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Re: That's it, no more Risperdal for me

Posted by rjlockhart98 on October 6, 2005, at 23:10:43

In reply to That's it, no more Risperdal for me, posted by Deneb on October 6, 2005, at 23:03:19

Umm... i dont know... I would call your doctor and ask, or go to a pharmasist at the pharmacy and ask.

Yea i would be really freaking out, tarktive diskinisa. AHH!

I think psychotic thoughts are killing people, seeing things, hear things, doing things that like people are going to kill you, or after you. Which would be funny if there actually was, and your pdoc didnt know. So just take the medicine, make paranoia go away, then get killed. Sorry, i thought of that one time if somone was in the mafia and saw a doctor because people where after him, and there where!

Im crazy...

Stay cool Deneb

Matt

 

Re: That's it, no more Risperdal for me » rjlockhart98

Posted by Deneb on October 6, 2005, at 23:30:09

In reply to Re: That's it, no more Risperdal for me, posted by rjlockhart98 on October 6, 2005, at 23:10:43

> Umm... i dont know... I would call your doctor and ask, or go to a pharmasist at the pharmacy and ask.

What if I don't have time to ask? What if I'm going to get worse and worse? I don't want to take it at all now. Maybe I'll save it for when I really start losing my mind again. Right now I think I'm OK.

> Yea i would be really freaking out, tarktive diskinisa. AHH!

Me too. I'm freaking out. The twitch I had was pretty big too. I'm sure someone would have seen it when it happened.

> I think psychotic thoughts are killing people, seeing things, hear things, doing things that like people are going to kill you, or after you.

Sometimes I imagine bad things, but I think that's just imagination and not psychosis. I think maybe I just have an imagination I don't trust.

> Which would be funny if there actually was, and your pdoc didnt know. So just take the medicine, make paranoia go away, then get killed.

That would be really horrible, but it sounds kind of like an exciting life...except for the killing part.

Deneb

 

Re: That's it, no more Risperdal for me » Deneb

Posted by Sarah T. on October 6, 2005, at 23:38:20

In reply to Re: That's it, no more Risperdal for me » rjlockhart98, posted by Deneb on October 6, 2005, at 23:30:09

Hi Deneb,

I'm not familiar with the dosing and strengths of Risperdal. Is it possible to cut it even smaller than your current dose? I think you should definitely call your doctor. Tell him exactly what you told us about the twitching. Tell him exactly what it was like. Since I'm not familiar with Risperdal dosing, my suggestion is to NOT stop abruptly. Instead, I would cut it in even smaller increments, if possible, until you can talk with your doctor. How tiny can you cut it without having it turn to dust?

 

Re: That's it, no more Risperdal for me » Sarah T.

Posted by Deneb on October 6, 2005, at 23:49:02

In reply to Re: That's it, no more Risperdal for me » Deneb, posted by Sarah T. on October 6, 2005, at 23:38:20

> Hi Deneb,
>
> I'm not familiar with the dosing and strengths of Risperdal. Is it possible to cut it even smaller than your current dose?

Yes, it is scored in the middle. I can cut it to 0.25mg. OK, that's what I'll do tonight, just in case stoping it all of a sudden will make it worse.

>I think you should definitely call your doctor. Tell him exactly what you told us about the twitching. Tell him exactly what it was like.

I'm pretty sure I can stop it safely though. My p-doc said I don't have to take it if it doesn't help.

I also get twitches while on the Celexa, but I haven't had them in quite a while. I've had 3 twitches so far since I started Risperdal.

Thanks Sarah, for the advice.

 

Re: That's it, no more Risperdal for me

Posted by Deneb on October 7, 2005, at 0:54:23

In reply to Re: That's it, no more Risperdal for me » Sarah T., posted by Deneb on October 6, 2005, at 23:49:02

I'm going to stop taking it altogether tonight...not worth the risk.

