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Re: TOED UK Clozapine for attempt reverse TD by geodo

Posted by Jeroen on February 10, 2006, at 7:44:41

In reply to Re: TOED UK Clozapine for attempt reverse TD by geodo, posted by SLS on February 10, 2006, at 6:44:06

no what is that?

 

Re: TOED UK Clozapine for attempt reverse TD by geodo

Posted by SLS on February 10, 2006, at 8:20:34

In reply to Re: TOED UK Clozapine for attempt reverse TD by geodo, posted by SLS on February 10, 2006, at 6:44:06

Clonidine is a drug used sometimes to treat both tardive dyskinesia and tic disorders. It is known to act as an agonist at NE alpha-2 receptors. Strattera is used for ADHD and can also help ameliorate tics. It is a NE reuptake inhibitor.


- Scott

 

Re: TOED UK Clozapine for attempt reverse TD by geodo » Jeroen

Posted by ed_uk on February 10, 2006, at 16:21:59

In reply to Re: TOED UK Clozapine for attempt reverse TD by geodo, posted by Jeroen on February 10, 2006, at 7:44:41

Hi Jeroen

Phillipa is right, you have made a lot of progress over the last few months. The Seroxat has helped you especially. Give your cat a hug from me :)

Ed

 

Re: TOED UK Clozapine for attempt reverse TD by geodo

Posted by Jeroen on February 10, 2006, at 18:14:11

In reply to Re: TOED UK Clozapine for attempt reverse TD by geodo » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on February 10, 2006, at 16:21:59

i dont call TD improvement in my or anyones health like any other disease.


if doc doesnt prescribe cogentin or if it doesnt treat then i will get fazaclo or clozapine witouth blood monitoring, sounds very dangerous aint it?

but i can call emergency room as soon i get flu symptoms agrycanolis,

what other risks are there? i asked my psy doctor talk about my eyes and he said no!

 

Side effects of clozapine (Clozaril) » Jeroen

Posted by ed_uk on February 11, 2006, at 8:58:54

In reply to Re: TOED UK Clozapine for attempt reverse TD by geodo, posted by Jeroen on February 10, 2006, at 18:14:11

Hi Jeroen

>i dont call TD improvement in my or anyones health like any other disease

I was talking about the recent improvement in your depression and anxiety.

>i will get fazaclo or clozapine witouth blood monitoring, sounds very dangerous aint it?

Yes, it is. I don't think you will be able to obtain clozapine on the internet. Anything you buy which 'claims' to be clozapine is probably a fake. Clozapine is very tightly controlled compared with most drugs. Most pharmacies cannot dispense clozapine, only licensed pharmacies are permitted to supply it.

The dose of clozapine may need to be decreased when it is taken in combination with Seroxat.

>what other risks are there?

Potential side effects of clozapine....

1. Agranulocytosis - the most well known risk of clozapine. Fever may be a symptom, but clozapine can also induce a fever in the absense of agranulocytosis.

2. Seizures - common at high doses

3. Dizziness and fainting, low blood pressure

4. Certain types of heart disease - rare

5. Weight gain, obesity - common

6. Drowsiness, sedation - can be severe

7. Rapid/increased heart rate - common

8. Nausea/vomiting

9. Constipation - common. Bowel obstruction occurs occasionally.

10. Increased dreaming, unusual dreams, nightmares

11. Headache

12. Tremor

13. Excessive salivation, drooling during sleep 'wet pillow'. This is a very common side effect. Dry mouth may also more rarely.

14. Urinary incontinence

15. Sweating

16. Visual disturbances

17. Restlessness, agitation, confusion

18. Disturbance of sexual function, specifically ejaculation

19. Disturbance of liver function, hepatitis

20. Rash

21. Nasal congestion

22. Neuroleptic malignant syndrome - rare

23. Hyperglycemia and Diabetes Mellitus

24. Increased risk of DVT (deep vein thrombosis) and pulmonary embolism.

Regards

Ed

 

TO EDUK I SPOKE WITH MY DOCTOR

Posted by Jeroen on February 14, 2006, at 13:36:13

In reply to Side effects of clozapine (Clozaril) » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on February 11, 2006, at 8:58:54

hi, i just spoke today with my doctor about the TD and cogentin, he said its same class as AKINETON and might make things worse. whats your opinion.


he also admitted Clozapine can treat and even reverse TD after 2 to 6 months but it has lot of risks as side effects, people died on this drug. he said people on where i stayed 8 months many are taking it because not respond to other drugs


he said its an option for me... but i need to get hospitalized again for this... and i dont want to go at this time there. i am much improved as you said, the magnesium and herb are making things somethimes better


i think (hope) Clozaril will cure my eyes. what should i do... im doing not bad on seroquel it is helping and i have a life, but i dont go out anymore and stuff, so i do want to risk it but when? i can get a legal prescription for Fazaclo or Clozapine witouth going to hospital, but its too dangerous so i dont wanna do that....

