says well you have tried everything,you refused ect...
>
>
> I said of course,i said that is not an option for me,at all,and i dont see why that is a problem.
>
> My mother asks what is this,and i tell her a seizure induced state.
>
> She cuts in,and we battle for who is speaking,and i ask her,yes or no,is it a induced siezure?
>
> She slowly and unwantingly says yess.I say ok then,im not opting for that,i understand its done extremly different now,but its still what it is,and i do not wish to discuss it.
>
> Im so upset rigt now i cant put into words the remainder of the meeting.Im wondering if i was wrong to question the beeper incident,as it got very personal at that point,but she was going on and on about me,when the clock was ticking,dont talk about yesterday,when im paying for today.
>
>
> Id appreciate some questions so i can explain this more,as i dont know how to post the entire session,maybe some questions can help,but questions,views,opinins on how i handled it are all welcome.
>
> I just asked her for a current scrupt of my normal meds,nothing else,and even there a problem arose.
>
> I told her she had me on a certain dose of klonopin,she said i was wrong.Luckly i had the bottle on me,and she seen.What am i too do,i cant go on jumping docs,why are they all acting this way.It cant be me.
>
> I stayed calm which im proud of,there was a hug at the end of the session between me and the doc,but the tension that was there,this cant be healthy or normal can it?
>
> Would jumping ship to another doc be my anxiety,and should i understand this maybe happens and stay.Will she hold a grudge now?All these things are going on in my thoughts.
>
> I really have been doing so much better too with the regimine i am using,this week ive accomplished so much,i dont know if its the other parnate kicking in,or what.

I have had docs answer pages, cell phones, office phones, and respond to faxes during sessions. I have also had doctors that have been 1 hour late for appointments. Each time one of them has done any of this I immediately stop, wait for them to finish and invariably they look at me as if to say, “now where were we?” They just pick up where they think they left off and I have to stop them and politely tell them that in my corporate job I bill clients $375 an hour, that’s $6.25 a minute and that I only bill in 15 minute increments which comes to $93.75 whether a task takes me 1 minute or 15. I then tell them that I accept cash or they can credit my bill – I do not accept personal checks. This really gets their attention.

This behavior is not only unprofessional, but I think in a psychiatric setting borders on unethical (i.e. HIPPA regs. etc). DO NOT stand for this kind of treatment. If your doctor also works for a hospital that is fine, but make sure to tell her that when she is consulting with you she is not to engage in any work for any other entity – make sure she understands that you are contracting for her services and expect that for those 15 minutes she should focus solely on you.

While her distracted behavior is disturbing, the fact that she isn’t aware of what dosage she prescribes for you is downright scary! As a patient, you shouldn’t have to prove to her the dose of medication that she prescribes by bringing in your bottles. Does she take notes or write anything down in your file? This is the part that truly frightens me and if she is not documenting things properly and in a timely fashion, you should refer her for disciplinary action. You have access to your pharmacy records to prove what and how much she is prescribing and if she can’t duplicate those records she should most certainly be spanked.

 

Re: Recent doc visit please read

Posted by Phillipa on October 13, 2006, at 17:05:30

In reply to Re: Recent doc visit please read, posted by JOP on October 13, 2006, at 15:11:43

Will the pdoc's there have really changed. But it's no better here except they never not know what doses they prescribe unless it's my choice. And no they do not take phone calls unless it's an emergencey and they they ask permission. Do I know her? Love Phillipa ps another doc

 

Re: Recent doc visit please read » JOP

Posted by Crazy Horse on October 13, 2006, at 18:16:02

In reply to Re: Recent doc visit please read, posted by JOP on October 13, 2006, at 15:11:43

Beautiful post JOP! I TOTALLY AGREE!!

-Monte

 

Re: Recent doc visit please read » JOP

Posted by willyee on October 13, 2006, at 18:48:30

In reply to Re: Recent doc visit please read, posted by JOP on October 13, 2006, at 15:11:43

Thanks for wording that so great,its what i was trying to do.My mother while waiting for her when she was late told me to tell,i smiled and said,MA she could care less if i leave,she probuably wants to loose a few patients.

They know we need them,and as mad as i get,i have to take it cause i do.If it gets so confrontational that i walk out of a session,who looses?I do,i dont get my drugs i need,nothing happens to the doc,i just leave,I SPEND a month searching for a doc who is "taking paitents" and i pay for the initial visit,go through the million hurdles,and in a month or two,end up back where i was,in a 15 min session getting the same drugs.


It would take that long to get the doc,get in,and established before i could expect the doc to use any new treatments,so again i have to take it.

The incorrect dose part,ill even go half with her on that.I have quite a rap sheet,and keeping track of my changes can be a task im sure.

My last doc however used excel,which allowed her to never make a mistake like that,this one uses a giant paper pad,the kind u fold.