Plus I don't think I need it anyways. I was mostly just fooling around with it. I can't believe my p-doc really gave it to me! He must not be a very good p-doc. Can't he tell the difference between crazy thoughts and a crazy imagination?

Deneb

 

Re: That's it, no more Risperdal for me

Posted by med_empowered on October 7, 2005, at 2:11:32

In reply to Re: That's it, no more Risperdal for me, posted by Deneb on October 7, 2005, at 0:54:23

hey! Unfortunately, lots of shrinks are spraying the new atypical antipsychotics on people left and right--they're designed for schizophrenia, but people are being RX'd them for anxiety, depression, agitation, and personality disorders. Its pretty ridiculous. Anyway, I'd say you should probably cut it in half and take the .25mgs tab for a couple days; if you want, you can cut it further (into .125mgs) and then stop taking it after that but...you really didn't take very much (people with schizophrenia usually take 4-8mgs) and you didn't take it for very long so...there's not much reason to worry. Be sure to tell your doc about it...be sure to emphasize how scared you were, how uncomfortable it felt, and then ask what he was thinking giving you an antipsychotic in the first place. Good luck!

 

Re: That's it, no more Risperdal for me » med_empowered

Posted by Deneb on October 7, 2005, at 9:40:36

In reply to Re: That's it, no more Risperdal for me, posted by med_empowered on October 7, 2005, at 2:11:32

> hey! Unfortunately, lots of shrinks are spraying the new atypical antipsychotics on people left and right--they're designed for schizophrenia, but people are being RX'd them for anxiety, depression, agitation, and personality disorders.

The p-doc I usually see told me that anti-psychotics were not for me. She's not really into meds. She only gave me Celexa and 5 doses of propranolol to try out for anxiety. She mostly gave psychotherapy.

I suppose this new p-doc I'm seeing doesn't know what to make of me. I think I may have some personality disorders.

>Its pretty ridiculous. Anyway, I'd say you should probably cut it in half and take the .25mgs tab for a couple days; if you want, you can cut it further (into .125mgs)

I stopped cold turkey last night and I couldn't sleep! I found out that the stuffy nose I kept getting at night *is* a side effect of Risperdal. I didn't get a stuffy nose last night...but I also didn't sleep! I noticed more twitches. Since SSRIs give me twitches, I'm thinking maybe I'm extra susceptible to them or something.

Thanks Med_Empowered

Deneb

 

Re: That's it, no more Risperdal for me » Deneb

Posted by spriggy on October 7, 2005, at 16:27:35

In reply to Re: That's it, no more Risperdal for me » med_empowered, posted by Deneb on October 7, 2005, at 9:40:36

Deneb,

Besides the twitches, did you notice any benefits to it? I was always curious how Risperal worked/felt, the doctor's encouraged me to give it my autistic son for his social anxiety.

Did you feel calmer?

 

Re: That's it, no more Risperdal for me » spriggy

Posted by Deneb on October 7, 2005, at 17:03:29

In reply to Re: That's it, no more Risperdal for me » Deneb, posted by spriggy on October 7, 2005, at 16:27:35

> Deneb,
>
> Besides the twitches, did you notice any benefits to it? I was always curious how Risperal worked/felt, the doctor's encouraged me to give it my autistic son for his social anxiety.
>
> Did you feel calmer?

I think I did feel calmer. I felt less anxious. For once I wasn't anxious as heck in the waiting room. It also helped me sleep apparently, 'cause after I stopped it last night I couldn't sleep.

Good luck with finding the right treatment for your son. :-)

Deneb

 

Are muscle twitches benign?

Posted by Deneb on October 7, 2005, at 17:48:59

In reply to Re: That's it, no more Risperdal for me » spriggy, posted by Deneb on October 7, 2005, at 17:03:29

I just did a quick search on muscle twitches and it seems like they should be pretty benign. Are my occasional muscle twitches something to be worried about? They're not painful or disfiguring or anything, they are just a bit bizarre. I don't think other people can notice them unless maybe they pay really close attention.