SHOULD I TRY IT WITHIN A FEW MONTHS GET HOSPITALIZED AGAIN FOR THIS TREATMENT? LOT CAN GO WRONG... OR MAYBE THERE IS A SMALL CHANCE IT GET FIXED..... i dont know

please bob dont delete my post, not doing anything illegal. thanks

 

addon to above post to EDUK

Posted by Jeroen on February 14, 2006, at 13:42:29

In reply to Side effects of clozapine (Clozaril) » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on February 11, 2006, at 8:58:54

he said its a possible treatment (cure), but im doing not bad, i wanna get back to school. i felt good talking with my doctor, and i left the hospital happy.


but strange thing is he didnt knew what cogentin is, he looked it up on google.

 

Re: TO EDUK I SPOKE WITH MY DOCTOR » Jeroen

Posted by ed_uk on February 14, 2006, at 16:20:17

In reply to TO EDUK I SPOKE WITH MY DOCTOR, posted by Jeroen on February 14, 2006, at 13:36:13

Hi J

>hi, i just spoke today with my doctor about the TD and cogentin, he said its same class as AKINETON and might make things worse. whats your opinion.

That's right, it is in the same class as Akineton. Are Cogentin tablets available in Belgium? Perhaps they're not, which could be why your doctor hadn't heard of Cogentin.

>SHOULD I TRY IT WITHIN A FEW MONTHS GET HOSPITALIZED AGAIN FOR THIS TREATMENT? LOT CAN GO WRONG... OR MAYBE THERE IS A SMALL CHANCE IT GET FIXED..... i dont know

I wouldn't try it yet J, too many side effects. It might be an option for the future though. What do you think about my Botox idea?

Ed

 

TO EDUK NO BOTOX

Posted by Jeroen on February 15, 2006, at 11:59:18

In reply to Re: TO EDUK I SPOKE WITH MY DOCTOR » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on February 14, 2006, at 16:20:17

i cant do botox, option is out of the question

 

Re: TO EDUK NO BOTOX » Jeroen

Posted by ed_uk on February 15, 2006, at 14:51:54

In reply to TO EDUK NO BOTOX, posted by Jeroen on February 15, 2006, at 11:59:18

Hi J

Why not?

Ed

 

Re: TO EDUK NO BOTOX

Posted by Jeroen on February 15, 2006, at 15:02:27

In reply to Re: TO EDUK NO BOTOX » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on February 15, 2006, at 14:51:54

i dont want it.

 

Re: TO EDUK NO BOTOX » Jeroen

Posted by ed_uk on February 15, 2006, at 15:04:43

In reply to Re: TO EDUK NO BOTOX, posted by Jeroen on February 15, 2006, at 15:02:27

You are frightened by the idea?

Ed

 

ALL MY PSY DOCS SAY NO BECAUSE....

Posted by Jeroen on February 15, 2006, at 15:57:47

In reply to Re: TO EDUK NO BOTOX » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on February 15, 2006, at 15:04:43

ALL MY PSY DOCS SAY NO BECAUSE....

i have nystagmus (uncontrolled eye movement) and blepharospasm (only botox used for that not nystagmus)


it has improved by 35%+ id say 40%+ i think, also im ok with seroquel at this moment 100 AM and 200 PM, seroxat 30 mg, uni tranxene 15 mg (twice day), im stable, im following music lessons each week.

i have ordered lecithin i will take that also twice a day. im ok at this moment, im living a life. not like before but its better... my doctor said yesterday i wont add cogentin it might make things worse... but he did agreed with Clozaril, but its a hard drug... my psy doc said Seroquel has same system like Clozaril.

should i low dosage abilify to my medicine cocktail like 5 mg or 2.5mg? maybe it will reverse the nystagmus..... BECAUSE on parts on brain where too much dopamine it will make it ok again. DYSTONIA is caused by dopamine blockage in the basial ganglia i think. i cant take more then 10 mg or i will get ugly side effects.

i dont know ed, what do you think of the abilify 2.5 or 5 mg? i did had lot of excessive blinking, but no uncontrolled eye movements with abilify sounds scary all


 

Re: ALL MY PSY DOCS SAY NO BECAUSE.... » Jeroen

Posted by ed_uk on February 16, 2006, at 12:53:14

In reply to ALL MY PSY DOCS SAY NO BECAUSE...., posted by Jeroen on February 15, 2006, at 15:57:47

Hi Jeroen

>i have nystagmus (uncontrolled eye movement) and blepharospasm (only botox used for that not nystagmus)

That's right, the Botox wouldn't help the uncontrolled eye movements, only the blepharospasm.