I cant blame her for not using a pc based data base,and i dont mind her getting confused,but dont call me a liar in so many words either,i dont need to abuse drugs,i know so many resources if i wanted to id have done so by now,if i say something give me some credit,if i dident have the bottle on me i would to have had made a call back,and in would have been a pain.


I know this is a very detailed post,or becomming,but i have to bet im not the only one having these kind of problems.

Last not to mention,she is a indian doc,which is fine,but i cant understand her,and her english is so bad,i really have to wonder how she gets a position to be helping me in such a way when we have trouble even understanding.

Her assistant is such a good man too,when i came out,i spoke to him,and asked him if i can call him at another time,his father was a doc and im gonna inquire with him if he can recomend someone else,again with me its the maoi issue as well,i have to make sure the doc i see will be ok with accepting a patient on a maoi.

Its so much to deal with,and its so untrue when its said that seekiing help is easy.The only way you get even reasonable treatment in decent time is getting admitted to a hospital,even then its not the best.


As for outsource treatment,seeking help is not a fast process,at all.


Oh and i forgot to mention,the doc also insulted me the always easy to say from a second view,"drugs arent gonna do it all" ok so you are in the field of managing drugs,now im wrong in believing these drugs are gonna play a major role in my recovery,wow,i bet you dont think that when you recieve your payment.

Im so sick of docters,and people assuming because im using these drugs that the idea of working on my life has escaped me.They are not there when my clothes have laid out ironed,and i showered shaved,only to end up with my face dug in my sofa.

They are not there when i let my brother push me into going out,and im standing in a club like a fool staring in one spot sick to my stomach.

They are not there when i dragged myself every morning,as many people do,out of the house,into the car and went to work.

And who makes these assesments,the very same people who tell you to take them,they will help you.I know im venting,im not upset actualy,but im just really frustrated,i think the whole industry is a sham,i really have lost faith the system of it.

If you dont agree thats fine,but i am becomming more and more anti psych everyday.Not on the drugs,but on the people around them.


 

Re: Recent doc visit please read

Posted by JOP on October 14, 2006, at 1:09:34

In reply to Re: Recent doc visit please read » JOP, posted by willyee on October 13, 2006, at 18:48:30

> The incorrect dose part,ill even go half with her on that.I have quite a rap sheet,and keeping track of my changes can be a task im sure.
>

I understand that it can be VERY challenging finding a doctor whom you trust and are comfortable working with. That said, managing your own illness is extremely difficult particularly when you are sitting right in the middle of it. Any doctor worth their salt should be someone who can help guide you through the tough parts and answer any questions you have regarding treatment with respect, patience and honesty. What is troubling to me is that you seem to be excusing her utter ineptitude as a medical professional and shouldering a good part of the responsibility that falls squarely in her lap. She signed up to be a shrink (which I will admit is not an easy job) and you have every right to demand to be treated in the same fashion as she would like to be treated if she or someone in her family was in your situation. Just because you have been through many medication protocols does not mean she doesn’t have to keep track of exactly what and how much she is prescribing for you. This is a PRIMARY function of her job and if she can’t do this accurately, then there is a serious problem -- not to mention all of the liability issues she is exposing herself to.

There are ways around this and there are many different types of professionals in the mental health field that can prescribe – psych nurse practitioners, physicians assistants, some advanced practice psychologists (depending on where you live), gp’s, etc. Take yourself and your money elsewhere and get the care and respect you deserve.

 

Re: Recent doc visit please read

Posted by willyee on October 14, 2006, at 11:15:11

In reply to Re: Recent doc visit please read, posted by JOP on October 14, 2006, at 1:09:34

> > The incorrect dose part,ill even go half with her on that.I have quite a rap sheet,and keeping track of my changes can be a task im sure.
> >
>
> I understand that it can be VERY challenging finding a doctor whom you trust and are comfortable working with. That said, managing your own illness is extremely difficult particularly when you are sitting right in the middle of it. Any doctor worth their salt should be someone who can help guide you through the tough parts and answer any questions you have regarding treatment with respect, patience and honesty. What is troubling to me is that you seem to be excusing her utter ineptitude as a medical professional and shouldering a good part of the responsibility that falls squarely in her lap. She signed up to be a shrink (which I will admit is not an easy job) and you have every right to demand to be treated in the same fashion as she would like to be treated if she or someone in her family was in your situation. Just because you have been through many medication protocols does not mean she doesn’t have to keep track of exactly what and how much she is prescribing for you. This is a PRIMARY function of her job and if she can’t do this accurately, then there is a serious problem -- not to mention all of the liability issues she is exposing herself to.
>
> There are ways around this and there are many different types of professionals in the mental health field that can prescribe – psych nurse practitioners, physicians assistants, some advanced practice psychologists (depending on where you live), gp’s, etc. Take yourself and your money elsewhere and get the care and respect you deserve.
>

Thanks i appreciate your advice,i think your 100 percent correct,im also glad i had someone else with me to witness this.

Ill post follow ups on social if anyone cares.


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