P-doc no.1 didn't think my twitches were of any concern. I got them while taking Celexa. The twitches become very infrequent after taking the Celexa for a while.

I'm just wondering if I over-reacted to the twitching.

Deneb

 

Re: Are muscle twitches benign? » Deneb

Posted by Phillipa on October 7, 2005, at 18:19:47

In reply to Are muscle twitches benign?, posted by Deneb on October 7, 2005, at 17:48:59

Deneb, you can get muscle twitching from a lot of meds. Have they ever suggested just a med for anxiety? Like klonopin, ativan, xanax, valium? Just a thought. Fondly, Phillipa

 

Re: Are muscle twitches benign?

Posted by Deneb on October 7, 2005, at 20:00:45

In reply to Are muscle twitches benign?, posted by Deneb on October 7, 2005, at 17:48:59

> I don't think other people can notice them unless maybe they pay really close attention.

Oops, I was wrong, my twitches are noticeable to others. I just saw my arm twitch. These are just like the twitches I've been getting since I started on Celexa. They stopped for a while and now they are back again. I can probably conclude that the Risperdal has caused them.

I don't really mind the twitches, but I get scared that they might lead to TD or something. Can this happen? Can simple muscle twitches lead to TD?

Deneb

 

Re: Are muscle twitches benign?

Posted by Racer on October 8, 2005, at 1:45:26

In reply to Re: Are muscle twitches benign?, posted by Deneb on October 7, 2005, at 20:00:45

No, muscle twitches and TD are very different animals.

I've had the muscle twitches from drugs, and they can be seen by others. They're problematic, but not dangerous. (Unless you have to shave or something ;-0 )

My guess, which I'd put some money on, is that your twitches are still from the Celexa, and not from the Risperdal. Give the Risperdal the full two weeks that you promised it, and see how you're doing at the end of that time. Aside from the stuffy nose, you really didn't seem to have any problems on it, and based on your writing here it was helping you.

Hope that helps.

 

Re: Are muscle twitches benign?

Posted by ClearSkies on October 8, 2005, at 7:00:12

In reply to Re: Are muscle twitches benign?, posted by Racer on October 8, 2005, at 1:45:26


> My guess, which I'd put some money on, is that your twitches are still from the Celexa, and not from the Risperdal. Give the Risperdal the full two weeks that you promised it, and see how you're doing at the end of that time. Aside from the stuffy nose, you really didn't seem to have any problems on it, and based on your writing here it was helping you.
>
> Hope that helps.

This is very good advice - as always. A couple of days on a medication don't really give you a good indication of its benefits, just its inital side effects.
I'm also one of those people who consult with my doctor before making med adjustments or changes. I get a quick response from my p-doc's office and it's been working well for me.
CS

 

Re: That's it, no more Risperdal for me

Posted by Sebastian on October 8, 2005, at 16:47:24

In reply to That's it, no more Risperdal for me, posted by Deneb on October 6, 2005, at 23:03:19

It is safe to just stop. Watch for psychotic thought or what ever you were taking it for.

 

Re: Are muscle twitches benign? » ClearSkies

Posted by Phillipa on October 8, 2005, at 17:48:04

In reply to Re: Are muscle twitches benign?, posted by ClearSkies on October 8, 2005, at 7:00:12

Clear Skies I want your pdoc too. Maybe I should have moved your way. Fondly, Phillipa

 

Re: Are muscle twitches benign? » Phillipa

Posted by ClearSkies on October 8, 2005, at 18:48:40

In reply to Re: Are muscle twitches benign? » ClearSkies, posted by Phillipa on October 8, 2005, at 17:48:04

I am a real wimp - hate pain and side effects, and have had many crummy doctors before. This p-doc knows I trust her; I make notes and have questions to ask when I show up, her staff is very helpful and obliging. I try to cultivate our good relationship by being a good patient. I think it has paid off in my improvements this year.

