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Posted by bipolarspectrum on February 22, 2006, at 20:19:25
Hello,
I need somethign to help with bipolar depression and im wondering if anyone has felt an antidepressant kick from strattera?
bps
Posted by rjlockhart on February 22, 2006, at 20:31:14
In reply to can STRATTERA help depression, posted by bipolarspectrum on February 22, 2006, at 20:19:25
i dont think, i've heard stuff that it has helped and then it has made it worse.
I was on strattera about a year and half ago. Actually 2003, i went on a trial with it.
It helps with attention. To my extent.
take care
Matt
Posted by med_empowered on February 22, 2006, at 20:45:59
In reply to Re: can STRATTERA help depression, posted by rjlockhart on February 22, 2006, at 20:31:14
some shrinks use straterra as an AD add on. Straterra actually started as a failed AD that was revived as a non-stimulant ADD drug. It isn't that great, but some people like it.
Posted by linkadge on February 22, 2006, at 21:14:43
In reply to can STRATTERA help depression, posted by bipolarspectrum on February 22, 2006, at 20:19:25
Have you tried the famous lithium/nortryptaline combination ? Seems to be the most famous for post ECT relapse prevention.
Linkadge
Posted by rjlockhart on February 22, 2006, at 21:35:01
In reply to Re: can STRATTERA help depression, posted by linkadge on February 22, 2006, at 21:14:43
you know so much about old stuff, god i was like man do you study the 1975 Psychiatric Journal Articles ROFL!
I need ECT, if you where a doctor would you give me a referal? rofl
Matt
Posted by alohashirt on February 22, 2006, at 21:35:34
In reply to can STRATTERA help depression, posted by bipolarspectrum on February 22, 2006, at 20:19:25
> Hello,
> I need somethign to help with bipolar depression and im wondering if anyone has felt an antidepressant kick from strattera?
> bpsBe careful. I interrupted my Strattera (because I ran out) and suddenly felt happy. I hadn't realized I was sad, which is scary. The effect has held. Five months of no Strattera = much happier
I don't know why, and don't worry about it.
Posted by bipolarspectrum on February 22, 2006, at 23:13:14
In reply to Re: can STRATTERA help depression, posted by alohashirt on February 22, 2006, at 21:35:34
Thanx for the replies,
I brought it up because my pdoc just got a huge box of samples and i saw them in his office... i asked him if it had antidepressant kick and he said no... but i actually value y'all's opinion over his in this situation (and many others).. so i guess it really doesnt have antidepressant kick...
bps
ps. is nortyptyline sedating? is it heavy on the anticholibnergic?
Posted by River1924 on February 23, 2006, at 2:23:46
In reply to Nortyptyline (sp?), posted by bipolarspectrum on February 22, 2006, at 23:13:14
"ps. is nortyptyline sedating? is it heavy on the anticholibnergic?"
In my experience, yes and yes.
nortriptyline
BRAND NAME: Pamelor, Aventyl
Posted by linkadge on February 23, 2006, at 9:13:19
In reply to Re: link, posted by rjlockhart on February 22, 2006, at 21:35:01
I've read that in a few places. Newer drugs have not always proven more effective than the older ones.
In terms of helping people not to relapse after ECT, one of the most effective combinations seems to be lithium and nortyptaline.
Linkadge
Posted by SLS on February 23, 2006, at 10:49:15
In reply to can STRATTERA help depression, posted by bipolarspectrum on February 22, 2006, at 20:19:25
> Hello,
> I need somethign to help with bipolar depression and im wondering if anyone has felt an antidepressant kick from strattera?
> bpsI wouldn't consider Strattera as having a high success rate when treating depression.
You know the deal - it certainly, without a doubt, unequivocally, most definitely, indubitably, quite possibly, might work. YMMV
I don't think anyone here would want to accidentally steer you away from a treatment that would end up being effective for you. One can only report what they themselves have experienced, what they have seen others experience, and what they have encountered in their personal studies of the literature.
I experienced a brief mild improvement of bipolar depression with Strattera that lasted less than three days. If you do decide to try it, take note that it can cause sedation or sleepiness during the second week that tends to disappear. If you haven't tried nortriptyine, I think that drug would be a better candidate to try first, unless you have already established a history of not responding well to multiple tricyclics.
What are you currently taking, and what is it about your current condition that you are not happy with?
- Scott
Posted by bipolarspectrum on February 23, 2006, at 17:39:56
In reply to Re: can STRATTERA help depression » bipolarspectrum, posted by SLS on February 23, 2006, at 10:49:15
Thanx for the replies,
I'm a little sceptical of notrityline because im bipolar spectrum and antidepressants tend to destabilize me... im currently on lithium 1200 and seroquel 600... but its not cutting it for my bipolar depression.... I've been lookin for something to agument the lithium with... my pdoc is talking about amoxapine (Loxapine)... but im considering augmentibng with wellbutrin, any thoughts?
bps> > Hello,
> > I need somethign to help with bipolar depression and im wondering if anyone has felt an antidepressant kick from strattera?
> > bps
>
> I wouldn't consider Strattera as having a high success rate when treating depression.
>
> You know the deal - it certainly, without a doubt, unequivocally, most definitely, indubitably, quite possibly, might work. YMMV
>
> I don't think anyone here would want to accidentally steer you away from a treatment that would end up being effective for you. One can only report what they themselves have experienced, what they have seen others experience, and what they have encountered in their personal studies of the literature.
>
> I experienced a brief mild improvement of bipolar depression with Strattera that lasted less than three days. If you do decide to try it, take note that it can cause sedation or sleepiness during the second week that tends to disappear. If you haven't tried nortriptyine, I think that drug would be a better candidate to try first, unless you have already established a history of not responding well to multiple tricyclics.
>
> What are you currently taking, and what is it about your current condition that you are not happy with?
>
>
> - Scott
Posted by SLS on February 24, 2006, at 6:23:53
In reply to AMOXAPINE, posted by bipolarspectrum on February 23, 2006, at 17:39:56
> Thanx for the replies,
> I'm a little sceptical of notrityline because im bipolar spectrum and antidepressants tend to destabilize me... im currently on lithium 1200 and seroquel 600... but its not cutting it for my bipolar depression.... I've been lookin for something to agument the lithium with... my pdoc is talking about amoxapine (Loxapine)... but im considering augmentibng with wellbutrin, any thoughts?I would go with the Wellbutrin first.
I am guessing that you were mistaken when you wrote "(Loxapine)" - you probably meant to write "Asendin", the brand name for amoxapine, which is a tricyclic antidepressant with antipsychotic properties derived from its parent molecule, loxapine.
Traditionally, Wellbutrin has been thought of as being a better choice for bipolar disorder because the rate at which it produces mania is supposedly reduced.
- Scott
Posted by med_empowered on February 24, 2006, at 12:33:24
In reply to Re: AMOXAPINE » bipolarspectrum, posted by SLS on February 24, 2006, at 6:23:53
hi! Asendin (amoxapine) partially breaks down into loxapine, so there's some a dual neuroleptic/AD action. Theres a risk of EPS/TD; also, some people get pronounced "poop-out" with amoxapine and have to keep upping the dose (which also ups the risk of TD). Still..it is an option. Personally, I'd avoid it, though.
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