>im following music lessons each week

Me too. I've just started playing the oboe again. I used to play but I gave up.

>i dont know ed, what do you think of the abilify 2.5 or 5 mg? i did had lot of excessive blinking, but no uncontrolled eye movements with abilify sounds scary all

I'm concerned about the excessive blinking you had on Abilify. What dose did you take previously?

Take care

Ed

 

Re: ALL MY PSY DOCS SAY NO BECAUSE....

Posted by Jeroen on February 16, 2006, at 12:55:47

In reply to Re: ALL MY PSY DOCS SAY NO BECAUSE.... » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on February 16, 2006, at 12:53:14

5 10 and 15 WOW 15 WAS NIGHTMARE

 

TO EDUK... serious

Posted by Jeroen on February 18, 2006, at 14:28:15

In reply to Re: ALL MY PSY DOCS SAY NO BECAUSE.... » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on February 16, 2006, at 12:53:14

hi eduk, im curious what my psy doc said about Clozaril. it can reverse the process maybe or treat he said but side effects :(. there is a little chance to it, but he mentioned its hardcore. diabetes and stuff.


and i need to get hospitalized again. MY WISH IS... *SNIF* to get back to my studys in september, be happy and meet new people.

i ordered lecithin and i will retry it, maybe a chance it will work and no need for clozaril


 

Re: TO EDUK... serious » Jeroen

Posted by ed_uk on February 18, 2006, at 14:45:45

In reply to TO EDUK... serious, posted by Jeroen on February 18, 2006, at 14:28:15

Hi J

What would you like to study?

Ed

 

Re: TO EDUK... serious

Posted by Jeroen on February 18, 2006, at 17:03:20

In reply to Re: TO EDUK... serious » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on February 18, 2006, at 14:45:45

dunno yet, resume economics i guess, no informatics, i want a SOCIAL LIFE and not a geek life, go out and have fun while i can. i lost my good feeling, if it aint return then theres no reason for me to exist

 

Re: TO EDUK... serious » Jeroen

Posted by ed_uk on February 18, 2006, at 17:44:26

In reply to Re: TO EDUK... serious, posted by Jeroen on February 18, 2006, at 17:03:20

Hi J

Have you been going out with any friends lately? Friends are really important.

Ed

 

Re: TO EDUK... serious

Posted by Jeroen on February 18, 2006, at 18:10:44

In reply to Re: TO EDUK... serious » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on February 18, 2006, at 17:44:26

NO

 

Re: TO EDUK... serious » ed_uk

Posted by ed_uk on February 20, 2006, at 12:21:58

In reply to Re: TO EDUK... serious » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on February 18, 2006, at 17:44:26

J, you need to meet some new people :) Good friends will not be put off by your blinking.

Ed

 

youre wrong!

Posted by Jeroen on February 20, 2006, at 18:26:56

In reply to Re: TO EDUK... serious » ed_uk, posted by ed_uk on February 20, 2006, at 12:21:58

i lost 4 friends because of this, 1 girl i love with all my heart, 2 best friends like soulmates just said go to hell i dont want anything to do with you anymore. its been months since i heared from them.

zyprexa 10 mg once made me 80% worse of TD the first 2 weeks i barelly could see where i could walk.

should i add abilify 5 mg? i hope it cures.... but i had eye problems too there


this is making me very upset. i dont have the courage to make new friends. i also get insulted if i feel bad

 

ID SAY CLOZARIL

Posted by Jeroen on February 20, 2006, at 18:28:33

In reply to youre wrong!, posted by Jeroen on February 20, 2006, at 18:26:56

IM GOING BACK TO HOSPITAL IN 2 MONTHS FOR CLOZAPINE TREATMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


END DISCUSSION

 

ID SAY CLOZARIL

Posted by Jeroen on February 21, 2006, at 10:52:24

In reply to ID SAY CLOZARIL, posted by Jeroen on February 20, 2006, at 18:28:33

i reduced the dosage of seroquel and i feel better, yesterday evening i was full of happyness despite the TD

 

Re: ID SAY CLOZARIL » Jeroen

Posted by ed_uk on February 21, 2006, at 14:22:14

In reply to ID SAY CLOZARIL, posted by Jeroen on February 21, 2006, at 10:52:24

Hi J

>i reduced the dosage of seroquel and i feel better, yesterday evening i was full of happyness despite the TD

:)

What dose are you on now? Remember to reduce in small steps :)

Ed


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