I am a lucky person, but I think I work pretty hard at getting better too. I figure that my doctor is being paid for being my consultant - so I better consult her if something isn't going right!

 

Re: Did I go crazy? » Racer

Posted by Deneb on October 8, 2005, at 19:41:27

In reply to Re: Are muscle twitches benign?, posted by Racer on October 8, 2005, at 1:45:26

> My guess, which I'd put some money on, is that your twitches are still from the Celexa, and not from the Risperdal.

> Hope that helps.

Yes, that does help. I was going a little crazy with anxiety about the TD thing. I don't mind the twitches from the Celexa. It's good to know that twitches and TD are very different things.

My p-doc said that it is up to me to take it or not. I'm not sure what to do. I just remembered that I really do lose it sometimes...like that time I wanted to get back at Dr. Bob by hanging myself because I thought he was killing people here on Babble by blocking them and it was up to me to save everyone by sacrificing myself. Geez, that was pretty crazy. I can't believe I actually bought a rope and wrote a suicide note explaining my motives. I just want to prevent stuff like that from happening. Would Risperdal help me with that?

Deneb

 

Re: Did I go crazy? » Deneb

Posted by Racer on October 9, 2005, at 12:44:39

In reply to Re: Did I go crazy? » Racer, posted by Deneb on October 8, 2005, at 19:41:27

> > My guess, which I'd put some money on, is that your twitches are still from the Celexa, and not from the Risperdal.
>
> > Hope that helps.
>
> Yes, that does help. I was going a little crazy with anxiety about the TD thing. I don't mind the twitches from the Celexa. It's good to know that twitches and TD are very different things.

I'm glad it helped.
>
> My p-doc said that it is up to me to take it or not. I'm not sure what to do. I just remembered that I really do lose it sometimes...like that time I wanted to get back at Dr. Bob by hanging myself because I thought he was killing people here on Babble by blocking them and it was up to me to save everyone by sacrificing myself. Geez, that was pretty crazy. I can't believe I actually bought a rope and wrote a suicide note explaining my motives. I just want to prevent stuff like that from happening. Would Risperdal help me with that?
>
> Deneb

Yes, that's what the Risperdal is for -- to help you avoid that sort of thinking. Remember: while you came out of it this time, you did go farther than just thinking about doing something. You took steps to do it. That's very, very dangerous, since you could follow through next time.

I think it's important that you find a medication that can control these thoughts, and it's worth giving Risperdal a good chance, since you really haven't had much trouble with it. You can live with a stuffy nose for a while, right? ;-) The other medications might be worse, so give this one a good chance.

It might help you with the civility issues, too, and help you remember to check in with a civility buddy before posting things that might be a bit, well, you know... That would be good, right? Besides, it can't be fun to realize that you've been thinking such things, right? Give the Risperdal a good chance to show its true colors, just like you promised yourself when you started taking it.

Good luck.

 

Re: Did I go crazy?

Posted by gardenergirl on October 9, 2005, at 23:33:23

In reply to Re: Did I go crazy? » Deneb, posted by Racer on October 9, 2005, at 12:44:39

Try the breathe right strips for the stuffy nose?

gg

 

Re: Did I go crazy?

Posted by xjs7 on October 10, 2005, at 0:16:22

In reply to Re: Did I go crazy? » Racer, posted by Deneb on October 8, 2005, at 19:41:27

If everyone who has a "weird" or bizarre thought were to take antipsychotics, then pretty much everyone would be drugged. Usually psychotic people hear voices--a LOT of voices. They also act noticeably different. I am not saying I think you are not psychotic; only your doctor can determine this.

I wouldn't worry about the twitches. I get all kinds of weird movements and I don't even think half of them are related to the drugs I take. I have organic problems. I'm not dead yet.

 

Re: Did I go crazy?...Probably not » xjs7

Posted by Deneb on October 10, 2005, at 12:57:45

In reply to Re: Did I go crazy?, posted by xjs7 on October 10, 2005, at 0:16:22

> If everyone who has a "weird" or bizarre thought were to take antipsychotics, then pretty much everyone would be drugged. Usually psychotic people hear voices--a LOT of voices. They also act noticeably different. I am not saying I think you are not psychotic; only your doctor can determine this.

I'm pretty sure I've never been psychotic. P-doc1 said I have a borderline personality. I think maybe I have bad temper tantrums. P-doc2 doesn't know me yet and give me a powerful anti-psychotic. P-doc1 said I need counselling.

Me, I'm totally confused. I just don't want to get insanely upset and think people want me dead. When I think people want me dead, I want to kill myself. I don't know what the heck is wrong with me. Maybe I'm just a really horrible person with terrible temper tantrums. I don't think I ever really lose my mind, but I do know I lose control of my emotions and the thoughts that lead to those emotions.

Those times feel so horrible that I'm willing to try an anti-psychotic for them, that's how horrible they feel.

> I wouldn't worry about the twitches. I get all kinds of weird movements and I don't even think half of them are related to the drugs I take. I have organic problems. I'm not dead yet.

Phew, it's good to know that the twitches are probably nothing to be worried about. I've actually noticed fewer twitches since I decided to take 0.25mg of the Risperdal. I get more twitches when I think about them too, it's weird.

So far, no real side effects, not even a stuffy nose.

Thanks xjs

Deneb

 

Re: Did I go crazy?...Probably not

Posted by xjs7 on October 10, 2005, at 18:46:45

In reply to Re: Did I go crazy?...Probably not » xjs7, posted by Deneb on October 10, 2005, at 12:57:45

If you are psychotic an antipsychotic will make an immediate and profound change in your thinking and behavior. This is true for >70% of people. So many people take these drugs without getting much benefit from them.

To me it sounds like you are suffering from a severe emotional disorder. I am wary of the borderline label as I think a lot of those people are just emotionally distressed. Emotions are funny things and can take months or years to change. I am a big believer in therapy, especially CBT. It really helped me. I would recommend this in addition to an antidepressant.

Personality disorders are difficult to treat, and sometimes very difficult to manage. I would resist that label at least until it has been several years with no changes from therapy or SSRIs. Remember, it may take a long time to improve. I definitely think counseling would benefit you.

 

Re: What meds for severe emotional disorder?

Posted by Deneb on October 10, 2005, at 19:29:27

In reply to Re: Did I go crazy?...Probably not, posted by xjs7 on October 10, 2005, at 18:46:45

> If you are psychotic an antipsychotic will make an immediate and profound change in your thinking and behavior.

Even if I really were psychotic, my episodes don't last that long. I'm not sure I need an anti-psychotic every day, but the p-doc didn't think as needed usage was a good idea. If the Risperdal can *prevent* those episodes, that would be a really really good thing.

> To me it sounds like you are suffering from a severe emotional disorder.

I think it's difficult to get therapy for my problems. I recently went to the student counselling centre for some help, but they wouldn't take me in. They sent me to the p-docs. I don't think people want to work with me because I get suicidal and I've harmed myself badly enough to end up in the hospital.

Are there any meds to help people with a severe emotional disorder? I don't know how I got the way I am now. I've never suffered any real abuse or anything. I also suffer from at times severe social anxiety.

Thanks for the great advice

Deneb


 

Re: What meds for severe emotional disorder?

Posted by xjs7 on October 10, 2005, at 21:27:10

In reply to Re: What meds for severe emotional disorder?, posted by Deneb on October 10, 2005, at 19:29:27

I can't really help you with the meds; I just take what the doctors give me and they seem to work. A standard antidepressant should help. Good luck with the Risperdal. I don't know if it can prevent your episodes but it is worth a short trial at least. A benzodiazepine should help with your anxiety.


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